#and like sure cersei distanced him but lets be fr its not like he was actively fighting her about it
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this is why i love this passage sm omg. like i doubt it will garner sympathy from most readers, but it is still so visceral and effective imo. like he has jaime’s eyes. yet those eyes are full of fear. his behavior is such a twisted concoction of those systems u mentioned, especially violent & chauvinistic masculinity. he overcompensated so hard. his fake father was a terrible idol he wanted to emulate, an example of violent masculinity. his real father is absent, emotionally unavailable, and indifferent. his grandfather is the cold and ruthless patriarch that uses him as a pawn. ntm cersei’s complicated relationship with the constructs of gender and how that contributed to his rearing. and under all that the boy’s only thirteen. horrible terrible irredeemable boy but still a boy. the worst product that these constructs can create. the wheel of patriarchy go brrr
joffrey dynamics >>> like. ok hes a robb foil as the boy king archetype or whatever. but have we considered hes a tyrion parallel as the boy moulded by the male violence of their fathers (+ The Wheel of patriarchy in general). like tyrion's 'i wish i was the monster you think i am' vs. joffrey making himself the monster bc it's basically what u get when u mix robert and tywin. like he Knows deep down theres Something Up re: the incest and it manifests as incredible levels of overcompensation through his best attempt at violent masculinity. bc thats what The Wheel (Of Patriarchy) teaches him. anyway.
EXACTLY god so real i feel like he's entirely a divine punishment a divine consequence.. he is the product of feudalism and monarchy and the bastardisation(lol) of human relationships under these systems! he is what happens when you're raised without loving parents and as a tool as an heir as an object, when you are raised under systemic patriarchy. is his sadism any different from the casual violence inflicted on the poor or is it just particularly evil because we have a connection to his victims? he IS the consequence of incest of not having a real father figure in a society that demands masculinity. he's got his trad grandfather, his abusive legal father and his distant unclefather. the men he grew up around are the kingsguard or servants.
i see a lot of people who hate the catspaw ending or were disappointed by it. i love it! its not more machinations because we dont need more evidence that littlefinger has his fingers in everything. i think it's the one act that really makes joffrey as a character. and besides isn't it more fun that littlefinger didnt fucking do it and still lied just to fuck around? that's hilarious
but idk grrm decided he was a little psychopath killing cats. that's just weirdgirl behaviour ok he wouldn't get it 🚬😑 besides those are his brethren
#joffrey baratheon#jb nation look away but this is also y i really would not want jaime to have children and live happily ever after w brienne#like i know he is trying now but its too late and his children are doomed#his attemps with tommen are more heartbreaking than anything else. like this is what he shoulf have done sooner instead of dissociating for#so long#and like sure cersei distanced him but lets be fr its not like he was actively fighting her about it#this is a sin he will have to live with like im sorry i dont think children should be treated like a free trial#if he lives i need him at the wall sorry guys#jaime is fr my dilf of all time but in such a fail father absent deadbeat way#dad id like to fuckingkill#also he makes a choice#he chooses cat’s oath over his child#its a complicated choice he is trying to save the life of another child but in doing so he really doomed his own child
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