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we are getting TEN HOURS of yellowjackets over the next like two months
#yes it is hitting me just now#i assume it will be 10 eps again?? was it announced anywhere. i know screeners got the first 6 eps? so idk#im gonna assume 10 eps again since they renewed it for s3 like makes no sense to shorten it so. 10 eps it is#and its been an hour per ep in s1#yellowjackets#listeeeeen im gonna be so unbearable i am already sorry#i got into this show too late during s1 so my brain had not enough time to latch onto it properly#but it REALLY did this time lmao its been like 16 days of being unable to think of much else so#edit its 9 eps :( rip. but still!
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So, I just started watching Black Mirror. I totally love it. It definitely gives me Love Death And Robots vibes just its not animated. So far I've seen every episode in seasons one and 2 (excluding the first episode of season one because I was advised to skip it), and I also saw the 1st episode of season 6 bc it was just what started playing when I went to watch the show on Netflix. I wanna give episode reviews for the ones I've seen so far in the order I watched them, so spoilers from here on out.
S6 ep1 Joan Is Awful: I loved it. The show did such a great job contrasting the show with reality. The twist was epic when I 1st watched, but compared to other episodes is just alright
S1 ep2 Fifteen Million Merits: again great episode. I loved how hopeless the situation felt. No matter who you were it just felt awful, and I love how well they instigated that feeling
S1 ep3 The Entire History Of You: this one was alright. I kinda super disliked the main character even before he got real crazy, and the concept didn't quite pull me in as much as the others.
S2 ep1 Be Right Back: this one was cute and sad. To be entirely honest I felt bad for the AI. I feel like the MC was a bit unfair to it. Not that I think the AI cared that much, but still. The thing was perfectly polite, no dangerous self aware controlling behavior at all, and she locked him in the attic, poor guy.
S2 ep2 White bear: so at first I wasn't a fan of this one. I'm not a fan of thrillers and I thought the bystander commentary was mediocre, but then the twist happened. Oh my god, did I adore the reveal. And props to the actress playing the MC because her screams of agony at the end gave me chills to the bone. Thank God cruel and unusual punishment is not permitted where I live.
S2 ep3 The Waldo Moment : this one as a story was alright, but what really freaked me out was how realistic the scenario is. If somebody ran for government as a joke a significant portion of the population may actually vote for them. I mean Trump got elected. People will vote for people as a joke and that has serious consequences. After this episode I promised myself if I ever saw someone run for government as a joke I'd vote for someone serious.
S2 ep4 White Christmas : I just finished watching this one and Jesus Christ! The 1st story didn't get to me but the last two did. I guessed the twist pretty early on in the ep but the concept of being trapped in a room for months with nothing to do is such a terrifying concept it really really got to me. Additionally the whole blocking people thing is scary as hell. Specifically the whole getting blacked by everyone, can you imagine? So lonely. And then the ending, 1,000 years per minute for at least 24 hours. I already have a fear of immortality, did not need that confirmed thanks.
Over all this show has been an experience and I'm all over it.
#black mirror#review#joan is awful#fifteen million merits#the entire history of you#be right back#white bear#the waldo moment#white christmas
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We all know that S5 is going to be going back to its roots. It's supposed to emulate S1 from what we have been told.
But what does that actually look like?
I think three big things:
Run Times and Episode Count
There has been debate on the number being either 8 or 9 (1&3 were 8, 2&4 were 9). I considered 10 as a new rounded number to finish it off, but then I realized that 8+9+8+9+8=42.
If you’re new here, 42 is the secret to the universe in Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Universe. It’s big sci-fi nerd stuff. So I can’t pass up this opportunity. Also the first season is 8 episodes, and since they are trying to return to that Season 1 vibe, this would make sense to me.
Also. 42 is divisible by 7, and 7 is tied to Will. If Will is the MC for season 5, then this just helps strengthen the choice.
Averaging at 86 min per ep, S4 was a monster. If we take out eps 7,8,&9 (1.5 roughly, 1.5hr, 2.5hr), the average is a beautiful 73min per episode. S1 was 50min on average. Better yet, S2 and S3 were also about 55min on average. If we look at run times alone. S4 says that it's 9 episodes but if we compare the average times... S4 when compared to S1 has (roughly) 6 episodes worth of content. So S4 is like 15 episodes in a trench coat trying to pass itself off as 9.
Goodness.
We know that they, the creators, want the episodes to be shorter (possible if everything is in Hawkins and no new information really has to be established). We also know that the last episode is going to be 2hrs, or so they say, as the grand finale. I really don’t think that they will be able to drop down to 50 min again. Regardless of the information they need to include. After the spectacle of S4, they need to GO BIG. And I don't just mean the two hour finale.
I suspect that this season is going to be brilliant in cinematography, horror, and effects. It's going to make you sit on the edge of your seat in awe. AND it has to be a good story ending.
I think that the average episode time will be 60min + the 2hr finale. It lets them drop down in time, and gives them the room for the spectacle. It also doesn't highlight just how much of a monster S4 was in terms of time. IDK but having that season as this big outlier in time per ep, feels strange. IDK if they care, but I wouldn't want one of my seasons to stick out like a sore thumb like that.
2. Return to the Small Town Horror
Now, this show has been scary the entire way through. We've had monsters and unknowns, but in some way it hasn't felt the same as S1. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this, but I knew, going into S4, that El would save the day. The question was about how. Not so much if or who. I also knew that the main cast would live.
Both of these things need to be established early on as NOPEs in order to really make S5 scary. We need to really feel that the characters can die (not just us panicking out here on social media thinking it, because they said no new characters). We also need to see that El can't just simply power up and we'll be good. She tried and failed. But she wasn't ready. So she powers up again. She still needs to fail. Why? Because we expect her to win and this time that's not how it works. (I have a whole thing on Defeating Vecna specifically, and the thematics of the Upside Down, that explain that I think this will be more of a rejection of ideologies.)
This season is going to need to feel close, crawl-up-your-skin-breath-on-the-back-of-your-neck scary. It's going to need to replicate the S1, "what the heck is going on?" And the, "No! The Monster! It's right there," scary. Now, how do we do that when we already have all the cards on the table? I have a few ideas of how they can achieve that (but I need to double check S1 first).
3. Single Narrative Focus
Note that this ties into point 2.
In S1 it was "find Will." Well, Nancy was off doing her Nancy thing, but for the others it was Find Will. By S4 we had: get Hopper, Find El, Figure out Vecna (and that's simplifying it). And really, in S2 and S3 we slowly turned this way from the single narrative to this complex narrative. It was an evolution outwards as the world expanded, and it's not bad, but we did get a lot.
However, now everyone is back in Hawkins. The return to the single narrative is EASY. They're all in Hawkins. The villain is Vecna. There are no if-ands-or-buts about it. We know who he is, why he is, how he is, and where he is. All the questions? Answered.
The issue is this: now what?
Everyone is together. How do we split them up when they know that's the wrong choice? Reasonably speaking, there is no reason for them to do this. They don't need to investigate (they know the villain). They don't need to figure out where he is (there is a whole cloud over Hawkins). They are already unified as a group, physically.
Note that I say physically. I've said this before. I will say it again. They are not unified mentally. Will? Used El as a proxy for his feelings. Mike and El? On the rocks. Νancy and Jonathan? Haven't spoken to each other about their issues. Dustin just saw Eddie die. Max is in a coma. Lucas watched that happen. Joyce and Hopper just arrived but they don't really know what's going on. Murray is Murray. Steve just dropped that infobomb in Nancy's hands and was like "deal with this as you will." Robin is probably the only one chill.
They are the furthest from unified as a group, mentally, as they could be. It's for this reason that I actually think that the focus of this season will not be "destroy Vecna" but rather "unify." With Vecna being the embodiment of rejection, isolation, and fear (see my Upside Down write up), the only way to combat that is to face their demons and come together as a group mentally too. Fighting separately for the same goal is not good enough. Not for this fight.
It's really funny because in most of the seasons I'll yell at the screen like "JUST TALK." Because if they just shared information lol. So many issues would be solved. Guess what? S4 Vecna squad does that. Nancy still does go off on her own to follow up on a lead, but ultimately, they do talk about everything. From the beginning, they are unified front in that regard. Things are working right, but they still fail because it's not the whole group.
Big horror trope? Person who goes off alone dies? Good thing our main cast hasn't done that before and almost died... very strange that it is a theme of this show too. Almost like, they shouldn't be operating solo, or running off on their own. Almost like they need to be unified every single season for things to work in the end. And just maybe. Maybe. This season, they need to see eye to eye and face their demons and support each other as they do that. IDK. Maybe that's a reach.
Sarcasm aside, I think that S5 will be about them coming together and solving the problem as a full team, but that also means that people are going to have to face themselves and their personal internal struggles. And with Vecna's reach pretty much everywhere, I wouldn't be surprised that we get more visions by the others, seeing things and then having to face their emotions regarding those things. AND then getting the support of the group, as they do so. They don't have to get over the feelings, but they will see that they're not alone and that they don't have to face it alone. That they don't have to be scared alone. (How many times do I need to repeat alone? Vecna is the embodiment of acting solo. In order to defeat his ideology, they can't do what he does.)
I think they'll be split up again, but not by their own choice. Something will happen, probably due to miscommunication, and then the party is split and has to come back together. They will do so, and whatever things they were hiding will be said, because they can't risk not saying it. They can't risk not facing it. Not when the big bad is on the horizon and there might not be another chance.
But at the end of the day, the monster is no longer in the dark and no longer hiding in the scary place. It is where everyone can see and they have to face it openly. (If that's not the biggest symbolism HERE I AM neon light. IDK what is.)
Now this, in my mind, can be done through the horror tropes (see point 2) and fear. Visions, monsters, etc. Getting them to talk and understand each other. I need to think about this a lot more to really see how I think it could be done, but there is a good possibility of this with pacing, tension, lighting, and music.
These are the three things I think we can expect from that return to S1 comment by the creators. I'll be back later with a better idea of the horror tropes and how they might be used to make things scary this season when we already know what lurks in the dark. Or, if someone else wants to... Tag me! I want to see!
#stranger things season 5 theory#stranger things theory#stranger things#returning to season 1 is going to be a logistical nightmare when you've made it this big#i am not envious#byler#byler theory
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Do you think Netflix being in disarray will effect Bridgerton at all?
I saw a lot of tweets being like “Netflix is going under because they produce crap like Bridgerton” - idk anything about economics but I don’t think the show is the issue? It’s a success. Isn’t Shonda kinda helping keep their lights on atp? If anything investing in romance was a smart move, right? They also have Virgin River which is a moderate hit. But I know Netflix and other streamers tend to cancel after 2 seasons because that’s when casts can renegotiate their contracts, and Bridgerton is now at S3, though the show obviously isn’t liable to being cancelled. I just wonder if the cast will get raises now or not.
Bridgerton is also expensive to make (~$10M/ep per the WSJ) - I wonder if they’d tighten the purse strings at all. S2 already looked less expensive than S1 imo, specifically the production design. The grandeur wasn’t at the same level.
Lol yeeeeah people don't... get what's happening here. Now, I don't know if Bridgerton is getting them new subscribers--that's the thing. The conventional wisdom has always been that Netflix benefits most from shows that gain them subscribers. While they've more recently (like other streamers) been reporting how many households watched X show, how many minutes and hours were watched, that's ultimately a show of strength more than anything, because what gets them money is people paying for the platform. I don't think Bridgerton turned anyone off of Netflix lmao. Like, I doubt there are many people out there who went "you renewed Bridgerton, I shall cut off my subscription". That's really the only direct way Bridgerton could *hurt* the platform. Conventional wisdom would be that if lots of people are watching this show, chances are that lots of people are subscribing to watch this show, but only Netflix can divine whether or not the show is adding subscribers. The platform losing subscribers doesn't connect to Bridgerton, imo.
I don't even think the loss of subscribers really connects to... most of the content Netflix produces. Like, we can bitch about the quality of the content Netflix produces all we want, but ultimately many of the buzziest shows and movies of the year are often linked to Netflix. It doesn't matter if they're super high quality. They still go viral.
The loss is more likely, imo, linked to the rising fees--if Netflix isn't your favorite streamer and they bump up costs, you cut Netflix before you cut anything else. That has to do with the appeal of the content, right? But if Netflix had been able to keep their fees *down* I think that people would've passively kept it. Additionally, I don't think the discussion of a crackdown on password sharing helps them in that sense. Like. I'm difficult to piss off, but that pisses even me off. I'd honestly take Netflix with ads without blinking, but a Netflix where I can share my password? Is another issue. So I imagine even the discussion of that has some subscribers dropping off. It's not that there isn't good content on there, but is it good enough to put up with the bullshit, is the question.
The thing is that while Bridgerton isn't cheap, there are shows that are a lot more expensive with bigger names that are not bringing in as many viewers. The Witcher has Henry Cavill, who can demand a fat paycheck, plus tons of special effects--and that show has obviously done well, but I actually don't know that it expanded on its viewing hours? If it did, I didn't see it. Then you have The Crown, which at one point was the most expensive Netflix show ever--eye-catching names every season, amazing costumes and production values. That shit's not cheap, but then again The Crown gets them that awards shine they want and season 4 was the buzziest season yet. You have shows like The Umbrella Academy, which has higher-profile performers (most of the people on Bridgerton are really not well known, or weren't when they joined the show, which I think helps it in terms of budget) special effects aaaaaaaand what has to be the biggest music budget ever because that shit has iconic banger after iconic banger. While it gets numbers, I don't think it's as big as Bridgerton.
Here's the thing. You can see how Netflix has pivoted a few times since it began streaming. In the early days of Netflix, everything got renewed and it got renewed... kind of more than it deserved to be, lol. Remember Hemlock Grove? Hemlock Grove got THREE SEASONS, and it didn't even look *cheap*. Gradually, they realized that there was a diminishing return in terms of subscribers as shows went on, and they started cutting them off at the knees (plus, as you mentioned, come time for contract renegotiations the bill would rise). Then Netflix got bad press for "cancelling everything" (which... tbh, is kind of overblown--I've had a couple shows get cancelled by Netflix, but I honestly think a lot of what they cancel would have been cancelled by anyone else too; they just make a lot of content and therefore cancel a lot of content, so it seems bigger than it is). You start seeing Netflix give premature renewals (The Witcher got a s3 renewal months before s2 dropped), double renewals like what Bridgerton got when s3 and s4 were greenlit so fast. Imo this was done for many reasons but in part to give viewers the impression that they could invest in these shows, and they weren't gonna drop off unexpectedly.
Imo, what Netflix needs to do is just like.... narrow its scope. They have good content, they just also have a lot of bullshit that nobody watches that they're wasting money on. I think it's smart to pick up shows and movies that otherwise wouldn't be easily accessible internationally, basically acting as a distributor/point of access and not the main man behind the mirror.
I think they also need look at who is keeping the lights on. The audience for Bridgerton s2 (at least in that first week) was like... 76% female. I believe it was fairly evenly spread across racial/ethnic demographics, but it was 76% female. I would bet that this is not the only very successful Netflix show that has skewed heavily female. Streamers, movie studios, networks have always been afraid of investing in the female audience, but like... women show up lmao. Women buy shit. Women are incredibly intense in terms of fandom--I would argue that there are more women engaging intensely in fandom than there are men in this day and age. Like, sure, you've got the superhero bros and the Star Wars bros but there are plenty of women in those fandoms as well and many big fandoms that have been driven largely by women besides. I think it's easier for women to engage in both sides of fandom with less shame--a dude might get shit for being into Bridgerton (I mean, not really, I know many men who watch it lmao but I think for many fannish men this is the insecurity that they worry about) but a woman can watch The Witcher and be super into it and she might get shit for it from some dudes but like... To be real? I think women are so used to getting shit from men in fannish spaces that we kind of... shake it off more easily.
I'm biased, but to me this would indicate that Netflix needs to invest in more quality woman-centric content. And of course, this would include romance lmao. You can actually make a good romance (especially if it involves... actual sex and romance and less ensemble) fairly cheaply. Even historical romance doesn't have to be something you break the bank on, nobody cares *that* much about how it looks. Look at all those BBC costume dramas that recycled the same costumes over and over. I'd like for it to look nice, but that's not the point. Hire hot people nobody knows who are good actors and will take a smaller paycheck. Go to town.
Idk, there are a loooot of reasons why Netflix has gotten here (see: the lack of diversity across the content they invest in, generally, as well) but I don't think you can say a show that has gotten lots of eyeballs is the *issue* even if I can't say for sure how much it's *helping*. Only they know what is actively gaining subscribers, not just viewers.
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July 9: Star Trek 1x05 The Enemy Within
Today’s ep: The Enemy Within. Overall this is a good ep, but I don’t know that I entirely agree with its thesis, and some parts of it are so uncomfortable that they mess with my general enjoyment.
Kirk, being encouraging of his crew: “That will make a good specimen.” I like how it’s just one line but there’s such confidence about him. They have to remind you of his normal self fast because he’s split for 99% of the episode.
Sulu: “That’s nippy.” I love Sulu.
So they just find an alien dog on the planet and decide to steal it? Lol your fav is problematic Enterprise crew.
(Like how they just never explained why they sent the dog up by itself later lol.)
I forgot that it was the ore that messed with the transporter. That’s a cool idea; makes sense. Alien ore gets in your system now weird stuff happens.
Evil Kirk appears and no one sees him--that’s why you don’t leave the transporter room unattended like Kirk said!!
Honestly imagine how wild seeing this when it first aired and not knowing much about Star Trek would be. Weird new sci fi show’s been on for a month and suddenly there are two Captains!! What!?!?
Even the way Evil!Kirk touches the ship is lascivious.
Bones is a good doctor. He really does have a good bedside manner; I don’t feel like people remember this about him enough.
He also keeps brandy in sickbay lol.
This scene with gratuitously shirtless Kirk and distracted Spock... it doesn’t look anything less like a porno in context honestly. I know Spock is supposed to be distracted because he’s hearing information that doesn’t make sense but Kirk is just so obviously turning on the flirt face (aka his usual face with Spock) and he’s shirtless so... the distraction is real and multi-faceted.
Ooh, Janice is an artist! I love her little rotating mirror thing.
This scene is so terrible. Really upsets me. Surely they could have found some way to portray ‘pure selfish id’ without going immediately to sexual assault.
Evil!Kirk wears so much eye makeup.
It’s interesting to me that Good!Kirk is so obviously not the real Kirk either, right from the moment he steps off the transporter. (Not to be that person again but Shatner is a better actor than people give him credit for being.)
Spock will save the day! I know that Rand calls for him because he’s First Officer but it’s still interesting that she goes for that name over, like, security.
Evil!Kirk is also where Kirk keeps all his dramatic tendencies.
I feel so bad for Janice in this scene. “What was I supposed to do? He’s the Captain.” Anyway this is why this is still a problem.
That dog omg.
“Set phasers to stun.”
“The search party is to capture you.” Yeah, that’s hard to explain. “Hey, crew, we’re going to play a little game of hide and seek. I’ll hide first.”
Man this conversation between Kirk and Spock. Leadership is one of my favorite themes in ST and Kirk is probably my favorite fictional leader of all time okay so this means a lot to me. “You don’t have the right to be vulnerable in the eyes of the crew.”
Spock is honestly just so on Kirk’s side, at every single moment. He believes him, trusts him, knows who he is, is loyal to him, is honest with him, knows how to handle him, how to care for him.
Spock likes the dog. He likes animals, in general.
The phaser vocab is so different this early on. “Base cycle.”
Good thing Kirk has makeup readily available to cover up his scratches.
My mom suggested transporting some blankets to the planet. But what if they split into evil blankets!! (Interesting that inanimate objects DO split too though.)
I feel like Kirk tried to do a Vulcan nerve pinch there lol.
“If I’m to be the Captain, I’ve got to act like one.” Immediately goes to a shot of his evil self climbing on equipment.
Spock: I always have a point.”
Spock listing out Kirk’s good qualities: his intellect, compassion, love, tenderness. Telling, lol. A lot of synonyms for how much he loves and admires Kirk. Kirk appreciation hour.
“If I seem insensitive to what you’re going through, Captain, understand: it’s the way I am.” I love this line, it’s perfect, because it has two meanings: how I am is unemotional, which causes me to seem insensitive; but also: I go through what you’re going through all the time, it’s how I am.
“Lower us down a pot of hot coffee or some rice wine.”
Poor Kirk, so many struggles, not enough snuggles.
There’s no way people could live through those temperatures in those clothes and not die. Sulu calling for room service. I love him. (Why did they drop his sense of humor in the movies???)
“A thoughtless, brutal animal... yet it’s me.”
I have a lot of mixed feelings about the main thesis of this ep. But. I do love that Kirk’s courage is in his good side.
And so much compassion....”Don’t hurt him. Don’t hurt my evil side.”
Poor animal. Goes through such a confusing experience. Then dies.
Second Officer Spock. I’ve seen people make a big deal out of this but it’s pretty obvious to me this is supposed to mean “Second in command.” As in Kirk is the “First Officer” as the Captain and Spock is second. He behaves in all ways as the second in command, right down to making that log entry at all.
The AOS verse should have rebooted this ep instead of Space Seed (I say every single episode). I mean, STID had as a theme “Kirk learning what it means to command.” That could be tied in! Also can you imagine, two CPines? Two??
Half alien Spock.
Jim’s compassion is paralyzing him.
Aaaand we’re back on the creepy train with Evil!Kirk.
Evil!Kirk doesn’t care about the crew at all. He can make decisions fast because he only cares about himself, so there’s always an easy answer.
Of course he and everyone else looks to Spock as the authority on Kirks.
Evil!Kirk knows he’s not the dominant one here, that re-combining with Good!Kirk means a certain ‘death’ or at least... being sent back to the depths.
Spock at the transporter as if this were even his department lol.
“I’ve seen a part of myself no man should ever see.”
That flirty face he gives Spock though oml. Get a room.
Ugh Spock’s last comment was so ragingly inappropriate. Hate it. But also, read it as an expression of his own extreme jealousy because he’s definitely a jealous person. Just put through the ‘sexist 60s man’ dialogue-writer translator.
So again, I like the idea of this ep and a lot of the details but the details I don’t like are......hard to ignore.
I liked that the bad side was dramatic, selfish, confused, entitled, and it made sense that he was violent and even lustful. And I liked that Kirk had such a hard time seeing that part of himself and acknowledging it. And I do think it's a good lesson/message that we need to understand our own worst impulses and that those impulses are part of us and maybe even tied to parts of us that we need. But the implication that everyone's a little rapey and that the events of this episode necessarily mean Janice has to work for someone she knows is inappropriately lustful toward her just... are really hard for me to entirely get over.
Honestly her reaction just really makes me so sad. And it annoys me that no one stands up for her, no one says that the Captain was wrong and she didn’t deserve that treatment, “imposter” or no. I guess that's what bothers me more than that Evil!Kirk went immediately to assault, b/c the idea IS that he is lustful, violent, and completely selfish. He cares about himself, his survival, his ship, what he owns, what he deserves. Maybe it is natural he would let the power go to his head and seek out someone who he knows he could manipulate easily into giving him something he wants. Maybe it's no different in a way from stranding the crew on the planet. But no one says "hey, that's wrong what he did. You're entitled to respect from the Captain." And I wish someone had.
I recognize this was made in 1966 and I do generally give ST credit within the context within which it was made, but I am a 2020 viewer and the ep certainly hits home given, you know, everything, so... just some thoughts.
Anyway, another thing I was thinking about during the ep was that I feel like I forget that Spock has two "warring halves" b/c he's half human. Because before he put it that way, I was thinking about how the war in him is between his natural Vulcan emotions and his Vulcan teachings. But now I wonder if the whole "Vulcans are super emotional" thing might actually be quite late in the canon, and initially they were intended to be naturally "emotionless.” But basically I don’t actually know how I headcanon the human and Vulcan halves of him interacting... You’d think I would lol but my take in haicg was really... pretty focused on the Vulcanness of him. I guess I thought of the human half as more of a cultural thing because physically, emotionally, psychologically, and physiologically he appears to be primarily Vulcan.
Talking about this more with my mom, it’s making more sense to me... it is cultural and it’s about expectations. He wants to “honor his father’s teachings” and be Vulcan. But he has a whole half, a whole side of his family, with different teachings and beliefs--what to do with them? When he’s around Vulcans, they are obsessed with his human side. When he’s around humans, they see him as fully Vulcan--which is much easier for him and why he seeks them out imo--but it also is a constant ignoring of part of him he feels guilty for ignoring. When McCoy tells him to be more emotional, does a part of him wonder if he should? For his mom? But then... Vulcans don’t choose to be logical for fun. It’s for safety, it’s for survival. So how can he do anything else but follow his father? Who he also doesn’t speak to for 20 years and has a super complicated relationship with! So it’s difficult.
Anyway. That was an emotionally intense experience for this human person. The next ep is Mudd’s Women, one of the weaker S1 offerings, but still a classic as per usual.
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The Ultimate Fandom Watch List - TV Show Edition
*For those who just don’t know where to start
Disclaimer: This is a limited list of (30) Fandoms (each a television show, excluding two YouTube original series & one adult cartoon). I’m personally apart of most of the Fandoms and can speak on their behalf. Any of the shows that I’m not familiar with have been recommended to me by friends or are series that the general internet space seems to be fascinated with. For every Fandom you enter, exit, take part in, or interact with in anyway there are dozens of others that are similar that you may also greatly enjoy or wish to join. I would encourage all to search beyond this list for shows or Fandoms that best suit you. There is no limit to the number of Fandoms that one can be a part of.
As for the Fandoms listed below, they have been organized in such a way as to highlight the amount of content currently released, the total run time for said content, and how long it would take the average, though dedicated, person to consume and experience the content in a well-organized and highly efficient manner. The number of episodes for each show are currently up to date as of 3/16/18 and the known release dates for any continuing series have been mentioned. Each season has been rounded to the nearest half-minute, minute, half-hour, or hour, respectively. They have been rounded in such a way as to highlight the absolute longest amount of time it would take to complete a single season and an entire series on its own, though the rounding does not necessarily account for time in which episodes are paused, rewound, or interrupted in any way.
It is recommended that all episodes be watched in secluded areas with lights turned off and met with as few distractions in the room or surrounding area as possible (i.e. quiet food, few or no people in the room, no music or background noises of any kind). But because this list is rather lengthy and would take two or three times as long to complete in such a manner (for those who wish to follow any, multiple parts, or even the entirety of this list), or worse never be completed at all, it is recommended that headphones are used when watching content outside of chosen secluded areas and done when not trying to accomplish other tasks as to get the most immersive experience from each show as possible.
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Fandoms:
Game of Thrones – (Total run time: 3,784 mins or 63.5 hrs)
S1: 10 episodes (567 mins)
S2: 10 episodes (549 mins)
S3: 10 episodes (558 mins)
S4: 10 episodes (545 mins)
S5: 10 episodes (563 mins)
S6: 10 episodes (562 mins)
S7: 7 episodes (440 mins)
S8: 6 episodes
Total number of Episodes: 73
The finale (8th) season is scheduled to air in 2019 (Don’t miss out!)
American Horror Story – (Total run time: 3,858 mins or 64.5 hrs)
S1: 12 episodes (520 mins)
S2: 13 episodes (550 mins)
S3: 13 episodes (583 mins)
S4: 13 episodes (644 mins)
S5: 12 episodes (639 mins)
S6: 10 episodes (407 mins)
S7: 11 episodes (515 mins)
Total number of episodes: 84
Season 8 is scheduled to begin September 2018
Bates Motel – (Total run time: 2,141 mins or 36 hrs)
S1: 417 mins
S2: 431 mins
S3: 428 mins
S4: 433 mins
S5: 432 mins
Total number of shows: 50
10 Episodes per season. Each episode is about 45 mins long.
This series is complete
Supernatural – (Total run time: 12,067 mins or 201.5 hrs)
S1: 22 episodes (1,059 mins)
S2: 22 episodes (1,066 mins)
S3: 16 episodes (772 mins)
S4: 22 episodes (1,007 mins)
S5: 22 episodes (1,284 mins)
S6: 22 episodes (1,065 mins)
S7: 23 episodes (975mins)
S8: 23 episodes (980 mins)
S9: 23 episodes (965 mins)
S10: 23 episodes (973 mins)
S11: 23 episodes (961 mins)
S12: 23 episodes (960 mins)
S13: 23 episodes
Total number of episodes: 287
Season 13 is currently airing and will conclude in 2018
This series is renewed for a 14th season
The Walking Dead – (Total run time: 4,472 mins or 74.5 hrs)
S1: 6 episodes (291 mins)
S2: 13 episodes (579 mins)
S3: 16 episodes (687 mins)
S4: 16 episodes (675 mins)
S5: 16 episodes (696 mins)
S6: 16 episodes (750 mins)
S7: 16 episodes (794 mins)
S8: 16 episodes
Total number of episodes: 114
Season 8 is currently airing and will conclude April 28th
Season 9 is scheduled to begin October of 2018
Fear the Walking Dead – (Total run time: 1,637 mins or 27.5 hrs)
S1: 6 episodes (302 mins)
S2: 15 episodes (653 mins)
S3: 16 episodes (682 mins)
Total number of episodes: 37
Season 4 is scheduled to air April 2018
Orange is the New Black – (Total run time: 3,765 mins or 63 hrs)
S1: 729 mins
S2: 779 mins
S3: 766 mins
S4: 766 mins
S5: 725 mins
Total number of episodes: 65
13 Episodes in each season
Season 6 is scheduled to air in 2018
Sherlock – (Total run time: 1,122 mins or 19 hrs)
S1: 265 mins or 4.5 hrs
S2: 265 mins or 4.5 hrs
S3: 326 mins or 5.5 hrs (Includes one special; same run time as regular eps.)
S4: 266 mins or 4.5 hrs
Total number of episodes: 13
3 episodes per season (Not including the special).
Each episode is about a 1 ½ hrs long.
*It is unknown if the higher powers in charge of the series have decided to continue this show with a 5th season or not. Welcome to the Sherlock Hiatus. *
Doctor Who (2005 -present) – (Total run time: 6,530 mins or 109 hrs)
S1: 13 episodes (585 mins)
S2: 13 episodes (585 mins)
S3: 13 episodes (590 mins)
S4: 13 episodes (579 mins)
S5: 13 episodes (611 mins)
S6: 13 episodes (602 mins)
S7: 14 episodes (648 mins)
S8: 12 episodes (589 mins)
S9: 13 episodes (633 mins)
S10: 12 episodes (554 mins)
8 Specials which each premiere on Christmas Day before the new season (554 mins total; about an hour each)
Total number of episodes: 137
Season 11 is scheduled to air in 2018
Z Nation – (Total run time: 2,379 mins or 40 hrs)
S1: 13 episodes (553 mins)
S2: 15 episodes (643 mins)
S3: 15 episodes (634 mins)
S4: 13 episodes (549 mins)
Total number of episodes: 56
This series has been renewed for a 5th season
Animal Kingdom – (Total run time: 1,132 mins or 19 hrs)
S1: 10 episodes (498 mins)
S2: 13 episodes (634 mins)
Total number of episodes: 23
Season 3 is scheduled to air in 2018
This is Us – (Total run time: 1,548 mins or 26 hrs)
S1: 772 mins
S2: 776 mins
Total number of episodes: 36
18 Episodes per season
Season 3 is scheduled to air in 2018
Rick & Morty – (Total run time: 699 mins or 12 hrs)
S1: 11 episodes (247 mins)
S2: 10 episodes (230 mins)
S3: 10 episodes (222 mins)
Total number of episodes: 31
True Blood – (Total run time: 4,351 mins or 72.5 hrs)
S1: 12 episodes (639 mins)
S2: 12 episodes (645 mins)
S3: 12 episodes (656 mins)
S4: 12 episodes (654 mins)
S5: 12 episodes (640 mins)
S6: 10 episodes (552 mins)
S7: 10 episodes (565 mins)
Total number of episodes: 80
This series is complete
The Handmaid’s Tale – (Total run time: 513 mins or 8.5 hrs)
S1: 10 episodes (513 mins)
Total number of episodes: 10
Season 2 is scheduled to air April 2018 (Don’t miss out!)
Shameless – (Total run time: 5,094 mins or 85 hrs)
S1: 581 mins
S2: 623 mins
S3: 653 mins
S4: 638 mins
S5: 650 mins
S6: 650 mins
S7: 656 mins
S8: 643 mins
Total number of episodes: 96
12 Episodes in each season
This show has been renewed for a 9th season
Sons of Anarchy – (Total run time: 5,051 mins or 84 hrs)
S1: 686 mins
S2: 742 mins
S3: 667 mins
S4: 647 mins
S5: 668 mins
S6: 821 mins
S7: 820 mins
Total number of episodes: 92
About 13 episodes per season
This series is complete
Stranger Things – (Total run time: 859 mins or 14.5 hrs)
S1: 8 episodes (395 mins)
S2: 9 episodes (464 mins)
Total number of episodes: 17 episodes
Season 3 is scheduled to air in 2019
Breaking Bad – (Total run time: 2,971 mins or 50 hrs)
S1: 7 episodes (346 mins)
S2: 13 episodes (611 mins)
S3: 13 episodes (611 mins)
S4: 13 episodes (627 mins)
S5: 16 episodes (776 mins)
Total number of episodes: 62
This series is complete
The Grande Tour – (Total run time: 1,484 mins or 25 hrs)
S1: 13 episodes (782 mins)
S2: 11 episodes (702 mins)
Total number of episodes: 24
This series is renewed for a 3rd season
Jessica Jones – (Total run time: 1,348 mins or 22.5 hrs)
S1: 673 mins
S2: 675 mins
Total number of episodes: 26
13 Episodes per season
Luke Cage – (Total run time: 706 mins or 12 hours)
S1: 706 mins
Total number of episodes: 26
13 Episodes per season
Season 2 is scheduled to air in 2018
Daredevil – (Total run time: 1,411 mins or 24 hrs)
S1: 707 mins
S2: 704 mins
Total number of episodes: 26
13 Episodes per season
Season 3 is scheduled to air in 2018
The Defenders – (Total run time: 398 mins or 7 hrs)
S1: 398 mins
Total number of episodes: 8
This miniseries is complete
The Punisher – (Total run time: 688 mins or 11.5 hrs)
S1: 688 mins
Total number of episodes: 13
This series has been renewed for a 2nd season
Girls – (Total run time: 1,769 mins or 29.5 hrs)
S1: 287 mins
S2: 295 mins
S3: 342 mins
S4: 270 mins
S5: 279 mins
S6: 296 mins
Total number of episodes: 62
10 episodes per season (except for season 3 which has 12 episodes).
This 30 min comedy, drama series is complete
Good Mythical Morning – (Total run time: 16,651 mins or 277.5 hrs)
S1: 129 episodes (1,580 mins)
S2: 83 episodes (1,048 mins)
S3: 60 episodes (764 mins)
S4: 76 episodes (1,358 mins)
S5: 125 episodes (1,358 mins)
S6: 113 episodes (1,505 mins)
S7: 136 episodes (1,692 mins)
S8: 101 episodes (1,339 mins)
S9: 116 episodes (1,502 mins)
S10: 106 episodes (1,411.5 mins), (Includes one 22 min special)
S11: 111 episodes (1,415.5 mins)
S12: 192 episodes (1,678 mins)
Total number of episodes: 1,294
Season 13 is currently airing & will conclude in the summer of 2018
Season 14 will begin in the fall of 2018
*Season 12 onwards sees a format shift from 1 episode a day to 3 (15 mins or less) episodes a day. This series is on YouTube 5 days a week and followed by a sort of “after show” on GMMore. This means there is a total of 20 new episodes every week during the newest seasons.*
Buddy System – (Total run time: 322 mins or 5.5 hours)
S1: 9 episodes (132 mins)
S2: 8 episodes (190 mins)
Total number of episodes: 17
Queer as Folk – (Total run time: 3,979 mins or 66.5 hrs)
S1: 22 episodes (1,056 mins)
S2: 20 episodes (952 mins)
S3: 14 episodes (661 mins)
S4: 14 episodes (714 mins)
S5: 13 episodes (596 mins)
Total number of episodes: 83
This series is complete
OZ – (Total run time: 3,217 mins or 54 hrs)
S1: 450 mins
S2: 468 mins
S3: 461 mins
S4: 878 mins
S5: 461 mins
S6: 499 mins
Total number of episodes: 56
8 Episodes per season (except for season 5 which has 16 episodes)
This series is complete
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Total run time: 95,946 mins. (1,605 hrs.)
Total number of Episodes: 2,998
Total days to Complete: 27 days or less
*The schedule options below can be used to complete any of the shows listed on their own. With that being said, the list is also organized for what I believe to be the best way to watch and experience the entire list (from shortest to longest series) and by similar content (if you like one show you might enjoy the ones above or below it). It is recommended that the Marvel shows be watched in the order they appear in. It is recommended that you watch TWD before FTWD & (some) GMM before Buddy System.*
Suggested Watch Schedule:
The Handmaid’s Tale – Based on hour long eps)
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 5 days)
· 5 eps per day (will complete in 2 days)
Animal Kingdom – Based on 45 min eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 12 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 6 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 4 days)
This is Us – Based on 45 min eps (some may be longer)
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 18 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 9 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 6 days)
Sherlock – Based on hour and a half long eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 7 days)
· 1 season (3 eps) per day (will complete in 5 days)
Rick & Morty – Based on 30 min eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 16 days)
· 5 eps per day (will complete in 7 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 6 days)
· 10 eps per day (will complete in 4 days)
Stranger Things – Based on 50 min eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 10 days)
· 5 eps per day (will complete in 4 days)
The Grand Tour – Based on hour long eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 12 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 6 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 4 days)
Jessica Jones – Based on hour long eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 13 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 7 days)
Luke Cage – Based on hour long eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 13 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 7 days)
Daredevil – Based on hour long eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 12 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 6 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 4 days)
The Defenders – Based on hour long eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 4 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 2 days)
· Watch all at once!
The Punisher – Based on hour long eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 7 days)
· 3 eps per day (will complete in 5 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 4 days)
GOT – Based on hour long eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 37 days)
· 5 eps per day (will complete in 15 days)
TWD – Based on 45 min eps (many surpass 45 mins)
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 57 days)
· 3 eps per day (will complete in 38 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 19 days)
FTWD – Based on 45 min eps (some may be longer)
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 19 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 10 days)
Z Nation – Based on 45 min eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 28 days)
· 3 eps per day (will complete in 19 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 10 days)
Breaking Bad – Based on 45 min eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 31 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 11 days)
Shameless – Based on hour long eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 48 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 24 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 16 days)
· 8 eps per day (will complete in 12 days)
SOA – Based on 45 min eps (some may be longer)
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 46 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 23 days)
· �� 6 eps per day (will complete in 16 days)
True Blood – Based on 45 min episodes
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 40 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 20 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 14 days)
· 8 eps per day (will complete in 10 days)
AHS – Based on 45 min eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 42 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 21 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 14 days)
· 8 eps per day (will complete in 11 days)
Bates Motel – Based on 45 min eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 25 days)
· 5 eps per day (will complete in 10 days)
· 10 eps per day (will complete in 5 days)
SPN – Based on 45 min eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 144 days; Seems like a lot, doesn’t it?)
· 3 eps per day (will complete in 96 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 72 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 48 days; That’s better)
· 10 eps per day (will complete in 29 days; That’s what I’m talking about!)
Doctor Who – Based on 45 min eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 69 days)
· 3 eps per day (will complete in 46 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 35 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 23 days)
OINB – Based on 45 min eps (some may be longer)
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 33 days)
· 5 eps per day (will complete in 13 days)
Girls – Based on 30 min eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 31 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 16 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 11 days)
· 10 eps per day (will complete in 7 days)
QAF – Based on 45 min eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 42 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 21 days)
OZ – Based on 45 min eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 28 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 14 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 10 days)
GMM – Based on 15 min videos
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 647 days; As if!)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 324 days; I guess a year isn’t as bad)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 216; You’re getting warmer…)
· 8 eps per day (will complete in 162; Alright, enough kids’ stuff)
· 10 eps per day (will complete in 130)
· 20 eps per day (will complete in 64 days; Now we’re talking)
· 25 eps per day (will complete in 51 days; How dedicated are you?)
Buddy System – Based on 25 min eps
· 2 eps per day (will complete in 9 days)
· 4 eps per day (will complete in 5 days)
· 6 eps per day (will complete in 3 days)
· 1 season per day (will complete in 2 days)
*(If “2 eps per day” schedule is followed, you will complete the entire watch list in 1,499 days or less – by summer of 2022.
If “Max eps per day” schedule is followed consistently and accordingly, you will complete the entire schedule in 328 days or less - by February 2019)*
{This watch list does not include movie or book Fandoms and does no take into consideration work hours, school hours, work/school functions, travel times, vacations, power outages, or any sort of natural disasters [which may disrupt, in-convince, or hinder the completion of this schedule] or sick days, holidays, or weekend days [in which you may surpass the quota for a given day or catch up on lost minutes/hours/episodes]}
!WARNING! ~ The undertaking of this schedule may result in: intense bingeing sessions, anxiety relating to the maintenance of the schedule [use this as encouragement, not a hinderance], loss of sleep, loss of hours or days, dehydration, weight-gain, weight-loss, loss of family time or other social interactions, the development of characteristics taken from favored characters or actors, emotional trauma, emotional scaring, desensitization to human emotion, sexual situations or gore, anxiety, antisocial tendencies or behavior, and may lead to further Fandom involvement.
~ Please consult your physician to know if you are healthy enough to undergo the partaking of this or parts of this schedule. To lose the hours of sleep or physical activity that will be required in order to maintain the recommended schedule. Do Not watch the shows in order to follow or catch up with the schedule while operating heavy machinery or while driving unless you are able to multitask or completely absorb the content without physically looking at a screen. Do Not watch shows at school or work unless you are willing to lose your phone if caught, surpass your data plan, or get behind on mild work. Do Not watch shows in place of extreme or important items, deadlines, tests/projects, or events at school or work. ~Please consult your advisor with any further questions or concerns as well as necessary altercations that need to be made to the suggested schedule in order to allow for a comfortable and enjoyable completion of this watch list.
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Return to Season 1: What Can We Expect (Split Post 1)
Or In Which We talk Run Times and Episode Count
Note: This is a split up of my OG post, no new content added, just split for readability. [Full Post, Part 1, Part 2, Part 3]
We all know that S5 is going to be going back to its roots. It's supposed to emulate S1 from what we have been told.
But what does that actually look like?
There has been debate on the number being either 8 or 9 (1&3 were 8, 2&4 were 9). I considered 10 as a new rounded number to finish it off, but then I realized that 8+9+8+9+8=42.
If you’re new here, 42 is the secret to the universe in Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Universe. It’s big sci-fi nerd stuff. So I can’t pass up this opportunity. Also the first season is 8 episodes, and since they are trying to return to that Season 1 vibe, this would make sense to me.
Also. 42 is divisible by 7, and 7 is tied to Will. If Will is the MC for season 5, then this just helps strengthen the choice.
Averaging at 86 min per ep, S4 was a monster. If we take out eps 7,8,&9 (1.5 roughly, 1.5hr, 2.5hr), the average is a beautiful 73min per episode. S1 was 50min on average. Better yet, S2 and S3 were also about 55min on average. If we look at run times alone. S4 says that it's 9 episodes but if we compare the average times... S4 when compared to S1 has (roughly) 6 episodes worth of content. So S4 is like 15 episodes in a trench coat trying to pass itself off as 9.
Goodness.
We know that they, the creators, want the episodes to be shorter (possible if everything is in Hawkins and no new information really has to be established). We also know that the last episode is going to be 2hrs, or so they say, as the grand finale. I really don’t think that they will be able to drop down to 50 min again. Regardless of the information they need to include. After the spectacle of S4, they need to GO BIG. And I don't just mean the two hour finale.
I suspect that this season is going to be brilliant in cinematography, horror, and effects. It's going to make you sit on the edge of your seat in awe. AND it has to be a good story ending.
I think that the average episode time will be 60min + the 2hr finale. It lets them drop down in time, and gives them the room for the spectacle. It also doesn't highlight just how much of a monster S4 was in terms of time. IDK but having that season as this big outlier in time per ep, feels strange. IDK if they care, but I wouldn't want one of my seasons to stick out like a sore thumb like that.
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