#and isfp are always the quietly misunderstood ones
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cleverheroine · 2 months ago
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"Look guys, it's ISFP and INFP. They're like best friends they go everywhere together...ISFP Is so sweet but so quiet though."
ISFP: "That's because I'm really shy. I find it hard to open up to people I don't know because I'm so quietly misunderstood."
"You pure and uncommon thing...but hey, INFP is pretty quiet too, though. INFP why are you-"
INFP: "Because I'm talking to someone else right now!"
"Uh...who?? And where?"
INFP: "You wouldn't know them."
"I'll bite...I know most of the types. Try me."
INFP: "it's....erm...it's a person I made up in my head."
"Of course it is. How's that going for you?"
INFP: "Better conversation than this one.."
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confusedinfj · 6 years ago
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Infj VS Infp
I'm always disowning a lot of so-called infj features and saying they're actually mistyped infp and isfp features, so here's a summary for you. You can mainly tell an infj and an Infp apart by how they are when they're stressed or angry.
I am NOT saying infjs are perfect. They just have different faults than the ones commonly ascribed to them.
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An example of an angry infp. Tom Hiddleston hearing misquotes of Shakespeare 😂
The Fi DOOR SLAM. Yes, you heard me: the Fi DOOR SLAM. This occurs when Fi takes offence and has to cut a person off or ruin its image of self. It looks like a silent tantrum, and it is not a noble thing, no matter how hard fake infjs try to make it sound.
Passive aggression. Wait, is the Infp angry at me, or are they just tired? No, I think that comment was a dig at me. I can't tell....
Silent tantrums. When your infp doesn't speak to you, and manages to cut you out and make you feel excluded while including you just enough that no one else notices. Mad skillz.
Weird thinking. Like the modern Sherlock. Weird positions, weird rituals - just a bit weird really.
Incomplete ideas. Infps are likely to change their mind five times in a debate. Inferior Te can't help it.
Certain about feelings. Fi users will say they don't know what they're feeling, but they can usually have a pretty good guess. They'll usually be able to work it out without too much help, and if they can't it will be evident in their behaviour. If your i*fp cries over spilt milk, it's okay. They probably feel better now.
Short term feelings. Similar to above. Fi users say things they don't mean when they're upset, because, in that moment, they do mean them. Fe users can really struggle with these 'shallow emotions', which are powerful but short lived. I used to think Fi users were lying about not meaning things they'd say while angry, but then I heard of mbti and I was like - oh. They're just not me. Let's just say Fi emotions are like oceans. Deep and intense, but they swimming all over them, so they kinda know what's going on.
Turbulent. Infps lead with feeling, and - particularly when they're younger - feelings can change. That's why infps are on a quest to find their inner selves. They want to understand how they really feel about things.
A need to be misunderstood. Yes, contrary to everything they indicate, infps don't want to be understood. They want you to understood that they're a mysterious soul - that's about it. Fi makes an Infp feel special, and if you crack their Fi code they will instantly feel worthless. (btw infps, it doesn't work that way. You're still special.).
Play the victim to tell you off for hurting them. Aw, poor little infp is upset because I didn't want to do exactly what she wanted. Poor little infp is brooding quietly in a corner. Awww. TOO BAD INFPS. Ignore and they might actually tell you what's wrong 😎 This is the Infp's second shadow function (critical parent) at play here - Ni. It lets them know most people will pity them if the use the victim act, because they feel bad. Critical parent Ni SHOWS YOU WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO THEM. And yes, intps do this too.
Zero Se. They're not even sure if Se is real. What is it? If an Infp is showing signs of Se you should probably take them home, give them a book and a hot drink, and just watch them like a baby. Se in infps is unnatural. They will become even more quickly overwhelmed by stimuli than an infj because of this. But they're more likely to be in touch with their body because of Si.
Snappy control freaks when stressed or down. If you have an inf* friend and you can't call the last letter, think about what they do when stressed or sad. Do they snap at you? Say things they don't mean later? Obsessively try to control your behaviour and their environment? That's inferior Te.
Liked in spite of everything. If you can't type someone and people say they love them in spite of everything, they're almost definitely an i*fp. After all, they're still cupcakes 🎂
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The face of an angry infj... Pewdiepie talking defending how much money he earns 😂 look, it's all in the eyes tbh.
The Infj door ajar. When you make it clear to the infj that they're not wanted, so they go home and close their door. But if you come back and say sorry they open it ever so slightly so you can prove yourself before you come back in.
Sudden aggression. Yes, you heard me. SUDDEN AGGRESSION. Fi mistypes have made it seem like infjs are the most subtle, passive aggressive people ever. Well they're not. Infjs will try to resolve their issues before telling you, so the depth of their grievance may overwhelm you. You might not get it the first time they tell you. So they get frustrated and appear to suddenly get very angry. Am I saying this is a good thing? No, but IMHO it's better than not telling anyone what you're upset about. Anyway, infjs only yell at people they really care about, to finally get their point across, so bear that in mind. If an infj is yelling at you they are 2000% done.
Silent anger. Ever so slightly different from a silent tantrum, because... It's anger. Every one who has ever seen an infj in their rare angry state has reported it to be scary (it's rare because an INFJ'S default reaction is sad). If an infj is telling you what's wrong you can fix the problem. If an infj is silent, you probably can't fix that.
No perceivable thinking, until weird questions. This is why infjs can be mistyped as Ne users or Te users. Occasionally they will need to think through an idea aloud (weak Ti), and thanks to the Ni-Ti loop it's probably some weird stuff. Infjs are also perceived as arrogant and thoughtless thanks to Ni- Ti, since it means they've probably thought about most things already and can just ANSWER when you ask them.
Complete ideas. Most of the time when an infj shares a thought it will be complete, which is why infjs often win arguments. Their Ni-Ti hasn't just considered their position, it's also considered your position, and your position on their position.
What R feelingz? Not all F types are the same. Some are Fe users, and let me be clear: they don't have Fi. They don't know why they feel tense - they probably didn't even realise they did feel tense. If your infj displays any form of emotion it is much deeper than it probably appears. Infj crying over spilt milk? Something is very wrong. You have to make them talk about themselves in the third person so they can work it out, because you probably can't. (*applies to Enfjs too, and all Fe users*).
Deep feelings. No, I'm not saying Fi users don't have deep feelings. I'm saying if an infj is crying about one thing, that's probably just the surface. People often complain that infjs and Enfjs in particular are emotionally mean for not sharing the full depth of their feelings, but in reality they don't know it's there. *nfjs are just sailing on the ocean of their emotions, they don't know what's what. So if they do mention something to you, take it seriously and times it by about 1000% in your head for full impact. *nfjs don't say things they don't mean when they're angry, but they may say things they've been keeping to themselves in a way they later regret. So if an *nfj is saying horrible things to you about you, don't assume they don't mean them: they do. Just try and filter the anger out and pretend they said them nicely 😂 Note: saying things in a way they regret means they may imply things they didn't mean. *nfjs don't always hear the full implications of things until they're said aloud, so try to hear the gist of what they're saying rather than taking it literally. It's why *nfjs often accidentally say things that sound dirty. They just don't realise until Fe filters it through people's reactions. 😂
Assertive. Infjs aren't as mysterious as Fi mistypes have led you to believe. In fact, infjs often tell you exactly who they are and how they work, only to be disappointed that most people don't lead with Ni and aren't trying to construct a picture of how they work. So next time your infj is upset because you don't understand them, realise they probably explained it to you already.
A need to be understood. Infjs want you to understand them. They only kind of understand themselves, and they could use some help. Don't accuse an infj of deliberately being mysterious, cos it's not true. They legit don't have a clue, k?
Tell you off for hurting them by keeping you accountable. INFJ'S critical parent is Fi, so prepare to take a good look at yourself in the mirror. If an infj feels the need to tell you off for hurting them, it's going to be calm, it's going to be rational, and it's going to hurt. You will feel guilty, because Ni-Fe will tell you exactly why you did it and why it hurt the infj. For example, maybe you lied to an infj. An infj would tell you it hurt them and go on to say something like, 'why lie about it? You know what that tells me? That tells me you knew you were doing something wrong. Because otherwise you wouldn't have felt the need to keep it from me.' And suddenly you will feel worse than them, as the infj realises the problem is yours, not theirs.
Zero Si. I don't even really know what Si is, that's how much I have it. If your infj is exhibiting signs of Si they're in a crippling state of anxiety/depression where they're trying to micromanage their world in an attempt to survive. It won't work, make them party. Zero Si also means you should take your infj seriously if they say they're sick. Idk why, but infjs NEVER look sick. Even when they're dying, they never look sick. And because of zero Si Infjs don't often feel a sickness coming on. It just hits them, and they wallow in misery, trapped in the prison that is their body 😭
Reckless when stressed or a little down. If you're in doubt about your inf* friend, think about what they do when they're stressed or sad. Do they want to go out with you? Party with you? Just do anything but stay home? That's inferior Se.
Disliked for no reason. If you can't type someone and everyone dislikes them, but no one really knows why, they're an infj. After all, they're just so... Not normal🐔
Edit: here are some pictures that symbolise for me what an infp-infj relationship of any kind is like. This is an over-idealised relationship, because fake infjs (infps) often talk about being friends with the real infps, and it's really just infp-infp 😂
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And here are two which way seem contradictory. The infj is on the right in both pictures 😋
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MBTI types as fairies
INFP- a russet haired fairy with garments in subtly varied hues of rose, green and gold. Passionate about everything lovely, sweet but sometimes unbendingly stubborn. Their idealism sometimes gets them down, as nearly nothing could ever live up to the magic world in their head! Loves preserving fairy traditions in fresh but faithful ways. Wears a blossom hat. INTP- Usually seen as quiet except by their friends, this fairy can be perceived as much more clever and mysterious than they really are. They have short attention spans, but love to learn. Though willing to help the others, they somehow don't get asked much (maybe because it’s easier to just do a job oneself than supervise this impractical creature). They do, however, very often show up with suggestions no one else has though of.  Sometimes awkward and insensitive, but even though they do value facts and truth more than anything, they have lots of feelings and really care about the other fairies. ENFP- a colorful, emotional fairy whose wardrobe features very color in the garden- sometimes several in one outfit! Brings enthusiasm to every area they visit- they especially love the arts, dancing is a particular forte. They are also very smart, and because they are so enthusiastic they often get more accomplished than, say, INTP. They love being around their friends but they also like, say, reading by themselves by the brook. ENTP- a feisty, prickly little fairy who is clever and witty. They wear subdued colors as a rule, but despite that manage to stand out. Sometimes lazy about boring things, they are quite dedicated to the things they care about. Smart and creative, and consequentially can be a bit tactless- though they love teasing,  sometimes their most rude comments are completely unintentional. They pretend to be very tough, but deep down are kind of softies. INFJ- a mystical fairies who loves the water and the creatures in it. They often sit by their pool for hours, staring at their reflection and musing. Their keen intuition helps them advise the other fairies, when they aren't too busy quietly working on their aquatic creatures book. Sometimes, their sensitivity can get away from them, leading them to feeling isolated and misunderstood. But really, these kindly fairies aren’t too hard to ‘get’ if you know them well.  INTJ- Owlish and solitary, this fairy lives in a hollow tree lined with shelves of books. They are the ones to ask questions about fairy history, science, or literature. INFP fairy talked/charmed them into allowing visits to their library often but otherwise this fairy can like their own company a little too much... ENFJ- a fairy with flair, who loves red roses and emerald foliage. They love hosting the seasonal fairy festivals, orchestrating music, food and fun for all. But when it comes to their true passion, this fairy just wants to make the world better- either by making people happy through their parties or their creative work. They take care of other fairies, sometimes too much- they have to be reminded often to take care of themselves! ENTJ-  The ruler of the fairy kingdom, this is a put-together fairy who knows how to be the boss and get things done. Sometimes they have to remind themselves that the most practical decision isn’t always the very best one, if it’s not the best for the citizens. They put a fair amount of thought into their wardrobe, too, recognizing what a difference this makes in how a ruler is perceived and even liked. If they go a bit overkill on the gold glitter and extravagant crowns,well- who can blame them? ISFP- this fairy is good friends with INFP fairy. They two of them are the classic fairy archetypes- painting flowers, dancing in the moonlight and talking to bunnies. They almost always wear beautiful colors, made even more vibrant by the paint splatters than often bedeck their clothes. They are generally content  and kind. ISTP- hear the sound of hammering? That's this tinkerer, building, fixing and inventing in their little workshop. They are loyal to their pals, but like being alone otherwise. They are never happier than when they are tinkering!! (Think Tinker Bell.) Sometimes they do have to remember to consider others opinions and not be too sassy... ESFP- Sparkly as a firefly and twice as showy, this is the fairy who loves performing more than anything  else! They tend to be the star of the summer equinox light show, the fall lantern fest, the winter ice sculpture exhibition and the spring blossom parade. They are always dressed to impress- vibrant hibiscus is their favorite-  but their good friends know they also love curling up in milkweed fuzz robe and chatting over a sweet nectar tea. ESTP- this fairy is the daredevil of them all. They are the ones you'll see lassoing hawks, rodeo riding rats and jumping off trees with their wings tied, for a midair Houdini style escape. They can be pragmatic though, and are dedicated to keeping the fairy kingdom safe (just not always keeping themselves safe!). ISFJ- baking fairies who wear buttercups and pink roses, usually with a leafy green apron. They like taking care of the other fairies, but sometimes forget that their way isn't always the best one. However, without them, a lot of things would never get done, and ESTP would be hungry a lot more often. ISTJ- Rarely spotted without some sort of list nearby, theses fairies are the planners. They seem to enjoy managing the things the other types might forget to do. They like having fun, and they really like eating(the two are typically synonymous for them, actually).   ESFJ- The friendliest fairy, with a huge garden for ISFJ to get cooking supplies from and for ISFP to paint and gather bouquets from. They know a lot of flora lore and love to share it, both verbally to anyone who’ll listen and also by providing veggies, fruits, herbs and anything else that will grow.  ESTJ- While this fairy can be a bit uptight, they consider most everyone their friend and only boss them around because they truly believe they know best. After all, they spent three days preparing a list of one days actions, and they never can see why everyone wouldn’t just follow it. They love to party, though- as long as it’s scheduled at least a day in advance.
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