#and im not using the term nonbinary for a reason cuz i think that its left vague etc etc

[dimension20stuff]

Bitching and moaning under the cut

I really loved a lot of what happened in that episode. Putting aside my complaints about some beloved headcanons becoming canon contradictory (I know that's not really a big deal), Baron now canonically using he/they is just. So disappointing to me.

When Cassandra was she/her in ep one I was bummed, but then they switched to she/they and i was like oh, ok, maybe it's a plot point about reflecting Kristen and Kristen's arc with herself, ok yeah that's cool.

But now Baron, another canonically they/them character is now he/they. And I would LOVE if new characters were introed with multiple pronoun sets, or if established NPCs like Zayn or Tracker or whatever started using he/they or she/they. I would love if we were ADDING rep for neutral & gendered pronoun users, but this just feels like TAKING rep from characters that previously only used gender neutral pronouns....

And I KNOW they aren't major characters and only appeared for a bit but it just feels shitty to me. Like if Garthy's card suddenly had he/they I feel like people would be upset?

And people have mentioned that Baron was called by a number of pronouns in SY but i think that was a product of not stating the pronouns to the players in game. When the players in The Seven he/him'ed Baron Brennan corrected them. Garthy had a similar problem where players slipped up often but no one ever questions their pronouns or says "Garthy uses he and they".

And maybe I just missed it, but has ANYONE used gender neutral language for Cassandra since like the beginning of ep 1? It feels like the gendered pronouns were added just to make things easier, rather than because of actual change in the character.

I'm a multi pronoun user myself, like normally I would like the rep. But the fact that we are taking away characters that use they/them and not adding ANY new ones as far as I can tell (barring like the Thistlesprings but I don't think that's a very good faith argument) just stings. I'd rather the players accidentally use the wrong pronouns every once and a while than try to make it so if they do slip up it's ok because that's an acceptable pronoun for the character now.

[logicroute]

hi so im normal abt shin tsukimi being nonbinary. most of this is just hcs but this is real to me. read it undercut :3 i also touched on my hispanic shin and him being gay aroacespec by accident. whoops

to me at least. shin hasn’t really ever cared abt his gender that much, it was never really a big part of his life growing up so he never put thought into it or really had a meaning for it in his mind.

he is still transgender to me, he started exploring himself at around.. 14? i would say, it wasn’t anything much, just dressing more GNC, having fun with combining both styles of masculine and feminine clothing and all of that. in a way wanting to seem confusing but not at the same time.

he likes exploring and experimenting with how gender feels for him while hes older, but ya know how it is. it just, doesnt really seem right to pick a side with something you dont really understand yourself.

so thats where the quoigender comes in. its also called WTFgender which i find amazing. quoigender pretty much means that you cant really put a definition on your gender. so i think over time shin starts like. feeling more connected to that term for himself..!!

to me he uses any prns and any terms because of his like.. somewhat lack of care on how people assign a gender to him in a way when he meets new people, like the way that people think of him hasnt reallu been a big thought to him. until the death game which he puts up the front of  someone that is threating to survive but he still doesnt really care abt prns in the death game. a really funny idea is that everyone just uses a completely different set of pronouns for him and everyone just understands that its abt shin cuz of the tone in the voice.

theres also the whole… not really having an idea who you are with the hiyori persona in the death game but whooo cares abt that rn. something something gender playing into how he copied how he remembered hiyori acting like.. so acting more dramatic and the works.. 

and i also hc him as hispanic which.. can also play into his gender in a way. to me his mom is hispanic for context. she herself never liked the idea of gender roles but she never gotten a chance to break out of them..until she moved to japan for school, met shins dad and all of that. so when she had shin she wanted to make sure that nothing was being overly expected from him that fits into any of the norms.. she is also somewhat breaking without knowing but its whimsical for her. i need to talk abt the tsukimis more they mean so much to me.

not to get too ibto his sexuality in the gender rant but. i thibk he knew he was gay for a while, hes alaways liked boys for his whole life pretty much, he hasnt felt attraction to girls at all besides like.. the planotic “ohh ur pretty:)” thing you know. but then also the aroace spectrum kicks in. 

at least to me. shin hasnt really felt romantic feelings for anyone reallly. like he couldnt really place how he feels for ppl on a romantic scale if rhay makes sense, but like he has felt them in rare occasions, but nothing really happens lmao. so the plain term of arospec usually works.

im aceflux shin number one believer. its just really dear to me for some reason. it doesnt really breach out of the demisexual area that much but its okay he gets to have some fun with labels.

also no cisgender person only wears winter clothing all year long. he is most likely nonbinary but he has a minimum wage shift in the hour and is kinda doomed in a death game later so he cant care abt that atm. 

in short uhhh shin tsukimi any pronouns quoigender/nonbinary aroace spec gay real forever. 

[eddie-rifff]

Are you assexual? How does one know? I'm asking because sometimes I think I am, but sometimes I don't... guess I'm confused lol

ayyyy i'm in a similar position! i think im ace.... i think. it is confusing lol. ill put a read more because i ended up writing a bunch, i really hope at least some of it helps!!

(im not an expert in sexuality by any means so most of what i wrote here is through the lens of my personal experience, i dont want to seem like im being like "me me me this is about meee", i only use myself as an example because thats kinda all i have and its what i know best. my hope is that you can compare and contrast your experiences against mine and get something useful from it)

attraction is a sliding scale. i dont know many ace people who experience zero physical and sexual attraction but they exist i know, so, because of that, rather than saying only those people who experience ZERO attraction are ace, i generally call myself ace even though i'm not at that far end, if that makes sense.

my reasons for calling myself ace are this: i find very few people sexually appealing, and have limited feelings of physical attraction as well. i joke about being thirsty for peter hammill or whatever but deadass he and like... andy mackay and bill bruford are the only people that i would slam my fist on a table and say "i wanna fuck this guy". and thats it. three guys who i like for reasons wherein their physical attractiveness is secondary. i didnt find ANY of them to be sexually desirable right away-- it like, crept up on me after quite some time of finding them appealing in other ways. i dont think i have ever been able to look at someone and instantly say "i wanna have sex with that person" (but then again idk if non-ace people do that to begin with lol)

i do find a number of people physically attractive, like i can point to someone and say oh wow they're hot, but i dont want to have sex with them, and i think its that lack of sexual desire that qualifies me, in my mind, as being ace.

that said, because i have never nor will never bone any of the three dudes mentioned above (sigh), i still can enjoy being physical with someone, but surely it hits differently for other people who DO experience more sexual attraction. for me its kinda like... well, this is nice :) in my experience its like... if someone randomly offered you a back massage when you didnt really need one. you'd be like, "oh, ok, sure!" you didnt want one to begin with, but since they offered, it was nice! and THAT said, i could also go the rest of my life never having sex again and it wouldnt bother me one bit-- another point for the "probably ace" jar. i would still feel like punching a hole in the wall when i look at bill bruford because hes so goddamn hot but im not going to sit around and be sexually frustrated endlessly like i know some people would.

of course i cant say what your experience is, but if it looks anything like mine, perhaps you're ace. and if it doesnt... you totally still could be asexual, just on a different part of the spectrum. some people who don't identify as being 100% ace call themselves greysexual (a term im fine with using and probably in the technical sense fits me better, i just say asexual cuz its more widely known/ accepted), some people, one of my sisters for instance, is demisexual, meaning she doesnt find people sexually desirable until she forms a personal connection with them, which is kinda along the lines of being ace but, you know, not entirely.

now, what im about to say might be the opposite of what you were looking for, but my very best advice (advice that helps me, at the very least) is just not to fret over it. im kinda the same way about my gender. i just say im nonbinary. not a boy, not a girl, sometimes i do feel like one or the other, idfk! im just nonbinary. thats how i see my sexuality as well, only i am definitely pointed more in one direction (lack of attraction) than i am the other, so just for the sake of making my life a little less complicated i just say whatever, i guess im asexual. for some people labels are comforting, and if you're one of them then by all means keep searching for your identity, but i will just warn you it may be putting undue stress upon you. all through college i gave myself such grief about being trans or cis or whatever the fuck because i just didnt understand myself and couldnt put myself into a box... so i gave up! and there was such a sigh of relief in saying idk what i am, but if nothing else i am nonbinary. and again, for me, its similar with my sexuality. im not certain of anything, but ill just say im ace and call it a day. just something to keep in mind perhaps.

id be happy to talk off anon if you want but if you wanna stay anonymous thats totally cool! im happy to give input in any case :) i really really hoped this helped in any kind of way!!!