#and i s-ranked with chrom

[sotiredmostnights]

i know everyone likes to put tharja in the "yandere goth girl" category but tbh i feel like pigeonholing her into one specific archetype does a huge disservice to her character. is she obsessed with curses and robin? yes. is she constantly shoved into a fanservice role by intsys? absolutely.

but i think a lot of people forget just how impactful a lot of her supports are...there's something about tharja that makes nearly everyone who interacts with her divulge their deepest secrets and points of anxiety with her. we see this with libra, who tells her of the abandonment he endured at the hands of his parents. we see it with nowi, whose cheerful demeanor slips off as she tells tharja of her missing parents. and although tharja is not the only one lon'qu confides in regarding ke'ri, their support is notably the only one in which lon'qu divulges that there was romantic involvement between he and his childhood friend.

and despite her antisocial exterior, she always listens mindfully and offers to help! she even goes out of her way to discreetly help the shepherds (getting virion to do odd jobs that benefit civilians, interrogating henry to make sure he bears no ill will towards ylisse, etc).

a big thing about tharja is that she IS kind. she IS considerate. she just also has a reputation to uphold as a dark mage and that (paired with her overall awkwardness ofc) makes her true nature hard to see at first glance

[dreamcast-official]

"i've never felt this way about a man" olivia fireemblem are you bisexual

[fore-seer]

chapter 7 is probably one of the worst possible maps to try to train gaius on because the wyvern riders hit like trucks and there are a bazillion other enemies with overlapping ranges and he can’t reliably dodge yet OR survive more than one hit, but do i try it every time anyways? yes

[felikatze]

as soon as i cave in the chrobin posting is gonna be unbearable

[real-fire-emblem-takes]

when I first got into fire emblem I did so by watching walkthroughs of awakening and fates, which led me not to know how fire emblem works. It's been 2 years ever since and I've been getting into fe more seriously (by actually playing the games) and it was YESTERDAY that I found that you can choose who Chrom marries. This entire time I thought that Chrom would inevitably marry Sumia because the person in the walkthrough I watched S ranked them. It took me TWO YEARS to figure that out. Like, I'd see chrobin posts and I'd think "hm that would be difficult considering Chrom is married to Sumia" and generally found the fact that you can S rank Chrom with characters other than Sumia hilarious because I thought the two would be canonically married no matter what

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[unofficialgayawakening]

Rewrites Open

After combing through all the supports in the spreadsheet, one of my team members has provided a list of supports that will need rewrites. Some of these simply fail to meet the mod's quality standards, while others contradict canon or make up lore without basis. As such, every support that I list after the read more is open for anyone to try their hand at writing.

As you're writing, make sure you double-check to make sure nothing you've written contradicts with what we know from canon, and try to avoid making up new lore. As always, I recommend you join the discord server so you can receive feedback on your writing! We can help you polish your support up and make it shine ✨

Regular

Chrom/Panne C-S

Chrom&Cherche C-A

Frederick/Gregor C-S

Vaike/Gaius C-A

Stahl/Lon'qu C-S

Miriel/Panne C-S

Miriel/Aversa C-S

Sumia/Maribelle

Sumia/Gangrel C-S*

Maribelle/Panne C-S

Maribelle/Tharja C-S

Panne&Emmeryn C-A

Flavia&Emmeryn C-A

Flavia/Aversa C-S

Kjelle/Nah C-S

*While the original Sumia/Gangrel submission has an S support, Sumia will not be able to S rank Gangrel unless you are willing to provide a PC support between Gangrel and Cynthia that explains how Cynthia exists.

Family

Owain&Sully PC

Inigo&Tharja PC

Brady&Tharja PC

Lucina&Tharja PC

Kjelle&Lissa PC

Noire&Chrom PC

Noire&Maribelle PC

Noire&Cherche PC

Lucina&Noire SIB

[almoststedytimetravel]

Ranking awakening pairs based solely on the hair colour they give the child

Inigo

Lon'qu/Donnel/Kellem: Basic black hair, hard to wrong. Looks good but nothing special. B tier

Henry/Robin(Default): Am I delusional if I say this is the closest Inigo can get to having pink hair. Perhaps but I still think the low lights in his hair look pink so... S tier.

Frederick: Dark brown looks pretty good on him, nothing special though. B tier.

Ricken/Gregor: The redish orange colour they give isn't bad but it's not great either. C tier.

Libra/Vaike: Blond hair looks pretty good on Inigo. It's a nice soft colour. Though I will say Libra's blond looks a little softer than Vaike's. A tier.

Gaias: There's only on character who looks good with Gaias' bright Orange hair and Inigo is not one of them. However he doesn't look like total ass due to blue and orange being complimentary colours, though the shades to really match. C tier.

Chrom: The fact that Chrom's blue is just a little off from the blue of Inigo's clothes makes me a little infuriated. But it being a darker shade of the same blue makes it a little less infuriating. B tier.

Stahl: Not bad but the green undertones of his hair do bring it down a little bit when compared to Frederick. C tier.

Virion: Same problem with Chrom but worse. It's closer to the shades of his clothing but because it's so close but just a little bit off it makes me more mad! F tier, Virion is not allowed near Olivia.

Robin (But I gave him pink hair in the character creator): S+ tier. Do I really need elaborate, pink hair Inigo my beloved.

[ro-botany]

Offtopic opinions

Awakening is a game that was rushed, and suffered a lot of cuts, but when you pay attention to the history the game lays out, you start to see this rich world they were trying to create. And the plot! It takes a standard "the prince must slay the evil dragon" story and it flips it on its head and uses it to explore cycles of abuse and trauma.

I'm not sure I agree there about the game having a rich world.

There's very little to the world building like Chrom's famous ancestor and Ylisse's First Exalt is just a word for a word copy of Marth without any sort of name. Similarly Chrom's father has no name and the crusade is woefully underdeveloped.

There are also characters like the Hierarch, whom allegedly acted as a mentor to Emmeryn but just betrays her with this big event going uncommented on and the Hierarch having no name, his Japanese name is just the name of his class!

The Taguel are another thing having basically no history outside of things basically copy/pasted from the Laguz and the writers couldn't even get Panne's personal history right; she says in one support her birth mother raised her alongside other taguel, but in another says her mom died when she was an infant so she never knew her or any other taguel.

Compare these all to even the first game having oodles of info on Marth's ancestor and the history of the continent as well as its wars.

Or Orson's betrayal in Sacred Stones to the Hierarch, as well as the long history of the Laguz in Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn compared to the Taguel's inconsistent lore that acts as a mere footnote in Awakening.

Also personally I find Awakening follows all the standard FE tropes to the letter without any sort of diverging from them.

...If you find killing vast swathes of virtual human enemies disturbing, then strategy games centered around war may not be the games for you. This is what we call a genre convention. You gotta be able to handle killing the little pixel guys to enter.

Its not that I find it disturbing but more I feel Awakening treats war like a game and isn't interested in explaining why the protagonists are killing people or the ramifications of killing people.

Its simply playing into "kill brown men because they're ugly and rescue the sexy brown women from them."

Like even Genealogy of the Holy War talked about how the cycle of vengeance affected everyone, how its still sad to kill the Loptous cultists as they are human beings and that even the head of the cult, Manfroy didn't start out evil.

Awakening, to me personally, just seemed like it only cared about making the player feel powerful by having every enemy be either forced to fight them against their will or be a piece of crap that absolutely nobody loved (Aversa's storyline goes out of its way to say nobody mourns Grimleal deaths for example), whilst every women around just threw themselves at the player.

(Second debate hour anon ask I got too busy to reply to when it came in; My Bad anon hope you're doin well.)

"whilst every women around just threw themselves at the player" Anon, I can't stress this enough:

This is the game where M/F MONOGAMY IS A STRICTLY ENFORCED GAME MECHANIC I'm. I just. Did we read the same supports? Because most of the Robin supports I remember are like, Robin failing really badly at making soup, or losing stuff, or teaching people funny slang and then regretting it.

All the supports had to be written to believably be building friendships, because you can still A rank characters with each other after they're married. Because of this, the vast majority of supports only pivot into anything even remotely romantic directly in the S support. It's usually not done well, honestly, imo. But either way that doesn't leave room for this like, harem anime AU you're inventing in your head.

"Women throwing themselves at the player" did you read the support where Robin accidentally gives Sully the shits and she threatens to kill him, anon. Did you.

Anyway. It sounds like you're reaching for reasons to object to this game on some kind of moral grounds. You don't HAVE to do that, though. You can just dislike the game for non-moral reasons. Or for no reason. It doesn't have to be that deep.

Anyway to address your other points briefly I mean, uh, with way too many words as usual lmao

I'm not about to argue that the game is perfect in any respect. It's not even CLOSE. I've said before and I'll say it again that there's a lot of unused potential in Awakening, from places where characterization is thin to the massive gaps in the worldbuilding. The way this game treats Aversa is gross as hell and it has plenty racism problems besides. Trust me, I am not unaware of or ignoring the bad and the ugly.

To be honest? It being deeply flawed is what keeps me coming back to it.

If a game is perfect, there's only so long you can gush about how good it is. If a game is GOOD, but FLAWED? You could write a fuckin thesis about it. Hell, I arguably have, the word count on the collection of Awakening-related meta posts I've authored or made big additions to just keeps on jumping.

Yes, Awakening's worldbuilding has major gaps; but what we got was legitimately interesting! Piecing together what we got is fun for me! Filling in some of those gaps by extrapolating from the facts at hand is fun! Headcanoning in the rest is fun!

Sure, some of the characters and relationships are sorely underdeveloped, and there are some inconsistencies in the supports and that sucks. But seriously analyzing what's there is fun as hell! Taking the things we know and extrapolating personality and relationships is a blast! And for the more major characters, what's there is legitimately compelling as hell - the amount of scholarship the mutuals and I have authored about mister Grima faildragon himself is proof of that. As is the fact that we have honest to goodness essays about Validar of all characters. VALIDAR.

I can't really compare it to most of the other FE games, having not played most of them. I can accept it's not the best FE by a long shot. But I'm also willing to give it leeway for how the release dates hamstrung it, I appreciate the clear love and effort that was put into it anyway, and I respect it a lot for the part it played in keeping the franchise alive today.

And to be perfectly frank, it also is a story that I stumbled across when I was in a rough patch, and it helped me deal with the Horrors, so y'know. It's a really important game to me for that reason.

If its flaws are dealbreakers for you I may not be able to change your mind. That's ok!

But hopefully this at least gives you some insight into why I, at least, am so obsessed with it. It's flawed as hell and that makes it capital C Compelling.

[iturbide]

An update on my FE awakening, whoa a lot of stuff happened like I ended up s ranking chrom but his older sister is dead and there was more war stuff like ballisto is dead now too and validar guy has the emblem, all this stuff is crazy and what was your reaction to that happening for the first time around?

look I'm weak. I love Chrom. I S-ranked Chrom. I regret nothing. It's an excellent choice.

It's honestly hard to remember my initial reactions, though, considering I first played the game almost eight years ago at this point. My memory of events is spotty on a good day, and at this point I've built up so much additional story around the events of the game for one of my WiPs that it's hard to parse out what the original feelings were from what my deeper story examination of events has made.

I do know that I was honestly really sad when Emmeryn died, because I really liked Emmeryn, and I was equally distraught when Basilio died because I really liked him too he was great and I was so hoping he would make it with Lucina's warning and also Validar is the worst I hate him and also I was really scared for Robin by the end of tha chapter for. You know. Reasons.

[goddessalexissara]

I looked at Fire Emblem Engage Leaks So You Don't Have To

This is a thread of vague statements to answer questions, these basically are just answers to questions I had before looking at leaks I figured others might have too.

The game has a few surprise characters left

The game has more then one potentially ehh to a marginalized group characters

The game seems to have a lot less VA work than 3H

The game does seem to be doing things to keep the difficulty up even in normal mode.

Enemy recruits are back in some compacity.

The pace of get units is more spread out then in Three Houses.

Emblem Rings get a little more spotlight then their debut.

I've been avoiding story spoilers where I can but it seems like there is a tiny bit more to it then evil dragon bad but like it seems like it is mostly that. Don't expect PoR/RD/ or Fodlan levels of engaging their worlds politics. It's probably under New Mystery TBH.

S ranks are back despite what previews said they simply aren't in the Support Menu. Like in three houses you get a ring and can give that ring.

You can S rank anyone regardless of gender but some are explicitly platonic in English likely to avoid minor characters from having implications with Alear. Apparently in Japanese they are basically all explicitly romantic no matter what, every singe character even characters in pre established relationships. The ring is apparently like a promise ring so it's not a getting married now thing but a promise of romantic love in the future thing at least on the JP end.

I will put under a read more the list of sapphic s ranks I personally find romantic or not based on the English side of things, I do not read Japanese or i'd also score that.

Main story is about as long as awakening but with less paralogues.

The DLC emblems are in the games code, these could be just wave 2 but are likely all the DLC, we'll have to see. Spoilers I guess but not really: Hector, Veronica, Soren, Camilla and Chrom. We simply won't know until they announce wave 2.

That's all I have for now, if you want to know something in these kind of vague terms, I can try and answer but I am not really going into numbers or looking to find out every plot point, I do want a tiny bit of surprise when I play.

The list of romance with women. Very Romantic: Merrin, Ivy, Chole, Goldmarry, Panette Pretty Romantic: Timerra, Citrinne. Jade More Subtexty: Yunaka, Lapis There Is Something There: Spoiler Woman 1, Hortensia We Can Be Besties Forever: Celine, Framme, Etie, Anna, Spoiler woman 2

[sotiredmostnights]

it's so hard to pair chrom with anyone when half his suitors strike me as lesbians

[randoimago]

Just started playing fire emblem awakening the other day! It feels really weird (but refreshing) being the supporting character rather than the main character.

I really enjoyed being a magic user instead of having a sword, that felt really refreshing. But it does feel weird playing a talking character and then looking at Byleth in Three Houses since they hardly say a thing (I get the whole emotion thing is weird, but there could've been some character development with that)

Idk what part you're at, but if Chrom isn't S supported by a certain chapter then he marries whoever is the highest rank with him (except Robin I think). Just letting you know since I didn't and he ended up with someone I wasn't trying to pair him with, if that's something you care about anyway 😅

I did go back and replay Awakening a bit ago, I haven't finished it, but I should get back to playing it 😅

[felikatze]

Hi I hate downloading programs and spending money but I’m very interested in your fire emblem guys. Do you have any advice as to how I can best look into more details about them?

You are at the correct address, friend. You say you hate downloading programs but alas it is the best way to not spend money.

In the following you will find a basic summary of FEA, an abridged 3DS emulation guide, and whatever else abt FEA i word vomited.

This got long.

Basic Gist: My Guys (this is the second time someone has called them that, amazing) are Chrom and Robin from Fire Emblem Awakening for the 3DS. If you just want the basics, you can watch a let's play of them, I guess? I used this cutscene compilation to check things for my. fea fanfic. and god bless it is a playthrough where chrom and robin are married because it just makes the story better. it does.

If you don't know shit about FEA: Chrom, prince of the halidom of Ylisse, finds an amnesiac tactician out in a field. They, Robin, join his militia, the Shepherds. The group sets off to combat a new threat of zombies. At the same time, they attempt to solve the mystery of "Marth", a masked person who came through a weird portal together with the zombies.

Listen man you know who "Marth" is. I don't need to tell you.

If you don't know shit about Fire Emblem: FE is an SRPG fantasy series frequently referred to as "anime chess" because it is. It has a permadeath mechanic (if a unit dies, they r gone forever) but newer games, including FEA, also include a non-permanent death mode. The choice is yours.

The writing: certainly questionable sometimes. The Valm Arc™ is kind of famous as filler, because a new character gets to be protagonist for a few chapters. Say'ri, you're neat an' all, but do we need to do this?

Disclaimers: fea is kinda colorist. Which if you know fire emblem is (deep sigh) to be expected. Why are only non-playable Plegian characters brown and all the playable ones white? You know why.

Side characters rely heavily on gimmicks to define them which is either endearing or annoying. Depends on you. Also there is a loli dragon and I've seen THREE separate mods that redesign her. God people hate nowi's design (i'm people)

The game has a marriage mechanic. If two characters reach Support Rank S, they get married (straight married only though there IS a gay mod). Then their time traveling kid from the future shows up. You can have Chrom and Robin get married in-game (if Robin is a girl. I specifically picked F!Robin to do so) but they will REGARDLESS be the sappiest bitches on earth about each other. Even if they are married to other people. It can feel kind of awkward, I'd imagine.

Despite my disclaimers I will say that I was overall engaged with FEA's story on a moment to moment basis; it moves at a brisk pace without dragging, I found the emotional conceit at the heart of it all deeply compelling, and I overall just had a lot of fun.

With a cutscene comp you get the usual drawbacks: no side content. Some of the supports (optional conversations between characters) are fucking hilarious (looking at henry) and you also miss out on paralogues (sidequests) which include the second generation characters besides Lucina (my daughter whom I love).

If it's 3DS emulation you're looking for, Citra is your best friend. It's available for both PC, both Windows and Linux, though I have better experience on the former. It also has an Android App now, and from my scant experience with it, it runs great. Citra is definetly the No. 1 3DS emulator. No competition.

If your PC isn't on the higher end, fiddle with settings until you get to a grade of chugging that you're comfy with. I don't know what i did to get the game run smooth. Set audio to mono though bcuz it cuts out echo from lag.

As for a totally legit copy of Awakening, my usual go to vimm's lair doesn't have it, but the Reddit Roms Megathread does. Reddit is the best piracy help site fr.

Awakening Rom: Here. It's in alphabetical order, so scroll down to F till you find it. Or use the search bar.

Awakening DLC: Here. Same as above, use the search bar. Europe or USA version at your discretion.

If Citra complains that the files are encrypted: use the Batch Cia Decryptor. It's for windows.

DLC can be installed via the handy dandy "Add DLC" button citra has. I recommend dlc solely because the Future Past dlc has soo much Grima characterization that makes me go rabid. Highly recommend. I watched cutscenes of this one because I'm not smart enough to actually beat it.

When playing on Citra, I recommend turning off battle animations, since they're the laggiest part to emulate. Without them, my game ran smooth.

If you specifically want to see Chrobin, you will get more than enough of them in the base game. If you want to see my babygirl grima, you will likely question my choice in blorbos from base game alone.

There's also Fire Emblem Heroes, the mobile game, which has the famous day of devotion Chrobin duo unit, but: not worth it.

On gameplay tips: I'm very bad at strategy games. FEA is toughest early game in my opinion. Use Frederick liberally for his high defense stat until he's trash mid-game. Pair up is busted. If you pair Lon'qu up with someone who gives him + Speed (like Panne <- I am biased toward this pairing) he is basically unhittable.

Chrom and Robin are both very good units who will SHRED. robin's future kid morgan also shreds. #morgansweep. there's like. a whole skill inheritance system and like ideal parent combos for good stats or whatever but I got by fine ignoring it. i benched basically all of the second gen units except morgan and lucina. rip to them.

The base game can be vry easy it's just the dlc that is Very Difficult <- looked dlc up on youtube.

Additional Chrobin content includes, once again FEH, but i mainly just look at the art anyway, Fire Emblem Warriors (solid mid tier game but high tier co-op chaos experience with extremely garbage plot), and most recently the Fire Emblem Engage DLC, where Chrom and Robin get to chill in a bracelet as ghosts together. I don't have engage i just (once again) looked it up on youtube.

If you do decide to play FEA and like it, i will recommend you my favorite chrobin fics in a heartbeat. And, god forbid, you like Grima a smidgen as much as I do, i have. so many thoughts about him. And fic recs. Chrom/Grima ficrecs even. I love chrobin and chrom/grima equally because [if my incessant posting didn't spoil this twist i will be geniuenly suprised.]

TLDR:

watch cutscenes of FEA on youtube or emulate it ig. have fun.

[real-fire-emblem-takes]

I think one of the determines of the way FE is set up is with the support system. While it's a fun optional thing to do for mini-stories and sometimes stats. It's optional. something you don't have to do. Meaning that all these little stories are easily skippable, meaning that someone's understanding of a character can't be the same because you know this person isn't 100% S ranks with ever possible written support.

I find it the reason why most popular characters in main stream ARE main story related. People love Ninian because she's directly effecting the plot. Felix is a more recent example, being such a heavy foil against Dimirit the entire story. Bernnadetta getting this because she is part of an unskippable tutorial quest to get people drugs, making people peak interest into her story. We like Ike because of Smash bros. Robin while having less lines in game compared to chrom is more popular because ITS YOU!!!

IDK, wish there was a nicer site then fandom wiki to read through all the supports (I know Serenise Forest is there but some games don't have all the supports transcribe there) or FE is somehow able to weave the charcters more into the story for a bit longer then just the first inroductery chapter to help peak player intrest into learning more about the charcters..

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[unofficialgayawakening]

Spotpass Update

After a lot of thought, I've rationalized half of the spotpass characters being able to S rank the mothers in the game. Here are my conclusions:

Priam - Not story relevant, so he's safe and can't cause any paradoxes

Aversa - We have no idea what happened to Aversa in Lucina's timeline. It's easy to say she was always destined to be defeated and retreat to the Wellspring of Truth and defect to Chrom's side, and it's possible this could have happened before Chrom dies because Aversa is follower and not a leader- she does what she's told, but she isn't the person calling the orders. Validar could easily replace her after she defects, given the time.

Yen'fay - We never learn what became of the Yen'fay from Lucina's timeline, so it's very possible that Chrom was able to recruit him instead of killing him at Demon's Ingle. There's no proof that Spotpass Yen'fay is the one from Lucina's timeline (he just says it's an alternate timeline where Say'ri dies but this could mean a different timeline entirely), but in this situation he can't be, because he would have memories of marrying his spouse and having a kid. We are also shown several times throughout the story that fate always wants to make the outcomes of the original timeline happen- this force could be what causes Yen'fay to wander through the Outrealms and into the game's timeline in the first place. It's a big lengthy explanation, but it's reasonable that Yen'fay could have fathered any of the children in the original timeline!

So these three will have S supports completely open, with no convincing or further explanation required. The other three, however...

Walhart, Gangrel, and Emmeryn are all supposed to be dead. While you could argue that they survived like Aversa did, it's much harder to do so and their role in the story throws a wrench into things. Emmeryn's death is so central to the story that it quite frankly makes no sense that her Spotpass iteration exists. In the original timeline, because the way she died was via assassination and not a noble sacrifice, the first war with Plegia against Gangrel stretched on for much longer, and ended with much more bloodshed. I cannot see Gangrel surviving that after everything is said and done. Lucina also makes no mention of Walhart or Gangrel ever defecting and joining Chrom's army, so it's safe to assume this didn't happen in her timeline and there's no way for them to father any of the gen 2 kids.

While I'm not completely banning S supports between them and the mothers, I will keep them restricted until a reasonable explanation for the kid's existence within what we know of Lucina's timeline is provided.

[almoststedytimetravel]

Ranking awakening pairings based solely on hair colour

Cynthia

Frederick: It gets her close to her default hair colour. Dark brown is hard to go wrong though it's nothing special. B Tier.

Henry, Robin (default): The white looks good on anyone, hard to go wrong and it's a nice soft colour. A Tier.

Gaias: I'm not gonna suger coat it, looks like shit. Just absolute garbage. Gaias' hair only looks good on one character (Maybe two) characters and Cynthia certainly isn't one of them. F Tier. I don't care how good your support is stay away from that woman.

Chrom: Same problem I had with Inigo, the shade of blue is just slightly off and it annoys me. The way it clashes with her light pink armour also makes it look off. Though that's present with any of her hair colours since it applies to her clothing as well, but its more noticeable with the Chrom hair. C Tier.

Robin (But I gave him blond hair in the character creator): Hehe, she looks like Cynthia Pokemon... (I wish Sumia could support Vaike or Libra). S Tier

Sumia's support list being so short is something I mourn everyday. I love Sumia so much and her not interacting with very much of the cast makes me so, so sad.