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What’s your interpretation of Naomi?
oh boy, this one is going to be a ride.
so, you'll notice that i avoid talking about naomi often; i tend to separate her and junichirou when i talk about them despite the tanizaki siblings being intrinsically linked in canon. that's where i draw my fanon.
because i don't think junichirou is a person without naomi. there is no junichirou without naomi. naomi is the reason that junichirou is the "closest to evil" in the agency; because he does not care for human life if it isn't hers. we see even in the first few episodes and such - junichirou is willing to put it all on the line if naomi is hurt. junichirou would've killed higuchi because naomi was hurt. junichirou was willing to assassinate the port mafia don because it threatened naomi's part time job.
naomi does not do things without junichirou; she alters the course of events surrounding junichirou at every turn. naomi is the one who screwed up kunikida & junichirou's plan to get dazai to do the brunt work during atsushi's entrance exam.
whether they're siblings or not - honestly, i don't think they are, like many don't. even if they were, it doesn't change the fact that they are not people without each other. naomi makes decisions; junichirou follows them. naomi is insecure about something - junichirou enables her. whether they're lovers or best friends or something and just lying, it doesn't change that.
they both manipulate each other, to an extent, and we often see that junichirou doesn't have a spine when directly interacting with naomi rather than interacting in her defense.
he doesn't see humans as people because of naomi, and i think she's the same. we don't see her as much as we see junichirou, which is why i'm mentioning him so much, and because i truly do not think you can separate the two while keeping close to canon.
my fanon differs a lot from canon, and i know that, but as far as canon goes - naomi manipulates junichirou as much as the inverse, and at the end of the day, naomi is the one pulling the strings there.
you could argue that he is, too, but even taking the novel she's based on into account - she holds the cards there and she does so for a reason. she's incredibly smart - i think she'd be an excellent strategist if given the opportunity, she keeps a level-head in situations no one else does (like when she got fukuzawa while everyone else was arguing about it).
she also intrigues me - why is she an office worker, and junichirou is a detective? is it because he has the ability? as far as we see, he has no moral inclination toward detective work and he often becomes violent due to naomi following him into the field - why not make her a full detective, give her the protections a detective does, like a gun? why does naomi rely so heavily on junichirou? why does junichirou rely so heavily on her?
there's not a lot we know about her, and i doubtlessly am missing several things, but all in all, i think naomi is an incredibly interesting character and we should see more of her, and that she is, unquestionably, the cause behind all of junichirou's actions. naomi says jump, he says how high.
#and again. the inverse is also true. they're incredibly codependent with each other.#there's a reason i tend to leave her out because they are not people without each other#and i don't. want to get into that without giving it a 20k one shot you know#cherri.txt#bsd#bungou stray dogs#naomi tanizaki#junichirou tanizaki#i hope this is articulated well! it's kind of all over the place so forgive me but this is what i got man
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I didn’t read chapter 2 of “The Doll and the Dragon” yet but I just wanted to say how good it felt to have been notified that you updated it today!
I only read the summary for the second chapter but I don’t blame some of the council members for having some doubts on what the gods’ intentions are. Or rather doubts of her existence.
Because there’s a very good reason that can pop up in the primordials’ minds to think that she might be a problem for them.
Let’s look at it from a Twelvian’s perspective on the matter :
The gods are the divinities that we treasure and pray to. We have been doing this since the dawn of time and we all believe nothing, absolutely nothing, can beat them let alone make them quiver.
So when a random race from outer space decides to land on the World of Twelve, we all learn that this race is not only far advanced in technology, but it is also composed of six demigods, each with a dragon sibling, acting as a council with their king.
We are understandably terrified by the amount of power they have so we pray for the gods to help us get rid of our peculiar but frightening problem.
Days pass and we eventually learn that our divinities, instead of kicking the eliatropes as we have demanded, decided to give these eliatropes a Sadida doll as a peace offer to get along.
Why would the gods do this? Can’t they just kick them out? The gods should be stronger than some demigods and dragons so why would they just let them stay?
Are they also afraid? No that’s impossible, they can’t be! Unless they know something that we don’t know?
If the gods decided to appease the eliatropes instead of answering our prayers then we should fear the eliatropes even more.
The gods have been genuine on their offer but what really counts is the twelvians’ reactions to it.
A lot of them just want the eliatropes gone so if the people learn that the gods have offered these eliatropes a Sadida doll, they might see this action as a peace offering. This would make the Twelvians assume that the gods, the most powerful beings in the krosmoz, are scared and don’t want trouble with the eliatropes so instead of trying to kick them out, they simply try to get along.
Hiya!!
First of all, don't worry! Read at your own pace/when you have time!
As an enjoyer of long chapters as well as a provider, I understand not all stories can be done with in a matter of minutes. In my personal experience, it usually takes me up to an hour to read a 10k words long fic and about two to read a 20k words long one. It's okay.
But thank you so much for the enthusiasm and insight as well! It's always such a pleasure to be able to notify someone of a new chapter.
(It also blows up my notes lol)
As for your ask, while I must admit I have yet to give much thought to the Twelvians' reaction to Amalia (since, despite its interconnected nature, technically speaking, each chapter is a one-shot instead of an actual chapter aiming to build a whole, collective narrative), there are definitely people who're more accepting of her, and people who're more wary of her presence.
After all, it's a bit like you said. As far as we know, the gods' intentions are simply to make sure the Eliatropes don't feel the need to attack their followers, while said followers are supposed to relax and read Amalia's existence as a sign that there's nothing to fear.
Because if the gods are chill enough with entrusting one of their own to these new visitors, then surely that means everything's okay, right?
But still, the whole thing is also super weird. I mean, the gods have gone centuries, maybe even millennia, without creating a new Divine Doll and when they finally do is to hand her over to the Eliatropes? I dunno, it's all kinda sus.
Of course, there's also the Eliatropes' point of view on the whole thing.
In their case, their reasons for being wary are more of a "What are you up to?" kind of thing. After all, they've been on the World of Twelve for months, their presence has clearly caused a lot of commotion among the gods' followers, and yet the gods spent months completely radio silent until, one day, without warning, completely out of the blue, they send a Divine Doll to their doorstep as a bride to their king????
It all reeks of the gods having ulterior motives behind their "generosity".
The only question is, is Amalia aware of said ulterior motives? Or is she just a pawn to an overly-complicated, high-stakes game of chess?
While I mostly want to focus on the fluffy aspects and Yumalia's development, it's also true Wakfu's own nature as a show and all the lore surrounding it also call for quite a bit of drama. So I'll have to see how I navigate it all and what decisions I want to take when writing the narrative.
Thank you so much for this mini-analysis! Hope you enjoy chapter 2!!
#wakfu#wakfu analysis#wakfu fanfiction#my fanfiction#the doll and the dragon#divine doll! au#sadida doll! au#eliatropes#council of six#world of twelve#twelvians#the twelve gods#amalia sheran sharm#yugo the eliatrope#yumalia#ask&answer
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LONG RANT: You can't fix Yandere Simulator. Let it die
Yeah there's no beating around the bush here. Everyone know what happened. Alex is a groomer. If this is your first time hearing about this, look Yandere Dev up for two minutes and you'll be up to date.
And yaddada I am feeling a lot of emotions, mostly anger and a shred of disappointment watching the thinnest sliver of hope I had for this game die. I'm guessing about 20k of you feel something similar, that or you're enjoying watching the shitshow unravel.
I guess if you've been on this subreddit, or twitter, or tumblr, you probably know what my title is referring to. For almost ten years now, Yandere Dev would get into a controversy and the fucked up aspects of his game are exposed and fanartists and writers and devs take it as an opportunity to 'fix' Yandere simulator. The most notable example I can think of is Love Letter from 2020 I think. It's a good idea in theory, literally separating the art from the artist by recreating his concept without the problematic stuff. There was a time when I agreed with this idea and even wanted to do something similar on my own.
But now with Alex's practically confirmed abuse, this concept I guess is leaving a bitter taste in my mouth, It has for a long time, but now I think It's time to address the concept of 'fixing' Yandere Simulator.
For starters, I believe it has gotten to the point where you can't separate the art from the artist with Yandere Simulator. Not after this. And I don't wanna get into an hour long discussion about how that works, but Yandere Simulator is different because the source material was never good in the first place. It was something people were *following in hopes of getting good*. So when fixing the game, the question isn't really what you should repair, (assuming you are up to date on Yandere Dev's controversies) but what you should even bother keeping. It's like trying to redesign a building accidentally built to make sure tall people can't get in. Yeah you can redesign the doors and the rooms, but when does it get to the point where you have to throw out the building and start from scratch. That's the problem with Yandere Simulator. It's not one or two flaws. It's basically the entire concept. It's this murder borderline porn game centered around Yandere Dev's barely disguised fetishes about an inaccurately portrayed underaged person with some mental illness killing other schoolchildren (and pedos, accidentally based Ayano???) for a mediocre audience self-insert where you have to take panty shots to get information and all the people your killing are offbrand anime characters and everyone's name is bad Japanese and, well you're in this subreddit, you know all the problems with Yandere Simulator. Putting heart clips in Ayano's hair or making Taro hot or Amai chubby or give Osana freckles and make the teachers minors or making any of the character different races blah blah blah, that doesn't actually change anything systemically wrong with the game, story, and concept. It's putting frosting on a moldy boot
(btw, I'm not actually against the Yandere Archetype. You can write problematic stuff so long as you give it respect. But this is part of a bigger issue.)
So You could remove all of that, but at what point are you just, making other piece of Yandere Simulator that has loose inspirational ties. Not that there is anything wrong with that--It's actually a good idea--but you can't reasonably say that you've 'fixed' Yandere Simulator after throwing out 70% of it. Yes, it may be true, but It's not good writing criticism when you're erasing the core of what make Yandere Simulator Yandere Simulator. Yandere Simulator is an anime fetish amalgamation made up of what Alex likes taking place in a pseudo-dating sim world gone wrong where sexy murder stuff happens. Once you start to remove that, you're removing its (admittedly cringe) soul. Not to mention, comparing some of the content in the game to his abuse, it gives the game itself a bitter taste. Is this something that you really want to reform? Is this something that *should* be reformed?
It's always "When will someone finally recreate Yandere Simulator" and not "Why should anyone recreate Yandere Simulator."
Additionally, whether you like it or not, when you keep posting fanart and rewrites and advertising your fangame as 'inspired' by Yandere Dev. You are giving him attention and free advertising. Even if you put 'Yandere Dev fans DNI' in your bio. I promise that all this time you are trying to spend 'fixing' this horrible game made by an abuser, you could be spending so much of that time making fanart for actual indie projects who deserve your attention who could use that exposure to grow or maintain a community.
And getting to the elephant in the room when it comes to people 'fixing' Yandere Simulator. It's no secret that Yandere simulator fangames fail. Paper Will made a good video on this but oh boy do they fail hard. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRLCsWhiNTc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRLCsWhiNTc). But I don't think It's a curse problem--even though that theory is funny. Talking about why they fail outside a game perspective (young inexperience devs, reliant on volunteers, biting off more than they can chew, unrealistic expectations, drama etc.) Devoting years of your life to something you hate isn't sustainable. And most of these games DON'T last years, they last months. Because spite is a spice, it's awesome, hot, everyone loves it. But you can't serve a meal with spice alone. Making as something as difficult as a game out of spite is an absolute loaded task that requires the stamina of a God to achieve. And if you're thinking about doing this as an after school hobby. You're gonna get burned out fast. I don't have any data on this, but even though I don't do coding. Creating a project out of hate is so exhausting, because It just doesn't work as that good of a motivator down the line. Just investing all this time, resources and energy into constant hate, and to prove what? That you're better than possibly one of the worst indie game devs of the century? Who do you need to prove it to?
The heart of all art is love, love for something. Even satire and art made to criticize has love for something, even if it's just itself and the joke It's trying to tell or for the message It's trying to send. And spite isn't the worst motivator as long as it's not the *only* motivator. And that's really what these "Fan" (word used incredibly loosely) games fail at their most basic mechanics. It's not actually made for love for the source material, but to one up it and make a point, and the entire concept collapses in on itself.
And to finally addess why I made this post. Responding to Alex's grooming by posting about how you can 'fix' the story of his game and redesigning/claiming characters and stuff is downright insulting and inappropriate. Not every Yandere Simulator fixer does this so I'm not trying to lump everyone together. There was a time when Yandere Dev would do something embarrassing or whatever and posting about how his ideas could be fixed was insightful, but as a response to this situation, It's just bad. People are hurt, and making this about you and how you can redeisgn or rework the game is clout chasey and tone death. Please don't use grooming to one-up Yandere Dev for whatever reason. Nobody wants that. Not the victims, not the former staff and volunteers. Nobody. Just keep it to yourself.
I honestly am just tired. I hope anything I just said is even somewhat comprehensible. But if you as someone who thinks they can fix yandere simulator takes away anything from this, It's to just make your own original stuff. Enough with the fangames and redesigns towards a person who does not deserve even a spec of your effort. Stop giving this guy more publicity and trying to revive this dead horse that is Yandere Simulator. If you still like aspects of the game I beg you to just make your own yandere themed piece of media, webcomic, book, game whatever separate from yandere simulator. Post your ORIGINAL characters that are yours and not reskinned versions of whatever Alex made. And let's just let this goddamn game from by a groomer die. Don't try to fix it, don't touch it. Just give it the sad death it deserves.
Please.
Fuck.
#yandere simulator#yansim#yandere dev#alex mahan#Yandere simulator drama#Yandere dev grooming#grooming
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Dom!Michael Masterlist
a different kinda love (ao3) - citiesbelow michael/calum, ot4 E, 6k
Summary: Calum and Michael decide to spend an evening at home having kinky sex and then it ends up more emotionally intense than planned, but they cuddle and talk it out and everyone's happy in the end.
Beautiful Night (ao3) - Grace_Williams michael/ashton M, 1k
Summary: Michael Clifford actually said “is this your hole? It’s beautiful” on a twitch stream in August 2022 and this is what I wrote because of it.
Calum Gets His Way (ao3) - Jay_isnotokay ot4 M, 5k
Summary: But Calum hadn't said anything or told anyone about the dirty thoughts plagued his every waking hour.
So he guessed he was just gonna have to swallow his pride and just say it.
Which was a lot easier said than done.
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or Calum finally asks for what he wants, and the boys are happy to fulfill his wishes
Dicks, Desks, & Lace Panties (ao3) - screamssetonfire michael/luke E, 2k
Summary: assistant!Luke likes to wear lace panties and show them off to his boss, ceo!Michael.
Ease (ao3) - Grace_Williams calum/ashton, michael/luke G, 138k
Summary: In a world where everyone was a dominant or a submissive and everyone had an assigned soulmate, Ashton was remarkably unsure of himself. Nothing is going as he planned and his soulmate, Calum, is, to put it simply, not who he expected.
Michael is Calum’s best friend and an all round terrible example when it comes to navigating relationships.
Calum’s assistant Maggie, along with her soulmate Carla, seem to be the only ones who do understand how a relationship is supposed to work.
Are they the only people can put those around them at ease?
Everything That’s Come and Gone (ao3) - MCRmyGeneral ot4 E, 6k
Summary: Mostly he just sat and stewed on the fact that apparently he’d been fucking as least Ashton, if not all his boyfriends, for months while they laughed behind his back.
Or, Ashton says the wrong thing and it makes Luke think too much.
filthy animal (ao3) - lucasshem michael/ashton E, 2k
Summary: ashton and michael fuck the living shit out of each other.
Green Light (ao3) - SpencerKnight ot4 E, 181k
Summary: Class is an age old concept–almost as old as the concept of human slavery, and in a world where buying humans is a standard behavior by those who can afford it, Luke’s only hope as a member of the lower class is that he falls into the hands of a decent buyer–the hands of Ashton Irwin and his partners. Luke knows he has one chance to please his buyers or he risks getting put back on the market, but he’s thrown for a loop when Ashton admits that Luke is the one that gets to call the shots. In an attempt to find security with the trio, Luke braces himself and gives them the green light to do whatever they want with him.
He had no idea they would refuse.
how far will you go? (I just wanna feel you cum) (ao3) - orphan_account ot4 E, 7k
Summary: michael being purposely obstinate and getting what’s coming for him: ot4 edition
i can be good (make you proud) (ao3) - FINEHEMMINGS ot4 M, 3k
Summary: luke is ashton’s submissive who only wanted to make his dom proud, but the plan completely fails.
I’d like to see you have your way (ao3) - iambic_pulse, phanjessmagoria ot4 E, 20k
Summary: Ashton asks Luke to take control of him one night, just for a little change of pace. It doesn’t go as well as he hopes.
I Don't Need It To Be Easy, I Need It To Be Worth It (ao3) - orphan_account michael/calum, luke/ashton M, 18k
Summary: *The blond one chuckles without humour, “Alright, you wanna play dumb, fine. But don’t go anywhere near my mum again, got it?”
Now, Calum is starting to get angry too, “Who the fuck do you think you are? I'll hang out with who I want, I’m not gonna let a wanna be Billie Joe Armstrong dictate my life.”
Michael is smirking now, “Cute insult,” he says mockingly. “I wonder how clever you have to be to come up with this, what a sass genius.”
“Fuck you.”
“You’re just proving my point,” says the blond one.*
After making the resolution of becoming more athletic, Calum decides to take up yoga class. There, he meets Karen, a rich white L.A yoga mum, who's also a very happy and sweet lady who keeps invating him to the most exclusively rich people events.
One day, he meets her son: Michael. This guy couldn't be more different from his mum; he wears dark clothes, dark make-up, and he's rude.
Another issue: Michael seems to hate Calum, and wants him to stay away from Karen, and Calum isn't sure why...
I love the way you scream my name (ao3) - mlstyles257 ot4 N/R, 5k
Summary: The boys had purchased the Sybian months ago. But their lives were so hectic, that they haven’t gotten around to using it yet. First, they were working on their new album, then they were on the road on tour, before finally, after months of the toy collecting dust in their closet, they had free time. Michael was the one to stumble across the toy while…doing some research. He immediately sent the link to Ashton and Calum with a simple caption of ‘for Luke’. Safe to say, they bought it pretty quickly.
Luke is a little anxious to try out the new toy, but with a little reassurance from his boyfriends and a demonstration from Calum, he agrees to give it a go.
say you want me and dont be nice (send those shivers running down my spine) (ao3) - orphan_account michael/calum N/R, 5k
Summary: :+: Calum and Michael are in gangs, and when Calum gets slightly turned on by the gun in Michael's hands, things get dirty :+:
tell me what your worst fantasies are (i bet they look a lot like mine) (ao3) - orphan_account ot4 N/R, 8k
Summary: :+: or where Luke has twisted fantasies and the boys have twisted minds:+:
The stars shine in your eyes (ao3) - buddieshipper420 ot4 N/R, 2k
Summary: Calum finds Ashton floating dangerously close towards subspace, and they all take care of their sub.
That's it, that's the fic.
Wanted You All Along (ao3) - MCRmyGeneral ot4 E, 5k
Summary: For as long as he could remember, Luke had an annoying habit of putting things in his mouth.
Or, Luke deals with his oral fixation, and also with the issue of him being in love with all three of his bandmates. Ironically, the two issues overlap in the most coincidental way.
we’re speaking in bodies (ao3) - thedeathofhyacinth ot4 E, 3k
Summary: Calum loves his Doms and his Doms love him.
What’s the matter baby? (ao3) - ExplicitStark luke/ashton, ot4 E, 4k
Summary: “You’d like that wouldn’t you , whore. Your so fucking pathetic. I’m sure you’d love Calum and Michael to watch you ruin yourself because of me fucking your tight ass. But we can’t can we? Cant have them catching us. So if I were you, I’d pay special attention to those slutty noises your making”
Yes Daddy (ao3) - cinnamonhood ot4 M, 2k
Summary: Luke and Calum are caught breaking the rules and are punished by their daddies.
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14 and 32 for the writer asks?
Thanks for the ask!! ❤️
14. What’s the biggest change in your taste between when you started in fandom and today?
I used to read explicit one shots, PWP, more readily. You know those stories where it's like marathon sex scenes and not much context or plot?
Lately I've found that I don't enjoy those as much. I want more context and more build up with a relationship. I want a story with my smut lmao. Give me character development alongside the unresolved sexual tension.
I tend to go for stories in the 20-80k word range as opposed to just one shots. I still read one shots ofc if the summary or tags pull me in, or if there's not many fics for a particular pairing, but I want a story I can sink my teeth into. Of course, I've read stories in the 5-20k word range that do tell a great story.
I just think it's more enjoyable for a slow burn to build to something. I think a lot of people fear what to do with a story once the will they/won't they is gone. I've seen this often in TV shows (and some movies) too so it's not just fic that's at fault.
I've read a lot of works where the story just ends suddenly after the characters get together/have sex, and I'm like okay that's great, but what about what comes after? I want to know about how the characters continue to develop within the context of the relationship. Does the relationship stay strong? Does it have troubles? How do the characters behave after the climax of the story has passed? And I don't just mean fluff for the sake of fluff. I mean giving the characters a proper ending that feels meaningful/proportional to the trauma they've gone through is something I want to read (and write myself).
So long story short, I prefer a more well-rounded story.
32. Who’s the one character who shines without you even trying?
Alan Wake, easily. He's a disaster. I relate to him as I'm sure most creative folks who play the games do. I enjoy writing Alan and analyzing every facet of his character. I've been told I write his perspective well, so I take that in stride. I just hope to keep writing him strong 😊
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STMPD Recommends Black Lagoon Fanfiction: Girlycards' A Chance Encounter
So this is going to be something a smidge different than my usual reviews. The fic's under 20k words, and I decided to poke at it after girlycards reblogged my last review joking that she couldn't wait to see what I said about her fic.
I was a little reluctant to do so, not gonna lie. She writes short snippets of Balalaika and Revy being cute-ish with one another, at least as cute as those characters can be with one another being who they are; I write over-the-top explode-y cyberpunk adventures. But I decided to take it as a challenge and give one fic she poked my way a go. A Chance Encounter was that fic.
And, dear reader, it's really good! So let's talk about Balalaika and Revy and why this fic works.
The setup is right there: Lost and free from prison in NYC, Revy tries to mug Balalaika, not knowing who she is. It doesn't go well, of course - this is fucking Balalaika we're talking about - but Balalaika allows her to live, allows her to follow her to her hotel room, and in time to Roanapur. And in time, Balalaika starts to care for Revy. Simple as that. I actually don't want to spoil too much.
In that regard, it's something of an origin story, even retelling the time when Chang shot Balalaika a few times and almost sparked an intersyndicate war. Rock's nowhere to be found, and who cares? This is about two lost hyperviolent women with attachment issues figuring out how to start to attach to each other.
And it works! As Goethe would say, it succeeds in what it sets out to do and it was worth doing. It's funny, too, because BalaRevy has always felt like it would be fundamentally a toxic relationship to me, and the one fic I've tried to read where that relationship is explored - It Will Come Back - never disabused me of that notion. Like, Balalaika is Balalaika. Domination and control is her drug of choice, and someone without a private army at her back, like Revy - what can she do but struggle in the Russian's grip? I'm still hashing out the details of her romance with Celia in Bubblegum Black, but her attachment to her rusalka... well, you've seen how I write it, dear reader. I hope.
So I think what works here is that as much as Balalaika starts keeping Revy by her side initially out of pity, she also sees the woman she once was, the criminal she is now, in a warped way in Two Hands. Oh, Balalaika is still pretty cold even right up until the end of the fic, but one feels like she's getting somewhere. Compare that to It Will Come Back, which I struggled a lot more with because it felt like Balalaika never showed that key moment of intimacy and it was more one-sided pining on Revy's part (couple that with the fact that the author clearly didn't like Rock that much and I really wasn't feeling the fic because, in case you can't tell dear reader, I like playing around with Rock as a character). That mutuality was what made the fic - and the ship - feel possible for me. As such, I encourage you to read it! I think you'll like it.
Now what should I review next, hmm... Last thing I want to do is review YT2032 anytime soon, heh...
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Hold up first of all papi, I just wanted to hear it pronounced the correct way in general. I in no way tricked you. But boy am I glad you did.
Second of all, who voted 97% for a strike? I know nothing about the industry, so the sga-thingy I don’t understand
jlkshgkjdhfgkjsdhgkjsdhlfgkjsfdg I HAVE THE GROSSEST VOICE ON THE PLANET "boy am i glad i did" did what?! make your ears suffer??? lol
on-camera talent used to have two unions. sag and aftra. a few years ago they united to form one single union called...wait for it...sag-aftra lol. if im not mistaken they're the biggest union in the industry now with around 160,000 members. for comparison the wga (writer's union) are only 10k and dga (directors/other positions sort of related to directing) are only 20k. sag puts everyone else to shame. they represent the obvious actors but also announcers, voice over talent, broadcast journalists, dancers, DJs, news writers, news editors, program hosts, puppeteers, recording artists, singers, stunt performers, and other media typically on camera talent.
if sag strikes EVERYTHING comes to a halt. and for the past few years they've been getting fucked just as hard. y'all have this notion that because someone is on a show they're rich and you believe these random websites that know nothing about people's lives talking about their "net worth" based on literal pure speculation. throughout the strike A LOT of dirt has been coming out because people are talking now that they're pissed and don't give a fuck. for example today the union decided it was the day everyone took a turn exposing/shitting on apple because they're one of the worst exploiters in the industry. they didnt say what show, but a writer revealed that the principal talent on their show got paid $300/day for production. THREE HUNDRED BUCKS A DAY! episodes typically shot in 7-8 days on average. do the math. actors were making 2k per episode lol. and then you believe when some random website tells you that same actor is worth like ten million dollars.
so anyway...the actors have been fired up for A LOT of reasons. not just pay. i wont get into it. you can find all the ways they're getting abused too. but they just voted 98% to authorize a strike. they start negotiating on the 7th. their contract expires on the 30th. now that they have the strike authorization vote in hand if the studios dont give them a deal that the negotiating committee likes and the membership then ratifies then the entire indstry shuts down come july 1st. you cant do shit without writers AND actors. if they strike we all get a better deal but just the fact that they got this insane number when they're not a strike prone union is surely putting the fear of god into the studios tonight and they're going to come into negotiation with a different tone. for suuuuure. i hope they join us in a strike tho. i want to see these assholes suffer.
#i doubt they'll strike i think the studios will do everything they can to avoid the actors striking because then they're truly fucked#but i sure fucking hope they give us at least a week or two of strike i want to see the ceos squirm truly#rants#anonymous#answers#wga strike
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this past monday I took smores to the vet to check his condition of chewing on his back legs and on his butt/ back area.
the vet gave him and allergy shot which fixed him and mentioned for long term care to have moisturizing wash baths and benadryls
vet also took his blood to test his liver values, bc in may 2023 when he went to a diff vet for stomach issues and they tested his blood and saw his liver values were off and they gave him liver vitamins to help support his liver which he has not been taking bc theyre chewables but he has not been taking them bc he does not like them
on wednesday his blood work came back and his liver values are still bad and also his kidneys are showing b.u.n? which i need to give the vet a pee sample
so now vet said to do an ultrasound for smores which will cover his liver and kidneys and if necessary will do a biospy after.
and I'm in disbelief because my baby dog is now sick and idk what is going to happen and not sure how much longer he will be with me
this mid week i was so depressed and stressed out bc of costs
the ultrasound i called about to 2 vet specialists our vet recommended and they have both quoted about $745-$920. which means to get an xray alone is already 1,000 dollars.
I can pay 1 ,000 dollars but what is next? how much will treatment be? i googled liver disease in dogs and one person said they paid 14,000$ just to get a diagnosis. I don't have 14,000 now, nor will I ever have it all at once.
I feel so helpless that I can not do more for my baby, and i dont know what to do, am I just suppose to not get him medical care??
I read posts from the rainbow bridge and people who say things like they wish they could have done more for him/her. i now know what that really means.
I thought about how I only have 4,000 and i just let my mom borrow it because shes fucking irresponsible and needs to pay back her debt. and she wont be paying me back for a while but I didnt think i would need that money rn and how wrong i was.
then my fucking big credit card is maxed out due to my mom's usage also. it would have 5,000 which i could have really used for the ultrasound.
and so i was sitting there flipping through my accounts and looking at my balances like a few thousand dollars was going to magically pop up in them and save me and my dog
i looked at my digit savings and even if i cash over absolutely everything I will have CLOSE to 4,000. not even 4,000 :(
then my paypal credit which i asked for a credit line increase and they gave me 2,000 but it said i do not get an actual card for it and its mainly for online purchases so that doesnt help me at all.
so finally i applied for care credit and luckily was approved for 5,000.
also to note i just bought my tesla and the payments are so high and insurance is through the roof and i will turn over this car if i need to to free up money to set aside for smores treatment so we'll see if it comes down to that. it's my dream car but i can always buy another one later and my baby dog needs me right now
so hopefully care credit is enough for everything and i really hope a biopsy will not be 14,000. if things can stay below 8,000 for everything than that is something that i can reach but if they start quoting me 20k or so I'm afraid i will have to make some tough decisions and start considering end of life services for smores.
I have been thinking about it and if it comes down to me absolutely not being able to afford paying for smores services then i will have to start having a conversation with his vet on what i can do to make sure he is comfortable for the rest of his time :(
this week has been me taking so many pics, spending so much time, making sure he feels loved and looking at him like i will never see him again. i keep thinking of how i dont want to think of what it will be like without him, im not sure i will be able to breathe. he is my soul dog and i love him with all of my heart
I called around to see if i could find a better deal on an ultrasound but it looks like i can't. i also have an option of 2 places and right now I have booked with the "better place " but its 3 weeks out and being that long out also stresses me out and idk
I been putting his liver supplements in his water so he can actually take some of it. I really wish I had been addressing this sooner.
with the death of my aunt who i love so much, stephen who was such a good friend and poor daniel. I just want to try to stay positive bc i jsut dont know what to do or think anymore.
the sudden deaths of my loved ones in such a little time has been so hard on me, I remember after finding out about each one my mind goes to a dark place and my body kind of falls apart for a time and it just feels like it gets weaker with each one. I have questioned my own health and then i get scared of what if
anyways so thats whats going on w smores so far
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heyy, how are you??? I don't know of you're still answering the fanfiction writing asks but there's a few I would like to ask: #2, 18, 20, 21 and 24, if you can and want to answer.
Also I would d*e to see a print of your notes app just because I'm that curious LOL. Love your fics and I'm so happy that you decided to write for kacy ❤️
I'm freezing my ass off on day 2 without heat, but otherwise I'm fucking fantastic. Thanks for asking!
2. Where do you get your fic ideas?
Uhhhhhhhhhhh???? I guess my sorta twisted sense of humor and the fact that my mind is always in the gutter? I think all the smut is attributable to my 13 months of pandemic celibacy. I never had to think too much about sex before that cause I had a pretty active social life. Then the longer my isolation period lasted, the longer I was forced to spend inside my head with my memories and idk it's hard to explain and will quickly get into TMI territory, but I don't think I could be as descriptive or imaginative if I hadn't spent so much time alone.
18. Do you enjoy research? Which fic of yours required the most research?
It depends. I have a mind that needs to verify information and find sources and know everything and that can get exhausting when it leads to me researching stuff for a fic that I don't really need to research. So I'd say I don't enjoy when that happens. But big aspects of my fics where accuracy is important, I do enjoy the research for that.
So far Throw Pillows required the most research. Law School Au is quickly going to blow that away. I've already got footnotes in my draft cause I'll be including cases. So... 🤓😂
20. Do you prefer writing AUs or canon fics?
Canon-ish is probably my favorite. I do like playing within the canon sandbox, but then taking obvious liberties. So my canon smut series is something I'm really enjoying.
21. Do you prefer writing chaptered fics or one-shots?
One-shots. And I'm including the handful of 2 chapter fics in those cause I only split those to give y'all something early and because people have said they prefer chapter breaks to getting 20k on a page. But I like those because I can write them in 1-2 weeks and be done with them.
Throw Pillows was mentally taxing for a few reasons. I had some weird stuff happening in my ask box with it. I guess that's what happens when you tackle a lengthy WIP. It was almost enough to dissuade me from ever writing something that long again. But then they had to make Kate an attorney and now I will probably suffer some more of the mentally taxing bs as I slowly roll that fic out.
24. How do you choose whose POV to write in?
It all comes down to the purpose of the fic and whose viewpoint/inner dialogue will serve that purpose best. In my canon smut, I've been trying to balance POVs. But I often default to Kate because Lucy is more of mystery canon wise and I'm worried about making assumptions about her past that could get Jossed in the future. So in the 2x06 fic when I wanted to write her as being super upset about something, I chose Kate because then I didn't have to figure out what she was so damn upset about.
And then in 'What's His Name?' it had to be in Lucy's POV because I needed to make it clear that she was worried about Kate and going along with the plan because she loves Kate. It would have been difficult to get across her genuine acceptance of the scheme had I gone with Kate and written something that would have been 10000% more cracky cause Kate's mind throughout it would have been a non-stop rambling anxious monologue.
Speaking of rambling, I shall shut up now and get back to 2x07 smut.
P.S. my notes app is my brain. If anyone ever got into that I'd die.
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Fic questions! I wasn't actually tagged in this but idc here goes
1) how many works do you have on AO3?
310
2) what’s your total AO3 word count?
524265
3) how many fandoms have you written for and what are they?
~39 according to AO3 (but there's definitely some old fic that are exclusively on fanfiction.net or possibly lj? If you count things that exist within the same universe as only one fandom (e.g. MCU instead of Captain Marvel or Thor) that cuts it down to like 28, but I'm still not going to list all of them. Top five: Supernatual, Stargate Atlantis, MCU (but its mostly The Falcon and the Winter Soldier), Teen Wolf, and Buffy the Vampire Slayer
4) what are your top five fics by kudos?
Pillow Talk (SamBucky) Falling Backwards (SamBucky) The Static From Your Arms (It's a Catalyst) (Sterek) Fall Back Together (SamBucky) You Can Feel It On The Way Home (SamBucky)
I'm very intrigued by the fact that 7 of my top 10 by kudos are tfatws. I'm here for it, just surprised bc I've written a lot of fics over the years, in a lot of big fandoms, and somehow the most popular ones were all written in the last 5 months
5) do you respond to comments? why or why not?
I didn't used to because I was never really sure how? Now I try to, but the social awkwardness still comes through and idk what to say a lot of the time.
6) what’s the fic you’ve written with the angstiest ending?
I really don't do things without a happy (or at least hopeful ending). I know I did when I was younger, but I've had my ao3 account for over 10 years I can't be expected to remember all of that. Probably the angstiest is recent history was a post-Despair Destiel fic, but again, fairly hopeful endings
7) do you write crossovers? if so what is the craziest one you’ve written?
Occasionally, yeah, or I just leave hints from one fandom in other fics - implied past Sam/Riley in the backstory of my Autistic!John McShep fic, for instance. The 'craziest' true crossover is probably the universe I created with Supernatural/Doctor Who/Vampire Diaries (not where you thought that was going, was it?) that I was really into for a couple months?
8) have you ever received hate on a fic?
Once that I can remember, it was a very strong 'critique' of a situation that they felt was wildly inaccurate. I was really bothered by it at the time, but mostly I think they just misunderstood the fic and also its fanfic i don't care. if it makes your day to write mean things on something a fan did for funzies: go off.
9) do you write smut? if so what kind?
very, very rarely. and idk, the soft kind?
10) have you ever had a fic stolen?
not that I'm aware of
11) have you ever had a fic translated?
yes! Not a ton, but a handful have been translated, and one or two have been podfic'd
12) have you ever co-written a fic before?
Maybe waaaay back in the day. Its really not something that pleases me? Maybe I should give it another shot some day, but mostly I have trouble working with other writing styles
13) what’s your all-time favourite ship?
I don't even know how to answer this. I will probably always have a little corner of my soul/heart/head/whatever for Destiel and McShep (and maybe Sterek?) But SamBucky is my #1 right now and I don't see that changing anytime soon, if ever.
14) what’s a WIP that you want to finish but don’t think you ever will?
Atlas Falls (Destiel). I have most of the major story planned out, and while I really love it, I just don't see it happening?
15) what are your writing strengths?
Character voice, or so I'm told.
16) what are your writing weaknesses?
Long arcs. My longest successful fic was over 20k, but that was unusual for me. My range is typically 1k-10k, anything over that and I either get bored, or I lose sight of the characters.
17) what are your thoughts on writing dialogue in other languages in a fic?
I don't do it often, but if it's suited, sure. Given that I don't fluently speak anything useful, I'd probably avoid it in fear of terrible google translate shenanigcans
18) what was the first fandom you wrote for?
Harry Potter? That's the first I remember, anyway. First recorded on ao3 was Supernatural, first on fanfiction.net was x-men, but I'm pretty sure I was writing on the harry potter forums before any of that
19) what’s your favourite fic you’ve written?
Current: Until the End (Of Time) (SamBucky) All time: Survival [of the Foolish] (McShep)
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For the ask game:
Numbers 22,30,33, and 37
Thanks for the ask!
22. Do take fic requests? If so, for what characters and why?
I do! So far it's only been within some kind of list, like BTHB or the touch prompts (see my pinned post). I guess people could send me random ideas if they wanted to! The caveat with fic requests, though, is that they are always and only suggestions, never mandates. If it doesn't spark for me,* I'm not going to fill the prompt. I also don't fill prompts in the same order I get them, or on any particular timeline at all. I would like to assume people already know all that, but for my own sanity, I like to make it super clear up front! *Reasons something may not spark include but are not limited to: I've already written something similar and don't have any new ideas; I think that's a great idea but I don't have the expertise and/or life experience to to it well; I don't think the characters would plausibly do the thing(s)/be in the situation that the prompter requested; it's a squick for me; I just don't have enough time; no particular reason, it just didn't.
30. Post a snippet from your current WIP without context - no more than 300 words.
finding a section without spoilers is hard! some redacting was required.
"I'm okay," he says automatically. His voice is a fucking wreck. "You are a very committed liar," she says, glancing over her phone as she moves to somewhere more private. "Why are you on the floor?" "Got dizzy," he whispers, which he realizes isn't very reassuring. Taylor's shaking her head. [...] "I'll be fine," he says, because he's the one who touched off the hurricane, and Eddie gets to take as much time as he needs to start to figure things out. "You can't just stay on the floor," she says, and he can hear someone saying her name, and then she sighs and lets a makeup person touch up her face, just their hand and a makeup brush in frame. "Call Eddie," she says. "God, I'm sorry, I have to go—" This rush of movement on the screen, like maybe a PA is pulling the phone out of her hands and pushing her to her mark, and then the beep of the disconnection and he's alone again. He's exhausted. Just so fucking tired. Taylor doesn't know what she's talking about when she says he can't stay on the floor. The floor is a perfectly fine place to be. Cold, sure. Hard, yes. But unmoving, and more importantly, right there. He pulls the hood of his sweatshirt up and pillows his arm under his head and closes his eyes. Just for a little while.
33. What do you like writing better: one shots or multi-chapter stuff?
I like both! I like the immediacy of posting a one-shot and then it is out there in the world fully formed, and I like going more in depth with a long fic. I also like writing works like Hazards where each chapter could be a one-shot, but when you put them together you get a really nice through-line as the characters' relationships change.
37. Give an update on your current WIP - if you don’t have one, give a sneak peek to a title or idea that you have and would like to write.
My big bang draft is JUST shy of 20k. (Current word count: 19,382). I'm in the so-close-but-so-far phase: If I follow my current plan, I only have four more scenes to write.... but any of those scenes could end up being longer than expected. Things seem to be a little bit in limbo with the big bang timeline, so I'm just trying to finish my draft before my summer ends and then if things I have no control over come together and it ends up with art, that would be amazing, and if not, then I will be posting a 20k+ fic that would not have existed without the original challenge, so it's all good either way.
(come ask me things!)
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when will you continue And July? just curious:)
omg anon, first of all, i'm so sorry for making you wait so long!!!
i promise it's in the works, but it's just not my top priority right now (as i still have schoolwork and all) :c
i don't really have a definite time i can give you to be honest, but i want to ask if it's okay if i still did it by parts or publish a whole 15 to 20k-ish wc one shot (i was hoping it to be a lot longer but i really don't know if i can do that ;-;)? because i feel like if i post it all in one go, i can say it will be up in like late January or February without doubt (and fully proofread as well!),,, if i repost it by parts (for the plot, a part would mean one month, so 8-9 updates in total), you'd be getting irregular updates every other week at best.
i really love the concept of and july and i was just a bit disappointed how i managed to diverge from my own drafted plot :/ hopefully during winter break i'll be able to write more for that
thank you so much for reading! 🐸💖
#i guess i'll finish and july first before any new fics ;-;#tbh i feel u anon things were starting to get spicy after february sigh#sinagot na~
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I'm going to post this because maybe someone will hear this over words unspoken, my name is Billy Strange and I still wake up each morning picking up the next piece, I've almost taken my life more then I can count on both hands, from a high school sweet heart marriage of 9 years turned bloody and a custody battle that went from healthy to sadistic over a span of 3 years and 20k, and it was the words from a man I barely knew for no more then 6 months, that has saved me
I see and talk to so many fathers who tell me their story and I so badly want to tell them just to listen to what I'm telling you, I can get you out of this if you just let me a stranger walk with you through it... It never works out that easy but I don't give up and I hope you all read these words and share them to those who may hear it better from the words written by their brother in arms.. any way
I look back for those 2 years I was there and remember pushing anyone close to me as far away as possible so that they didn't have to feel the initial pain or try to stop me, all because I felt like I let them all down...
The only people I kept around me were strangers because I wanted to know if they seen me as a failure not even knowing me.... It was because of that, and them being completely honest about why it was only me that maybe it wasn't meant to be,
(A Satanist told me this and I'll never forget it, it was his words that allowed me to get this far) he is not one for recognition so I won't label him.
"did you ever think that your trying so hard to hold up a world that has fallen all around you...
Maybe you are on the right path and you are only focusing on the things that have already broken, and don't realize that all you have to do is look down at each piece, see it and learn why it was so important to you and then glue it to that small piece you are still holding above you, then go to the next and keep going until each piece has shown you just how strong it actually made you to make it to someone who seen your strength, and can see you just forgot what gave you that strength.
It will hurt, it will make you hate the way you handled certain things, it will cause you to try to give up,
but because you made it a task to see each piece, and put it all back up, you will never allow yourself to give up, or find a rope, until you complete your task, because thats the person you are...
But you have to understand that it may have taken you 5 years to build that first world you now see broken below you, it will take far longer to rebuild it stronger, because you will also rebuild yourself with each piece, and you have to remember to let each piece's glue dry before placing the other or else you will watch it become to stressful and not understand why you think you are doing the right thing but it keeps falling....
Learn each piece then let it hurt, while you hold it in place to dry, let it consume your mind and play it over and over like a movie each piece until it dries, then heal, smile before you look back down for that next piece, and don't ever be scared to place even those bad things you did when not everyone was watching back into your rebuild, because without each piece it will be to weak and fall apart down the road when everything seemed good.
Basically you have to accept that you are on a dark road but to learn to see in the dark it will allow you to navigate later in life when you see a person on that same road and they ask for help.. Don't ever forget how you felt because they may have absolutely no one and will you want to be the one who pretends like you didn't see it. Anyway that being said stop mopping and let's go handle business "
The next section is a completely separate chapter from above but I feel maybe can help...
I want to add to this 4 years from that being told to me and experiencing it in real life, that sometimes you will still find yourself in a sort of limbo period I've managed to pin mine down to about every 8 months, if for some reason I didn't accomplish a goal I set prior and it feels like no matter what I do or try I can't for some reason figure it out, those are the moments you need to find a person you trust your life with because those will be the moments you will try anything to get you out of that mentality because we want to feel that we are moving forward no matter the speed, but to feel stuck and not being able to see a way out or that lost piece that you know is there it's just probably hidden under some of your other pieces..we feel like Maybe just for a moment let whatever is causing you to panic, whether it's rent, a car that is broke and no money and work tomorrow, or you've been jobless for 3 months now and even with all the resumes submitted nothing is available and winter is a cold time to be homeless with no job, or maybe you still haven't got a place to stay so that you can have your children stay with you finally, whatever it is the worst thing that can happen is what you silently keep fighting to not take over,
I just want this fight to stop for one night, I just want all this stress to burry itself tonight so I can try to breathe... What that really means is I'm going to go back to those bad habits I had because it always quieted those fights in my head and if I can just do that I will have a clear mind to find a solution..
I will tell you from experience that once you reach that moment nothing but a person of trust will stop you from taking that hit, or drinking those shots, calling that sexual excitement, spending the money you don't have on the gambling machines, going out on the town with the sole purpose of getting wasted, because we truly believe that we are better prepared to control our vices, we will stop at our limit, what we never realize is that we allowed those vices to retake control by thinking you needed it to breathe.
What will ultimately usually happen is a night of uncontrolled guilt, constant war inside yourself, conscious tears filling up your emotional warhead..
all night this rage of self doubt quietly destroying your confidence, causing you to go right on past that limit of 2 shots, or just one line, or I'll only put 20 bucks in the slots, or I will just flirt I won't allow it to go past that,
because that fight is still loud and now more painful, because you know deep down that you allowed yourself to fall and laying there helpless...I cringe even writing these next words because it's so easy to reach this point of thinking that;
"obviously we were just meant to fail"
"why not right, "
"who really cares if I fail there's, no one here to stop me right..."
"So why should I have to carry this pain all the damn time, why is it so fucking easy for everyone else..."
And that's it...
(Those of you who are reading this and may be in this exact moment please, look at that image that you always hold in your mind of your child's eyes, look at that past moment when you and your daughter would lay under the stars with her head on your shoulder watching the magical pink elephant jump through a black sky as she explains how much she loves you and talks about anything and everything that her imagination creates under that massive sky where imagination always comes to life.... Feel her heart as she paints her masterpiece and ask you to help with the flowers over there by the big dipper so the elephant has something to give her mom,
please don't let your moment die because you have no more left, and no one in your face to help you, please call me I don't know you but I will before we hang up and I won't let you fail the only mission that will keep your children's smile alive for another year because you didn't let yourself fall.)
Cont. - don't Wake up the next day or still awake 12 hours later after all those "friends" left you to sit with your own guilt... Oh yeah, that guilt is now yelling loudly inside your entire soul, as it launches that emotional warhead of tears, oh yeah those evil people why did they let me do this....
Why did they... Urrrghhhhh why did I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,... DO this I can't believe I went back to what destroyed me and actually talked myself into believing this was going to help me....
It's in those tears and self reflection comes a choice that is now forced on you, oh hold that thought your friend from last night is calling, and they want to know if you want to continue this "unhealthy" adventure..
You either respond with a yes and have accepted that you have lost your control, and most times it will set you back 3-6 months or until your money runs out or those "friends" hurt you. And then you realize that all you did was take on more hurt and more pain and that's a scenario that will most likely continue to lead to occasional loss of all reality until you find that piece of your life that you keep looking over and afraid to pick up, and will cause your life to end up in constant downfalls until addressed.
Or you will have addressed that guilt and conquer a small war by not answering, because you are very In tune with accepting responsibility and able to understand that you could have destroyed your life, someone else's life, and now you know that you still are not able to control those periods of limbo when nothing is working. So accept responsibility for any loses you may have encountered, like a drug test at work, or a piece of your dignity, or people you thought were friends...
The first step from that is to immediately have the talk with that person you know will hold you accountable during those periods, 9 out of 10 times that person is who you looked up to as a child whether it's your mom, dad, grandparent, or sibling, for me it was my grandmother.. The moment you can go to them honestly no matter what it was that you did the night before, you have to let them know what that is, you have to be able to openly label the thing that will destroy you, and let them know how important they are to your strength, those tears from that conversation will build a mountain of motivation inside of you... Usually sparking that jolt to get you over that limbo...
Some people can afford to pay those people to help them, for the rest of us we have each other so that's my little piece of advice I hope it helps someone
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Again! Sorry for another question, and I hope this doesn't bother you... But I was wondering what a one-shot word count average is? I usually end up doing about 1000 - 1500 words as I get caught up in my writing hehe, but is that too long? Should I stick to around 500 or so? Hope this doesn't bother you too much!
Oh Spookster, you are not a bother in the least. I am glad you ask. Because I - and please, everyone sit down to hear this - did not know the complete deets on these by-word-count categorizations off the top of my head. I have a ballpark idea, of course, but still I tasked the interns with doing a lil’ digging.
Ah - while I’ve got ya - the interns [we’ll call them “Sham” and “Green”, the former who professed proficiency at research & the latter who appears to not know how to collate it at all] clarified some word vomit & added a point on Beta Readers which was left out in the answer to your first query. Moving on.
Let us take this moment to ask the fanfic writers of Tumblr their thoughts/what they were taught/what they’ve seen because TL;DR: there isn’t a formal, organized, academic-type fanfic-based collective with enough of a population of experts [and there would need to be criteria for what that means] for peer review and the like, ergo there cannot be any substantive consensus.
WHEN authors label/categorize their work on word count around here, these are the ones *I* have personally seen + what the “sources” below have claimed -
Drabble = 100 [some say “Exactly 100!” & to that Nash says “Suck it!”]
One-Shot = N/A [it’s one-and-done, length is irrelevant]
Multi-Part = N/A [length of each chapter irrelevant; know your audience’s attention span, cater to that]
Series = N/A [reasoning same as above]
Poem/Poetry = N/A [reasoning same as above]
Big Bang = a minimum is given by organizers; may be 20K, may be 50K, point is it’s the… um…. biggest
Prose = ya got me, because “prose” is just “story”, it’s not some special sub-type [”the ordinary form of spoken or written language, without metrical structure, as distinguished from poetry or verse”. And, PS? A secondary take can also be “dull, ordinary, commonplace, plain”, even “tedious”. I’d hesitate to call something of mine “prose” unless it had a qualifier like “melodic prose” or “poetic prose” or something]
This was a nutters hunt, right up there with crazed insects & sperm-donor poor-excuse-for-amazon daughters & the like. And you’re talking to a deep-diving, source ‘em if you got ‘em, just-the-facts-ma’am research hound. If it’s to be found, I can more often than not sniff it out.
My nose might have gotten bent on this one.
First things first: in the field of academia to which I am accustomed, anything at the five-year mark is pushing it, anything beyond that should likely stick to referring to it in a study/article/etc. as a “here’s what we knew then” sort of thing, in order to set the scene for the current hypotheses/results/etc. That’s why I include the dates when able, just FYI.
⦁ Trickster.org - “symposium article” from 2006 - “When Size Matters: Story Terminology as Determined by Word Count”
Opener: “Drabbles are a bit of a hot topic, and I’ve run across a few debates started by people who don’t like them. Now, this is nothing unusual in fandom, there seems to be at least one person who doesn’t like any given thing, and I usually just shrug my shoulders and move on. The problem with the drabble debates, however, lies in how people are defining drabbles.”
[Nash Note: Seems to be a transcript of a speech, but it was a horrific, rambling eyesore, I’d never recommend anyone go through it, and the fact that this person was considered expert enough to give commentary on the topic of writing is bone-chilling disturbing. I am not exaggerating this, it is one of the most poorly-conveyed run-downs of what current standings/thoughts are in a given field that I’ve ever come upon. I hope there were some kickin’ visual aids.]
C&Ping the main points that were stated with some sort of conviction:
A drabble is a story of exactly 100 words
“It’s debatable as to whether or not the title is included but the limit itself is not debatable”
“the common definition I’ve seen allows for one to fifteen extra words for the title ”
[Nash note: in various spots, they then proceed to tell about how these things *are* debatable in the fanfic community - much as they noted right off in the intro. Which is the topic. Fanfiction. Not “pro-lit”. Which should’ve been there just for touch-and-move-on comparative purposes. Not the bulk of the talk. Which it was.]
A drabble and a half is exactly 150 words
A double drabble is 200 words, and anything over that really stops being a drabble, but in fandom, any story in increments of 50 words is often still referred to as some permutation of drabble, i.e. double drabble and a half, triple drabble, triple drabble and a half, quad-drabble, etc.
Even in fandom, however, the key is that your word count is exactly on that 50 word increment mark, otherwise you are not writing a drabble of any kind
“In the pro-lit[erary] world…”: [just knock me out now]
any story under 500 words is flash fiction.
fic under 500 words that is not exactly 100 words, the term you want is flash fiction. Or even flashfic, or minute fic, or sudden fic, postcard fic, fast fic, quick fic, and a few others.
none of those alternatives are drabble.
over 500 words, but under 1000, is generally known as a short short.
Some magazines and anthologies actually use short short and flash fiction interchangeably, because of space constraints
1000 and over, up to 17500, is a short story
“So, just to review….” [sigh]
100 words = drabble
500 words and under = flash fiction
500-1000 words = short short
1000-15000 words = short story
17500 = novella/novelette
40000 = novel
vignette = nothing to do with word count; typically under 1000 words; the significant thing is theme - meant to give illumination - one character or the relationship between two or more characters; typically don’t involve a lot of action; some have limited dialogue
[Nash co-signs “vignette” definition]
⦁ Save the Drabble - 2005/6
This one has 2 sources and one of them is the person above - the other is another LJ community. This is a circle-jerk. No new info given. We move on.
⦁ Fanlore
This is a hodge-podge that made my eye twitch a bit, but at least they have more info and background on the terms.
They re-hash the “drabble debate” of it having to be precisely 100 words.
They are the first that brought up another term I see around T-Town which is Big Bang
“A Big Bang is a specific type of challenge usually involving long fics and accompanying artwork.This type of challenge is a reprise of the old zine tradition of collaboration between artists and writers for internet fandoms.”
They note that back in ‘zine land it was a minimum of 50K, then in another place they say “the consensus” went to a minimum of 20K
[Nash Note: I gotta eschew my formatting, I’ve met my allotted time for this answer, as more peeps lie in wait for their Dear Nash to be addressed! I linked the blogbelow the other day because It. Is. Fantastic. This is what I was able to find for fanfic related terminology on lengths, threw in a couple other goodies, too - go over there and see if you have better luck pulling up with other search terms, entirely possible I wasn’t hitting the nail on the head with mine]
Writing Questions Answered - Tumblr
One result for “drabble”:
http://writing-questions-answered.tumblr.com/search/drabble
Doesn’t talk about length
One result for “one-shot”:
http://writing-questions-answered.tumblr.com/post/45179836171/fan-fiction-how-to-write-a-one-shot-fanfic
“A one-shot fanfic is a standalone story that is one chapter long and focuses on a single situation or event, usually from just one character’s point-of-view. There is no official length for a one-shot, but typically they are between 1,000 and 8,000 words long.”
Length in general in the published world:
http://writing-questions-answered.tumblr.com/post/108997534333/advice-short-chapters-not-sure-about-word-count
Target length depends on what you’re writing:
Short Story - 1k - 7500 k
Novella - 20k - 50k
Novel-
Middle Grade 25k - 40k
Young Adult 45k - 80k
New Adult: 60k - 85k
Adult 65k - 120k
….and reinforces that nobody should or really does [in the pro world] care about chapter lengths - depends on what’s going on in the chapter. Nash side note on this? Know your audience. The younger they get, the less attention span - not that they can’t or won’t knock out a big book in the long-run, but you don’t want them to grow frustrated along the way, possibly checking out or worse, stopping altogether.
Talks more about standards for professional lengths:
http://writing-questions-answered.tumblr.com/post/62254683880/advice-story-feels-rushed
Really good piece on “nevers” and “always” when it comes to “dos” and “don'ts”.
http://writing-questions-answered.tumblr.com/post/147225002823/a-quick-psa-about-writing-rules
I agree. And for me, there’s certainly lots of good advice out there, you’ll find some of it is objectively true, but on the other hand, it may be worth trying your hand at various things to see what (a) sticks with your target audience, and (b) speaks to your personal style.
Plus - in my experience - there’s some “nevers” that I suspect got popular due to propagation by people who just don’t do whatever it is terribly well. [shrugs]
Chuckspeed, my friend. So sayeth the Nash, so say we all.
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