#and how jenson is the only teammate of lewis’s who beat him and who lewis talks fondly of. how jenson faced

[keepthedelta]

Hi Delta, what do you mean that Lewis was always more weirder about Nico during their careers? Because I totally agree with you. My older brother, who was quite into F1 since early 2010, used to tell me about these two, who were not teammates but were always together. Nowadays, he is not so into the sport anymore. He says there is no passion and the drivers play too much PR.

okay it's a totally personal opinion, but when you look at their actions when they were racing and after nico's retirement, i think lewis is the one who comes across as a bit weirder. it's stuff like the whole "i don't remember when i met nico that's the sort of thing you remember about your lady" thing, even though he had literally already written it in his book. it's the fact that when things first started getting nasty between them, nico's media line was "yes, there will always be a certain level of respect rooted in that friendship" while lewis went "well we're not friends". and after lewis said that, iirc there was a journalist that asked about their history together and lewis got very quiet and a bit lost and a bit emotional and didn't really have an answer. there was a time when lewis was asked by a journalist how he and nico had changed since they were children, and lewis said "well he's married now" (he did also follow that up with and i'm almost married, so i think some of it was about nicole scherzinger, but i think it's interesting that his response was about their personal lives).

and i think the way lewis has defined their relationship over the years is interesting. he's gone from talking about nico in his book to pretending he doesn't remember how they met to saying they're not friends to saying they were best friends to saying they were never friends. the story has changed so many times from him, while nico has generally been quite consistent about it. and although people think of nico as the one who can't stop talking about their relationship now, when they were racing together, lewis was the one largely defining the relationship to the media. nico mostly stuck to pr line "it's complicated" etc. while lewis was telling them that nico watched him swim in the pool and then came down to talk to him. and while this is something that had definitely happened at some point (i think they mentioned it in 2013), i personally have my doubts that it happened in 2016. lewis said that to the media just after baku i believe, which was where he fucked his quali astronomically and destroyed his drivers room he was so annoyed with himself. niki lauda said that they were barely talking and wouldn't even say the others name in the garage, so while it's very possible that they were trying to ignore each other at work and being desperately weird at home, i think it's equally possible that lewis was making the whole thing up to make the relationship seem better than it was (but also in a way that positioned nico as the weird one).

and then there's all the ways lewis tries not to say nico's name or acknowledge their friendship. when he was talking about coming to monaco for the first time on some british tv show he said he came to visit "a frien - someone i used to kn - a friend". like, someone is clearly not over that whole relationship. and when talking about having harder teammates than max verstappen, he can mention george and valtteri and jenson and fernando, all people he's beaten, but not the only teammate to beat him to a championship? and his excuse of "oh i've just had so many teammates" well you managed to name everyone except nico and lets face it that was not an accident. he put effort into not saying nico's name, and not talking about their relationship. meanwhile nico can say that they're neutral and that lewis gives his daughters presents at christmas because he has totally accepted their relationship and their history for what it is in a way that i don't think lewis has.

and i do agree with your brother, there's way too much pr now. i don't need the drivers to be physically fighting each other on the track but i think the way everyone has to pretend to be best friends is frustrating. it's a sport, and these are competitors, and if the fans are expected to have sports feelings about it then the actual athletes are also going to have sports feelings about their own careers. pretending otherwise is both boring, and almost insulting to the viewer. i know it's for marketing purposes, but most of the people watching are adults who can conceptualise people in competition with each other, even if they're on the same team, not being best friends.

[milflewis]

hello so i’ve been thinking about slagclaren and their inability to communicate but still that innate feeling of trust and companionship and comfort in each others presence. or something

[racewinners-landoandsam]

You are so right about the team and orders. In Hungary when they guilt tripped Lando into fixing their own mistake, the team told him “you can��t win a championship on your own, you’ll need Oscar” okay like when are you going to make that happen? When is Oscar going to pay that forward? Wouldn’t the smart thing in Monza have been to tell Oscar to hold up and cover Lando then start building a gap? It does feel like Lando is on his own at times with McLaren.

I know it’s been a year, but Carlos was more of a teammate to Lando in Singapore, than Oscar was today.

you're so true about singapore. carlos did something that benefitted him and lando, oscar only did something that benefitted himself, it meant lando lost a place as well.

lando has been loyal to the team since they signed and supported him. he did work experience around the garage when he was eighteen, so he was ready to start the following year. he's had interest from other top teams, but has chosen to stay with mclaren. he's had talks with red bull and chosen to sign a mclaren contract the very next day.

six years he has been loyal to this team. he has never been out qualified by a teammate, even in his rookie season.

in 2019 he finished the championship 47 points behind his more experienced teammate.

in 2020 he closed that gap down to 8 points behind carlos, and helping to secure 3rd place in the championship.

in 2021 there was so much talk about daniel embarrassing lando out of the sport, he responded by beating his teammate who had been in the sport for 8 years longer.

in 2022 he increased that gap and outscored him by 85 points, which ultimately ended in daniel losing his seat.

in 2023 lando beat oscar by 108 points, which is crazier when you think about how many people were talking about how good oscar was in his rookie season.

lando has proved again and again how good he is, even when the machinery he's given isn't as good as he makes it look. the mclaren has only really been good since austria 2023, and since then lando has had 17 podiums, including 2 wins. before then he's had 6 podiums. he was the only driver not in the top three teams to get a podium in 2022.

there is a reason so many of the older/former drivers like lando so much. fernando, lewis, nico, jenson, have all spoken about how good lando is. all championship winning drivers, surely that counts for something.

when nico rosberg is telling zak brown they need to prioritise lando, surely something clicks there. when your driver is second place in the championship with their competitor not qualifying well, surely something clicks there. i'm all for drivers racing, but mclaren have a chance here. they may keep it up for next year, they may even keep it up when the regulations change. but why risk it, when they have a chance of a championship this year.

lando has stuck with mclaren through the bad years. joined with a team that had one of their worst years in 2018. he watched his teammate get a win in 2021, followed the team orders and stayed behind, then at the next race he got so close to his win, but mclaren let him make the decision about the tyres, which never should have been his decision. then in 2022 the car was awful, mclaren were no where near with the regulations, but he got a podium regardless. in 2023 the team got it right, but he still accepted that he wasn't going to get a win, max was too far ahead. now the team have two good drivers, a car that looks to be the fastest at most tracks, yet they still keep bottling wins, and still won't prioritise lando's championship.

oscar is doing much better this year, his race pace has improved a lot, but lando is faster. we all know how much faster he was at hungary, but he still listened to team orders, because he is a team player, and surely at some point he should be rewarded for that.

surely at some point his loyalty, and his skill should be seen and rewarded. he has been the top driver since 2021, it makes no sense that oscar keeps getting preferential treatment.

it kind of feels like gentle parenting. lando got a win, so oscar should get a win too. it's stupid.

anyway, sorry for rambling, i'm pissed off at the moment, and needed to do the research to prove how stupid mclaren are and how amazing lando is!!

[blorbocedes]

seeing as the topic of lewis and teammates has come up again 🤭 how would you rank lewis's teammates and where does nico stand in that order?

fernando, nico, jenson, valtteri = george

I rate fernando very highly as a driver, and so does lewis -- he called him his prost! he's a double world champion and he's still putting up a fight to lewis to this day.

nico is ofc the only 1 who beat him to the title in the same car, and was always competitive. made lewis realize he has to actually work on his race starts.

of world champion teammates I'd say jenson is the weakest

on one hand george can't drive or race wheel to wheel, on the other hand valtteri was too submissive a teammate to be any threat so I don't rate either very highly

[vro0m]

The whole situation is magnified by Merc's incompetent driver management, I hope they can realize thise problem during this non-championship-fight year and can solve it as soon as possible.

But one thing I will sure is George is having the route where Nico and Valtteri once had, Realizing you may not the fastest guy, a belief they held and was confirmed by countless single seater championships during their whole racing life, and he is trying too hard to tell the team he wasn't slow compared to Lewis, he is proving something he can't prove, which is distracting him driving him into error-prone.

Only Jenson accepted at very first time that Lewis is simply faster than him and he can't never beat him in speed wise a season, this self awareness make he not have these mental break down process and can beat Lewis sometimes by using his experience advantage. Like Alonso didn't accept rookie Lewis can match and beat him that he threw advantage as a more experienced driver and team number one driver status away and went into against team, forcing himself have to waste 2008-2009 in driving Renault in midfield.

I don't think by GR's personality he will accept it from any way, even Valtteri needed spend 5 years to finally admit the obvious fact , and i don't think he can pull a Nico 2016 bc at that time Nico was already realized he is slower, that's why he can put his whole career to have a final shoot.

I think the Lewis-George lineup will have a quite interesting and very different dynamic to all former lineup we saw with Lewis, and in the end is all down to how Mercedes manage George, bc from Lewis's side, whether is George or some else it doesn't matter, he only aims on one thing, while George does have a lot little mind, which is normal for drivers with his talent and ambition but yeah if is out of control it will cost a lot, not only for team ,but also for himself.

Yeah I disagree about a bunch of stuff there Anon. Tbh it should be obvious to you if you read my blog frequently but I'm still gonna answer because I have time to kill before I go on a walk.

Calling Mercedes' driver management incompetent is a bit much tbh. They have to find their balance and set limits and get to a place of understanding between all parties but it's not that bad right now. It's more a matter of making sure it doesn't escalate than it already been escalated.

I don't think George is realising he's not the faster guy or whatever you said because right now it's really not that clear cut that he is, or at least he's not that far off. I don't think he's making mistakes because he thinks he's slower than Lewis I think he's making mistakes because he's eager to race and win and he's eager to not find himself relegated to a second driver position. He's right to want to race and win and he's right to want to make sure he's fully taken into account by the team. Historically that has not always been the case for Lewis' teammates. Does that lead him to overdo it a bit sometimes at the moment? Maybe. Whether he is indeed slower or not, he doesn't think he is, for sure. He's even a bit arrogant about not thinking that he is, in my honest opinion.

Bringing up Jenson as an example of someone who accepted Lewis was faster is absolutely insane given he's one of three drivers who beat him in the same machinery in his F1 career, the two others obviously being Nico and George. There's a lot of specific context around all three of these seasons but saying Jenson didn't have a breakdown because he accepted he was slower is just wrong. Jenson didn't have breakdown because 1) he's more well-balanced mentally than 99% of F1 drivers and 2) Lewis was not driving well so it's really arguable whether he was faster than Jenson at the time, and if he really was it didn't matter in the end anyway because he still lost out to him. So Jenson didn't have to accept anything.

Also I'm not gonna repeat what I said in the previous 24 hours re: whether George can beat Lewis or not, you can just re-read these yourself. You can wish it not to be the case (like me) but the truth is none of us know what's to come. George is not Nico, and George is not Valtteri. And Lewis is not in the position he was when he was up against Nico or when he was partnering Valtteri. Where I agree with you is when you say it will be different than any other line-up we've seen. But then if that's the case, why do you start by saying George is in the same position Nico and Valtteri were? He's not. First and foremost because Lewis doesn't have the means to be as competitive as he can be right now, unlike when Nico and Valtteri were his teammates. It's an opportunity for George neither of them have had. Or maybe Nico during Lewis' first year at Merc. And Lewis ended that year only 19 points ahead of Nico, so the gap really wasn't that big.

I feel like you just don't like George, or alternatively you only or mostly like Lewis, so you underestimate him. I'm not interested in such discussions to be honest. I hope you don't take me disagreeing with you personally.

[skitskatdacat63]

I say this lovingly, WITH LOVE, bc I love Lewis, but RB dominance early 2010's Lewis was a brat and a petty bitch, he only ever even really touched Jenson in those post quali pics if he was in the middle, boy did not like being 2nd or 3rd and there's 3 years of pics to prove it lol

which makes those specific pictures you posted look even FUNNIER because Seb and Jenson always had fucking heart eyes at each other

you're bang on with Mark though, man had the most irritating little shit as a teammate and often was relegated to 🧍‍♂️ on the end unless he caught Jenson's heart eyes first

Omgggggg yes!! Every once in a while I'm reminded again of Lewis's McLaren era Twitter drama and I have to go look at them again. Though I've been watching Tooned lately so I'm so used to their more friendly competition buddy-buddy relationship in that, and I'm looking at all these pics like "oh wait yeah a bit of tension!"

I think its very interesting to look back on these, bcs nowadays people will get on drivers asses so much if they don't look happy for their teammate beating them(i.e. the beginning of this season with Max and Checo, everyone would start some shit about how Max looks upset and how he can't even bear to pretend to be happy.) I look at this like, wow you would not like the older eras then! Not that I was personally there but looking back at certain teammates. It's so funny with teammates pairings like Slagclaren and Martian. Just straight up ignoring each other or looking openly pissed(I think about Seb Hungary 2010 so much.)

The language of touch is such an interesting thing when looking at these pics when they're all standing together? As I said, Jense almost always has his arm curled around Seb's shoulders and Seb's leaning into him. Whereas whoever else is with them(for podiums as well), mostly just has the accustomary one hand behind whoevers in the middle's back. You can almost always tell just at a glance who's happy and who's unhappy with the results just by how close they're standing and how touchy. And Seb and Jense are always happy for each other 🥺🥺🥺

Anyways, that's why I like 2011, because it's RBR and McLaren together at the top, with other teams occasionally getting up there. And it's two teammate partnerships where they're bitchy and salty with each other, but then Jense and Seb who are literally married rivals, so their teammates are forced to be the awkward third wheel. But omg I love the ones where it's Seb and Jense standing like a married couple and Lewis just standing however far apart he can without not being out of the pic:

But the Hungary one in particular is still sending me 😭

HE'S SO DONE WITH THEM!!!!

Also also, so true what you said about Mark catching Jense's eyes first! You made me think of this pic:

[fcb-mv33]

You are so spot on about Lewis trying mind games on Max and failing miserably while doing so. Everyone who watched F1 for a long time knows how toxic Lewis is and how you cannot be friends with him if you are challenging him on the track. Ruined his only good friendship with Nico because of it and still can't handle the fact that he lost to him. He literally wanted to fight with Seb fist to fist, imagine if Max said that to the media now. Posted Jenson's confidential telemetry to his twitter just because, IMAGINE if Max did the same for Checo.

For some reason, Lewis still thinks that he can win with mind games (same with how Alonso is still doing) and Max literally saying "generation difference" when asked about their rivalry speaks A LOT. Max knows what Lewis is trying to do, his dad was teammates with Schumacher who INVENTED those games, he knows the game. He knows it all, he is immune to it. He was born and trained for F1 in every single aspect, you cannot beat him. Lewis knows this, still tries because he cannot beat his mentality but he can manipulate his own fans. This is why his fans are called the cult as well. He is the most toxic person this sport has ever seen.

The funniest thing about Lewis’s mind games with Max is they truly only started after silverstone, the moment he saw that he had someone who only saw Lewis as another driver nothing more and then he decided to act the way he did. Sure the mind games have been around for years when it came to Max mostly about him never using Maxs name but post Silverstone’21 he really used the media to try and dig at Max.

Then this year lewis has used every opportunity he could to chat shit about Max. Silverstone he made a shitty comment to the media and to Charles, Brazil he made the incident seem like all of Max’s fault. Used an interview (with Ted) to try and say Max has different motives for the way he drivers against him, and then made a shitty backhanded comment which was intentional aimed at the drama around Max in Brazil.

Yet the man never noticed that Max not only couldn’t give a fuck in anyway but it makes Lewis look so fucking obsessed with having to use the media to paint Max as the bad guy.

[presdestigatto]

Yeah I understand your point.

I guess I got more angry because of the way lewis fans are reacting, like saying horrible things aboht charles unprovoked. Saw one of them yesterday saying that charles now would be lewis butler.

And its already like this now, imagine during the season. So that kind of made me wish for lewis to not win the 8 just mostly because of these fans. Also because if one is winning a wdc in ferrari I would rather be charles. Imagine charles fighting to bring Ferrari back to glory for ages only to Lewis arrive and get the glory himself.

About Lewis teammates, you're right he didn't it got it easy like max.

But here is another thing that worries me. I saw some people saying that Lewis got bad blood with pretty much all his teammates except Bottas? So pretty much he was only ok with the one was acting like a second to him

That makes me wonder how it will be with charles. I know they are friendly now, but once they are competing I think it will be different.

Like last year for example, I got the impression Lewis was always asking for team orders. Many times George would fairly be on front because he qualified better and then during the race Lewis would start complaining on the radio.

This makes me anxious about 2025 because even if charles end up having an advantage at quali, what if during races lewis start to ask for the better strategy or to undercut / let him pass?

hey! i think it’s very valid to be pissed at the narratives going around on twitter rn. thinking Charles will fall in line as ferrari’s second driver just because his teammate is a multi-time world champion- where have we seen this before. lol.

ultimately, ferrari is an company and a business and i really doubt that the upper execs care whether lewis or charles brings the title home. christian horner once said that ferrari is too influenced by italian newspapers— currently this protects Charles because they love him. i’d wait and see what narrative they decide to spin regarding the 1644 pairing. i think @verstappenclerc said it well how Charles is still the tifosi’s darling while Lewis was the ‘enemy’ for a good number of years, this probably won’t change unless Charles starts pulling absolute stinkers and they turn on him

anyways onto Lewis again, i think that’s a bit exaggerated due to the silver war? the brocedes fallout is very stark in everyone’s memories, but Charles isn’t Lewis’ childhood friend who Lewis has been constantly beating since they were like 12 lol. he’s chill w George and i could be wrong, but i think he and Jenson were pretty peaceful? in the end i trust in Lewis’ character.

also i don’t pay attention to merc but from what teamlh say, it’s the opposite w George and Lewis 😭 i genuinely dk, but ferrari is still Charles’ team. i think we’ll see them go w2w a couple of times which i’m actually quite looking forward to.

ultimately i am the wrong person to ask about mercedes team dynamics, maybe someone else can weigh in? whether the strategy team will continue to give us teammate related headaches—no point worrying about it now. it’s still a whole year away

[delicate44]

No George fan implied luck!

You driver was the luckiest guy in last season,he is not Mr.Saturday he is the fking Mr. Lucky Boy,wining fraudulent pole and win.

If you want to talk about Brazil,let’s talk.

Lewis had 5-6 laps tyre advantage before his 2nd pit and as Merc tradition is pit leader driver first Lewis should be pitted after George several laps but guess what,Lewis was pitted 1 lap earlier than his teammate,completely taking away his tyre advantage,Merc tried so hard to avoid Lewis race against George but sadly 63 is such a shit at tyre management so every time whenever he started before Lewis,without those terrible luck,Lewis used his pace to come close and even pass him.

Don’t even mention his fraudulent pole in Hungaroring,tell me the name of the man even starting from pole but still finished behind Lewis who started from P7.No luck from safety car, man showed true colour.

I can tell you George’s typical routine in every stint whatever the tyre he uses—first,makes some fastest sectors and laps once he changes new tires to tell everyone “Guys see who is coming?I’m the quickest man now!”,then ‘somehow’ his tires are gone and he cries it in team radio and wants to change strategy to gamble,when Lewis uses the same tires and closes to him,he will imply no team fight but asks different strategies to beat Lewis even that will hurt the team.

Give a example.Abu Dhabi 2022,after Lewis had some car problems and dropped behind George,he pitted after 3 laps in Lap19 to start his 2nd stint with same hard tyre as 63 who had 5-6s gap in front after both pitted,and watch the time,Lewis continually decreased the gap and forced him to pit,and the gap now was only 0.6s. George was so slow that even his track engineer asked him did he push hard in Lap35,bc the engineer saw Lewis was 0.2-0.5 faster than him per lap.

63 is fast in one lap but no where near Lewis in race pace and tyre management,if you are his fan at least watch his game seriously,your guy is just mind-game-loved version of VB or quick-in-one-lap version of Jenson Button.

Thanks for compiling the data anon! IMO, I think GR is quite narrow minded while racing. He wants the overtake done or be ahead of someone and not care about the entire race or tyre management. He's definitely not a team player which we've witnessed barely three races this season. I'm not sure how things will change once the car gets better but I ain't supporting the guy.

Great job on the data, Anon 😇 I couldn't have complied it.

[myimaginarywonderland]

I am sorry are some of you trying to be this delusional or dense? Can you not just let Lewis say something for once without compeltly changing the meaning of what he said?

Not once did Lewis imply Max was a bad driver or that RedBull hasn't been on it for years.

Max is winning just like everyone else because he is a great driver with an amazing car. Just like Seb did or Michael, or Senna or Prost or literally anyone in the history of F1.

You can not win without an amazing car and you can not win if you aren't at least a good driver. And you can't win consistently if you aren't surounded by a high functioning team. You need strategist to be at their top, pitstops to go flawlessly, a great team manger and just an all around working environment. Seb had it, Hakkinnen had it, Kimi had it,literally every world champion had at least a good working environment if not a great one.

I am sure Lewis would say that for his titles everything also needed to be on top. Hell, we even saw how Mercedes had such a pace advantage at times that they relied on that and forget to actually work which caused stupid mistakes that ruined races.

Lewis is not hinting at anything, he is simply telling the truth. Expect for Checo and Daniel the only true competitors and comparison Max had were essentially rookies. Alex and Pierre were both inexperienced still and especially when it came to RedBull. Carlos was honestly never that good of a driverr before he got to McLaren and he literally started his rookie season alongside with Max.

And even Checo or Daniel are nowhere close to the level of caliber Lewis went up against in his rookie season let alone any other season.

Nando is probably the best driver of the 2000s if we ignore Michael. That man single-handedly beat Michael, challenged him and a young Kimi early one and nearly would have won 2 more titles in a Ferrari that he dragged up to the top because the car certainly wasn't on par with Sebs RedBull. If you can't see that Nando is probay the best of the early 2010s, hell even better than Seb possibly, you are just completely off.

Heikki was another great team-mate of Lewis. He was never a WDC but he was arguably good and had moments of genuine great drive.

Jenson is another incredible driver that is miles better than any team-mate Max has ever gone up against. I could name some races here but his title speaks for itself. He has also something that many of the drivers Max went against lacked which is a supportive environment.

And now we are down to Nico who is probably the greatest challenge Lewis ever had even though he went up against Nando. Nico is probably one of the most underrated WDC winners and genuinely a great driver.

Valtteri was quiet literally amazing at Williams even at Mercedes he did well if we ignore 2021 where it was clear that he was completly exhausted from trying to compete with Lewis.

George is a generational talent and a WDC in the making.

Meanwhile Checo is a great midfield driver and an okay top team driver.

And Daniel, he is a good top team driver. That's it. He isn't WDC material like George, one of the greats like Nando, a WDC like Jenson or Nico. He also was beaten by Valtteri so I think that tells us which of the two is better. (Let's not forget that Valtteri also had a better junior career and was getting podiums since his second year and beating more experienced drivers like Seb in worse machinery.)

Ricciardo is not on pare with any of Lewis teammates expect maybe Heikki and even that is underestimating Heikkis talents. And that's about it. It's fine to rate him highly especially as a fan but to imply that he is better than drivers line Jenson, Nico, Valtteri is just absurd.

Lewis has been against good, great or even some of the best drivers for his whole career.

The only thing Max had to face were average rookies, a good midfield driver and Daniel. This isn't be meant to shame Max, he is still an incredible driver but he never had anything close to the challenge that Lewis team-mates posed over the years. Not to mention the whole Brocedes thing which took not only fighting but also the literally destroying of a life long friendship and emotional wounds which will probably never heal.

All of Lewis teammates if not for him would at the very least be challenging for a WDC or would have in most cases won it. No one of Max's teammates comes close to that. Not Sainz, not Alex, not Gasly, not Checo and certainly not Daniel eventhough many would like to think that. This doesn't mean they are bad drivers but none of them have the winner mentality, the genuine unique talent or the incredible speed to ever come close to that, let alone the strategic thinking. They don't have that cut edge which every WDC had but which could he different for everyone.

This need to use anything Lewis says and twist it to fit into a narrative is something I thought we left behind. This need to undermine Lewis's success and subsequently everyone who was alongside him for that is toxic and harmful, not to mention incredibly disheartening because it discredits so many drivers in the protest.

To act like Lewis teammates are bad purely to uplift a good driver is damaging the reputation of those drivers even more although all of them are clearly great drivers.

To act like Lewis has always been in his prime Mercedes days is just a false narrative. Lewis has been one of the greats since he came in and nearly won the title in his rookie season against a much more experienced drivers and another highly skilled driver.

I don't care what you think about Max even in 2016, he was far too reckless and hot headed to have won a title if he would have had the Mercedes.

I don't think some of you guys understand how incredible what Lewis did was especially since he was in a field of such skilled and well established drivers.

And if you guys want to bost some slightly better than mid driver (in the grand scheme of F1) by discrediting some of the greats of this decade and one of the best in the sport, you better be prepared to face this backlash because Ricciardo isn't even close to any of Lewis teammates and he clearly wasn't a challenge to Max either.

Max has never had to fight a team-mate like Lewis has had to fight Nando or even Nico.

This doesn't make Max a bad driver or makes him accomplishments any less meaningful. He is still a great driver and to admit that he didn't face the same fights as Lewis isn't taking that away.

But you can not compare them.

Lewis has been fighting for titles against some of the best for his whole career.

The only fight Max ever had was against Lewis and neither one of them truly won that.

Max has had average teammates, good at most and never great like Lewis did.

I'm sorry.. What a shit take 😂 Max is winning because he is MAX! There is no need to hint at Max's team mates current or past that they're ”bad” or slow.

Daniel's metacarpal alone is better than half of those he named.. 🙄 AND! Red Bull were best at strategy and pitstops even when they weren't winning.

[piastri]

snippets from Jenson’s ‘How to be an F1 driver’ book

- he really didn’t want to participate in Monaco 2018 and tried to get out of it

- ‘oscar winning head and shoulder ad’

- raced against max’s mum Sophie in karting ‘she was so quick’

- race off track cars ‘for the shits and giggles’

- ‘rapunzel had nothing on us when it came to letting our hair down’

- post race we’d be like ‘where’s the party?’ me, Daniel Ricciardo, David coulthard anyone else we could rope in

- Back then there was a right crew Michael Schumacher, David coulthard to name but 2 who always used to party after the race, now it’s a bit different whilst there’s still some drivers painting the town various shades of red on a regular basis ‘don’t worry I won’t tell your mum Max’

- His starting salary at 20 was £500k

- some drivers get a 1 million pound bonus for winning a race

- my beloved baby bells

- slimy gits who only did the simulator twice in the year, not mentioning any names *fernando alonso*

- in the pre podium room don’t go flinging ur cap around like a spoilt child if you have a problem with another driver don’t go airing it there and then... wander who that’s about

- Nick Cassidy has an issue with getting the cork out of the champagne bottle

- In Middle Eastern races the champagne is actually rose water

- Team button came up with a couple of good nicknames Britney was probably the best one for nico rosberg because he had long wavy hair I remember him walking into a nightclub in Tokyo and being very happy to see our lot till i stood up and yelled ‘Britney hit me baby one more time’ across the club at him. the smile turned upside down pretty quickly.

- You have to be choosy I only want to swap helmets with certain drivers, drivers I had some kind of history with either because we were mates off the track or we had great racing on it.

- Removing the pockets makes looking cool in overalls which is of course the driver’s primary goal that much harder. It was one of those marginal gains (lighter weight) that took time to catch on. We at mclaren lost our pockets earlier, other drivers would see you coming into the paddock and deliberately put their hand in their pockets openly mocking you.

- Having competitions to see who could get out of the car fastest. When the FIA steward had already seen 5 teams and come to you would ask what the fastest extraction time was (Sebastian Vettel 3.5 seconds) you would do it multiples times till you beat it.

- Sometimes you get in the car a bit early, start dozing off and have an erection. Why do you think they call it a cockpit?

- Fartings great because it’s stays in the cockpit, I’d always call my mechanic over ‘mate can I ask you something?’ and he’d put his head in the cockpit and know instantly ‘oh you dirty bastard!’ and then I’d hold his arm so he couldn’t get away.

- Oh look there’s a social media post of him doing some star jumps what a good boy!’

- Nando was a bit of a poor loser. He was the most complete driver out of all his teammates. But Lewis was the quickest.

[sir-lancelot-strulovich]

a little f1 history lesson about lewis championship with mclaren (i say a lesson because i am writing a paper about a part of the history of f1 and i am finishing my history degree, if anyone wants more info on that, hit me up)

when lewis won his first championship with mclaren in 2008, it was completely different to the ones he has won with mercedes. and i am here to tell you about it.

i am not taking the credit away from him in anyway whatsoever, but f1 has changed a lot in those 13 years, cars have changed, regulations have changed and drivers have changed.

in 2007, in lewis' rookie year, he came second in the championship, 1 point behind kimi and tied in the points with fernando (he was tied in wins, but had more second places than the spanish driver, so that put him above in the championship). some say that because of spygate that year, both lewis and fernando were not allowed to win the driver's championship as a punishment, so they lost on purpose. mclaren was a dominant car, having both drivers in the top 3, but were disqualified from constructors' championship because of spygate.

in 2008, when lewis won the championship, he won by a point from massa. massa actually had driven the perfect championship but was fucked but due to exterior circumstances and ended up being the second driver most affected by crashgate (only behind nelsinho). Brazil 2008 was a representation of felipe's championship (do everything perfectly, but still lose due to something that was not under your control). mclaren was again one of the best cars (according to the constructors' standings, the second best), and it was the year that lewis probably had his weakest teammate in heikki kovalainen (sorry heikki fans, but i think he finished 7th or 8th in the standings compared to lewis 1st, and again, i am not taking away the merit of lewis' dominance over his teammate).

from 2009 to 2012, the years in which lewis was in mclaren, things started to change in mclaren and started to change to lewis as well. in the f1 world, brawn gp showed up in 2009, with their double diffusers, and took the paddock by storm. red bull racing also started to show strength having their first f1 win (also, fun fact, in 2008, when seb won with Toro Rosso in monza, it wasn't decided yet if red bull or toro rosso would be the number 1 team in the red bull family), and mclaren wasn't a dominatn car anymore. lewis still dominated his teammate (heikki finished in 12th) but he finished 5th in the championship, behind both brawns and red bulls. mclaren finished 3rd in the constructors (throw back to the controversial lance statement, being the goat might mean you can get 3 or 4 places more in the car, but still is tough af, specially to do that consistently due to the car you have. but lewis is a goat, and did get more out of the car). in 2010 jenson joined as his teammate, a breath of fresh air for lewis having another defending champion as his teammate so he was back to having someone to fight against. lewish finished 4th that year, behind 2 red bulls and a ferrari, jenson right behind him in 5th. this was the beggining of red bull dominance era. mclaren wasn't a dominant car.

2011 was a strange year for lewis (@formulinos wrote about it beautifully, detailing lewis and nicole's relationship and how all of that was a huge mess, so go read that). i guess this was the year in which all that mess affected him the most, cause for the first time he was beaten by a teammate. lewis finished in 5th in the championship, while jenson was 2nd. this was probably lewis' worst season since his debut in 2007 and it also shows that even the best of the bests can have a tough time sometimes (and still become a fucking goat a couple of years later). according to the constructors, mclaren had the second best car

In 2012 lewis was back to beating his teammate (by 2 points, lewis in 4th, jenson in 5th). Kimi was back in f1 with lotus, both ferrari and mclaren were being shitshows, but ferrari was the better shit show and came in second in the standings (or also, Fernando was in his best form of his life, made a shit ton of points, and if he was in the dominating car *cough cough rbr which he could have gone to instead of seb in 2009 but I can tell you all about it on another day* he would have won that championship). that is another example of a fucking great driver unfortunately not winning the championship due to an inferior car.

from 2013 on, lewis was in mercedes and we all know how that went with mercedes taking dominance in the hybrid era and lewis only being beaten again by a teammate in 2016, which is a whole other story. but what i wanted to say from this is, lewis is (in numbers he is of all times but also in many other ways) the best f1 driver of this generation (i won’t say of all times in general just so i don’t have to get In another argument because it ends up being much more subjective), even tho there was a 5 year gap between his first championship and his second (which if I am not wrong, its a record in f1 for being the longest gap, or is it schumacher’s? my math is really bad when it comes to years), because it is impossible to be dominant and win a championship if you don’t have the best car on the grid. just like in 1993, which you had senna in the form of his life, but he still lost on the championship to prost who was in a williams that can be considered one of the best f1 cars of all times, not even the fastest driver of all times (talking about raw speed) could beat Williams electronic suspension that was driven by another fucking great driver.

this is also to warn people that, if for whatever reason, in 2022, mercedes loses its dominance due to regulation changes, or lewis goes to another team (you never know, he might want to partner seb in aston martin), or even he decides to drive in another category just for the sake of it (imagine lewis in formula e), he might not be the champion because it is FUCKING HARD to do that if you don’t have the best/dominant machinery, and lewis not winning in the near future will not mean that he is losing his speed.

(sorry for any spelling mistakes or runover sentences, i did not proofread this and I haven’t written this much in english in a while)

[jashasedai]

Glitter Party

So I wrote a fluffy story.

It’s in the Tame Racing Driver AU

Racing Drivers and their human doubles Xerxes- Alexander Rossi Trace- Jules Bianchi Freeza- Max Chilton Alisar- Esteban G Sunshine- Sebastian Rabbit- Mark Alondra- Fernando Sugarboy- Jenson Prince(female)- Nico Snap- Lewis Jaamies- Kimi

Glitter Party

The Grand Tour-

[I brought you something.] Xerxes gestured, around an armful of box.  Of the other members of the Grand Tour, only Trace could understand him.

[What is it?] he asked.

[Where did you get it?] Freeza asked.

[We're going to have a party.  This box has everything we need.]

Trace opened it.  It was a shipping box, about half a meter to a side.  It was full of plastic bags with different kinds of glitter.  Shapes, big metal flakes, sparkle dust- all in Red.  "Ohhh," he breathed.

[Cool!] Alisar reached out and took a bag of sparkle dust.  He smiled up at Guardian. [Best party ever.]

The rest of the Racing Drivers dug into the box.

Glitter party.

Sebastian-

Mark could say what he liked, he was wrong.  He was always wrong, anyway, he should be used to it.  Glitter party was absolutely the best way to celebrate a win or a finish with your Racing Driver.  He had the money to spend to make Sunshine happy, to reward him for his performance.  So he brought the 200$ Auld Lang Syne pack from the party supply store.  17 different kinds of glitter.  Including a 6 oz package of balloon shaped jumbo confetti glitter.  The balloons were about a centimeter long, cut out of the same shiny metallic stuff most of the glitter flakes were made of, and the balloons had curly tails.  Perfect.  He always made double sure to buy the pack with red glitter, Sunshine's favorite color.  His, too, Ferrari red.  He smiled when he thought of Ferrari.  Maybe Kimi and Jaamies would want to come to their glitter party.

He opened the door to the storage space and stared at the empty space on the shelf.  No.  The box should be right here.  The company delivered them to every track on race weekends.  To the Redbull motorhome.  The staff knew to put it right here on the shelf.

'What's wrong, Sebastian?' Sunshine chirped, reacting to his alarm. 'Don't worry, we'll figure it out.'

He couldn't tell Sunshine their glitter party was off.  He had been winning this year, he would be too disappointed, if there was no glitter party to look forward to.  He loved delving his hands into the 16oz bag of 'standard metalflake' and mushing it, pulling out his hands looking like a 1980's version of the ruby slippers.  There was no box of glitter, though, it wasn't as though Sebastian could just call and order another one, the company would have to send it special delivery, to have it here in time for the end of tomorrow's race.

Why couldn't he?  His bank account wouldn't even notice the drain.  Even with special delivery fees.

He picked up his cell and started dialing.  While he was at it, he would order a case of white glitter for Jaamies.

As a matter of fact...

Mark-

He wasn't on the platform, so he went back to the Redbull stall with Rabbit.  They'd been milling around the room for several minutes, going over the race and cooling down, when he noticed the boxes.  They were sitting under the massage table.  There was a piece of Redbull stationary taped to one.  

I hope you had a good race.  Enjoy.

P.S. You can probably guess who the other box is for.

This was Sebastian's handwriting.

He looked at the box.

[What does it tell you?] Rabbit gestured.

The shipping label said 'Limited Slip Glitter Co. ALS Pack Colour- Navy' [It doesn't tell me anything.]  He opened the box.  It was full of bags of glitter.

[WOW!] Rabbit waved hugely.  He grabbed a bag of balloon shaped glitter off the top.  [Thanks, Mark!]

[It's one of Sebastian's glitter parties...He sent you glitter.]  This was pretty incredible.  He usually only got Sunshine one box.

Then Mark noticed the label on the other box was a little different. 'Limited Slip Glitter Co. ALS Pack Colour- Turquoise'  He opened the other box, just enough to confirm his suspicion.  It was filled with glitter, bright blue glitter.

[Can we play with it?]  Rabbit examined the tiny shapes through the clear plastic bag they were in.

[Yeah, just, call Alondra and ask him if he wants to come over, first.]  He tilted the box so Rabbit could see that it was filled with his best friend's colour.

[WOW!  Sebastian is so great.  I love him.]

If Mark had known all it would take was...400$ worth of glitter, he'd have solved this rivalry long ago.

Toro Rosso

When Jean-Eric first opened the blox and saw the green glitter, he thought it was a joke, or a threat or...but the Dans had each received a box as well, and he had determined that neither of THEIR Racing Drivers had awoken Saturday sticky with glitter.  Subtle questioning of Jev had convinced Jean-Eric that he had been sprung by the Grand Tour stallions again.  A tiny fleck of red on Max Chilton's cheek Saturday morning confirmed that it had been a Grand Tour exploit.  It made him feel both proud and worried the way the Grand Tour sought to include Jev.  He shared a bloodline with Trace, so he supposed it made sense that they extended that care to him.

Now, though there were these boxes of glitter.  For a glitter party.  Daniel said the handwriting on the note was Sebastian's, and Jean-Eric had to laugh, because he couldn't think of another person who would consider an immense amount of sparkles to be an appropriate base for a party.  The 3 men and 3 Racing Drivers, and 3 boxes of glitter, two green and one navy, made for one hell of a fun time.  And one hell of a mess.

Blue and Gold

"So come on over."  Jensen tossed the bag of turquoise glitter with the hand not holding his phone and caught it again.  "Yeah.  My teammate went to have his glitter party with yours, so we'll just swap.  I've got a great bottle of scotch I'm not supposed to admit to having."

Sugarboy sprinkled glitter in Jensen's hair.

"Well, carry the box with you.  There's two of you.  Blue and Gold.  We'll look like a secondary school graduation.  Oh, and Esteban...do you have any glue?"

Mercedes

Greys are organized, someone had once told Lewis.  He believed it, now.  With no prompting whatsoever, the two Racing Drivers had set up a table, cups full of glitter and established rules about not getting glitter in the glue pot.  Now the four of them were sitting around the folding card table, playing glitter.

[Please pass the glue,] Prince gestured, smiling at him with her beautiful smile.

[Here you are, Princess,] Lewis gestured fondly.  He handed her the pot.

She gently tapped the strip of paper she'd applied the glue to into the bowl of glitter, creating a nice, even layer.  Both their boxes contained silver glitter.  She added a dot of glue to one end of the strip and pressed it into a circle around the hat band of the fedora.

Snap was fidding with the paper beads he was making by rolling strips of paper into various tube shapes and gluing them in place.  He was coating them neatly with glitter and stringing them one by one.

[I need more glitter,] Nico gestured, looking under the table.  [Is there any sparkle dust left?]

[There is some in our box,] Lewis told him.  [Help yourself.]

Nico poured another dose of silver dust into his plate and resumed rolling his replica World Drivers Championship trophy in it.

Lewis felt jealous that Nico's WDC trophy looked more realistic than his.  He painted on another layer of glue.

[Your trophy if fancier than mine,] Nico told him, without looking up.  [Mine looks so plain.]

[I made it for you,] Lewis said, suddenly.  Prince put her hat down and looked at him.  Snap ignored him and kept fiddling with his paper beads.

Nico looked shocked.

[Great minds think alike,] Prince gestured.  [Here my love.]  She held the hat in both hands, over the table towards Snap.

Nico reached out reverently and accepted the lovely trophy Lewis had constructed out of poster paper.

Snap put his hat on.  [Look how stylish I look!]  He went back to adding paper beads to his chain.

Prince turned and smiled at Nico beside her, clutching his trophy.

[I made this one for you, actually,] he nodded his head towards to the trophy he'd discarded on the table when Lewis handed him his gift.

Lewis picked it up and tried to look less impressed than he was.  It was so perfect.

[Alright,]  Snap looked up from his paper beads.  He stood and went around the table.  He stood behind Prince, stooped, and gently clipped the chain necklace with it's paper beads glittering like silver diamonds around her neck.  He kissed behind her ear.  [You are more beautiful than any trophy, darling.]  The two nuzzled.

Lewis smiled down at his trophy.  Adorable.

Kimi and Jaamies

They had to go to Sunshine's stall separately.  They were too easily spotted if they were together.  Jaamies had gone a few minutes before.  Kimi walked in and 3 eager faces were smiling at him.  "Ha?"  Jaamies and Sunshine were standing shoulder to shoulder, leaning against the massage table and Sebastian was crouched over two open boxes.

"Welcome to the Glitter Party!" Sebastian handed him a bag of white metal flakes.  It was about the size of a shoebox.

Kimi looked at Sunshine, whose hands were red coated to the wrist, and Jaamies' clothes had smears of sparkles all over them.  There was a patch of glitter on his neck and up into his hair.  Sunshine waved at him.  Like a disco ball.

He squeezed the bag of flakes.  This is what...

Sebastian flung a handful of red glitter into the air.  It rained around them like snow in the night.  Kimi tried to duck away before it got in his hair.  He'd had a girlfriend who was into the body glitter fad, it took forever to get rid of the stuff.

Sunshine and Jaamies laughed in delight, took handsful of the stuff and followed Seb's example.

"Who will clean this?!" Kimi demanded.

"I pay the cleaning lady an extra 500$."  Sebastian shouted, as Sunshine turned on the stereo and a booming beat started.  "She says she's cleaned worse."

Kimi rolled his eyes.  Jaamies was sprinkling white glitter over a red circle on the floor, creating the M pattern that was on their helmet.  He leaned over and looked in the box and let out a surprised little rev.  He pulled out a bag and tossed it to Kimi.

It was tiny balloon shaped glitter.  Hey, he never knew glitter came in shapes. That was actually pretty cool.

Kimi smiled.

[vro0m]

vro0m’s rewatch - 48/288

2009 Italian GP

Recap + GIFs (yes there are GIFs this time)

Ahhh it’s crashgate time! I touched on this when I wrote the recap for that race but let me take you back.

Singapore 2008. Alonso is fast in his Renault but 16th on the grid because of an engine problem in quali. At the beginning of the race, he’s carrying little fuel because the team hoped for a Safety Car, which did happen in the person of teammate Piquet who crashed right after Alonso refuelled, while nobody else had made their stop yet. So Alonso got the lead and won.

Fast forward to the 2009 summer break : Piquet gets sacked after the Hungarian GP. 4 days later, he goes to the FIA saying he crashed deliberately in Singapore, as ordered by his chief engineer and Flavio Briatore. Who both deny it, of course. Piquet says he did it to increase the chances the team would keep him. Alonso claims he didn’t know anything about that.

So the FIA will meet to review the evidence but Piquet’s sworn statement has leaked already. Renault has started legal proceedings against him for false allegations and trying to blackmail them. Lol. So Jake says he talked to Mosley about it who emphasised the importance of the integrity of Formula 1. First of all, Mosley was found engaging in s*domasochists acts with pr*stitutes in n*zi uniforms last season, and second of all, look where we’re at with the integrity in 2022. Bullshit. Anyway.

Quali report : Fisichella is driving for Ferrari now? He’s 14th while he was on pole in his Force India last GP lol. Liuzzi is replacing him in his former team then, and is 7th on the grid. Ironic af. Sutil is 2nd btw. Oh. Both BMW’s engines blew up within 2 minutes of each other and they were both new and had the same mileage and seem to have had the same failure. That’s not good. Webber is 10th, Barrichello 5th, Jenson 6th, Raikkonen 3rd, Kovalainen 4th. AND LEWIS IS ON POLE! He says the best strategy here is a one-stop one but it depends on the fuel load, how you manage the tyres etc.

Look how calm and confident this man looks, it’s heartwarming.

However he is NOT on a one-stop strategy, unlike all the others including Kovalainen, which makes me nervous because why. Also fun fact : 6 out of the 7 first cars on the grid have a Mercedes engine.

Formation lap.

And they’re racing!

Mmmh, that wasn’t a great start for Lewis, he almost got overtaken even though he has KERS? It’s okay after the first corner though. Webber is beached and Jenson overtook Kovalainen. The Force Indias are so quick in the straights it looks unreal. Heikki is really struggling even though people thought he had the best chances of winning. Lewis is setting fastest lap after fastest lap.

He pits for a first time on lap 14, and is back out in 5th. It was earlier than projected. The tyres were badly grained. He’s now on hard tyres though so maybe it’ll be better. There’s a bunch of DNFs too : Webber, Alguersuari, Kubica, Rosberg... Now Liuzzi is also out. Meanwhile McLaren tells Lewis he has to go faster to beat the Brawns.

We’re halfway through, the one-stoppers are pitting. Barrichello first, from the lead. Lewis is in front now, by 5 seconds, which isn’t much given he has to make a second stop. Yeah I don’t think this is gonna work out.

He stops with 19 laps to go, yeah, he’s behind. That strategy was a bad idea. He’s 5th. It’s all about the racing now, then.

15 laps to go, Barrichello - Button - Lewis. He’s only 2.4 seconds behind Jenson. 1.8 seconds. 8 laps to go. Come on. 5 laps to go. NO HE SPUN ON THE LAST LAAAAAP WHYYYY. Safety Car. He’s done.

It’s the end of the race.

Barrichello wins from teammate Jenson, Raikkonen in a surprise P3. Lewis 12th.

Asked about the shunt, he says he’s built like a rock so he’s all good.

“Were you pushing hard? It looks like you were pushing hard.” He answers : “every lap I was pushing like qualifying laps”.

He says they didn’t have the pace, but hum... He did though. He was making fastest laps, remember? And he was on pole. The strategy was shit and then he spun while trying to make up for it, is what happened.

He says he’s sorry to the team and he did all he could. He also apologies to his fans and sends love to his family. The journalist asks how the progress with the car is going now. He says the car is much better and it was still good today, just not good enough. But they have upgrades coming and hopefully it’ll give them an edge for the end of the season. “Maybe I won’t have to push 130%, maybe I can push 110%.”

[torentialtribute]

Lewis Hamilton bites back at suggestions he is less British because he lives in Monaco

& I proudly lift the British flag. There is no one else in this sport who raised it so highly & # 39 ;: Lewis Hamilton bites back on suggestions that he is less British because he lives in Monaco

By Philip Duncan, Press Association Sport F1 Correspondent

Published: 18:08 BST, July 13, 2019 | Lewis Hamilton defended his Britishness on the eve of the world champion's home race.

Hamilton will start the British Grand Prix behind Valtteri Bottas after his Mercedes teammate beat him more than 3.7 kilometers from the Silverstone circuit at pole position in just six thousandths of a second.

Hamilton made an uncharacteristic error in his first shot on the post and temporarily lost control of his car through left-handed Brooklands.

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He tried to make it right in his last attempt, but was painfully short. Ferrari & # 39; s Charles Leclerc is in third place and his teammate Sebastian Vettel starts in sixth.

The Red Bull duo of Max Verstappen and Pierre Gasly finished in fourth and fifth place respectively. The British teenager Lando Norris is eighth. Hamilton enjoys remarkable support at Silverstone. A record audience of more than 140,000 hope to overthrow his teammate on Sunday.

But Hamilton's relationship with the wider British public is not as partial as it could be for a five-time world champion to become the most successful Formula 1 driver ever

You have to talk about how you like to come back to the UK but there is a fight because people say you live in Monaco and your accent is not British, & # 39; the reporter told Hamilton after qualifying. & # 39; Why do you think people are questioning your Britishness? & # 39;

& # 39; It is crazy because I can remember growing up and looking at Jenson Button and all the young pigeons that came and they all migrated to Monaco, & # 39; said Hamilton. & # 39; No one has ever said anything.

& # 39; But no matter how often you go abroad or elsewhere in the world, you come back to the UK, see the countryside, this great history of Formula First, and I see my family. This is where my heart is. I am completely British.

& # 39; I suspect that after a while I will do more positive things for the country. I am going to these races and I proudly lift the British flag. There is no one else in this sport who has made it that high.

I have five world titles and they did not eat alone. I do what I want and I don't do what you think I should do. Only I know what is good for me and that has led me to five world championships. While Hamilton nudged in the press conference, his father Anthony defended his son in the cold and heady paddock of Silverstone.

] Anthony, dumped by Lewis as his manager in 2010, recently revealed that the couple did not speak for two years. But almost a decade later, their relationship has been restored.

World. Put Hamilton and Verstappen in identical machines, and the latter would have the upper hand, the Red Bull boss said.

& # 39; As a main team, I thought your first job was to join your team in the front & # 39; Anthony told Sky Sports

& I am sure Christian was in Canada last month and I don't think there was a better driver than Lewis. We made a mistake for young Sebastian and caused a lot of turmoil. That was a hellish ride.

& # 39; Max is a great driver and one for the future, but a mouthful doesn't make a meal?

Indeed, despite his grid slot, Hamilton will start as the favorite to surpass Jim Clark and Alain Prost by winning the British race for a sixth time, claiming his 80th career victory.

Hamilton added: & # 39; I wasn't good enough today, but it's a long race tomorrow. Hopefully I can do something special.

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Interesting how all team LH could say about Schumi was "how bad he was, he lost to Nico" at Merc when Schumi had been retired for four years when he took the Merc seat, the regulation changed so ofc it took him a while to adapt to it, he wasn't racing to win championships he was racing because he enjoyed it and knew his name would help the team find stability and sponsors (it was still run by Brawn at this point who worked with Michael since literally the Benetton days, his beginning in the sport and who had followed him to Ferrari and who he was friends with. Brawn GP as it was known the year before in '09 literally didn't think it would survive the year until Jenson won them the championship. Michael was a very generous person who cares deeply about helping those closest to him), the team was literally a midfield team until 2013/14, Nico was the young upcoming driver in his prime who could adjust to regulations better because he'd been eased into it...

What do they say now about LH himself struggling to keep up with the new regulations and his young upcoming teammate in a midfield Merc? Lewis lost to Nico too like 2016 happened and if Nico hadn't had the sheer amount of pure bad luck during most of his years at Merc, it might be a different story.

People deadass were like "Michael's overrated he never had a wdc teammate Lewis did ergo Lewis better because he beat them" forgetting one of Michael's first teammates was 3x wdc Piquet *facepalms*, 2016 literally happened (& Bottas no offense to him isn't a wdc capable driver. He's good for the team game and he's doing well at Alfa but it was no competition between him and Lewis and given the vast difference between the mercs and the rest of the grid, he was the only one who could hypothetically beat Lewis and he never did and Bottas was Lewis' teammate for the majority of Lewis' championship winning seasons), Button beat Lewis during one of their seasons together and Alonso was teammates with Lewis at McLaren for literally a single year and Alonso was hated by the team principal (feeling was mutual) and Lewis was the golden boy so ofc the team decisions benefitted LH lmao (little changed with move to Merc 💀). Also the sheer lack of respect for the incredible drivers who never got a wdc pisses me off, especially in regards to Barrichello. But it's nice the universe is shoving humble pie in the face of team LH truly beautiful.

Anyone who says Michael is overrated knows absolutely nothing istg that is a joke to say and I hope to fuck I never see that.

But your point is valid....Lewis only ever had Nico and Max to really compete with over a season and look how it ended. I am not saying that Lewis had it easy but....he never had to challenge his teammate after 2016.

Also lol yeah ngl I am gonna be petty and laugh at the vibes at Merc the last 2 races because it is humble pie 100%