#and her comparisons with neith (mother of mothers and father of fathers.)
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athena as patron of butches and he/him women
(a joke, but also so completely serious)
#the book im reading abt her has talked about her gender a lot and i think used the phrase 'masculine femininity' once ?#and her comparisons with neith (mother of mothers and father of fathers.)#and her escorting herakles to olympos in a way that mirrors a groom taking his bride home. and athena is the groom and herakles is the brid#its all so gender. says me (a he/him woman)#spritext#hellenic tag
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Some syncretism bullshit comparisons* bumping around in my brain whom I must write down to make room in there, though further research and probably many corrections are still in order:
Ra and Osiris > Indo European creation gods (Horus as the warrior would make sense, Set unclear if this is the comparison we go with), maybe similar to the mycenaean conception of Zeus/Poseidon (who back when was also the underworld deity)
Osiris Set and Horus > Cain, Abel, Seth (hilariously, Horus is Seth, not Set), proto Indo European twin gods and warrior
Osiris > Hades (you cannot take this from me idc if the Greco Roman Egyptians didn't roll with it) and Dionysus (on Earth, this also makes for a Horus and Dionysus connection), and, I'm gonna say it based on comparisons in antiquity of Isis and Demeter, Persephone. Also Hel (regarding early conceptions of a dreary but mostly neutral afterlife for most people who weren't a king or elites). See also Proto Indo European Manu. Husband of Innana/Ishtar (who apparently the greeks placed between Persephone and Aphrodite which would track with the myth of Osiris fathering Anubis with Nephthys and his being a god who must spend time in the underworld)
Set > Loki, Proto Indo European Yemo, Typhon (I guess?) and, getting crazy here, ancient/archaic conceptions of Eros (it's the vigorous coition), Ares
Isis > Demeter (makes things be alive?) possibly Hestia, maybe aspects of early Despoina/Persephone (yes I realize this seems contradictory) though I'm gonna be honest I don't think I've come across a good comparison for her anywhere, you could imo also argue elements of Hera and Frigg or Freya, but I think she also could be called a rare example of a trickster goddess/a check on and director of divine willpower which is why she maps onto tons of other kemetic deities (an eye of Ra for ex), also any mother of god archetype like Mary (which I realize is odd when I just compared Osiris and Set to Eve's sons but fuck it, mother of god who is also your ticket to the afterlife/salvation, it tracks), maybe even SOME elements of Hermes (who is incidentally somewhat akin to elements of Loki which brings me back to my fringe tinfoil trickster thing again), Innana/Ishtar (who I guess brings us around to Aphrodite!?) with echoes of Neith she shares with her sister
Nephthys > Hecate (cares for shades entering the underworld/afterlife, associated with Isis and therefore some degree of magic or proximity to it, and Isis and Osiris do hold traits also present in Hades and Persephone though not necessarily in that order), Ishtar's husband's sister Geshtinanna, echoes of Neith
Osirs, Set, Isis, and Nephthys re: each other > Isis and Set feel like counterbalances to each other to me (he is basically raw power and Isis is legendary for holding the power of Ra's name, some generational repeating themes there maybe?) while Isis and Nephthys are extremely complimentary to the point where I'd look at them as a unit/two sides of one coin/two modes of being for a same force, which would suggest the same of Osiris (Osiris-Horus? I'm making that up but you know what I mean) and Set, two sides of kingship and complex and ergo heirarchal civilization
Nut > Nyx
*In my head gods are the faces humans can even begin to comprehend for all but unknowable infinite 4 dimensional tessellations of the many natures, laws, forces, and patterns of the universe so I'm pretty open to the idea that any given deity can be reflected many times in many others and vis versa. mythological chronology and circumstances don't have to be perfect matches for me to consider them comparisons worth noting.
This is my personal take and I'd love to discuss all of this with the understanding that this is just my worldview that helps my puny human mind conceive of these things and it is therefore equivalent to a theoretical framework of choice, I'm going to default to it but that does not mean I think all other views are incorrect--this is just the conception that I'm starting from.
#syncretism#paganism#kemetic paganism#comparative mythology#polytheism#Osiris#Isis#Auset#Nephthys#Set#Persephone#Hades
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for the Mc asks 9 and 10 (ノ^ヮ^)ノ*:・゚✧
9. Family personal dynamics
It's the 80s Britain, are they typical for their group or do they go against the grain?
I would say they go against the grain, but I don't really know. They have a very long history of being knights and nobles. They're Pure- bloods but they don't act highly or suppressive. They more humble than they seem. Less the 80s, they resemble more a Victorian family in term of fashion and ect. Uriels family has many traditions and secrets, but her parents think children should live peacefully and freely without worrying about their status or duties as future heirs/heiress. They live the life of nobles but with the attitude of an ordinary person.
Are parents important for your mc?
They very important for Uriel. After turning into an obscurial and the summer incident at her grandparents residence, she became soulless and bitter. It's only thanks to the love of her family, that she slowly recovered from being an obscurial, even if it took more than 10 years. Uriel admires her parents they both strong and wise. Especially her father. He thought her how to fight with a sword, so she can protect herself in case of danger. In comparison to her mother, her father isn't very overprotective of Uriel because he knows that she is strong and trust her.
How do they deal with Jacob debacle?
When they learned about Jacob's disappearance, her mother cried for days before accepting the truth. Her father didn't show many emotions but Uriel knew by the way he acted, that he was heartbroken, too. They both do their best to find him with the help of their connections around the world. They don't only want to find him because he is their son but also to stop Uriel from searching the vaults, so she won't get hurt, too. The other reason is to bring Max back. It's not like he left them but he started to travel a lot, not only because he is a photographer but also to find Jacob on the way. He asks many people he met, if they saw this boy but until now he wasn't successful.
Any eccentric family members?
The whole Nightclaw family is eccentric, like really. I already mentioned it but the Nightclaw family has many secrets and treasures. And know what? They keep these secrets and treasures in a floating tower. Crazy, right? But it gets more crazier.
The floating tower is surrounded by enormous mountains, so it's hard to notice it at first. It's unknown who build it or when but it keeps track since Ulric Whiteclaws death. It floats thanks to the magical stone on the tip of the tower. Around the tower, there are the three sisters statues: Bast, Neith, Tellervo.
The only one who can go over the bridge is only the holder of the Nightclaw blood, this means only family members can pass it. If an outsider tries to even make a step in direction of the gate, then a Manticore will try to kill them or they will fall into their death. One way or the other, they won't leave alive.
Inside the tower it's like a big library with many different rooms and books, as well as treasures and heirlooms.
The core of the tower is the gigantic dragon maiden (upper right), Naimmi, who is bound to the tree of truth. She controls everything that goes on in the tower. The rooms and everything else in the tower is patrolled and protected by the Wyrm guards (bottom left). Jamos (upper left) is responsible for the memories and rooms for each Nightclaw. He also controls the Manticore and the wyrm guards. The three silent brothers are keeping the sword of Ulric safe and the last bit of blood of the Dragon Dragoon. To make a pact with the dragon, like Ulric did, you have to drink their blood and make an oath. That's why they keep it safe. Only the most important and valuable things are kept safe by the three silent brothers.
But if we look at Uriels parents in details you will see that they're very special themselves. Uriels mother can use spells without actually speaking them, which was passed on to Uriel and Max. Jacob can't do it, but for that he is a legilimens like his father. The Moonfalls are known for their eternal youth. Briar is already in here late forties but looks like thirty. In comparison the Nightclaws are known for their inhuman strength and magical power. Jacob got immense magical power, while Max has the inhuman strength. Uriel has both. The same goes to other family members. Each one is special in their way.
International ties?
They are longtime allies and friends with the Chinese family Chen. It dates back to Ulrics time. The past King wanted to make a contract with the influential and wealthy Chinese Pirate Chen Bao, who was known as the emperor of the Oceans. In case of an upcoming war, he wanted to have him as an ally. But when Bao arrived, he sensed Ulrics immense power and was tempted to fight him. He gave the promise, that if Ulric wins, he will sign the contract but if Bao wins, Ulric shall give his little finger as a trophy. It is said that the fight lasted 100 days but to confirm it, there is insufficient evidence.
In the end Ulric won and Bao signed the contract. But what was unexpected is, that Bao swore his true loyalty to Ulric alone. He was impressed with Ulrics strength and developed respect for him. They both made later on a blood pact, which was never broken. Since then both families share a deep relationship with each other. With Uriels birth, they decided to continue their ancestors legacy and introduced her to their son Chen Jing, when Uriel turned 9.
(Left: Jing at 17/upper right: Uriel and Jing at 9 years old/ bottom right: blood vial)
They started of rocky at first but after they ran away from the ballroom because they were both bored, they quickly befriended each other. When Jing came to Hogwarts for one year at the age of 17, he and Uriel decided to make a blood pact like their ancestors, too. They were sure that they could trust each other.
The symbol of the Chen family is a Phoenix.
10. The family vs the others
Are they part of any community, do they have any support re:Jacob ?
They not part of any community because the Nightclaws are a secretive family. But they do have connections all over the world, so they get lots of help from others.
How do you imagine them to be seen by others?
The Nightclaw family is a famous one, especially for their knight history. Everyone treats them with respect and fearfulness. Their strength is all over the place known. But under their respectful survey they actually think that this family is crazy. Under the people their called "those who are born to kill". This implies to one point of the history, where Ulric fought against 1000 enemies single handed in a fit of rage and won.
But those who learn their kindness and earns their trust, can be sure to have won an ally for a lifetime.
I hope I answered them right and thank you for asking 🙈❤
#harry potter hogwarts mystery#hogwarts mystery#hphm#digital drawing#hphm mc#my art#uriel nightclaw#jacob's sibling#digital art#hphm jacob#max nightclaw#past#backstory#facts#ask#history
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Ah, there it was, they could smell the city’s filth...they had legions out already... good.
They stand at the back, half the group’s gazes lost somewhere, missing, saddening sight that denoted perhaps another little battle, slowly getting lost.. A foot after another, they begin to walk, each gesturing to each legion they hold for their forces to march. Horns run back and forth from the city, a cry or warn, a cry for seeking safety.
Their soldiers hasten their pace, so do they, weapons at the ready. The steadiness and rything of feets and armor soon begin to lose, unrelenting cymbals and loud drums of metal and flesh, deafening all to their ears. Their magic join, together again...
“ You... we had a fucking deal! “
“ You dare disobey me?! “
“ Fuck you, more than half the city burns, aren’t you satisfied enough, you stupid idiot? The castle already burns, you sent those on purpose! “
“ So what if I did? I brought too them a fair reason to desist, and if you hadn’t interfered, I would’ve had them leave the message I had intended. “
“ Your message cost us, you idiot! We can’t afford to find ourselves be more swayed towards violence. Look at what you just did! Look at what you had me do! I had to knock them two, because they were unresponsive to what you just pulled off, because you dragged them into a fucking slaughter! “
“ Don’t you dare to tell me you wouldn’t have done it, because you have done so to an army on less stellar of ways! “
“ I would, yes! But not to the scale you had done, I would drag them to something they could handle, this clearly was not it, none of us, that was why we brought men, to lessen the damn blood on our hands! “
“ We’ll have to do the same at the academy, and then back to our lands, you think there won’t be armies rising? You’ll think they’ll just lay down like some well behaved dogs? No, we’ll have to cull the remaining resistance, and it won’t be small. This is but a small thing in comparison... “
“ We’re supposed to make it to somehow keep them all from dying, HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO IF WE LET OURSELVES BE SWAYED?? HELL RIGHT NOW BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF YOU ISN’T ENOUGH, I REALLY WANT TO FUCKING RIP YOUR THROAT OUT FOR THIS ONE!! “
“ that is enough... “
“ !!! “
“ !!! “
Blinding pain earns both the ground as two snakes coil around their ankles, eyes turning towards the bleeding face of a mage, eyes somewhat open, but clearly still trying to bring her back from being out.
The next thing that follows is both seeing a pair of familiar circle spells, of a yellow tone. They curse, unable to move, before they know it their strenght quickly wanes to the venting of their magic against their will. Oh how they hated that trick... What follows then is the tackling of both, one by Thannor and the other by Braigon, delivering what would be karma to one, and a sensible action to the other by knocking both with similar punches, taking away weapons and placing a object locked spell over both, the same one just used to release any building magic until seen they were fit to have it back...
“ Well... God must really hate us... “
“ Please don’t... humor is not what we need... “
“ What we need is tie each to a log, and talk with them. “
“ A good idea, when we go back to the camp, any deserters? “
“ We’ll know at the camp, someone send in the signal to regroup. “
“ Oh, thanks for knock the uncalled fucking, you temporal gave me contusion. “
“ We couldn’t afford a damn fight breakin ‘ere, so we did as needed. “
“ Traitorous assholes... “
“ Oh, fuck me sideways, you both are- “
Another punch, Rhowën frowns to Thannor, shaking off the grip.
“ You, spoiled idiotic brat of a prince, did you know what the hell’s been going around? Because I guess from your state of mind, you clearly don’t, so let me give you a moment to knocking it. “ The judge says, grabbing the gamberson and opening his hand, before giving a slap after slap. “ You just fucking slaughtered innocents, fucking innocents. Mother, daughters, babies. Dragged us to it. Weeks after some of us broke down by this whole ordeal, And you acting as far from the person we’ve pledged loyalty to as you could be “
“ Rho, you’re starting to do the same as them... “
“ Like if I will let myself get to that fucking point right now, I had no intentions to get fucking decked, Braigon. “ He hisses, then turns back to both the noble and prince. “ Neithe of you were fucking there, but I was, and I heard sister wail her ass as she fucking drank, then began to give off hand comentary that disolved into self loathing rants over herself and the cheer fucking helplessness she felt, how she fucking howled, and I say fucking howled, over her prince going madder by the months, hell, the weeks, how brother had hardly gotten better, hell she even said you may have fucking gone backwards all over again Agar. She went on fucking rants saying how worthless her existance was as she took bottle after bottle, choked down the vomit trying to leave her, and kept getting drunker and drunker over the course of a pair of hours, hell, you didn’t get worried she would throw a damn bottle and try to kill herself with a god damn shard! “
“ Rho... “
“ NO, I AM GOING TO SPEAK MY MIND TO PUT THE PAIR OF IDIOTS INTO PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE GOD DAMN IT SOMEONE HAS TO, AND GILRIN JUST LEFT TO GET HER DAMN PIECE OF MIND LIKELY ON ANOTHER ROUND OF DRUNKEN MISERY RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE SHE COULDN’T EVEN MUSTER A LOOK TO YOU BOTH RIGHT NOW. “ The judge shouted. “ SHE FUCKING LEFT, LIKELY TO SEE IF SHE COULD FUCKING STEAL SOME DAMN BOTTLES BECAUSE WE DIDN’T HAD ANY, BECAUSE I FUCKING KNEW IF WE BROUGHT MORE SHE’D GO STRAIGHT TO THEM AGAIN BECAUSE HEY, SHE FUCKING LOATHES SLAUGHTERS, AND SHE FUCKING HATES HERSELF FOR AGREEING TO PARTAKEIN THEM, AND HEY, GUESS WHAT? WE OVERDID ONE AND YOU BOTH JUST AGAIN SHOVED UP A “MY FEARS ARE RIGHT” RIGHT DOWN HER THROAT, FUCKING REALLY? AT LEAST I AM TRYING TO LEARN MY DAMN FUCKING LESSON, BUT YOU BOTH TAKE THE FUCKING CAKE!!! “
“ RHOWËN. “
“ AT LEAST I AM TRYING TO FUCKING WATCH MYSELF, BUT YOU, YOU GUYS WANT TO FUCKING MAKE THIS SHIT RIGHT OR NOT? WHAT THE HELL DO YOU TWO WANT FROM US ALL? TO FAIL? BECAUSE SUDDENLY SLAUGHTERING A CITY AND THEN TRYING TO BEAT EACH OTHER SENSELESS IS A GOOD WAY TO GET US TO DO THAT. ONE IT FUCKING SCREWS UP WITH OUR TENDENCY TO ACTUALLY NOT GO TOWARDS VIOLENCE AND DO THE RIGHT DECISIONS; AND FUCKING TWO: IT BREAKS THE UNITY WE DAMN NEED TO KEEP IF WE WANT TO PULL THIS ONE THROUGH YOU FRUSTRATION PAIR OF- “
“ RHOWËN, now. “
“ ... “
“ Fine, I’ll go steam off again... “
The judge stomps his way, both general and smith sighing as they rub their faces. A rather unusua sight to see, for once the hot headed person wasn’t Thannor, Thanneth was just a few feets silent, watching with a rather flat look to her face as he turned away, somewhere while doing so letting grasp a glimpse of worry. Both prince and noble turn and lower their heads, their own heated thoughts blinding most of the spoken things... yet still showing some of it having nagged at both...
“ You both know he’s worried, don’t you two?. “
...
“ His prince is behaving more like his father, forcing people he’s claimed to care about unto horrendous acts, and hurting innocents as he does. trapped too deep in his own thoughts, by his own feelings almost beyond reason... if such isn’t already. With only seemingly the drive to cause harm, to his own people none the less, and the drive to see all he’s fought for burn too... “ He pauses. “ His sister is breaking at be back of us all, developing a bad habit for which she’s enganged in multiple arguments with someone, to cope with what has been going on these past months, Thanneth even has grown worried... Gilring has been drinking more often, and stronger drinks too... if she’s not smoking alone somewhere away, I would say I am impressed you managed that... “
“ Don’t you question my ledership now, General, I have every right to do as I so wish to with my kingdom, an you will comply. “
“ I don’t question your leadership, young man, that is beyond question and it is going into the field of judging and making critics on it. And sadly, I can no longer do different thanks to you, can’t I? “ He gives a stern stare before turning around to take a seat. “ Yes, you will do as you wish, but for the moment? I will have you both calm down before you let your own emotions, and fresh deaths, blind your own reason and judgement again unto needless violence... “
“ Needless?! HE DISOBEYED DIRECT ORDERS. “
“ Because you slaughtered people, and from what I head people you promised to relatively let go unscathered, a reasonable justification to act as he did. And you also approached towards him in an offensive pose as well. “ He answers, tone grave and not unlike a father or uncle scolding a child. “ Pray tell, what were you thinking as he did? I’ve lived enough to see men turn against others in blind rage, was it to hurt, or to murder for treason? “
“ You DARE... “
“ Yes, I do, you both are acting like petulant children, you more so than Agar. I am honestly frustrated, I did not spend years of my live training, living and helping grow a noble and a prince for this to happen. I do not know what goes around each other’s head entirely, but whatever it is, it is NOT enough to justify what has been going on, and how is had gone so... “ He sighs, a rumble on his throat clearing the annoying mucus, a still annoying left over from the excess of ash and smoke. of a few days before. “ Do tell me, am I wrong? And if so, do clear the interrogants, for I simply can’t understand what you both could think or go through to do these kind of things... “
...
Silence it is then, isn’t it?
“ Well then, have it your ways children, if you ever feel like talking, just mutter a word, I will be meditating the poison away from my mind... “
#|ic|#|their seven greatest|#|carpe fatum|#[ you think this can't get worse#but heeeeeeeeey guess there is a second part
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