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felteverywhere · 2 years ago
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dove had been doing her best to keep to herself, though she'd never been all that good at resisting the promise of excitement that was a party. it didn't seem fair, anyway, to leave them to autumn just because she thrived in them. dove loved attention too, but for the time being she was looking from an escape from the four walls of her bedroom more than anything else. she certainly hadn't expected to be joined by the one person she wasn't enthused to see, so maybe she'd let the other girl be the one to speak first. dove stared down at her converse for a moment, before taking a long sip of the drink she'd been nursing. "since when do you wanna talk to me?" she replied, maybe a little bit more bitter than was necessary. finally, she turned to peer at her, offering a lousy attempt at a normal question. "how's your summer going?"
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the party was still in full swing behind them, loud music blaring and laughter ringing out in the distance. usually she’d be amongst the group of people. autumn was known to be the life of the party but tonight she wasn’t feeling it, hence her breaking away and going off to a secluded part of the beach. she didn’t know how she ended sitting next to the one person she’d been avoiding all summer. she peered over to them for the umpteenth time, deciding to finally break the ice. “soooo are you going to talk to me or are we gonna just sit here in silence all night?”
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igotanidea · 2 years ago
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Rom-com, doubts and older brother complex : Dick Grayson x sister!reader
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„Hey you, how was the movie?” Dick grinned with the brightest smile upon seeing his sister back from the cinema. Said sister however was far from being happy. “Y/N?”
“Yes? I mean, yes, sure, hi Dickie. It was fine, I guess.”
“Oh no.” he muttered
“What?”
“You got that face.”
“What face?!” involuntarily she glanced at the mirror just to check whether her older brother was serious or just trying to prank her.
“Please tell me you are not psychoanalyzing the movie.”
“Psycho…..? What? Me? Pfff, never.” She scoffed
“Mhm. Sure.”
“I’m sorry, what is your problem here, Grayson?” Y/N crossed her arms over her chest in annoyance. “Honestly I came home hoping for some peace and quiet and I feel so attacked right now.”
“Are you doing this… what was it called….?” Dick scratched his head searching for the right word “watcher insert!”
“IT’S READER INSERT!”
“Well, it was a movie, so definitely watcher insert. And you practically admitted you do.”
“I DID NOT SAY A THING LIKE THAT!”
“You didn’t have to. Like I said, you got that face.” He shrugged, absolutely not convinced and unimpressed by her yelling.
“Ugh! You are insufferable!”
“Part of my charm, you know that. Now come on, come sit here and tell me what got you spinning, huh? As a big brother…..”
“Please, spare me the talk about oldest sibling and all the duties that come with it. I can handle my own shit.” She hesitantly perched on the armrest of the sofa, but Dick was not satisfied with that and grabbed her by the waist pulling next to him.
“Come on, sis, don’t be stubborn” he pinched her stomach getting a slap on the hand in exchange “that hurt.”
“Serves you well!”
“Ok, I’ll stop. Jokes aside. Get out of that head of yours and walk me through it ‘cause I don’t get it. You went to the movie theatre to have some fun ….unlike someone we know….. and came back stuck in thinking and, let me put it simply, melancholic. Not really a normal reaction after a young adult movie. It’s young adult, right?” he frowned
“You got that one right.” She sighed “I … I don’t really know. I mean, this movie was as cliché as possible and only confirm my belief that it’s not for me.”
“How come?”
“You know… nice girl, A-grade student, not knowing the bad side of life changes the surrounding, most likely moves out of the small town.  And in the city, she meets a guy, a well-known trouble-maker and more often than not, a womanizer. Of course, she swears she wants nothing to do with him but after an hour or so, couple of fights and few misunderstanding they end up together, most likely in a X-rated scene. And after another half hour, some family drama or demons from the past emerges, but all ends well and you get those fucking singing birds, shining sun, doves and all that shit. I’m so too old for that. And I think I’m starting to get bored with such films.”
“Are you?” he looked at her carefully, voice turning soft not to startle her.
“Yes.” She made a face at him
“Y/n. You say you hate it, but …”
“Don’t you dare say it!” she jumped on the couch and jabbed his chest “Don’t. You. Dare.”
“I won’t. I’ll leave that to you. Come on, say it out loud so we can process that. No one else is here.”
“I’m sorry, since when are you my therapist?”
“Since Bruce provided all his kids with trauma and forgot to equip them with the specialist to fix it. Say it.”
“I wish I have a cliché love story.” She looked down and hid face in hands because of the embarrassment. “But I’m not exactly a material for it.”
“Why not?” Dick asked, grabbing her hands and making him look at her ‘is it because you have four vigilante brothers? That can go well in a movie.” He grinned “I bet Bruce would love a cinematic work of art about himself. Can you imagine the movie “Batman?” Two and a half hours of him brooding on the screen and saving Gotham, all while looking like a sad, tormented cat” he laughed and waved his hands around
“I got this at the manor whenever I want. And when I don’t want as well. So hard pass on that movie, thanks. Jason would love it though. It would give him an opportunity to point out everything wrong with Bruce. And Tim…”
“Nice try, but stop getting off the track. Why do you think you can’t have a love story?”
“Cause I can’t define myself.”
“I’m sorry, what?” Dick’s eyes widened in disbelief “you think you need to put a tag on yourself? My lovely, crazy, irrational, foolish sister…”
“Look Dick, I’m a mess, all right? I can do hundred different things, but cannot excel in one. I start so many projects I don’t finish. I am disorganized, got plenty ideas per minute and it’s extremely hard to keep up with me. I'm stubborn, hot-headed and always need to do things my own way. ��
“So?” he shrugged
“What do you mean by so?" Y/N frowned "I don’t have routine, and apparently I’m supposed to. I’m not the best version of myself, I hate motivational quotes and I’m not sophisticated or elegant or even close to it. Shit, I hate dresses and skirts, my make-up is limited to the most basic one and I don't feel like I'm woman enough.”
“Ok, stop right there.” He cut her off “that last one is bullshit and as for the rest, why in the world would you think that eliminates you?”
“I… It just does.”
“Why?” he insisted
“will you stop this interrogation! Let me remind you, you are not a cop anymore!”
“Old habits die hard.” He blew a raspberry.
“Be a brother Dick. Sock me for wasting your time or hug me, just don’t do this….”
“Do you need a hug?” he asked opening his arms
“Yes, please” she mumbled, diving into his arms and hiding face in his shirt, smelling that familar scent. “This feels nice.”
“Told ya! Oldest brother. Now, since we are taking the comforting approach to the problem… all the things you mentioned are those what makes you, you. All right, pumpkin?” he bopped her nose “you could adopt someone else’s lifestyle, but would you feel better then? Doing all those things that does not seem like they are yours?”
“No…” she muttered
“See? You just keep doing your thing, ok? Cause when you do something that makes you happy, even if it seems like you’re a mess, you’re just glowing and that is what makes you special, you know.”
“Example?”
“You were writing, last night, and you had that focus and spark in your eyes. Nothing but you and your ideas, put in words on the sheet. You were just beaming. That was you. You don’t need to put  a tag on yourself, believe me. It's not a competition or anything.“
"Really?" she pulled back and eyed him, raising one eyebrow "'cause you are absolutely not the one who would join The Bachelor, right?"
"That's irrelevant..." as much as he did not like it, her words made him blush a bit. (did she find that application form he hid under the bed?!)
"Let's agree to disagree" she grinned "I'll importune you for explanation on that matter later. And since we're on the subject, what about....?"
“Do you think me the role model on relationship advice?” he smirked, but a bit of sadness crept in “I made a lot of mistakes and speaking from experience, I can tell you just can’t hurry that. Just keep your mind open?”
"Did you just admit defeat in the romance matter, Dickie?" she mocked.
"Romance? Hell no! Just long-term relation..."
"Don't worry, big brother" she his his shoulder playfully "you keep my secret safe, I keep yours. But still, that’s the worst advice I ever got.”
“Maybe…” he tickled her tummy making poor girl squeal “think Damian would have better one?”
“He’s younger than me, sure as hell I’m not gonna ask him!”
“I’m serious, sis. Once you figure out who you are inside, even if it’s a bit complicated and come to terms with it, everything will fall in place.”
“Still the worst advice ever, but thank you for trying, Dickhead.”
“Doing my best for my little princess.”
“Ugh! Stop calling me that name!”
“You used to like it.”
“I was 7 years old!!”
“All right, fine, hold the fire” Dick raised his hands in surrender “Gosh, for someone who got so much fire inside, you suffer from too little self-value.”
“Four vigilante brothers can do that to a girl.”
“Y/N? I need you to promise me one thing.”
“Shoot.”
“When you get in a relationship you will let me act like big protective brother.”
“You may have to wait a while, but sure, it that’s your dream…”
“How about I play that role in a Nightiwng suit?”
“OVER MY DEAD BODY GRAYSON!”
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mallowstep · 4 years ago
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What are your opinions on forbidden relationships in Warriors? I've seen people label it as a "trope" because of how common this is. Some find the forbidden romance aspect intriguing, though others find it extremely repetitive and old
I'd like to know your thoughts!
hm. well, it is a trope. i mean, there's an average of one major one a series, right? greysilver, leafcrow (and others, but that's the big one), heatherlion (and implied others), tigerdove, idk i don't remember anything from avos but violetshine luv her but there's probably something, bristleroot. dotc doesn't count bc well it's dotc.
anyway.
definitely a trope.
but that's not a bad thing.
what i think people don't give warriors enough credit for is that these are not all the same forbidden romance. most of them are handled in different ways and bring up different conflicts. i understand why people are tired of them, but let's not discredit one of the only good things in warriors romance: that they make forbidden relationships different.
like, with grey and silver, it's about loyalty and responsibility. leafcrow is just bad idea central, both heatherlion and tigerdove are about responsibilities and young cats, and they have two different answers, and bristleroot is challenging the whole idea from the start.
so like. give credit where credit is due: we're not doing the same (forbidden) relationships again and again. i don't see enough people talk about that.
okay so it turns out i have um. a lot of thoughts about this. idk i just kept writing and now it's over 2k words. so you know. under the cut: matthew does half-baked media analysis to talk about why the code and cats' relationships to it are misunderstood. while actually staying on topic.
anyway from here on i'm just going to say relationship/romance, and understand that i'm generally talking about the forbidden kind. also i'm talking exclusively within the realm of warriors romance, which is, on average, bad. so when i say "X is good," i don't mean "X is good in general," i mean "given what we have, X is good." just to be clear.
right! basically, this is a tool. it creates tension and drama, and that's fine. warriors is a soap opera, remember. soap operas use secrets and relationships and all sorts of plot devices over and over again. warriors is not Serious. it can be dark. it has serious moments. but it is not a Serious Book Series for Serious Kids. it is a soap opera for Future Theatre Kids. yeah?
from that perspective, i'm a-ok with forbidden romance. (also, as a mini-aside, it creates some much-needed genetic diversity when kits are involved.) and again: all of the major relationships are different, so i think that's better than a lot of people give it credit for.
yeah, heatherlion and greysilver and tigerdove are all about the same general idea (loyalty and responsibility), but they all have different circumstances and different resolutions.
so like? yeah. sure. why not?
plus, like, who's reading warriors for the romance? i separate the concept of "romance" from a "relationship" here: i like the relationships in warriors (ivy and dove tension my beloved), but i'm not here to read about tigerheart wooing dovewing. (yes, i do love the tigerdove scenes in oots. no, that's not because i think they're very good at being romantic.)
but i digress.
if warriors was a Serious Book Series for Serious Kids, i'd have a different take here. having been in an IRL forbidden relationship, i have the Personal Insight and Experience to say they're this weird mash of "very much how it feels" and "not at all how it feels."
tigerdove is probably my favourite bc it's the closest to my circumstances, and i think dovewing is a good pov. i like how she breaks up with him because it's a bad idea, but that's not the same thing as not feeling for him.
(heh. twelve-year-old me reading oots like "this will never apply to my life" what did you know)
but to the point, if warriors was serious, i'd point out that the consequences always seem to be internal. we haven't seen characters be punished for their actions. and so on.
but warriors is a soap opera.
and here's my actual thesis: we haven't seen characters be punished for their actions, because "forbidden relationships" are a normal and expected part of clan society.
like no, fandom-at-large, you're kind of missing the point. okay, you know how like. people complain about. idk. ivypool and fernsong being distantly related?
(third aside/very long ivyfern rant, i put a nice big "rant over" after it if you want to skip past it: they're third cousins. they share, max, 2.2% of their genetics. they are fine. do you know your third cousins? do you? yeah. and like. they live in a closed society. there is no one new.
i've never seen someone complain about forbidden romance and ivyfern at the same time, and i do generally agree we should have more mystery fathers, altho for a different reason, but like. idk. this bothers me.
their last shared relative was nutmeg. that's so far back. god. i get it, there was a prophecy saying they're related, but if you remember my rant about how dovewing shouldn't be a part of the prophecy because of how distantly related to firestar is, you know how i feel about that already.
complaining they're related and that's a problem is. deep breath here. it requires demonstrating that warriors has kept track of kinship all the way back to firestar's mother. and even if you wave that requirement, you still have to convince me they would care about that. this isn't a "they're cats, harold" situation, this is a "you would not know your third cousin even if you lived in the same town" situation.
i mean maybe you would. some people do. but my hometown has generations of people who married within its borders. you get as far as "cousin," maybe "second cousin" if you're feeling fancy. i'm not trying to make an always true statement, i just. every time i see someone complain about ivyfern being related, it strikes me as not understanding how extended families work?
i know third cousins isn't technically classified as a distant relative, but you have, on average, 190 third cousins. i feel so strongly about this i looked it up.
like i'm not. okay if you say, "I don't ship ivyfern because they are third cousins and that makes me uncomfortable" you are Valid. in general, you are all valid. i do not think you have to, on a personal level, be okay with ivyfern. you are free to do as you wish.
but. if you want to argue "ivyfern is a Bad Ship because they are third cousins" you have a hell of a burden of proof. simply saying "they share a great-great-grandmother" does not meet that, because like. yeah. we're all pretty damn related.)
(ivyfern rant over)
IVYFERN RANT OVER
right so. anyway. if you remove forbidden romance? you're forcing a lot more of those situations.
i've been messing around with modelling some small-scale fan clan-adjacent stuff to double-check the ratios for wbcd, and it's. it quickly becomes a necessity, is what i'm saying.
but i got distracted like. researching how related third cousins are. my point is not about that, that's like. a different topic. that i crammed into here because i have no self-control.
no, no, what i was trying to get to is: oakheart straight up tells us that cats have half-clan kits all the time, it's not a problem, no one talks about it. and that? that is exactly what we see modelled by warriors.
the only reason greystripe and silverstream have a problem is that silverstream dies and greystripe claims the kits. i feel very strongly that if she had lived, the kits would have been born and raised riverclan kits, that might, maybe, one day, guess who their father is.
we haven't had any half clan kits in a while, which yes! i think is a problem, but like. the fact that the three are medicine cat kits seems to be a bigger issue. which feels right.
and i'm not trying to argue what i think should be, i legitimately believe the text of warriors defends this, even in newer books which throw out a lot of the older world building in favour of more human-like conflict.
as readers, we are naturally following protagonists. we are following the interesting story. but imagine you're just a background riverclan cat. minnowtail, if you will. do you think, do you honestly think, anyone cares about minnowtail?
not in a bad way, just. if she's meeting up with mousewhisker at night, do you think anyone cares? of course not! no one cares. she's not a Protagonist. her kits aren't going to be prophesized about.
heck, finleap switches clans! and it's barely a big deal. it feels like one, but when's the last time anyone bothered dealing with it? that's what i thought.
(also i forgot like all of avos so that very last point might be a bad one if it is my argument stands i just literally do not remember anything in avos but violetshine. none. zero.)
but it's easy to get caught up with characters like hollyleaf and bristlefrost and forget that like. not everyone cares about the code. most of our protagonists do, because it's become mostly equivalent with being moral. and i have an essay draft titled "the code as religion vs the code as law" where i want to expand on this more, but i think like. that idea, that we as readers should use the code as a way of evaluating cats' behaviour, is flawed.
like, i'm not talking about being inconsistent with how that is applied. if you want to say, "the trial leafpool goes through for having half-clan kits is legitimate because of the code," i still think your approach is flawed.
because the cats themselves don't seem to think that way.
the code doesn't, to me, feel like the ten commandments. it does not feel like "you must do this to be a good cat."
rather, it feels like aesop's parables. "here are mistakes cats made and what we do instead of that."
i don't think the cats know the code the way we do. i do not think they memorize a list of rules as kits. i think they know what is and is not part of it, but i imagine they know the stories far more than the rules.
(i'm working on my lore stories to replace code of the clans.)
and even if that's my thoughts, i do think this is supported by the text. no one ever teaches the warrior code, cats just learn it in pieces. "don't waste food because we don't have enough to spare" is taught, not "there's a rule about food and starclan on the code."
that's why the whole arc of the broken code even works: the reason the imposter is able to manipulate things is because cats don't treat the code as a rigid set of rules and commandments, but guiding principles.
the parts of the code that we tend to focus on the most are relationships, apprentices, and battle. or that's my perception. i didn't do a poll to obtain that. there's also the leader's word, but readers don't usually think of that as a good rule, so i'm not including it.
but the parts the cats focus on most are food, territory, and the leader's word. which makes sense: those are basic needs: food, security, and...i don't want to say authority so much as some kind of social system. explaining it would be a whole thing. just trust with me, if you don't mind.
i don't think we have any real reason to believe cats care about half-clan relationships half as much as we do. yes, apprentices are chastized about it, but that's not really the same thing as being punished.
and it's hard to tell, because apprentices being punished has really fallen off, and that's kind of the problem with any argument i try to make about warriors, but.
wow.
i'm actually still on topic? i'm 2k words in and i'm still on topic? a day i never thought would come.
let's wrap this up. cats seem to care about half clan relationships in that: a) they lead to conflicted loyalties, b) they mess with borders and prey, and c) they are in the code as bad. in that order.
and again, if the code was some high and holy religious doctrine, we couldn't have the broken code as an arc. it does not work if the cats are already following it to a t, and know it word for word, because it's signfiicantly harder to manipulate people if they do.
not to the level the imposter does, at the speed he does.
and yes, you could argue that it's more bad writing, but. i think that discredits warriors. yeah, it sure has its fair share of bad writing, but i don't think that's in the way the imposter works. instead, he seizes on a big important doctrine that's nebulous, and uses that to control people.
and that? that feels much more interesting.
so with that in mind, i don't think the cats would care about your typical, non-protagonist forbidden relationship, and i don't think we should, either.
as far as a plot device, i think we're okay with what we have. don't get me wrong, i understand why people are tired of it, but i think we also should remember that warriors is not repeating itself. having multiple forbidden relationships is not repetitive. now, if medicine cats were having half-clan kits every series, i'd make a different argument.
but all of the major forbidden relationships have different outcomes, lessons, and circumstances, and for me, i think that's signficantly interesting.
i didn't really check sources and quotes for this, so like, if you spotted something wrong, feel free to correct me. my overall point stands, but there's a lot of warriors and i have a bad memory, so i could have missed somthing major.
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fantasiesromancechicklits · 7 years ago
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In Depth Thomas Doherty interview
TWO things hit home immediately on meeting Scotland’s Disney star Thomas Doherty; the first is he has the arresting good looks normally associated with boy band members, or those young men you see on giant posters on the wall of a trendy clothes shop, wearing nice tops. When Doherty later informs he has over a million Instagram followers it’s not hard to see why.
The second thing is his ankle tattoo, an inscription of sorts, but although I’m sitting a yard away I can’t make the words out. Some foreign language I’ve never come across? We talk about the tattoo puzzle later, meantime the young man from Edinburgh chats about his new Disney role.
Doherty, who is also one of the stars of Disney Channel musical, The Lodge, now stars as Harry Hook in Descendants 2, a sequel to the international TV franchise featuring the adventures of the teen offsprings of the great Disney villains such as Cruella de Vil and Maleficent.
He explains why he’s wild about Harry. “I love playing him,” says the actor who hopes his pirate Son of Hook will be the most evil villain of the past 100 years, badder than old King Kong, and meaner than a junkyard dog, (to lift from the late American songwriter Jim Croce.)
“He can be very hostile and intimidating and unpredictable, but at the same time he has a charming quality. It’s easy to see why people love him – but hate to love him at the same time. He’s such good fun to play. And his character brings a lot to the rest of the film.
Doherty seems to have natural warmth and to be entirely unassuming. As he tells of playing Captain Hook’s wicked progeny, it’s with an endearing sense of incredulity; the actor’s voice has a questioning air, wondering how he can, at just 22, be part of this worldwide franchise, be part of the offspring of the Disney parents who gave the world Miley Cyrus and Britney Selena Gomez.
He later reveals however he isn’t an innocent abroad. But for the moment we continue talk of Harry Hook. Did he channel anyone in particular when he became bad boy Harry? “I did,” he offers. “I thought of Heath Ledger when he played the Joker in Batman. His performance was amazing. He showed how you can totally immerse himself in this huge character, yet make him truthful. It’s such a shame we’ve lost him.
“When I play Harry I want that sort of truth.” He adds: “There’s a real dichotomy about him and it’s important to understand he’s still a kid, which means there’s a lot of teenage angst and frustration in the mix.
“You forget he’s the son of Hook, and don’t think about the pirate ship. What I want to come across is he’s a young man with a lot of problems – peer pressure, father pressures, and loss in his life. And this manifests itself in anger and aggression.” He laughs: “But it’s all good fun.”
Doherty clearly brings an intelligence to the role (his mother, who works in a bank – his dad is a financial adviser – made sure he finished his Highers before she agreed on him taking off to musical theatre college) but you discover there’s also an innate toughness about him which the model looks don’t suggest initially.
“I grew up hoping to become a professional footballer,” he says, revealing a world far removed from fairy princesses and camp.
His talent was such it led to professional trials with the likes of Berwick Rangers, but not quite enough to land the big leagues. “My brother was also a footballer and went to America on a footballing scholarship, so I guess I was following in his footsteps.”
Yet, while Doherty tackled and twisted his way over East Lothian grass he kept a dark, or rather a colourful, secret from many of his school chums.
“While I was seen as a football player, no-one was aware I also did musical theatre,” he says in mock conspiratorial voice. “I’d have my books and packed lunch at the top of my bag but at the bottom I’d hide my tap shoes.
“On Saturdays, for example, I’d go to musical theatre from nine ‘till one and then rush off to the game.” He adds, laughing: “Then during the week I’d turn up for musical theatre with my knees all cut and bruised. It was all a bit Billy Elliott. But I loved both.”
His very close friends accepted his leanings: “Yes, but any 13-year-old boy who wears leotard and tights two days a week is going to get slagged off,” he says, grinning. “Young boys were wary of acting. There was a sense it was all a bit effeminate. And I’d get teased. but it’s part of the banter. And my friends were fantastic and so supportive when it came to seeing my shows.”
Doherty had been attending a local drama group from a young age, but aged 13 he “really began to enjoy it". When the football dream was kicked out of the park, he decided to focus on performing and applied to the Academy of Performing Arts to study musical theatre. “I always wanted to work in TV and film but didn’t feel I was mature enough to go to acting school. And I could sing a bit, and dance as well because I had already done a lot of musical theatre shows.”
At the end of his three years, he performed his showcase and landed an agent. Now, landing representation is every young performer’s dream. But when you coax it out of Doherty there’s a realisation agents were almost queueing around the block to sign him up.
You would imagine they saw him as a cert for a role in EastEnders, a teen heartbreaker shoe-in for Hollyoaks?
“Yes, I met a few agents and some of them suggested they would get me into the likes of Hollyoaks. But it didn’t feel right. I didn’t feel passionate about the idea and felt I would be cheating a little bit.”
What happened was he worked in theatre for a short time, appearing at the Edinburgh Festival in a play about the Black Death, boils and all. Then he landed some film work in the likes of Hercules before being cast in teen musical The Lodge as Sean, filming in Northern Ireland.
He switches conversational channels to offer a bigger picture. “I don’t thinking living two steps ahead in life as being in any way productive. I like to live in the moment. That’s why there isn’t a big career plan mapped out.
“In the six months before leaving college I had the idea I’d get an agent and move to Hollywood and land films and do the red carpet thing. And then I got a little taste of it and I realised I was trying to fill my life with stuff. But I also realised if that was my intent it would never really be filled.”
What? These days actors talk of career moves as if it were a board game strategy. What made Doherty so different? What happened to bring about this epiphany?
Seems he has gone down the way of modelling after all.
“While I was doing The Lodge I was also meeting these modelling agencies, and at the same time I was going to acting auditions. But I wasn’t really thinking about the auditions; I was thinking about what the auditions would bring me. Then I went to LA and did the photo shoot for Teen Vogue and came back and thought ‘That was so much fun’ and people were saying to me it was amazing, yet at the same time it all felt very hollow, a bit vacuous.”
Doherty realised he was being judged for his looks alone. It didn’t sit well. “Old friends or people who didn’t know me were giving lots of attention, and it was weird when girls would scream or ask for photos but it wasn’t fulfilling.”
He felt lost, unsure of the road to take. “I began reading Eckhart Tolle a lot, (the spiritual teacher and author of books such as The Power Of Now) who has been asking why we are trying to fill our lives with stuff. You know; you get the car or the big house or whatever and then you ask yourself what you did to deserve it.
“You wonder if life is all about getting two million followers on social media.”
He has in fact just a million. The actor grins and then takes on a serious look: “But the thing is it doesn’t mean anything, except that ... well, it doesn’t define me.”
It’s quite unusual to find a young man aged just 22 who has been self-aware enough to examine the very point of his being. He could have gone the Bieber route and created minor drugs/alcohol mayhem. But of course, he’s also contained to a certain extent by the demands of Disney. The corporation Disney expects a lot of its young stars, in terms of how they represent themselves to the public, displaying a clean cut wholesomeness.
So how does Doherty balance out the Disney deal with the need to be a young man and have fun – and take a few risks? “Just don’t get caught,” he says, grinning. “But what you don’t do is overthink your status and let it get into your head because it will be a bit restrictive. What you have to do is just see yourself as a you are, which is a normal 22-year-old boy. And don’t let a couple of screaming girls sway you in any way.”
Does he read the tabloid tales of those who have lost the plot? Clearly he’s aware that celebrity is the mask that eats from within. Just think Heath Ledger.
“Yes, and I’m aware if you don’t be careful you crash and burn. Jim Carey once said he wished everyone could spend a week being rich and famous, to see what it’s really like. Attention can bring problems. But I’ve got it under control.”
What helps, apart from Eckhart Tolle and a few pages of natural common sense, is Doherty has a regular girlfriend, who happens to be his Descendants 2 co-star. “Her name is Dove Cameron and she lives in Los Angeles.” His voice becomes more animated as he expands: “She was here for the Edinburgh Festival for the first time and she loved it. She’s great. She’s like my pal, and a really good laugh. The plan is I’m going to head over to LA to live. We’re going to get a place together and live on Venice Beach.”
You tell him he’ll love it. And you’re sick with envy. “Thanks,” he says, smiling. “I think I’m making the right move. London’s great, and so is Edinburgh but it’s too cold.”
Doherty is relaxed about the future. He may be doing another season of The Lodge, and “hopefully a Descendants 3". But thanks to his Instagram success he has a regular income stream, independent of what he earns from acting. “I want to test the water,” he says of work possibilities in Tinseltown.
But gently.
“It’s good to have goals and a career and all the rest of it, but at the same time I want to enjoy life.”
He means it. The actor becomes truly animated when I tell of a young Scots actor, Declan Laird, currently making his way in Hollywood, who plays for a showbiz football team. Declan will get him a game.
“That sounds fantastic,” he says, breaking into a wide smile. “Although I’ll have to watch I don’t get kicked. But of course I won’t tell anyone I’m playing.”
We say goodbyes, but the ankle tattoo questions has to be answered. What the hell language is that? “It’s Elvish,” he declares, as if I should have known it’s Tolkien tongue.
“I’m a huge Lord Of The Rings fan, and it’s a quote from Gandalf: ‘All we have to do is decide what to do with the time that’s given to us.’ Good, eh?”
Perfect line, Thomas. Just perfect.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/arts_ents/15597316.Hook_lines_and_thinker__meet_the_rising_Scottish_film_star/
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Nairaland Forum / Entertainment / TV/Movies / I Want To Become An Actress (10238 Views) How Do I Break Into Nollywood As An Actress? / My Girlfriend Wants To Become An Actress! / I Want To Become An Actress (1) (2) (3) (4) (0) (1) (2) (Reply) (Go Down)I Want To Become An Actress by Anoushka(f): 4:51pm On Mar 15, 2006 Hey,does anyone know how I can act in Nigeria and do adverts as well? and i can actually act(not like our so-called nollywood actresses).Please i've always dreamed of it.Thanks 1 Like Re: I Want To Become An Actress by hazeleyes(f): 11:02pm On Mar 15, 2006 Hi Anoushka,
I really do hope you get what you want, however, isn't it a bit harsh dissing the 9ija actors.
obviously, you might be good, but lets encourage them
Yeah Re: I Want To Become An Actress by keliscia(f): 5:16pm On Mar 23, 2006 Hi!
To every body, i want to complement all the actresses in nollywood, i think they are great and my dream is to become an actress one day. Kiss Re: I Want To Become An Actress by LoverBwoy(m): 6:00pm On Mar 23, 2006 I think u should enrol in a drama school
u know when your are watching nigerians films, there are some funny directors that put their number on the DVD covers or in the adverts u watch just call them n tell them to hook u up!
make sure u don't go to nigeria just for a film maybe when your on holiday u can plan to hook them up WITH UR PARENTS OR RELATIVE!
they wont pay your flight money by the way Re: I Want To Become An Actress by keliscia(f): 6:05pm On Mar 24, 2006 thanks a lot loverbwoy ,i will do take your advise :d Re: I Want To Become An Actress by freddie1(m): 9:06pm On Mar 24, 2006 just visit my sites and i'll let u in on how to go about it. Re: I Want To Become An Actress by chinani(f): 1:01am On Mar 25, 2006 Hone your craft. I give you props for knowing the difference between "real" acting and some of the Naija actors etc. I give them props too but ppl we've got to step our game up. I think since your in Wales you should join a theatre company if possible. Stage acting is different from acting on the screen but it'll be a great way to meet ppl, learn on the job, and see a little on the production side. If not take a class or do "community theatre", kiddie shows or whatever. Try to meet people, NEVER burn a bridge and think/walk/live being an actress. This means, when you meetsomeone say "I am an actress" rather than "I want to be an actress". They'll say "what have you done?" and you'll say "Not much, but have you heard anything?" You'll be surprised that they have a cousin, blah, blah, blah. This "cousin" will lead to lots of dead ends and some projects that are out of your "range" for whatever reason. But that's o.k. b/c you only get your foot in the door or "discovered" once and everytime you put yourself out there you're getting a step closer.
I'm actually writing a screenplay that takes place in Nigeria. We need more ppl going home to showcase talent so, again, PROPS. Re: I Want To Become An Actress by TYPOP(m): 2:45pm On Mar 25, 2006 @chinani
These actors and actresses are actually trying. So many things are working against them. We are BACKWARD in terms of technology. Thumbs up for them. Re: I Want To Become An Actress by chinani(f): 7:43pm On Mar 25, 2006 @ TYPOP
You're right. I wasn't trying to hate on them. My apologies. I watch the movies and enjoy them as well. However, there is always a place for criticism. In the creative arts/world it leads to improvement. No one can say that the current stars should be content w/ their level of expertise. They should continue improving just like Nicole Kidman, Warren Beatty, Denzel Washington and more early in their career.
I was only trying to encourage Anoushka to do better than those before her. The advice would have been the same if she was heading to Hollywood instead of Nollywood. Re: I Want To Become An Actress by TYPOP(m): 11:44pm On Mar 25, 2006 @chinani you are right. Plenty space for improvement.
@Anoushka you should perform better when we get to see you in films. Re: I Want To Become An Actress by keliscia(f): 6:56pm On Mar 26, 2006 well i think you get wrong when you say that the nollywood people must improve like the hollywood, to say it all i just start wacthing nigerian films, because i live in between London and Italy. And since i was kid i have bean watching american films i mean all those stuf,and i really want to say that the nollywood actresses are really great, i enjoy a lot watching them, they are so SIMPLE REALISTIC CREATIVEand UNIQUE ,i prefer nigerian films hundred times also because at the end of the film there is allways a MORALITY that lead you in life, but americans films are not realistic ,THEY ARE ALWAYS THE SAME. I WANT TO SAY THAT NOLLYWOOD IS MORE THAN HOLLYWOOD in the way they act, CIAO Re: I Want To Become An Actress by TYPOP(m): 8:28pm On Mar 27, 2006 @keliscia I'm not sure I agree with you. There are so many things that are not real in our movies especially most of their love stories. They don't just happen. Re: I Want To Become An Actress by chinani(f): 8:32pm On Mar 27, 2006 @ Keliscia
I wasn't trying to put anyone down. I just meant: keep working to be a great actress. That's about it. Re: I Want To Become An Actress by keliscia(f): 11:47am On Mar 29, 2006 @TYPOP WELL TYPOP (LOVE STORIES ARE THE PART THAT MAKE US DREAM)IT IS TRUE THAT IT JUST DONT HAPPEN, BUT IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT SOME LOVE STORIES START AND END LIKE THAT,THAT IS WHY I SAY THAT NIGERIAN FILMS ARE REALISTIC.
@chinani HI! I DONT KNOW BUT I THINK YOU WHERE TALKING ABOUT ME WHEN YOU SAID THAT WHEN YOU MEET SOMEONE YOU SHOULD SAY :I AM AN ACTRESS RATHER TO SAY I WHAT TO BE AN ACTRESS. WELL I DID SAID :I WANT TO BE AN ACTRESS BECAUSE AM NOT LIKE ANOUSHKA YES I LIKE THE CONFIDENCE THAT SHE HAVE IN HER SELF, BUT I CANT PRESENT MY SELF SAYING THAT I AM BETTER THAN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT AREA, THEY HAVE BEEN CHOOSE BECAUSE THEY ARE GOOD, AND THEY ARE ACTRESS, I SAID I WANT TO BE AN ACTRESS BECAUSE I THINK HUMILITY IS THE BEST SOLUTION IN LIFE CIAO Re: I Want To Become An Actress by LoverBwoy(m): 9:57pm On Mar 29, 2006 i got some contact details from a film i watched which actually call for anyone interesed in a career in the film industry and Music.
" email you CV and photograph to [email protected]
they all have their contatc number
0803 452 5908 0803 818 5225 0802 622 6384 01-34 2220 add 00234 when calling from outside the country e.g, 002348034525908
the advert was from the film MADAM DEAREST produced by Tunde Ogidan, good quality film OGD pictures/Dove media
Goodluck Re: I Want To Become An Actress by chinani(f): 1:21am On Mar 30, 2006 @ keliscia
I applaud your humility. Yet, I wasn't saying that Anoushka is better than the Nollywood stars or that they were so bad. My intention was for the phrase "I am an actress" to be an exercise in confidence and reinforcement. By saying it you are reinforcing the idea and it takes confidence to say it aloud to strangers. You will start thinking "am I?" and then "OK well, what can I do to bring it to fruition?" On the other hand "aspiring" does not give an individual a timeline or a kick in the pants b/c one can "aspire" their whole lives. This idea isn't everyone's cup of tea. Honestly, it's kind of goofy advice so feel free to ignore it. Alls well. Re: I Want To Become An Actress by vichel(m): 2:30am On Mar 30, 2006 First of all, don't take a picture close to a hamper, it kind of makes u look like a regular chick, and we do not need regular chicks in our movie industry. Please disregard everything i have just said, just kidding. Try to get in contact with right people, am sure your dreams would be met. Re: I Want To Become An Actress by keliscia(f): 2:26pm On Mar 30, 2006 @vichel don't worry thanks 4 your advise :Pkiss Re: I Want To Become An Actress by whiteroses(f): 2:35pm On Mar 30, 2006 keliscia is so fine, that is so gay of me. lol. you look exactly like my school daughter that's why i comment. Re: I Want To Become An Actress by vichel(m): 5:49pm On Mar 30, 2006 Whiteroses, u are definitely creeping me out , but hey u both very cute Re: I Want To Become An Actress by keliscia(f): 12:24pm On Mar 31, 2006 @whiteroses
THANKS A LOT 4 YOUR COMMENT I REALLY APPRECIATE, YOU LOOK GOOD TO. YOU ARE REALLY A BEAUTIFUL LADY Re: I Want To Become An Actress by LoverBwoy(m): 1:01pm On Mar 31, 2006 yo keliscia, who is in that in your profile and who's that up thurrr? ^^^
If u are the one up there , i can be your manager
how old are u by the way ? Re: I Want To Become An Actress by whiteroses(f): 2:10pm On Mar 31, 2006 thanks keliscia and vichel. mwaah Re: I Want To Become An Actress by keliscia(f): 7:00pm On Apr 01, 2006 @loverBWOY YES I AM THE ONE, THANKS 4 THE COMPLEMENT, YES I KNOW AM REALLY BEAUTIFUL(JUST KIDDING ) THANKS!!!!!!!! Re: I Want To Become An Actress by adekemi(f): 1:43pm On Apr 14, 2006 i will like 2 be an actress i think i have this thing inside of me that i want to let the world to see Re: I Want To Become An Actress by LoverBwoy(m): 2:06pm On Apr 14, 2006 yea i wanna see that thing too boo boo
Send it to me @ adekemi , i wil hook u up Re: I Want To Become An Actress by TYPOP(m): 2:19pm On May 06, 2006 @whiteroses ,
@LoverBwoy , Hey, what do you want to do with adekemi? Re: I Want To Become An Actress by eveseh(f): 5:57pm On May 06, 2006 good luck Re: I Want To Become An Actress by LoverBwoy(m): 7:07pm On May 08, 2006 TYPOP:
@whiteroses ,
I was actually expecting to see a white lady on your profile. Was dissapointed, not by the beauty, but by the colour. You look cute.
@LoverBwoy , Hey, what do you want to do with adekemi?
how can you be dissappointed by her color??
what i want to do with adekemi?
i want to see that "thing inside of her" Re: I Want To Become An Actress by smartsoft(m): 10:50pm On May 15, 2006 If she is still intrested, she can mail me to [email protected] and i would hook her up with someone. Re: I Want To Become An Actress by mcmohd: 8:15pm On Aug 17, 2006 Hi!
What I would suggest you to create your profile on http://www.talentgroups.com and then create your own Music Group / Movie Group or you can join any other existing group to participate in movie making or music album. Once your group will become complete then you will be able to make your own movie or pop album.
How it works? Just check it out at http://www.talentgroups.com
Hope this helps
Mohtashim Re: I Want To Become An Actress by Oracle(m): 6:04pm On Aug 18, 2006 Have you people asked Orikinla? I think you should mail him and let him know what you want, he might be able to help
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