#and btw would you really defend stella the same way if she was a male and stolas female? i get the feeling you wouldn't 🤔

[yasmiralotta]

You are biased towards Stella too. So, what's your point. And I don't even hate Stella, believe it or not, even if she reminds me of the mother in law. The way she acts annoys me, but I am not going to crucify anyone who loves her. She is a great villan. I mostly get annoyed when people call her a unrealistic abuser, even though I know one personaly. And again, I do think Stella has her own issues. She was also forced to marry Stolas. I know all that. I know that this was not fair for Stella either. But, the differance is, Stella choose to abuse Stolas while Stolas choose to try to make it work.

You can critizise the writing all you want, but it doesn't change the way I see it and interpete it. I don't think she is a unrealistic character. I have seen my fair share of Karens in this world to know that some people have absolutley no shame and doesn't try to hide their abuse and nasty attitude. Of course certain abusers can be more like Valentino, where he can be nice even pleseant. But it's all a facade. While other people, like Stella, doesn't care to hide behind one. Because, let's face it, no one in the Goetia family would care that Stella abuses Stolas. But they would care if it was the other way around. Beacuse people doesn't care as much for male victims.

I know I talk a lot about antis. But I also wanted to show some of the anti-antis stuff I found. Here is the first one, enjoy 😊

Yep. This is exactly what would happen if these characters were real. Blitzø would not stand for the antis shit! 😤

[luneemeritus]

Holy fucking shit. Do you even hear yourself?

I really want to know WHEN Stolas's and Stella's relationship was treated as mutually destructive. Stella was THROWING IMPS ON HIM, threatening to KILL HIM because he "cheated" on her, if she was a man and Stolas was a woman, NO ONE would be blaming the victim nor excusing her abuse. Stella was ALWAYS depicted as an ABUSER. The difference is: before The Circus, yall were making excuses for her abusive behaviour. After The Circus, where there was no way to defend her (not retcon, btw, just more explanation about her abuse), yall came with this shit of "this came out of nowhere".

"Stella is written in a sexist way" shut the fuck up. Stella is a cishet rich woman that proposely abuses her servants and her husband (in front of her daughter, which is also child abuse). She raped a gay man, emotionally and physically tortured him, and tried to kill him. She thinks a "real man" must be agressive and heterosexual, this is why, in her eyes, Stolas is weak. Cash, Paimon and Valentino are abusers written in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY. WHY ONLY STELLA BOTHERS YOU?

This is not bad writing, you just can't understand basic shit. "Helluva Boss is not real life!!!" yet antis don't lose a chance to harrass Viv and her fans in real life. Yes, the way you interpretate media DOES matter, not in a "fiction influences real life" way, but in "real life moralism influences fiction" way. Which is a fact. Fiction media is important, this is a fact no matter what you try to pretend. You're literally calling Viv sexist because she wrote a realistic abuser that happened to be a woman. This is the prove that real life female abusers (and male victims) are not taken seriously. You not knowing how to engage with media doesn't mean it's bad written, the problem is you baby💕

Stolas is a victim. Stella is an abuser. She doesnt have redeeming qualities, end of story.

It's tragically fascinating that antis are obssessed over the abuse and rape that Stolas never did but excuse the abuse and rape that was done to him by that nightmare of a wife