#and a whole bunch of antisemitic shit

[mischiefmanifold]

I went back onto the Instagram DID community to see if I could find any information on RAMCOA I didn't already have and good gods are there a lot of misinformed and/or plain bad people on Instagram

[prokyon]

[long post of israeli bullshit propaganda]

oh i wonder if this person cares about "the joos"?? maybe their racist bullshit is at least backed up by a veneer of caring about antisemitism or something-

the FIRST post you see on this zionist shithead's blog:

if you dont know what this is, it's fascist "the west is collapsing because women get rights" crap. it's very very stock standard for nazis. you got it all here, you got ableist r-slur, you got "darkmaga" pepe frog, you got "rome fell because women!!!" and "abortion is evil and an afront to god" and "controlling the reproductive resources of the West is a necessity" crap.

but oh yeah go ahead and tell me that zionist freaks are very Jew-friendly and not right wing fuckheads, and that we should bother engaging with empty handwringing over false claims about "the left are the REAL antisemites" anymore.

it's a fucking joke.

[a-very-tired-jew]

Finally got an anti-Zionist definition of Zionism

An Israeli was brave enough to pop into the Dropout Discord’s Palestine channel today (May 5th, 2024) and ask what definition of Zionism they were using. While most people all had the same base of “Jews having their own state in their homeland” every single one of them goes off the rails with their own respective definition and conspiracy.

The first person said this:

Fig. 1. First person responding to the Israeli gives their definition of Zionism.

Notice that they say Zionism is the idea that Israel is uniquely and solely the rightful homeland of the Jews. This implies that there’s a malicious intent in Zionism towards non-Jews within Israel. This person has likely never heard of Kahanism, but in their mind Zionism and Kahanism are likely the same.

Here’s the second person to respond:

Fig. 2. Second response uses refers to anti-Zionist. Jews and their supposed definition.

Now, I know a bunch of anti-Zionist Jewish groups and people and I have never heard this particular definition. I’ve only heard this from extreme antisemites who hide behind the guise of being anti-Zionist progressives and actual terrorist groups trying to create a false antisemitic conspiracy narrative. However, this is my own personal experience and this could be the case, as the user says this is what is said in their circles. And if it’s true then it’s a conspiracy driven alt reality version of things as it denies all evidence to the contrary. There are whole levels to this that ignore the non-Jewish Israelis, the rights that they have in Israel, their representation in the government, and so on.

and the third person to respond is someone I’ve talked about before. This is the Jew who claims they were indoctrinated and all their elders are brainwashed and just need to “open their eyes to the truth.”

Fig. 3. Third response from a user who expands on Fig. 1. User’s definition and adds their own conspiracy.

I want to point out that this token Jew who believes others are indoctrinated actively believes the Israeli is making it so only Jews can be citizens. This is not any policy I can find, nor is it something I’ve seen even talked about outside of the most extremist elements. I think they’re referencing the 2018 stuff about Jews having the right to self determination, setting Hebrew as the National language, and government endorsement of settlers. But that’s far from the Israeli government and Zionism stating that Israel is for Jews and only Jews, and active programs to remove non-Jews. It’s something that, once again, would only come from antisemitic groups who want to generate strife through a particular narrative.

These are the definitions that they’re working with and/or believe. It’s no wonder you can’t actually talk to these activists because these definitions are laced with rhetoric from terrorist groups and antisemites. There’s traces of Jewish supremacy, world control, and other tropes throughout, and what’s sad is that a self confessed Jewish person believes it. Not only do they believe it, they’ve been extremely vocal in the server about it. They have so much to unpack that I can’t imagine what brought them to this level of conspiratorial thinking regarding Jews and Zionism.

It takes a lot of work to get people to see their conspiracy theories for what they are and that they’ve been misled. It’s easier to fall into them than to crawl out of that hole and realize you’ve been radicalized. That takes time, self reflection, and often a big “oh shit” moment, which may or may never happen.

At this point I’m just documenting how radicalized the people in the Dropout TV Discord are and how many of them believe in antisemitic conspiracies and downright falsities. Maybe they’ll do something about it one day, but I doubt it.

[hero-israel]

Looks like the Pro Palestine movement shat the bed completely. There's definitely been a vibe shift ever since they turned on Black people. The DNC protests were a bust. And Palestinians tried to raise a big stink over not getting a speaking spot at the DNC and the vast majority of people were like, "Lol you called the nominee 'Killer Kamala' and her boss 'Genocide Joe', what did you expect?" Now "Muslim Women for Harris" gave her their endorsement because they've finally realized they have no leveraging power over the Democrats and decided maybe they should do something to prevent Trump from returning to office.

Free Palestine isn't attracting the same large crowds anymore. The college protests are a few dozen people. Not to say these lingering ones aren't dangerous (they're probably even more dangerous than the bigger crowds at the encampments last semester) but they're just not attracting the same energy they used to.

It's going to be very interesting to see how the leftists who went full Jew-hater and jumped on the Free Palestine bandwagon react to the engine running out of gas. Do they think they can just go back to trying to cancel each other over microaggressions after spewing Nazi shit for the past 10 months? Do they think they can quietly delete their 10/7 tweets and people are just going to forget? I want to know if it's sunk in for them that they have completely destroyed credibility in mainstream leftism. Because I know I'm never trusting any activist movement again unless they can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're normal about Jews.

I know there will be no apologies, no self-reflection, no accountability from these people. I expect nothing but a bunch of gaslighting. People who pretended they didn't pass around lists of "Zionists", pretending they didn't romanticize self-immolation, pretending they weren't regurgitating slurs from David Duke. No, they'll all pretend they were totally calling out the antisemitism this whole time, for real. They totally weren't an active member in an Arab/white supremacist death cult.

Going forward, it's like how whenever you meet someone with a certain vibe, you ask them who they voted for in 2016/2020? Whenever I meet someone who's a self-proclaimed "activist", it's gonna like, "What were you posting about on 10/7?"

Oh I loovvvveee it. They came crawling right back. This should only be a lesson to the campus crowd about how politics works past the rhyming chant stage, maybe a few will even learn it.

[jewish-vents]

Sorry, but I can't help but be cynical about this vaccine thing. We all know there's a very good chance Hamas will intentionally sabotage it at the last second, or will use it as an opportunity to kill people and then lie and say Israel did it, or take aid workers hostage. And we know that when people inevitably still get sick (because they will, because no vaccine is 100% effective for everyone, and because there will be people who don't get it, especially when the vaccines came from Israel and Gazans are indoctrinated into antisemitic conspiracy theories from birth), everyone will accuse us of giving fake vaccines and intentionally infecting people with diseases and whatever other tired old shit they've been repeating since the middle ages. And we know none of the hostages are gonna be allowed to get the vaccines because every single NGO operating in Gaza has refused to lift a finger to help them (Kfir Bibas was too young when he was taken to have gotten his full course of polio shots, in case anyone wants to spare him a thought while they're handwringing about the poor innocent Gazan babies whose parents are keeping Jews as slaves).

So yeah, I'm fucking cynical about it. And no, before you clowns jump on me for it, I'm not saying it's a bad thing that people are getting vaccinated. But I am fucking tired. I am fucking tired of us being expected to hand over more and more and more and more aid to these people just so they can lie about it and say we're not helping and we're committing genocide even as we do the humanitarian work that their government should be doing and would be doing if they weren't a bunch of death-worshiping terrorists.

Whatever. It's a good thing they're getting vaccinated, I guess (again, assuming Hamas actually allows it to happen). But don't expect me to get excited about it. It is fundamentally unfair that we're expected to keep helping these people while no one will help our kidnapped family members, and while putting any conditions on the agreement even as basic as "give back the people you kidnapped" or even "make sure the baby you're holding hostage gets vaccinated" would be treated as an unforgivable sin. I just wish literally anyone gave a shit about how painful this is for people who want their families back together. But they don't care. Because the whole world gets off on Jewish pain.

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[xclowniex]

I wholeheartedly believe that the whole "you can't criticize the Israeli government without being called antisemetic for no reason" folk say that because the moment you criticize Hamas, they involve citizens.

Like you can be only talking about Hamas, for example "raping a bunch of people is not good" and they'll spin it into how you're "insulting resistance of Palestinian citizens"

Yet they'll spout of some shit about how jews are white colonizers and when you call them out on it they'll go "I'm not antisemitic I'm just critiquing the Israeli government"

And it's all because they view any critique of Hamas as an attack on civilians so therefore being antisemitic towards jews, Israeli and/or diaspora to them, equals critiquing the Israeli government.

[ckret2]

Conspiracy theories are an important part of the series' identity, what's wrong with them? Some have nasty implications if you really overthink it, but they're generally fun

I didn't say I'm not gonna include conspiracy theories in the story altogether. I said I'm not validating any REAL WORLD conspiracy theories, and I'm not talking about antisemitic & racist conspiracy theories. I'm happy to crack jokes debunking or mocking real world conspiracy theories. I'm happy to create new conspiracy theories for the fic that are totally divorced from any existing conspiracy theories.

But when I'm talking about the ones I'm not playing with, I ain't talking about "Elvis is still alive" conspiracies here. With a lot of the most oft-referenced goofy-sounding high profile conspiracy theories, they're not nasty "if you really overthink it." These theories are, in their very origins, vehicles for hatred toward minority groups. Browse for a while. Notice how many of the conspiracies that have ridiculous traits that make them seem fun on the surface are past the antisemitic point of no return.

Secret reptilian overlords disguised as humans? A deliberate effort to disguise centuries-old antisemitic conspiracies. "Jews secretly control the world," "Jews help others of their bloodline gain & maintain power," "Jews drink the blood of Christian children"—blood libel is a thing that real people believe and have believed for centuries and has historically been used to justify killing whole Jewish communities—and the exact rhetoric used in these obviously antisemitic claims was reskinned for the "reptilian overlords" conspiracy. And which real people do you think believers in the conspiracy disproportionately accuse of secretly being cold-blooded inhuman monsters trying to disguise themselves amongst normal humans? Reptilian overlords is a popular one to make jokes about because "the president's a lizard in disguise" sounds funny when stripped of context—and typically the people making jokes either don't know where it came from or don't care.

Hell, the entire "a cabal of Jewish people sorry we meant 'global elites' secretly rules the world" is one of the oldest, most versatile, and most popular of antisemetic conspiracy theories.

And check out some of the more ridiculous-sounding ones that pop culture likes making jokes about.

Hollow Earth? That one's "inside the earth is a paradise populated by Vikings (the manliest white people!) and Nazis. Yay Nazis!" A whole bunch of secret continent/secret moon colony/hidden geography conspiracies are very "yay Nazis". The Illuminati secretly control everything? For approximately a century, "Jews + Freemasons + Illuminati control the world" has been an extremely prominent conspiracy theory that's branched off into countless other conspiracy theories still believed today (it fed into the reptilian overlord conspiracy, for instance). Adrenochrome? Hollywood (and other "global elites") are trafficking children to harvest a chemical from their blood that they can inject? This is literally just blood libel again. Satanic Panic, the idea that there are real Satanic cults sacrificing children left and right, and the goofy things resulting from the panic like Chick Tracts claiming D&D will damn you? Innocent people were sent to jail for murder because they were gothy enough to be accused of Satanism. People (including the right's favorite targets: immigrants and queer people!) spent decades in jail over accusations that they were ritualistically sexually abusing children—crimes that never even happened. Even less directly harmful shit like "aliens built the pyramids" is only possible if you begin from a position of assuming it's more likely ALIENS built the pyramids than that ancient African people were capable of doing it and then ignore the fact that we do know how the damn things were built.

I don't think it's entertaining for a fictional story to go "hey, you know this conspiracy that was created to promote prejudice against minorities and has been used to hurt and kill people? Wouldn't it be sooo silly if there were a world where it's actually TRUE?? Wouldn't it be so funny if the antisemites and racists and homophobes and fascists were right about everything?"

So no. I'm not gonna use a fictional setting to validate any real world conspiracies; and I'm not gonna bring a whiff of antisemitic & racist conspiracies into a goofy comedy setting.

[queeranarchism]

Today's It Could Happen Here is really worth listening to (even better with the two previous episodes but it is a loooot of background info) and it made me realize where some of the disconnect around misinformation is.

When I (and tons of others who said it better than me) say stuff like "recognize antisemitic dogwhistles" and "fact check your Palestine shit, please", we're not trying to hold the pro-Palestine movement to higher standards than other movements against injustice or suggesting that there's a huge amount of antisemitism or misinformation coming from within the pro-Palestine movement.

What we're dealing with is that - through no fault of the pro-Palestine movement - a bunch of fucking weird 'maga communists' and other neonazi cryptids have figured out that in times like these they can reach new audiences by cosplaying as anti-imperialists, replacing the word 'globalist' with 'zionist' in their twitter posts and just spamming their shit everywhere until someone accidentally retweets it. And since the only thing they're looking for is attention, they'll reuse any old footage from the war in Syria, use images of the death for cheap shock value, and will just make up bullshit as long as it evokes emotion and gets them clicks.

That's probably how a lot of the bad shit gets in. And unfortunately step 2 is that sometimes well-intentioned but naive people catch the obvious dogwhistles and think they can salvage the post by editing those out and copying the content. But because the whole post was garbage, all that does is make the misinformation harder to spot.

[fromchaostocosmos]

Lets talk about trauma

I know that on the many years I've been on this site that the Jewish users of tumblr have discussed, explained, broken down, and shown over and over the multiple ways we are all effected by our generational and communal trauma.

The way that Jews from all over world and varying backgrounds yet all shared the same fears, learned the same survival mechanisms, played the same "games" that were not games, but rather ways to teach children how to survive, just the same everything.

Ask any Jew if nightmares about pogroms and/or the Holocaust and being taken or dying in it and they will tell you yes.

The amount of trauma Jews carry within us is, withing our DNA, within our bodies, within our brains in is immense. We carry several thousands years worth of trauma.

We carry it all. The hypervigilance, that stress cycle, the paranoia, the various of hormones that keep us in semi permanent state of stress, the tension, and more. If you have ever done any research into what trauma does the body, the brain, to a person then you can understand.

Currently Jews who stressed and traumatized people doing our best are being severally stressed and traumatized on a whole new level.

I fear for what this will do to us in the long term. I will not be surprised if Jewish people come out this all with PTSD. I know that I've already had a nightmare where I was at some nebulous Jewish place and a bunch people who came and shot and killed us including me and did so claiming to so in name of freeing Palestine.

Which is sad that I nightmare like that because I shouldn't have to experience that. And Palestinians deserve better than to have antisemites hijacking their cause and needs so that these antisemites can pretend that they are not antisemities.

It is honestly very sad to watch how much of the pro-Palestine movement/people do not actually listen to Palestinians themselves. How much they do not care about what Palestinians want, think, or need. How much this movement supports Hamas despite Gazans direct statements and feelings that say don't support Hamas. How much these groups still will push "charities" that send funding to Hamas or not credible instead of ones that give help to Palestinians.

The self-immolation of the air force man really cemented for how much this movement has been over taken and how little they care for what Palestinians think, say, or want. Because these people have been praising, lionizing, and glorifying this man death is direct defiance of what Palestinians have said.

The way this man death has been treated and talked about makes me extremally worried, and I know other Jews are too, that we may see suicide bombers attacking Jewish centers of life and community. Which in case it isn't clear then I want to make clear this not something I blame Palestinians or Muslims for.

No, this is something we are seeing from people living in the west who culturally Christian.

The way these people talk about martyrdom is terrifying. The way that they talk about Jews is I want to say horrifying and I want to terrifying because it is and it is all not anything new or suprising.

It is horrific, it is disturbing, and there are moments of shock, but not surprise.

I don't know if it is because I've just become numb or because it is the shit gets regurgitated over and over or maybe some combination of both.

Here is a picture of pomegranate for making to the end of this rather depressing post. Pomegranates are wonderful and make things better.

[traegorn]

dude i think they might be right about Lilith. The sheer fact that judaism is multifaceted and not any person can speak on it like without recognizing its diversity is a commonly held belief

What are you even talking about?

Let's break this down. I said "Lilith is a figure exclusively from Jewish Folklore, and Jewish people get to decide whether or not their culture is open."

I am not Jewish, and I am not drawing any line beyond that basic premise. This random person has gone on a multi-month campaign of harassment going back like half a year, calling me antisemitic, transphobic, and a slew of other insults.

A bunch of Jewish people said they don't consider it an open part of their culture. Maybe some don't agree with that. I don't know. I just know it's not my decision, and that the vast majority of folks I've talked to say it's closed. Jewish people can hash that shit out between themselves, and until then I'm taking the "Don't be a fuckhead" tack of recommending non-Jewish witches leave Lilith the fuck alone.

That's the great "crime" I committed. You apparently think it's acceptable that I spend months being harassed because of that.

And what the hell have they been right about to begin with? In all the random ass asks they've sent me, they've never made a single argument for why they're right. The only argument they've made included citing an article that literally does not support what they're saying. Other than that? Random insults. They have not been making a case for anything.

(Also, most non-Jewish witches justify their working with Lilith with a breadth of misinformation and ahistorical bullshit where most of the time I'm just debunking that. Like, Lilith is not and has never been a "Goddess," nor was she Babylonian -- it's a whole thing. Like, if you go back to my now infamous podcast I think I said I don't think non-Jewish people should work with Lilith. Like, it was fucking advice -- I need to reiterate that I have never presumed to be in charge of any of this shit.)

[phantomram-b00]

Why is Harry Potter trending (or was)? Can it not? Like deadass I’m being fr can it plz not. Especially that J.K Rowling is a massive TERF, a raging antisemite, and disgustingly try to deny that trans people were not affected by the Holocaust (which she was ratio’d by George Takei).

“Proof?”

Way ahead of you: (Tw: transphobia, racism, antisemitism, holocaust, Harry Potter)

Oh and don’t get me started how Hogwart Legacy, you know that game that was sworn Jk Rowling wasn’t apart of (yeah sure-) is blood libel story. Not to mention that trans people have told you not to especially since there is a canonical transgender character named Sirona. (People said Sirona is a Celtic goddess for healing. but- come on. You can’t bullshit out of this one. There are OTHER NAMES TO NAME A TRANSGENDER CHARACTER— it make those joke with how Jk Rowling naming not far off. Because it like naming a nonbinary character “NoGendora” or smth (before you say, I’m nonbinary myself—) so idc if it already have a meaning, it still is tone deaf to name a transgender women Sirona).

“But but- you can separate the art from the artist?”

Yes. You can separate art from the artist. HOWEVER before you celebrate thinking you had a gotcha moment. You can only separate if the art itself isn’t problematic or is bigotry itself. Harry Potter is as mention in the links. Not to mention, Harry Potter himself become a cop despite the cop in that world didn’t do jack shit. And don’t get me started on how they handle the whole elf slavery. Also there is heavy fatphobia in this story, proof, look at how they would talk about Harry’s abusive aunt and uncle from his mother’s side. Don’t get me started how she would describe Rita Skeeter. There even a black character who’s last names is Shacklebolt— do I need to say more (if I’m missing any other examples please tell me)

Not to mention she benefits off of it and uses her money to donate to transphobia and just don’t give a flying fuck if she offend people (which seem to usually be the case for trans/homophobia but moving on). like, this is who you wanna support? You still want to read this wizard book when there are other that don’t have transphobia, racist, antisemitic, or any problematic rhetoric and are objectively better than Harry Potter? Really? You wanna die on this hill?

Look. I used to like Harry Potter. but that was before I knew what a dirtbag of a fucking human she is (I didn’t really have social media at the time), and I cringe as I wish I learn sooner that she was a deplorable person who hates trans people like myself (nonbinary respectfully). But, I can happily say Fuck Harry Potter that series can burn in a trash for all I care and I hope the hbo series flops on its ass. And also fuck Jk Rowling, she can fuck off for all I care. That being said, If you support Harry Potter/Jk Rowling, unfollow me. Block me. Because I do not support Harry Potter/Jk Rowling. Because Trans rights/Gender Equality, Human rights are infinitely more important than a basic ass wizard book/movie with a even basic ass magic system when there are objectively better wizard/magic books that are respectful.

Anyway, that being said, Trans and basic human rights matter 🩵🩷🤍🩷🩵 🤭

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[screamingfromuz]

Hi do you have any posts on the BDS movement? I think most don’t oppose it solely because it calls for a boycott of Israel, but because the org has unnecessarily called for boycotts found unjust and apparently doxxed Jewish people.. do you know anything about that?

I have a rant on them here, but not a lot else. But put simply, I think they are evil. they have doxed Jewish people, there was the whole map debacle, and they often used highly antisemitic rhetoric.

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!

the art boycott is pissing me off. working to isolate Israel from the global art world is fucked (how are people supposed to be exposed to other opinions if you refuse to let them interact?), but the people that suffer the most from it are Palestinian. the worst tendency of it is that if a Palestinian artist want to preform before Palestinians within the green line, they face huge backlash, and often just cancel their shows. And I can tell you that arranging shows in Gaza in fucking hard due to both Hamas's religious fundamentalism and Israel and Egypt's sieges, and the West Bank is tough because of Israel's tight ass border control that is so fucking annoying that many artists don't have the ability to fight with! So they are helping to keep Palestinians culturally isolated!

AND this block Israelis from interacting with big name international Palestinian artists which is making my life harder when I am trying to expose Israelis to Palestinian culture in order to deradicalize them! Also, I have some Palestinian artists I would like to see and it suck that the BDS will give them such hell for that, that it might not be a possibility.

I understand the desire to vote with your money, to boycott, and I give zero fucks about it. your money, your choice. My problem is how violent it is, how it attacks everyone, how they spew hate and malice. I have no problems for the original core values of the BDS (ending the occupation in the west bank, having full equality for Arab-Israelis and following Resolution 194), even if I disagree with the phrasing of some. but over the years there have been calls for violence against Jews (shoot a Jew is one of the more blunt ones), death threats against people who wanted to go to Israel, doxing and working with SJP (Students for Justice in Palestine). SJP in a shit show by itself, and often tokenise and drown Palestinian voices so a bunch of white American colonizers could play their fantasies of being oppressed and getting to be violent.

[weemietime]

I just lost a close friend to antisemitism and I’m not even Jewish myself, I just shared a shit ton of posts informing about the whole Amsterdam pogrom on my IG story and then all of a sudden my so called “friend” started spewing racist (I’m black) and antisemitic rhetoric towards me in my dms and we had an argument. Another friend unfollowed me after I did posted on my story. I’m literally still reeling from the argument lol, I’m shocked. I sort of expected my friends to be relatively levelheaded about Jews, I wasn’t expecting that.

I am super sorry this happened to you dude, sadly this shit is only too common as so many Jews that I know have lost pretty much their whole entire friend groups overnight.

I can only speak for myself, but I'm grateful that you did speak up even if it cost you a friendship. Judging by them being racist, it's very clear this person was never really your friend, but I'm glad that you stood up for what is right. It's only too important in this crazy ass atmosphere that we not allow antisemitism to flourish in our communities whether you're Jewish or not. The fact that they added a bunch of racist bullshit in there just proves that this is ideology that can only exist within a xenophobic framework.

Last but not least, I'll leave you with this: Yad Vashem doesn't showcase Righteous Jews, it showcases Righteous Among the Nations (aka, goyim who helped us) -- we never, ever forget the people who stand up for us, even if it's an anon on Tumblr or an IG story.

If there are Jews in your immediate vicinity, they will take notice of this and appreciate it, I guarantee it. You might wind up with an even better friendship than the one you lost! Who knows!

[doberbutts]

Ok I have believed you're Jewish this whole time bc no one else ever gives a shit what happens to us (and if they do, they definitely don't understand the nuances of our historical and modern community with anywhere near the depth you seem to, nor do they care to know) but uh... you're not.

So thanks. This is actually kind of mindblowing.

No, as far as I know I'm gentile through and through. I have a bunch of Jewish friends online and off plus I now live in close proximity to a high Jewish populated area, so that may explain some of it. Unless the Irish portion of my family that came to the US fleeing WWII were Jews, which I sort of doubt because in my lifetime they've all been incredibly annoyingly Christian. My family history stops there, we have no more knowledge of them past that generation that came here, so it's really up in the air.

I was raised in close proximity to Mennonites and Mennonites believe they are Jew 2.0 which I suppose in a weird antisemitic way taught me to care about Jewish history and faith. Despite this, Mennonite are NOT friendly to Jews as a group both historically and in modern times and number among the Christian groups wanting to shuffle all the Jews to Israel to kickstart Revelations and the Second Coming of Christ so like. Sure, they celebrate Jewish holidays and some even keep kosher but that does not mean they actually have any respect for Jews outside of acknowledging that the first Christians were also Jews.

And I also was raised with knowledge about the Black Hebrew Israelites, which are an antisemitic group of black nationalists who believe "white" Jews are lying about being God's chosen people and actually black people are the "real Jews". It's um. Well they're a cult and unfortunately they've been around for a long time and they've sucked a lot of modern celebrities and politicians into their ranks (Kanye West and Nick Cannon being the most talked about examples on here outside of black-specific circles). The Nation of Islam is a similar antisemitic black nationalist cult but instead of calling themselves Jewish they are Muslim- Malcolm X was famously involved with and later assassinated by this cult when he began speaking out against them. I would say a significant portion of antisemitism you may find in black communities often stems from one of these two groups at its heart.

So I don't really know enough about Jewishness to say that my knowledge comes anywhere close to someone who is actually Jewish. However I know quite a lot about the roots of antisemitism within my own demographic and how to combat it when I see it, from being raised by my family who were activists in their own right.

[livseses]

It baffles me the offense taken at @sophieinwonderland 's plural trinity theory (that many others, including us, have come to independently) because she's checks notes using it to push an agenda.

Like, do y'all not understand how xtianity works? Have y'all listened to a preacher before? Have y'all ever been inside of a church after a big controversy has hit the news and heard a message relating to that from the pulpit?

Most scripture we see quoted is to push an agenda. Most sermons are backed by an agenda. Even earnest spiritual explorations of the Bible are informed by one's preexisting beliefs and biases (and those of the teacher if there is one). It's not wrong to push an agenda through theological interpretation. That's just what theological interpretation is.

The specific agenda may be harmful yes. But the problem is that they're pushing a harmful agenda, not that they're pushing an agenda.

Is it deeply offensive to make jokes/theories about Jesus being ace? Hell we've seen articulate discussions in xtian and ex-xtian circles about if Paul was ace or gay and doing a whole bunch of moralizing to justify his queerness. Would it be wrong to point out to a transphobe that Jesus (only having the XX chromosomes of Mary) would have therefore been either trans or intersex? How about to quote passages that seem to be Jesus specifically preaching that transition is holy?

Shit, when we had aspirations of becoming a pastor we worked on a sermon about how the early church in Acts was straight up communism. We wrote one on that meme where Jesus says "Did i fucking stutter?" We tried to get our church to start a queer ministry program. We tried to build it into a mutual aid org. Cause I'm a queer xtian anarchist and I have an agenda to push.

And I'm predicting a response out there. "Oh Faye! But that's not what social justice preachers or televangelists are doing. They're interpreting the True Word of God and building their agenda from that!" Which would be worthwhile to entertain and discuss. Except that the disdain at God being viewed as an endogenic median system is coming from non-xtians.

And sure, she's an atheist with an ex-christian host. So maybe you can think that it's wrong for her specifically to push an agenda through xtianity. But xtian theology isn't sacrosanct and immune to outside interpretation. It fucking lost that privilege when it forcibly tries to convert half the world. You can't tell someone to stop touching a religion when that religion is being forced on everyone.

Anyone who's fighting Sophie's take on the trinity on the grounds that it's wrong to interpret doctrine to push an agenda is doing christofascist colonialist's work for them. Christofascists are the ones that have a vested interest in xtianity having one true doctrine free of politics or agendas. It's those people that want to say that the xtian Bible simply agrees with their bigotry and any interpretation otherwise is blasphemous and degenerate. They want xtian doctrine to be a settle issue that lands squarely affirming their death cult of heteropatriarchial, xenophobic, antisemitic violence. Not something open for interpretations in ways that further equality or justice (exactly the goal that Sophie clearly states).

-Faye

[jewish-vents]

I hate that I get deeply scared and uncomfortable when I see someone, anyone post anything about Palestine. I know it's wrong and fucked up and I try so hard not to feel this way but after all the antisemitism I have both experienced and witnessed online and offline since October 7th, I have grown insanely paranoid and afraid of gentiles and Anti Zionist Jews.

I was a proud Anti Zionist Jew my whole life (one that wasn't antisemitic btw) but ever since October 7th, antisemitism has taken over my life to the point where I don't speak of what's happening at all since it has been causing so much emotional, mental and even physical distress.

TW: Antisemitism

I could go on and on about the antisemitism my loved ones and I have been forced to experience but recently a friend found a bunch of "Goyim Defense League" flyers in her neighborhood that blames Jews for 9/11 and a bunch of other shit (Covid, etc) and it has made us feel even more depressed and fearful. The worst part? The flyer sums up the Left right now. The front of the flyer seems normal: "Free Palestine!" alongside a drawing of a Hijabi. Then you open it and you see statistics of Palestinian deaths before you see "Every aspect of US Politics is Jewish." This is exactly the Left right now. They hide behind "Free Palestine" and a fake concern and support for Palestinians but then they spiral into blood libel very quickly.

I just wish they would outright hate us instead of using extreme mental gymnastics.

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