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I agree with most if this. Of course it goes far beyond a simple relationship. And people actually blaming Lucy Gray herself for this, rather than how Snow interpreted her, are fundamentally misunderstanding who Snow is.
HOWEVER.
There is still the fact that Snow went out of his way to torture Haymitch mentally. What would have been the logical thing for Snow to do in order to crush Haymitchâs rebellion? Program mutts, like they did for Maysilee and Ampert. Make it hurt. Make it take hours of absolute agony for Haymitch to die, while his family was forced to watch. Just like he promised. This would prevent Haymitch from messing with the arena more, and would prevent him from ever becoming a rebellious victor.
But no. At some point Snow decided that death was too good for this boy. He needed to leave him at least a the chance to win, and then rip everything he loved away from him. Because he knew that would be worse than death. He wanted to control Haymitch without needing to kill him.
If Snow was acting purely in order to control though, leaving Haymitch alive would not have been the thing to do. Haymitch was clearly a lose canon and unpredictable. Murdering everyone he loved was also an incredibly risky move. This man knows that you donât want to leave people with nothing left to lose, but for some reason, with Haymitch, he does this. This is also a reason I think this canât be purely about Snowâs desire to absolutely control living people either. Because if it was, he would have left at least one person Haymitch cared about alive. But he chose not to.
This was an act of personal hatred and revenge. I do think he projected Lucy Gray onto Haymitch. He literally puts Haymitch into a golden cage, just like he would have done with Lucy Gray, metaphorically. Maybe personal hatred and revenge against everything Lucy Gray and people like her represent. But still. Personal. The reason Lucy Gray is so personal to him is, of course, because she represents everything he cannot posess and control.
I donât think taking out all of the emotion and yes, pettiness, out of Snowâs actions and leaving nothing but a cold and calculating tyrant would be an accurate representation of this man.
Maybe Iâm misunderstanding what OP is saying here. I think we might actually be agreeing. But yeah! My thoughts.
the amount of people I keep seeing saying that snow tortures kids from district 12 because of his âold girlfriend/situationshipâ or that heâs making what she did everyoneâs problem and I get that some of those are just jokes, but no.
snow does this because he is a tyrant. it is because he believes genuinely that in order to never be the weak and scared person he was during the war, that he needs to stomp on these people to keep things how he wants them.
he loves how power feels and he hates everything that lucy gray REPRESENTS - hence why haymitch and katniss bother him so much. they are closely intertwined with the culture that made lucy gray behave in the manner she did and reminders of that bother him.
itâs even a debate whether or not he truly cared about lucy gray and whether thatâs the argument or not, what snow is hung up on is someone escaping him and the power of the capitol.
snow does not like it when people defy him because everyone is below him, even lucy gray. he resented her when she showed signs of having her own power and being her own person who could defy him or leave him.
this goes far beyond just a relationship, and has everything to do with who snow is as a person.
#the hunger games#president snow#sunrise on the reaping#lucy gray baird#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#haymitch abernathy#derangedrants#sotr
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After reading yet another completely misinforming post on Saturn, filled with pointless negativity and lack of understanding, I feel like I need to set the story straight.
To understand Saturn, one needs to know its natural zodiacal place, which is after Jupiter. So Saturn is a natural consequence of Jupiter. This is where Vedic astrology is helpful, because we get the understanding of the planets from the Nakshatra order, which translates to all aspects of life.
If you want to understand Jupiterâs nature in a nutshell, I always think of Luc Bessonâs âLucyâ, where by the end of the movie, we witness achievement of infinite consciousness. âI am everywhereâ is Jupiterâs motto. It is constant growth and expansion, because Jupiter reflects the Divine nature of the Universe, everything being a part of a constant expansive plan. And we need that in our lives, because it keeps us going, the awareness that there is more to do, to create, to develop, always. Thatâs why Jupiter represents hope and perspective and can lead to success, because this is where we have the most energy to âspreadâ, the most will to continue constantly expanding and creating, which keeps us going and shows us the light at the end of the tunnel even in most difficult situations.
However, with all the positive aspects of Jupiter, over time we run into several issues. The first one is that constant growth also leads to danger of excess. If bushes grow and we donât trim them, they become a mess. Everything that is not tended to, eventually decays without maintenance. And that next step, building on Jupiterâs expansion, is Saturn. The second one is energetic exhaustion, because any non abstract matter needs to reset cyclically to keep going. This also comes with the realization that if you are everywhere, you become a target for everyone, which is tiring too. Jupiter is a purely abstract planet, so it doesnât understand that physical responsibility, but that realistic, necessary need for privacy, rest and break is Saturn. The last problem we run into is lack of focus. If we are everything and everywhere, we can also feel void, nothingness, because such is the duality of God and the Universe and with infinity there is no direction, so precise building becomes an issue. That organization, that narrowing down, that makes building and focusing possible is Saturn. That is also why Saturn is friendâs with Venus, the planet of decisions, because to make a decision you have to let go of something to prioritize over something else, and Saturn gives Venus that efficiency.
As you can see, fundamentally none of these traits of Saturn are bad or negative and all of them are essential. For instance, you canât build a successful business without organization and compartmentalization, without being able to discard the unnecessary and control and cultivate your object of focus. If you struggle with any of the above processes in your chart, your Saturn is struggling by aspect, sign or dignity and it simply resists at performing a necessary job that it was meant to do. So any negative experiences with Saturn are simply what we can equate to a malfunctioning machine.
The collective fear mongering towards Saturn comes also from these malfunctions and also because other more impulsive, spontaneous planets donât agree with its nature. Ernst Wilhelm says in his teachings that Saturn has so many enemies (Sun, Moon, Mars), and for that reason itâs easy to misunderstand it.
To give you an example, donât believe any of the posts that say Saturn in the 2nd house will make you poor. It only will, if you make bad decisions with it, because every bad action in this life has a consequence. To contrast it, while an unafflicted Jupiter in the 2nd would have the karma of a certain level of basic financial freedom and certain creative financial intelligence âwhat can I buy and keep buying that will make my life better?â, Saturn in the 2nd would more enter the stage of âbuying endlessly with no purpose is exhausting and wasteful, what can I buy and how can I invest in a way that yields long term dividends? How can I cut off excess to redirect these resources in a more useful way? Do I really need that much, or can I put certain resources towards something more worthy?â. So the theme here is responsibility for an allocation of every penny, not deprivation.
Saturn will perform on a similar principle in all houses, and that becomes really important when Saturn is a Karaka of a certain house, like in the 10th house, because some things cannot be achieved without focus. For instance, even if you do have a multitude of hobbies and several interests or even professions, you only have so much time each day, so narrowing down your options and choosing what is truly important becomes imperative, and that commitment of what you devote your time and energy to, that narrowing down and prioritizing of one avenue over another, is what over time becomes what we in the modern world call a career. If your life is scattered, you will never accomplish anything, even if your dreams were humble, and you will find yourself on your deathbed with no lasting legacy.
#astrology#vedic astrology#jyotish#astrology asks#astro observations#astro notes#vedic astro observations#vedic astro notes#saturn#jupiter
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Itâs baffles me that there are people out there who are genuinely mad that Batman has a no killing rule. Like imagine being mad at someone for not wanting to murder people. Imagine being mad at a hero for believing in the inherent worth of life and striving for fair justice.
#Bruce as a character fundamentally believes in the sanctity of human life#and the sanctity of life in general#You can make as many arguments as you want about how life would just be easier if he killed the joker or any of his rogues#and you would be right!#life would be easier if he just killed these people#but that isnât the point!#the point is that he does not want life to be easy he wants it to be better#and for it to be better there needs to be respect for EVERYONEâS humanity#he cannot just pick and choose when someone deserves to live or die#it goes agaisnt the ethos of Batman and what he is trying to do#and if you complain about that or find his respect for life to be a flaw#I gotta say we have very different interpretations of what Batman as a concept represents#and I think you fundamentally misunderstand it
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hold my hand and say it with me: jackie taylor is not a femme
#why are people on tiktok so convinced she is it actually drives me crazy#feminity is not an authentic expression of identity for her⊠and itâs definitely not an expression of QUEER identity#when jackie gets away from the pressures of society she immediately starts dressing extremely masculinely for the subculture sheâs a part of#like. sheâs wearing MENâs clothing. sheâs dressing preppy but sheâs dressing masculinely#like sheâs taking the chance of being away from home to express herself the way she wants to#and the way she wants to express herself is through masculinity#like. what about that makes you think sheâs FEMME.#i guess this is really nitpicky but itâs something that genuinely pisses me off bad#because itâs such a fundamental misunderstanding of jackieâs character and of queer gender expression#and of the gender presentations of people who belonged to certain subcultures in the 90s#a really similar thing happens with the masculinization of nat#who is a very feminine character by the standards of her time period and subculture#she doesnât dress like a masc lesbian. she dresses like a girl who belongs to an alternative subculture in 1996#this says SO MUCH to me about how people perceive masculinity and femininity in relation to the perception of strength and capability#in relation to their perception of the strength and capability of people and characters#likeâŠ.. these sort of perceptions and assumptions are misogynistic actually đ and i never see anyone talk about it#anyway. whatever. idk how many people are gonna agree with me on this but i wanted to say it anyway#jackieâs not fem. and natâs not masc#jackie taylor#yellowjackets#yj#discourse
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okay. so none of you should be allowed to use to the word butch ever actually
#like is this bait. I feel insane.#starâs stuff#âproshipper freakâ in bio mmhm. yeah. you can just say you donât talk to people irl thatâs fine too#the reason this is pissing me off isnât because masculine and gnc women shouldnât be with men or anything like that idc abt that#I just think itâs ridiculous to a) ask for that. as if we have this plethora of butches in media and itâs so unfortunate that theyâreâ#always with women and never with men. boohoo#and b) equating butchness (identity) with masculinity (gender presentation)#u have a fundamental misunderstanding of these things and it is yucky of you to play with identities like mine like weâre toys#gross !!! I hate it !!!!
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anyone else have people continuously make wildly incorrect assumptions about you because of your interests? for me as a queer medievalist, irish speaker, and folk musician, it's a) that people expect me to be interested in ttrpgs and i really really am not, and b) that they often think i'll be interested in more mystical/magical/superstitious things and i'm also really not that, i'm a deeply unmystical cynic who is at best vaguely agnostic towards a "cosmic force" kind of godconcept and doesn't vibe with personified god(s) of any variety
i do my best to be polite about both misinterpretations but boy sometimes people project their expectations onto you hard and by the time you've realised that they've fundamentally misunderstood your personality it can be pretty awkward to be like "i'm sorry but you have mistaken me for an entirely different genre of person"
#basically people think i'm likely to be into multiple types of druid#i'm not.#i am also not into tarot or astrology or crystals or rituals or altars or any of that#i am a non-theist quaker. mostly that means no Stuffâą#i have no interest in telling other people how to live their lives#i just wish they would stop misunderstanding me on such a fundamental level#like the person who asked what i was doing for the holidays so i said i was going to my parents for christmas#and they seemed weirded out and kept talking about solstice#okay ?? have a nice solstice. that's not my holiday but đ#don't be weird about it though. sorry for not being the person you apparently decided i was#pearsanta
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Me: I joke about writing the same McCoy centric story over and over again in different ways
Me: and like. I love doing it and imma keep doing it because it makes me happy.
Me: but also. I do sometimes wonder if it's like. A little Much.
Me: like maybe I should branch out or something
Me: [reads another fundamental and extremely insulting misread of McCoy's character by someone who is clearly making a Choice to cast McCoy as the villain, because they have to get him out of the way of spirk, because they're too???? idk immature??? to realize that even when you're in a relationship with one person, other ppl can and SHOULD still be important to you]
Me: lmao I hope I AM too much actually!!!! I hope it is 100% obnoxious how much I love that doctor!!!!! Time to write more versions of the same story of McCoy being forced to realize that he is loved and cared for!!!!!!
Me: I KNOW MY NICHE AND IMMA DIE IN THAT NICHE, THANKS
#mine#not putting this in the mcc*y/tr*k tags bc i am venting not trying to start đŸđ [discourse]#but woof. WOOF. i want you to know that if you hate the doc then sp*ck and k*rk would hate YOU#like seeing someone say they're sp*ck or jim coded and then say flagrantly absurd things about mcc*y.......u are garbage coded actually.#sp*ck and k*rk would literally never#i will never understand how so many ppl can ship mcc*yâs besties and then???? hate on mcc*y?????????#i block LIBERALLY so i have a lot of b*nes haters blocked already tbf#i just stumble across one in the wild sometimes alas#that mindset btw is how that counseling fic came about lmao - we were talking about how if sp*rk dated they'd still drag mcc*y EVERYWHERE#romantic or platonic he is THEIRS just like they're HIS. it's a triumvir*te my guy#any two of them hook up they're still making the third stay at their side 24/7 lolllllll#how can you claim to love sp*ck and k*rk and so fundamentally misunderstand them and their relationship with b*nes#genuinely tragique#you are missing out on so much fun#we are not watching the same show lmao <3 leave my doctor alone <3 leave his bfs alone too <3#me: i should let things go / sp*ck: have you instead considered being a petty bitch / me: what / sp*ck: they can get fucked and die mad đ#me: ur so right sp*ck / sp*ck: i usually am#guess who literally just found out that if the word is contained w/in a longer tag it now shows up if you search that word!!!!!#that change very well may not be recent but i just found out!!!! anyway. asterisks added.#i give up. tumblr keeps putting this in the fucjing tags. hellsite (full of hatred)#eta: didn't think to make this non-rebloggable earlier but now it is lmao. it's just a vent post y'all <3
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the way her smile drops lmaooo
#she turned off customer service mode#more like ''I have to be nicies so these people don't kill me'' mode#op#silna#sorry to be mean but i hate goodsir/silna sooo bad#not in like a shipping war ''dont yuck someone else's yum'' way like i think it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the show#like. did you think Pocahontas was a beautiful love story too#dont send me asks defending it i'll just delete them đ«¶#i do not mind being blocked over this
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ok wait i need to hear more of your thoughts on peeta owning a bakery....
This is one of those rare times where Iâm pretty sure this anon isnât someone I know personally bc Iâve subjected anyone who will listen to my rant about the Peeta Bakery Headcanon. Anyway, youâre gonna regret asking this anon bc there are fucking Layers here.
I know this is probably a controversial take based on the number of fics where Iâve seen it, but I simply do not think that Peeta would open a commercial bakery after Mockingjay!! Like on a metatextual level, I donât think it really fits with the point of the ending of the series. It actually sort of fascinates me that itâs just such a common headcanon because the ending of Mockingjay is exceedingly vague. I think that vagueness invites us, as readers, to imagine a better world post-revolution. A world where Katniss would feel confident that her children would be safe from injustice, where sheâd feel confident that her children would never know want the way she did as a child. A just world. A kinder world. Can a capitalist society ever be just? Is a capitalist society where a disabled teenager has no other means to subsist himself (or feels like thereâs no other way he can be a contributing member of his community) really the post-revolution world we dream of? Is that really the best we can imagine?
(This got so insanely long Iâm adding a read more lmao)
I get that showing a better world is not always the point of post-mockingjay headcanons/fics. Like there are plenty of really great post-mockingjay fics Iâve seen where, yeah, part of the fic is that society like ISNâT all that different or all that much better. Iâve seen that really well done! Hell, Iâve written them myself! Itâs easy to imagine how a lot of aspects of society would not get an overhaul, a lot of the same structural inequalities would continue to exist. One headcanon that really stuck with me (I canât remember which fic it was from) was that Peeta sells basically mail order baked goods to people on the Capitol, sending them iced cakes and pastries by train, because there are still people who were âfansâ of theirs during the Games. And idk this doesnât actually have much to do with my point lol but I liked it because itâs kind of fucked up and like! Yeah! It makes sense! If he needed money that would be a good way to make it! War often makes people rich, often for horrible reasons, and often itâs people who already have capital in the first place.
Anyway, more about the hypothetical bakery because alright. I bring up the fact that âyeah society not being all that different post-revolution and still being an unjust capitalist hellscapeâ could be a reason why Peeta re-opens a bakery because thatâs actually never the types of fics where I see the bakery headcanon. Fics where Peeta opens a bakery are usually trying to make the exact opposite point. Like. Things are getting better, now he can open a bakery! Look at how much better the world is now, plus heâs got a bakery! Peeta is healing, thatâs why he can open a bakery now! And I am so, so sorry to inform everyone whoâs never had the grave misfortune of owning a family business, but there is truly nothing further from the truth lmao. Like just putting aside the immense amount of emotional baggage that Peeta has about his family, running a small business is an insane amount of work in any context and being a baker especially is physically grueling and involves early hours (and long hours) that arenât really the best fit with the multiple ways that Peeta is disabled now. (I could go into this more because I have a lot of thoughts. But I will spare you.). I also think itâs seen throughout the books that Peeta is someone who needs time to pursue creative outlets to process his feelings and someone who values leisure and values quality time with his loved ones. And having grown up in his familyâs bakery, I think heâd understand the reality that running a bakery wouldnât leave much space of those pursuits and wouldnât leave much space for him to have the things that keep him healthy and stable. I think heâd know that the way he is nowâ after two Games and the war and unspeakable torture at the hands of a dictatorâisnât compatible with the lifestyle necessary for running a commercial bakery.
And tbh with that in mind, I donât think heâd push himself to re-open a business (one that would be a constant reminder of his dead family and his complicated relationships with them that got no closure) that would require him to sacrifice his physical and emotional well-being. Like I think he might look into the possibility, I think he might even start trying to open a bakery out of a sense of obligation/duty, maybe harboring some idea that this is who he was supposed to be, who he would've been without the Games, or that itâs this last piece of his family that can live on, or that itâs this last connection to his family so he canât let it die too. But ultimately, I think any attempt to open a bakery wouldnât get very far. Maybe he'd start wading into the logistical nightmare that is small business ownership and realize it's not for him (because it's probably also true that as much as him and his brothers were involved in the business, there's almost certainly parts they weren't involved with and didn't see, i.e., filing taxes). Or maybe looking into opening a bakeryâ how triggering it is, the stress of itâ causes a downward spiral. Maybe he hates how much he's worrying everyone by unraveling. Maybe having a breakdown from the stress of just trying to open a bakery makes him realize, yeah, maybe in another life he would have ran his familyâs bakery but the way he is now just doesnât work with running a bakery, not without great sacrifices he's not willing to make. I just canât see a bakery coming to fruition.
I know a lot of fics include Peeta deciding to reopen a bakery as a big step in his healing or include him rebuilding a bakery as part of his healing process but honestly, I think the opposite would be more true: I think Peeta either trying/failing to open a bakery or ultimately deciding not to open a bakery would be hugely healing for him. I think it would be a huge part of him accepting the way he is now as a person, his new limitations but also his strengths. I think it would be a huge part of him accepting the way his life his now and accepting that he likes his life the way it is, that heâs satisfied with his life without needing to own a bakery. I think it would be an important part of him coming to terms with the loss of his family. I think he knows he can never have things back as they were and I donât think he would try to recreate them, especially because his familyâs legacy isnât a business. I think heâs emotionally intelligent enough and self reflective enough to realize that what mattered to him about the bakeryâ taking care of others by feeding them, being integrated into his community and being actively involved in it, brightening peopleâs days with delightful things whether thatâs beautiful cakes or hearty food or delicious treatsâ and the things he learned from his family through the bakery, are things that he can carry on in other meaningful ways.
(Do you regret sending this ask yet, anon? Because if not, you will soon. Iâm not done yet. Thereâs more.)
I wasnât really sure where to put this next part in what is rapidly becoming an essay because it sort of combines the points about like âwhat do we imagine a post-mockingjay society to look likeâ with the practical difficulties of starting this bakery but hereâs another thing: do people really think that the Mellarks owned the land the bakery was on?? Like, sure, the merchants are the petit bourgeois of Twelve but I still donât imagine they really own anything. In a society where houses are assigned to people upon marriage, where property ownership and capital are so closely interconnected with citizenship (as shown by the Plinths who, by having immense capital, are able to leave their District and become citizens of the Capitol) do people really think the Mellarks would be allowed to own the land their bakery is on?? I always imagined it sort of like a tenant farming situation: the Capitol gives them the raw materials for the bakery and in return the bakery give them some absurdly high portion of their profits, or the Capitol sells them a yearâs supply of raw materials at a premium on credit and at the end of the year the Mellarks have to use the money they made with those materials to pay it back, except itâs never enough to turn a profit so they always have to buy next yearâs materials on credit and the cycle continues.
We (understandably) get a really skewed view of the merchant class through Katnissâs perspective so I can see why people come to the conclusion that his family owned the property and, as the last surviving member, he wouldâve inherited it. Iâve seen the inheritance thing in fics a lot or a hand wavey âwell Twelve was decimated to no one owns anything anymore so it can be hisâ or even like an almost sort of reparations type situation where heâs entitled to the land as a surviving refugee of Twelve. But I donât know. I guess I donât think it fits with everything else we know about Panem that the Mellarks wouldâve owned that land and I think the question of whether the government wouldâve let him take ownership of the land post-revolution brings up a lot of issues about the structure of society post-Mockingjay that I find more interesting to explore in other ways, especially when, from an emotional perspective, 1) I find the idea of Peeta not opening a bakery more compelling and 2) I donât think it really fits his character arc by the end of Mockingjay to reopen a bakery, as I went on about at length above lol.
On the flip side: literally who cares!! Do whatever you want!! Headcanon whatever you want!! I get why people go for the bakery!! Itâs fun, itâs wholesome, itâs a built in bakery AU that isnât even an AU. It doesnât matter if itâs practical or realistic!! It doesnât need to be practical or realistic!! Itâs fanfic of a dystopian YA series!! My unfortunate affliction is that I grew up in a family that owned a restaurant and that I have multiple degrees in the social sciences so I canât see the bakery without being like âWhat about the overheard? What about the start up costs? Whoâs spending long nights balancing the books? Is Peeta covering shifts when an employee calls in sick? Is Peeta the sole person working there until the bakery is open long enough (often a year or more) to start turning a profit? How does that sleep schedule work with his nightmares? How does that work with Katnissâs nightmares? What happens when he has an episode and suddenly needs to take the day off before he has any employees? Does the bakery just remain closed for the day? Can the profit margins withstand regular unexpected closures? Can the supplies withstand regular unexpected closures?â And if the answer is âElliott none of those things matter heâs not doing the bakery because he needs the money but because he wants toâ, then my question is why does he want to? Does he not get the same sort of satisfaction out of feeding his loved ones? Doesnât Peeta seem like someone who would rather give away baked goods than sell them?? Doesnât Peeta seem like someone who would prefer to make cakes for peopleâs special occasions upon and then when they insist on paying him for it, he only lets them âpay for the ingredientsâ which actually cost significantly more than he says they did??
So yeah my point is that itâs a matter of personal taste! It doesnât fit the way I see the series but that doesnât mean itâs like wrong, Iâm not an authority on Peeta lmao.
Itâs also a matter of personal taste in the sense that I find the themes that most resonate with me at the end of Mockingjay (and the end of Peetaâs arc specifically) more interesting to explore in other ways. Grief, living with loss, relearning yourself, finding hope, figuring out your place in a dramatically different world when you donât even know who you are anymore, healing, building a new life after such complete and total destruction of your old lifeâ those are all things I find compelling about the end of Mockingjay but for me the bakery isnât the most compelling way to explore them.
Not to say I find the concept of the bakery totally uninteresting. I have this fic about Johanna that Iâll probably never finish where the point sort of is that, yeah, her life really isnât all that much better after the war. Itâs been years at this point and sheâs still miserable and she doesnât know how to be a person but by the end sheâs trying to figure it out. And towards the end, Peeta tells her that heâs spent years sort of passively, half-heartedly trying to figure out how to inherit the land his familyâs bakery was on, only to find out it was never theirs in the first place. Theyâd been renting it the whole time and heâd never even known as a kid. So he sort of passively, half-heartedly went on another wild goose chase to find the owner and now, finally, after years of writing to various government agencies and being sent in circles and things being barely functional, heâs managed to track down the owner. Now itâs owned by the daughter of the man who owned it when he was a kid because the original owner (who was likely up to some sketchy war crime shit) died during the war and she inherited it (the ironyâŠ). He got in contact with her and asked how much it would take for her to sell it and she told him sheâs not interested in selling but in light of the situation, in light of the fact that heâd have to build a new building in order to operate a bakery, that sheâd cut him a dealâ sheâd only require 50% of the bakeryâs profits as rent instead of the 80% his family used to pay. And of course Johanna is outraged, thatâs not right, the owner shouldnât be allowed to do that, they should do something about it, they should fight back. And Peeta is like. Not interested. He was actually sort of relieved that opening wasnât very feasible. Getting the answer was a lightbulb moment where he saw that over the years of trying to look into this, heâs built a life that he likesâ one where heâs stable, where his loved ones are stable, where heâs cared for and can care for othersâ and he doesnât really want to change it drastically by opening a bakery anyway. He just needed an answer, one way or another, before he could get some closure and move on. (And the point of the conversation is Johanna is having her own lightbulb moment that itâs okay to move on, itâs okay to change, itâs not a betrayal of the people and things sheâs lost but thatâs not my point here!!).
But anyway. Thatâs obviously not about running the bakeryâ itâs about the choice to not run one.
Anyway!! Anyway⊠are you satisfied anon? Is this what you wanted?
Lastly, here is my most important qualm with the bakery headcanon: must Peeta be gainfully employed? Is it not enough for him to be Katnissâs boytoy? Canât he just paint and garden and bake and hang out with his girlfriend all day? Is that really too much to ask?
#peeta mellark#thg#the hunger games#the hunger games meta#anyway wow this got so long and I literally read it through one (1) time so uhhh sorry if this makes no sense!!#as I was doing my one read through and realized that one of my other thoughts on this is that yeah I can much more easily see the#headcanon that peeta like sells baked goods (probably at cost with no profit) out of his kitchen because thatâs much more flexible#and I think that would work a lot better with what like I guess Iâd call his psychiatric disability post mockingjay#and how heâd certainly want to take care of Katniss too#like that sort of flexibility makes a lot more sense for him and itâs like. if he doesnât bake for a few days or however long then itâs fin#itâs not a formal brick and mortar business#itâs just something heâs doing because itâs a way to be involved with people and a way to do something heâs passionate about#without there being waste and while covering some of the costs#and he doesnât have to like keep books or do payroll or any of the things I canât see him being very passionate about#as far as like bakery management goes Lmao he can just bake!!#but then I started getting into this whole thing about how that quote-unquote ârunning a businessâ like that (informally from your house)#is actually a really common practice for people living in poverty so probably something that Katniss and peeta wouldâve been familiar wirh#anyway and then this whole rant about how the emphasis on the brick and mortar bakery often goes hand in hand with#this widespread fandom thing of having a fundamental misunderstanding of how rural poverty works and what it looks like#but then I was too deep into it and said you know what? never mind! and deleted it lmao
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Why Spenser Starke is a Fantastic Horror GM (and the Core Fantasy in Candela Obscura)
So, I have seen some rancid takes about Spenser Starke online. Less so on this webbed site, largely because people around here are not in a pissing contest to prove whoâs the most cynical, superior, and dickish. But there have still been some mind-blowing ones, from âhe says UM too muchâ (guess who else does that? Brennan, but I donât see these people criticizing him), or âhe describes scenes like shots in a movie and thatâs BAD WRONGâ (while you might not stylistically enjoy it, I for one adore seeing a new interpretation of how to narrate while GMing, and think heâs doing great).
But the two that rub me the wrong way most are that he âcontrols the narrative too tightlyâ and doesnât allow the characters to meander too long before throwing them back into the narrative, and that heâs âtoo harshâ in that even mixed successes tend to net characters damage of some sort. I saw accusations of âGM vs Playerâ mentality, but everyone was clearly enjoying themselves and the experience.
And that, I think, highlights the fundamental disconnect between these complainers and whatâs actually happening on the screen: they donât understand the core experience.
They have likely never played horror TTRPGs. They may have never played TTRPGs period, and instead are armchair DMs based purely on how Matt and Brennan DM, not really understanding that there are a thousand other ways to DM. But if they have played TTRPGs, I would guess that theyâve exclusively played D&D or its ilk. And I say that because thereâs a very clear belief here that empowerment and âwinning the gameâ, as well as wandering about freely to create your own narrative at your own pace are all fundamental parts of the TTRPG experience as a whole. But they arenât. Theyâre fundamental to D&D, yes, but this is not what players come to a game like Candela Obscura for.
Each TTRPG has a central fantasy playing out. In D&D itâs heroic empowerment. D&D is mechanically built around getting more and more power and eventually defeating the big bad. A good GM in D&D, like Matt Mercer, focuses on giving out challenges, but always helping their players strive to overcome and grow and become better. This self-actualization is at the heart of the experience.
Horror games are not about that at all. The closest to that fantasy is something like âVampire the Masqeradeâ or other World of Darkness games, which do feature power growth, but the core fantasy is actually about learning that you are a monster. And embracing power will lead to even greater monstrousness. The horror in games like this is both political and personal, and the system is mechanically built to accommodate that horror.
And if you watch LA by Night or NY by Night, youâll actually see that Jason Carl employs a fairly similar narrative tightness to his storytelling as that of Spenser Starke. Because a huge part of horror is about establishing and maintaining a mood. To do that, a DM has to keep a tighter rein on pacing, cutting from scene to scene and moment to moment in a way that is more directed than in D&D, because that helps establish and maintain the vibe being created.
Candela Obscura plays, thematically, a lot like one of my favorite games to run: âCall of Cthulhuâ. CoC is a game all about disempowerment. The power differential between the players and the monsters is vast. Combat is vicious, short, and deadly, and direct combat almost always ends badly for an investigator. There is an entire chapter devoted to running away for a reason.
Both CoC and Candela are built on danger, vulnerability, and a constant sense of tension. And Spenser is fantastic at all of these. He keeps his narrative laser focused, moving between moments rapid-fire to keep up that tension, and to introduce new dangers. He is a âviciousâ DM only in so much as even mixed successes hurt. But this also keeps the tension up by keeping the characters and players on the edges of their seats. They are almost never safe. They are almost never well. They are constantly juggling dwindling resources. They are underpowered, vulnerable, and afraid.
And thatâs the core fantasy here: exploring fear in a safe way. Being stressed out in a way you can leave behind as soon as the scene is done. Constantly living on the edge, fighting the odds, and knowing that you likely wonât succeed or will only do so at great cost. And he is masterfully keeping that intensity running through each session.
He gives characters time to talk about themselves, time for scenes to play out, until he feels the tension begin to flag, and then he pushes on. He never lets the air go entirely out of the narrative sails. He has a great sense of when a character needs a moment (his use of the red PTSD lighting exemplifies how closely heâs paying attention to his players and adjusting the setting to fit their moods). He sometimes pushes on, gets pushback from a player who wants another beat, and is always happy to give that to them. He keeps the pace up, but is always very careful to make sure his players have what they need to still enjoy this particular experience.
All this is to say that Spenser is absolutely killing it at being an exemplary horror GM. His sense of pacing and tension, his ability to direct action while still always embracing player autonomy, and using the mechanics of the system to never allow them to feel entirely safe are all great tools in a horror GMâs toolkit.
Horror games are not for everyone. Certainly there are plenty of people who only ever want the hero fantasy of D&D, but I think itâs important to recognize what the goal of a game is, and what constitutes success within those parameters, rather than parameters that only exist in an audience memberâs mind, because they donât really get how horror games work.
#candela obscura#spenser starke#I was frankly shocked at how many people were bitching about him#and all their whining mostly boiled down to him not GMing a horror game like one would DM D&D#it was just a fundamental misunderstanding of how horror stories sort of have to get told#in order to actually scare your players#and give them the core experience of HORROR that they came to the table to feel#I love running horror games#I think Spenser is not only doing great#but heâs got quite a few tricks I want to try out myself#This is not DM vs Player mentality#this is literally just how you play these sorts of games#constantly being close to death or running out of resources
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i swear once iâm finished with the fashion history essay iâm going to write an equally long analysis solely about jatherine and javid because so many of you are so loud and so wrong about both. and the core of this is that you are wrong about jack
#jatherine has a Longer timeline than javid and somehow i never see the argument that jack didnât know davey well enough to love him#jack is a desperately lonely orphaned teenage boy with so much love to give and no ability to give it Well#the core of his character is that he loves both david and katherine!#if you donât think he loves katherine At All then that is a fundamental misunderstanding of him#it doesnât even have to be romantic love but he Loves Her#and that is Important#sorry iâm ranting again but you assholes keep main tagging your hate
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i haven't even seen the episode yet, but learning about the fact that they didn't include such an essential aspect of the story is making me feel so irrationally sad
#letters from stephanie*#idk maybe it isn't essential maybe it's just too important to me... but without it you take away so much from lila...#she's not a crazy person that is too enigmatic for the audience to understand... lila is the character you feel in your soul#not explain in a few sentences. there is no Grand Secret of Lila to be revealed. you feel her or you don't and that's it.#yeah this is my hot take on lila. if the main takeaway is that she's a mysterious madwoman you're treating her the same#way all those men did. why can't we just feel things why does it have to be written in big shining letters#to be considered real and human. idk idk idk#she is surrealism the spirit of surrealism packed in a person and i think that is the truth of life. to misunderstand this is to completely#miss the point of lila as a character#which is that we as humans invent shapes to store the incomprehensible in and in that we take away from the reality of life#the raw beating heart of life. lila cerullo who has spent her life in one place who didn't get to go to school#understood and saw this beating heart of the universe and while studying history of her city she gets to...#extend the logic of it to the whole universe. she recognises these historical facts within her own being#she finds her daughter in these stories and she runs to her. i am so upset about this#i have to watch the episode though i can't betray my fundamental belief that you have to face life no matter what#ferranteposting#l'amica geniale#s4 spoilers#my brilliant friend spoilers#lila cerullo đ«
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every time i blink theyre doing another terrible adaptation of a gothic novel will i ever be free
#why on earth would you cast another white actor as heathcliff#his experiences as a racialised man are integral to his characterisation like its not even subtext its text!!!!#the fact he's been almost exclusively depicted by white actors has enabled ppl to overlook this part of his character#and i just dont think another adaptation featuring a white heathcliff should exist#feeling mad as hell tbh#and lets not even get started on that god awful dorian gray adaption!!#everything about it is so bad i dont even have the energy to hash it out again#not to be a party pooper but im also dreading guillermo del toro's frankenstein i know im gonna hate it#why am i being punished for being invested in gothic literature and wanting better for books that mean a lot to me#we're in an adaptation hellscape atm so its not even just gothic lit#like that new rose of versailles adaptation pisses me off so bad too#it seems to exist for no other reason than because its a safe profitable option for the studio#and theyre trying to modernise the art style to make it more appealing to new viewers#which feels like a fundamental misunderstanding of ROV's appeal#Sometimes trying to make a work more palatable so it can be consumed by the most ppl possible is simply to degrade it#you're ironing out what makes it special to turn it into something more commercial a hollow shell of the original#i know everybody whose invested in art has been burned by this adaptation hellscape at least once I hope we'll be free of it one day#text post#wuthering heights
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sometimes furrys will just. describe being otherkin/therian and then b like "but I'm not alterhuman though :P"
#cipher's squawks#like again no hate but like. i think you fundamentally misunderstand smth abt being otherkin
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swifties turned football fans are actually the worst because they all talk like they're the authority on football SPECIFICALLY on kc football but literally every single post is giving every piece of credit to travis (who played objectively horrible the whole regular season) or they're shitting on teams who are objectively good for no reason and then calling people who have been fans of said teams longer than taylor swift has been making music strange for liking that team! while failing to realize! it's weirder to cheer for a team you have no familial/locational/sentimental roots to! just cause a music artist you like it dating one of the players like THAT is strange
#/ rooting for the team but constantly shitting on the team and the area and other players every chance you get#like i do think there are some who genuinely got into football and enjoy the sport#but majority are just major haters about everyone and everything that isn't taylor and travis which like#get a grip touch some grass watch basketball instead please!#especially if you're going to fundamentally misunderstand fan dynamics playing conditions ect basically everything about the game#and call objectively good teams and players bad real football fans hate their actual rivals (for kc that's the broncos and raiders btw not#the bills or the bengals those are a separate quarterback rivalry) like people who watch football watch because they actually like the sport#and being a part of a fan community for a specific team is just a bonus#jeez#eris: text#i would take the blonde man's fans over swifties in football i think#sports: football
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i did not know hazbin hotel was that bad plot wise lmao
#i just watched a video on it and like#look you can critique christianity but like it just fundamentally misunderstands what the fuck its trying to critique#like to a point its past critique and is just literal slop#very clearly written by someone who is an athiest to be edgy#and thinks just being made to go to church as a child was religious trauma
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