#and I got an A because I did my citations properly and referenced the reading a lot
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My aunt, a former AP English teacher who now does substitute teaching for middle schools, sent me a photo of one of her students' essays they were writing about game theory in the Pokemon TCG to ask me if it seemed written by AI because she knows nothing about Pokemon in general and it didn't make sense to her. I wrote her back a diatribe about how young students use AI to write their essays in the first place because they have 4 hours of homework a night and they're still expected to help around the house, socialize, go outside, keep up with the news/latest popular media, have hobbies, etc. and their only concern with schoolwork is handing in something that gets a good grade instead of absorbing anything, so if she wants her students to learn how to make good arguments or do proper research she has to focus on THAT instead of just giving them assignments that get graded because either she has to put more effort into checking each essay for signs of chatGPT nonsense or she has to put more effort into making sure the students learn things while in the classroom so they have time for everything else when they get home.
I hate so much that professors who still can't figure out how to send messages on Zoom think they're capable of spotting AI writing. Professors are just feeding essays into AI detectors with massive fail rates with absolutely zero critical thought about the tools they're using. I moved across state lines. I've spent years of my life trying to get this degree. But at any moment I could be expelled because I got a false positive from a detector that tells you ChatGPT wrote Anna Karenina.
#I have an English degree myself and I cannot stress how much I dislike the way essays are handled these days#even a decade and some ago when I was in college I suspected one professor of not really reading each writing assignment for an Anthro clas#so I put the word 'dishwasher' into each paragraph of a 5-page paper#not even in places 'dishwasher' should be#it was stuff like 'As the author points out the people of this tribe dishwasher associate x with y'#the professor circled three of them#and I got an A because I did my citations properly and referenced the reading a lot#if that's the focus of the assignment then you have to explain that#if the assignment is just 'turn in an essay about this topic with this citation format' and your students are really busy with other things#like having a part time job so they can afford classes because they aren't receiving scholarships due to faulty software flagging their wor#then the corner they're going to cut is the one that would take them twelve hours but an ai can cobble up something that passes in one or s
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I finally got around to doing a close reading of transcripts of the Tortoise episodes, and I am very glad that I did.
My view remains that I find all the allegations both very credible and very damning. The updates to my views are that I feel more positively (though not entirely positively) about Tortoise, and that there is a probable very bad actor in all of this that isn't getting nearly enough attention. (Not Amanda Palmer. Or well, yes Amanda Palmer, but she isn't who I'm talking about.)
Tortoise first.
I'd been seeing a lot of comments claiming that Tortoise was anti BDSM. I don't know what the people in the podcast have as their personal views, but they made a point multiple times to clarify that BDSM does not operate like what Neil Gaimen was alleged to have done, and the condemnation they had for the alleged actions was not a condemnation of consensual BDSM. As someone who has been very involved in BDSM community for decades, I am fully in agreement with everything the hosts have said. The line people got most hung up on was a guest expert snarking about degradation ever being consensual. It is ambiguous in context what definition of "degradation" he is using, but it seemed to me he was referring to processes of establishing coercive control, and not referring to degrading roleplay in a mutually invested, healthily negotiated kink scenario. My remaining critique on the host / guests perspective is that the language around abuse and coercive control used by the hosts and guests often presumes all abusers are male and all victims are female. It doesn't diminish the value of the rest of what they are doing, but I think it is worth being critical of as a side note.
The other big point of concern with Tortoise, which I got major bad vibes off of from day one, was the manner in which they talk about their "understanding of Neil Gaimen's position." That sets off my internal red flags because it immediately prompts the follow up questions, "How did you acquire that understanding?" "Who told you that?" "Why aren't you quoting and / or citing them?" I had been speculating that they were from his side of the communications provided by the people coming forward, or comments from lawyers that weren't being properly attributed. Council of Geeks had a great "Cite Your Sources!" whiteboard moment I would generally agree with.
However.
It turns out there is actually a good reason for the citation fuckery. I think a lot of people missed it, so I'm going to try to explain it. When the hosts are referencing communications provided by those coming forward, they say so. When they are referencing comments by lawyers, they say so. The issue is, the bulk of the time, their understanding is coming from piles of direct emails with Gaimen that are OFF THE RECORD. Journalists have to take that seriously to get to keep doing journalism. They are professionally obligated to NOT cite or quote him when he is off the record. Normally in such a situation journalists wouldn't do this squiggly 'our understanding of their views' thing, they would leave it out entirely to be on the safe side of their professional obligations. Sprinkled through the podcasts are comments about the moral importance of hearing from both sides, the great public interest need to hear from both sides. This is a very snarky justification for the game they are playing of vague-posting the gist of his off the record statements without ever putting the exact statement on the record.
A lot of their snark surrounding that, and some other bits, leave the very distinct impression that Gaimen and his lawyers have threatened legal action against Tortoise several times already. Honestly I hope that they do file legal action, as that would open Gaimen up to discovery. Discovery is a process by which Tortoise would be able to demand access to nearly all documents and / or electronic communications Gaimen has relating to the matter, and in doing so make them public. Discovery is far broader sweeping that what is admissible in court, because it has to be 'discovered' before the court can rule it admissible or not. But inadmissible thigs are still usually public record. A jury wouldn't see them, but we still can. Because of that, it is extremely unlikely that Gaimen will file a legal claim, but again, I truly hope that he does. Tortoise probably does too.
But there is another person deserving of investigation and discovery in all this.
The main focus of my current attention is from a bit in the first episode that jumped out at me. Like, it made my eyes bug out, jaw on the metaphorical floor, and I was shocked that I haven't seen it mentioned. But then I figured, people might just not have the context to know how big of a deal this is. So I'm going to talk about it.
According to Scarlett's account, after she came forward to Amanda, Neil asked her to take a call with a therapist that both he and Amanda see. It seemed like his financial assistance offer to her may have hinged on the call being part of the deal. At first read, it looks like Gaimen strongarming Scarlett to tell his therapist he didn't assault anyone. She does the call, and there is a message from the guy that seems designed to plant the suggestion in Scarlett that her friends are manipulating her into perceiving a consensual relationship as a non consensual one.
To me, that is a five alarm fire. Everything happening in there should not be happening, ever. A person who provides individual therapy should not provide it to both partners in a relationship. A person who provides relationship therapy should not be providing individual therapy to people in the relationship. (They should do one-on-one sessions with each in the context of the relationship therapy but that is different.) A therapist should not be framing things the way they are described in that message, or interacting that way towards someone who is not a client, particularly if they have a conflict with someone who is. Therapists are very aware of the potential for clients to coerce others into saying things that fit the client's narrative, and should not be encouraging them to try. And all that is before we even get to the part where he seems to have been tasked specifically to gasslight Scarlett into mistrusting herself and blaming her friends. By Scarlett's paper trailed account, this person should be facing very serious repercussions and investigation. According to Tortoise, he has not responded to any of their attempts to get in touch with him, and he has a phone that is set up to not accept voicemail.
The name of this alleged professional is stated in the podcast, so I looked him up. He is most widely known as an author. His first professional descriptor for himself is as an executive leadership mentor. That more or less translates to person who gives expensive pep talks to rich people. He is also a minister, and a 'consultant.' He does call himself a therapist, but he has no degrees, background, or training in psychology. His degree is from divinity school. He does not list any professional qualifications or certifications in mental health, he does not list any memberships in any mental health organizations. He did co-found an organization that appears to have put on motivational seminars for a variety of organizations. His 'client list' was last updated in 2012. His website has features that are only accessible by those who are 'fully committed.' He is based out of Arizona, USA.
Searching for his name + therapist will get you to a podcast episode with Amanda Palmer, where she had him on as a guest, described him as a therapist, her therapist, and her and Neil's relationship therapist, and promoted his books. It was recorded in 2019, and it is utterly vapid and out of touch from the both of them. Searching his name + therapist will not get you any information on his work as a therapist, because he is not a therapist.
He can't get stripped of his status as a mental health practitioner, because he isn't one. Tortoise states that he has protected confidentiality to Neil and Amanda. If he does have protected confidentiality, he has it solely through his status as a minister, not as a mental health professional because again, he isn't one. As a minister, he may have greater client privilege than an actual mental health professional, who would be required to break privilege if they have reason to believe their client is a danger to themselves or others. Religious client privilege is very strongly protected in most of the US even if the client is explicitly planning to commit specific acts of violence. This might be the main selling point to people who choose to work with ministers who pretend to be therapists rather than actual therapists.
Scarlett doesn't have confidentiality much less privilege by any avenue, his communication with her did not form a professional relationship despite the ways his message seemed to blur those lines, which would have left him free to pass on whatever she said to Neil and Amanda. That would also open the door for him to corroborate what Scarlett told him to the media, but my impression is that if he can be contacted, he will cite a duty to his real client, Neil Gaimen, to avoid saying anything. This is one of many reasons why real therapists do not take clients who have potential conflicts of interest with their other clients. I can't tell from the content of either podcast to what extent he may have materially represented himself to be an actual mental health professional to his clients, but if he has done so he absolutely should be liable if not culpable for that.
I would like to see this man investigated to hell and back, but I don't know if anyone in the media is going to bother. For anyone who needs to hear it, do not go to therapy with someone who isn't a licensed mental health professional. Do not have the same individual therapist as your romantic partner(s). If you are setting up couples therapy, it needs to be with someone who has never met either of you before, and you make first contact with them as a unit.
Obligatory this is all personal opinion disclaimer. The internal states of public figures cannot be determined or scientifically evaluated by their public statements / appearances / works / ect... I am not the behaviour panel, nor do I endorse that kind of thing. But under certain circumstances I am willing to put out some personal opinions about what certain actions, if they happened, would seem to suggest.
I've been saying for a while now, the allegations paint a very strong and compelling picture of Gaimen knowing what he was doing and engaging in deliberate strategy even if he can make pocket experiences for himself where he gets to believe that the relationships were real. I think the evidence pointing towards Gaimen having a long running pseudo 'therapist' he is comfortable sending his accusers to talk to, who then encourages the accuser to think their friends are controlling them, speaks to how deeply this approach to life can saturate a person's existence. When I say 14 represents a lifestyle choice, these are the kinds of things I'm talking about. Someone who fucked up and made a few grievous errors, and did soul searching, and is trying to do better doesn't send their victims to their on call professional gassligter with religious privilege who they outsource to. This looks like 'life revolves around finding ways to control and silence people' level shit.
#neil gaimen#amanda palmer#tortoise podcast#no specific SA acts are mentioned or described#neil gaiman#fake therapist#fake minister
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Day Ninety-Eight
Ooof. Today was a long one. I actually just got home.
My World lesson was a good one, though. Students read and analyzed Warsan Shire’s poem “Home” last class/for homework, so we started class today by discussing what they thought of it, and then I quoted a couple lines and asked if students knew what they might be referring to, which was my transition into talking about doing research. One of the lines is “no one puts their children in a boat unless the water is safer than the land,” and I asked if students knew who Alan Kurdi was. They didn’t, so I asked how we could find out, and, of course, they said, “Google!”
So I Googled his name, pulled up some information about his death, and read it to them. Few of them come into class knowing how to properly cite researched information- they may have gotten some practice if they had English last semester, but that’s it- so I paraphrased what I’d read on the board, and showed them how to do an in-text citation and a full MLA citation (both manually and using the tool in Google Docs). After that, I had students find out some info about two other things referenced in the poem (child soldiers and La Bestia), and cite that info themselves.
Lastly, I assigned current events, which obviously require those research and citation skills. For those who haven’t been long-time readers of this blog, I tell students to create a little multimedia presentation to explain something that’s happening in the world right now- their choice- and cite the information properly. It’s good practice, and gets them reading and/or watching the news.
It all went super well in my Block 1 class. Students were a little bit hesitant, at first, to discuss the poem, but once one person told me one of the lines she’d found impactful, others followed, and then everything was fine. They picked up the citations stuff super quickly and their current events look so good. In my Block 2 class, things started out well. We even went on a tangent because when I did the research and citation example using Alan Kurdi, students reacted quite strongly to his story and had lots of questions about what had happened, I ended up showing a clip from 4.1 Miles so they could see how overcrowded refugee rafts were, how flimsy their life vests were (if they had them at all), how windy and dangerous the sea is... and then they had more questions, and some of those loud boys I’ve mentioned in past entries expressed some empathy with the refugees they hadn’t thought much of a day ago.
Buuuut then later, when they were looking up current events, they kept shouting about how Joe Biden’s going to make the USA communist, and vaccines will kill us or give us autism, and “they” are coming to take guns away. It’s the shouting that’s really grating. I mean, so is the inaccuracy, but the shouting is what’s going to drive their classmates crazy. I’m going to assign seats tomorrow and see if that brings the volume down. If not, I’ll have to start sending them out of the room, which isn’t something I like doing, but I have to consider their impact on everyone else. Here’s hoping it won’t come to that, or, if it does, not often.
Anyways, I ended up staying late to grade assignments and prep for tomorrow. I changed up about half the lesson I’d originally planned, so I had to make some new photocopies, that sort of thing. I ended up chatting with Mrs. T, too, and that was good. We both talked about how things have been going, and what we’ve got coming up, and she approved of the changes I made to tomorrow’s lesson. Sometimes, it’s just good to talk out an idea and have someone else confirm that it’s a good one, you know?
#teaching#teachblr#edublr#educhums#education#teacher#high school#social studies#conversations about current events#4.1 miles#warsan shire#day ninety eight#Mrs. T
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