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Blake: (signing to Yang)
Yang: Okay, I think I got this! (Struggles to make same signs using one hand and fails gloriously)
Blake: (laughing so hard that she's crying)
Weiss: (wearing protective eyewear) Ruby, what's going on?
Ruby: Yang’s trying to learn Sign Language.
Weiss: Sign language?
Ruby: Yup!
Weiss: The amputee is learning Sign Language?
Ruby: From Blake.
Weiss: From the mute, deaf girl.
Ruby: Hey, it could be worse. Blake could be trying to teach you.
Weiss: ......
Ruby: Too far?
Weiss: I'll let you decide. (Grabs her cane and walks up the small set of steps)
Ruby: Weiss! (Rolls wheelchair over to the steps) Come on! That's not fair!
#bumbleby#yang xiao long#blake belladonna#rwby#weiss schnee#ruby rose#rwby disabilities#deaf and mute blake#blind weiss#paraplegic ruby#amputee yang#the things Im stuck having to read for my graduate degree inspired this one
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modern AUs that dont make yang an amputee are boring and dumb send tweet
#rwby#yeah she lost her arm in a somewhat fantastical way#but i hope yall remember amputees are like. not a fntasy concept#maybe adam like. tboned her car#idk#i just think its cheap to remove a disabled character#when yang is such good disability representation in the first place#im just saying if weiss still gets her eye scar yang should still be an amputee#yang xiao long rwby#yang xiao long
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Yang's Boomstick
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Definitely relevant for sure. I can think of Yang as a primary example of this... with her prosthetic arm and all.
#ableism#disability#amputee#reblog#cyborg#fantasty#science fiction#sci fi#trace your logic#representation#yang xiao long
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Do You Know This LGBTQ+ Disabled Character?
Yang Xiao Long is an amputee and has Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. She is WLW and uses she/her pronouns.
#poll#polls#disability#disabled characters#lgbtq#lgbtq characters#id in alt text#yang xiao long#rwby
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LGBTQ+ Disabled Characters Showdown Round 3, Wave 2, Poll 1
A character being totally canon LGBTQ+ and disabled was not required to be in this competition. Please check qualifications and propaganda before asking why a character is included.
Check out the other polls in this wave and prior here.
Yang Xiao Long-RWBY
Qualifications:
She is canonically wlw (has been for years but specifically kissed and got together with her now girlfriend in the latest season) and uses a prosthetic arm and has been shown to struggle with PTSD due to the traumatic nature of losing it during the show.
Canonically had her right arm chopped off, uses a prosthetic. Has PTSD. Is canonically in a WLW relationship.
She has a canon girlfriend and canonically has a prosthetic arm and PTSD
She's canonically sapphic (part of a recently canonised wlw slowburn relationship) and is an amputee (due to events from the 3rd season finale) who wears a robotic prosthetic. She also suffers from PTSD which is explored in the show
Propaganda:
I will keep on submitting Yang to relevant brackets until I die. RWBY has plenty of strengths and weaknesses with writing, especially Yang's recovery arc, but instead of forcing her to push past her trauma and enter the battlefield immediately, we see her struggle with it, take time to process, and not be pushed into repression and when she chooses to wear her prosthetic, chooses to train to ready herself, and chooses to seek out her family and save lives, she isn't perfectly healed, as no one is. The show depicts her having flashbacks due to sudden loud noise, shaking hand the first few times she has to fight for her safety instead of training with her dad, and snapping at friends when they bring up Blake, the person she lost her arm trying to save (who, near immediately after ran away due to feeling she was endangering those she loved, furthering Yang's already present abandonment issues.) It isn't done perfectly but the intentions and general message sent are extremely positive and honest. She struggles less as the show progresses, and there are opportunities to consider herself less for being disabled or "become whole again" but she explicitly refutes these ideas and says that's she's better because of her failures and losses, and isn't any less whole. Her becoming disabled is also extremely tied to her being LGBT, because, as previously mentioned, she lost her arm protecting her then friend and partner, now girlfriend, directly after the villain who cut her arm off told her love interest that he would "destroy everything [she] love[s]. (Camera pans to Yang, he looks at her.) Starting with her." LIKE. He attacked her BECAUSE Blake cared for her so much and Yang ran to her defense blindly BECAUSE she loved Blake so much. When they reunite, they struggle with communication because Yang feels Blake is seeing her as weak, and through several things, mostly a climatic battle against the man who severed Yang's arm, they affirm each other as equals. I can go on but this is already too long. YANG SWEEP!!!!!
Yang lost her arm while protecting her best friend and future girlfriend from said girlfriend's abusive ex. Had a whole arc about learning to live with that loss and dealing with PTSD. Is totally devoted to and in love with Blake Belladonna and is just the sweetest but most badass character in the show.
She's one of the main characters, and just finished a 10 year slow burn romance. Plus, she has both physical and mental disabilities, but is never treated as lesser or incomplete.
Yang Xiao Long was one of the first examples of a sapphic character I ever saw in animated media with her character journey in the show being an iconic part of my teenage years and current young adulthood. The loss of her arm after a traumatic event in the show's 3rd volume was one of the big shockers of the show that nobody saw coming. Since then the show has done an amazing job in exploring both the mental and physical effects of her losing a limb, gaining a prosthetic arm and the recovery journey. Her character also has a major arc regarding handling her PTSD from both this and her past most notably in the 5th and 6th volume. Her character also has a slow-burn romance with her teammate and fellow main character Blake Belladonna which is one of my fave romances ever (it has everything: canon soulmates, friends to lovers, sunshine x grump,battle couple etc..) that has recently became CANON BABIEE!!! There are MULTIPLE characters in RWBY with various disabilities that are handled well in the narrative but i would say Yangs definitely the top FAVE!
Harrier ‘Harry’ du Bois-Disco Elysium
Qualifications:
Bisexual. Struggles with addiction, post-polio syndrome, multiple kinds of mental illness, and whatever else he's accrued by living in a city with no accessible healthcare.
Propaganda:
You know who he is. Vote for him.
#polls#poll#disability#disabled characters#lgbtq#lgbtq characters#id in alt text#lgbtq dcs round 3#lgbtq dcs r3 wave 2#yang xiao long#rwby#harry du bois#harrier du bois#disco elysium
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Day 209- Yang Xiao Long (PTSD and Amputee)
Happy Birthday to Yang!
#day 209#yang xiao long#rwby#disability pride#july#art#dragon#dragon a day#daily dragon#illustration#greenlight volume 10
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ngl adam’s grimm mask idea always struck me as brilliant response to what was done to him. a human branded his face with the corporate logo of a company notorious for exploiting faunus workers and the point of the grimm mask is to make sure that the people who did that don’t get to see the scars they inflicted but can never forget what he chooses to look like. and he came up with that very early in his activism, at a time when he genuinely was this righteous freedom fighter. it’s one of his best moments imo and really drives home just how far he fell between then and his final moment of twisting that pain into something to stab blake with.
but re: “naked and unafraid” hhhooly moly. that feels especially fucked for the context of comparing cinder’s non-presentation of her scars to nora’s bc like. 1. nora’s scarring is a LOT more extensive, to the point that unless she ditches her entire wardrobe she really can’t cover them completely even if she wants to? and 2. it’s heavily implied in 8.11 that she asked jaune to try to heal them for her and when he can’t she very defeatedly tells him not to apologize bc it’s her own fault that she got hurt! she’s not okay with having them! to her they represent everything she doesn’t like about herself!! it’s going to take a long time for her to process her feelings about the injury itself and the older emotional pain that she’s associated with the scars and while obviously she’s going to get to a better, happier place eventually she’s not there yet and that’s fine. she’s allowed to not feel good about her scars. preaching to the choir here i know but god
One thing I've noticed is that the fandom has a VERY voyeuristic view on the "validity" of scars: i.e. Adam, Cinder, and Ironwood hiding their scars/disabilities is a moral failing they should be ashamed of.
And like, I don't even LIKE any of those characters and I feel like that's incredibly disrespectful to say, especially given that Blake ALSO hides her scars from Volume 3 and the show treats it as an extremely violating experience when her scar is exposed against her will.
So hiding one's own scars clearly isn't meant to be a moral failing so much as it is a personal choice.
mm yeah. voyeuristic isn’t the word i would use necessarily but i have noticed the tendency for there to be a double standard in how the fandom at large interprets the scars and disabilities of heroic vs villainous characters. (you know what really grinds my gears? the “cinder’s redemption will be predicated on ruby mercifully vaporizing her arm instead of killing her :)” theory. yeah i’m sure being dismembered again is gonna make her a better person! christ.)
and that happens with. well basically everything, really? the villains are widely read in the narrowest, most morally rigid, judgmental way possible and the heroes are read in opposition to that—tbh i think a big factor here is that rwby is interrogating the conventional moral schema of modern fantasy and people are either uncomfortable with that or missing it altogether and overlaying those moral conventions onto the story. but another part of it imo is this weirdly individualistic reading of rwby’s core themes. people grasp that there’s a pattern here of the heroes healing after trauma and the villains not being able to do that, conclude that this is a personal moral failing of the villains, and generalize that conclusion to their reading of these characters overall; when the point actually being made in the narrative itself is that people need people, that healing is impossible without the support of a loving community, and that goodness is a communal effort.
and there’s also this… general lack of interest in contextual nuance which, in the case of scarring, gets people to “cinder keeping her hair the same after a horrible facial injury and ironwood, the guy who lives in the freezing polar north, wearing a glove over his steel hand has got to be because they’re hiding their scars/prosthetics out of shame!” even though that is… obviously not what’s really happening, and then moral judgment gets tacked onto that interpretation because the characters are villainous so every choice they make must be wrong.
it’s frustrating and it gets thoughtlessly ableist reeeal fast.
#in a similar vein the flattening of yang’s complicated feelings about her arm#in order to rhetorically position her as the correct kind of amputee vs ironwood#makes me want to scream
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I'd seen people talk before about how yang became much less feminine once she was an amputee/was gearing up to get with Blake and honestly I don't think that really sunk in until arrowfell.
There is a notable difference between how yang is depicted vs how the other girls are. They have visible lips, soft coloring around their eyes, and notably yang isn't drawn as busty as she is in canon. Being busty isn't inherently sexual. It's a normal thing for some people to just have a larger chest but the choice to make yang more flat than the others feels intentional.
Yang was one of the more girly in the group at the start
She's drawn as soft and flirty in a way that leads to it being a bit of a surprise when she's the brawler of the group. She wears skirts and is comfortable in heels. Out of the 4 it's Ruby who is the tomboy. Ruby who is averse to fancy dresses and heels, who dresses practical constantly.
But when yang loses her arm, we see a shift.
Now I don't think the shift in her visual in volume 4 is bad necessarily. Her losing a portion of her body and not being capable of finding her identity following that makes sense. Her dressing less like her usual self is fine in theory. But that's not what the intention of the shift was and it's clear once we get to volume 7.
Now I Want to note: I'm a massive volume 7 yang design fan. But I can also acknowledge how bias' might have shaped it. It's also important to note we don't actually have a super feminine character with a prosthetic in the show.
Queer and physically disabled people both have an issue in media of them almost being seen as seperate from feminity. As if you need a certain level of physical perfection to perform it. Before Yang, the only female character with physical evidence of a battle injury was Weiss who has a tiny facial scar that to me isn't at all reflective of the actual fight she was in. It's a delicate injury.
I think this shift was also tied to the fandom perception that yang being a brawler means she has to be more masculine by nature when her original design was a subversion of it. Her shift was done so most of the fandom didn't even notice it was there.
Note: I don't think the writers did it maliciously I think it was unconscious bias that caused it. I'm not trying to hate on them, but I do think it's worth a mention
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Do You Know This Disabled Character?
Yang Xiao Long is an amputee and has PTSD.
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I do believe that Yang was largely left responsible for Blake’s knowledge of all the shit going on, and I do think that while Yang was going through her ptsd amputee all that matters depression spiral this was a mistake, however it has some very funny implications
If Blake asked Weiss about it she’d just back Yang up like “no yeah some birds aren’t real keep up”
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I have one tiny, itty bitty criticism of RWBY I would like to see changed. I would love to see more of yang without her prosthetic. I know it is very much a part of her, but amputees (at least the few I know) do not typically use their prosthetics 100% of the time. In the atlas montage she even appears to be sleeping with it on. I know that Atlas tech is far more advanced and comfortable then fake limbs IRL but IDK I would like to see her just hanging out with the team or Blake with it off. I think it would also symbolise how she's finally letting her guard down because its also one of her weapons. This is such a minor thing but the writers and animators have been so good with Yang's status as an amputee I would just like to see this included as well. let Yang show off her stump!
You know, I almost said that it's probably because they couldn't afford to create and animate a separate model but definitely post V9 that doesn't seem to be an issue.
So hopefully. It would definitely be a nice touch.
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Omg the way I want Ashley Johanna Williams and Yang Xiao Long to meet
Bimbos
Amputees
Having little sisters
Never finished college
Nice tits
Having one parent who cast them aside
Iconic modes of transportation
Trauma
Using bravado to mask said trauma
Action girls™
Loving women juice
They’d be best friends!!!!!
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RWBY Versus Series: Adam Taurus vs. James Ironwood
"But fear itself isn't worthy of concern, it is who we become while in its clutches. Will you be proud of that person? Will you forgive them? Will you understand why they felt the need to do the things they did? Will you even recognize them? Or will the person staring back at you be the very thing you should have feared from the start?"
PHYSICAL
At first glance, this seems like a very simple conclusion to reach. While Adam Taurus certainly has James Ironwood beat in terms of physical health and wellness (blind in one eye vs. triple amputee with half your chest gone, one is decidedly worse), Ironwood’s alterations and implants more than make up for his poor condition. Though originally a run of the mill homo sapian, James Ironwood is now more machine than man, with superhumanly strong prosthetic limbs and built in armor turning him into a veritable juggernaut. As a Faunus, Adam may have anatomical traits that put him beyond your typical human by way of his horns and likely night vision, but these traits are either vestigial or useless on neutral ground, and his is otherwise just another squishy meatbag. Ironwood’s superior anatomy carries directly over to physical performance levels, boasting physical strength that is light years beyond anything Adam could muster up. Yes, carving through military-grade robots like they were nothing is a testament to a heavy hitter, but it really doesn’t compare to being able to manhandle a Beowolf with only one hand. Ironwood’s superior might is further supported by his agility, bringing every ounce of his weight and might to his target every time. Adam may be able to brace himself to deflect a flying Blake, but Ironwood doing the same would be far beyond his ability to handle. While Adam’s performance against Yang Xiao Long proves that he can contend with physically stronger opponents, this is all he can do, and jockeying in an arm-wrestling contest with Ironwood is well beyond his capabilities. Quite simply, Ironwood’s body is 50% metal and he’s all the more dangerous for it.
However, despite the General’s overwhelming physical might, this is not a one-sided contest, as his Faunus opponent boasts some critical physical advantages of his own. Adam may not have any anatomical advantages he can leverage over Ironwood, but he does enjoy a significant age gap, at minimum 20 years. Additionally, much like Cinder Fall, Adam’s impaired eyesight is not a gamebreaker, as he has never been seen suffering from a physical blind spot, owed to either Aura-enhanced senses or simple muscle memory. In terms of athletic ability, Ironwood’s titanic strength is matched and countered by Adam’s mind-numbing speed. Simply put, if Adam can keep pace with Blake, casually run laps around Yang, and demonstrate blatantly superior acrobatic ability, then Ironwood is going to have his work cut out for him. Dexterity and reflex also go to the High Leader, demonstrating greater precision and control in his sword style than the General’s simple pistol whips. Ironwood’s ability to match and arguably defeat Winter Schnee, to whom Adam is easily comparable, is proof that he can deal with speed demons, but as with Adam and his strength, that’s the limit. He can contend with Adam’s speed, but he can’t actually match or surpass him. As far as health and athleticism is concerned, Adam Taurus and James Ironwood demonstrate a balance of opposites. Both are stronger in areas the other is, while certainly not weak, comparatively lesser in, and either getting the opportunity to leverage that superiority could affect the tide of the whole battle. If Yang can overpower Adam, so can Ironwood. If Winter can outpace/fence Ironwood, so can Adam. Both have proven they can engage such opponents without being overmatched, so neither will be able to coast by on strength or speed alone in this fight.
This dynamic of opposing strengths and weaknesses carries over to their respective endurance and tolerances. Once again, Ironwood’s cybernetics afford him a clear and distinct advantage over Adam, his natural armor and displays of physical hardiness allowing him to work through hits that would leave the High Leader a burned-out husk. Getting back up after getting punched into a crater is great and all, but it’s not the same as literally burning the skin off of your own arm, and that’s before we consider that Adam’s last bits of Aura were taking most of the damage. But on the other hand, it is worth noting that Ironwood’s superior displays have been the direct result of him allowing himself to take the hits even when he doesn’t have to. Combined with his visible fatigue against the subversive Watts and his brief clashes with JNR and Winter, Ironwood’s survivability in the long term has a distinct cap. Conversely, Adam’s final confrontation with Blake and Yang was anywhere from double to triple the length of Ironwood’s fight with Watts, during which he was executing his own intense energetic fighting style the entire time and facing opponents whose offensive pressure slaps anything Watts could muster up. Despite that, Adam still had enough energy to keep fighting unaffected after losing his Aura, and considering just how much punishment Blake and Yang had to subject him to in order to finally get him to that point, I would say that Adam has the stamina advantage by quite a significant margin. Mental health and discipline follow a similar pattern. Adam is the more unstable of the two, his violent outbursts being far more pronounced, whereas Ironwood’s military discipline leaves his composure far stronger to the point of apathy. Yet Ironwood’s ruthless determination still compels him to take unnecessary risks, while Adam, be it by either cowardice or pragmatism, has shown a willingness to pace himself and cut his losses if need be.
As overall physical specimens, Adam Taurus and James Ironwood display a balance of major advantages and disadvantages over the other that match up extremely well. Adam is younger, faster, more sustainable, and better at staying alive, while Ironwood is tougher, stronger, better equipped, and better at keeping his cool. Both are well optimized to take advantage of their opponents’ weaknesses, and both are ruthless enough to fight to the death if need be. As such, this verdict is determined by the severity of the disparities in their respective performances, and it is here where Ironwood’s enhancements give him a leg up. Adam may have been able to contend with Yang Xiao Long’s greater strength and fortitude, but Ironwood is very likely stronger and tougher than Yang, making his advantage over the Faunus that much more substantial. By contrast, Adam merely matches Winter Schnee’s agility, he does not surpass it, so his speed advantage is not enough to put the general too far out of his comfort zone. Adam can potentially turn this dynamic around through skill at arms, but he cannot overcome Ironwood on the back of raw physicality. To be clear, Ironwood still has an uphill battle ahead of him, as Adam’s own strengths and displays mean that he cannot afford to coast by on strength and endurance. It must be remembered that Ironwood’s superiority is wholly in the fact that his cybernetics expanding the strength and durability gap wider than the speed and stamina gap, the latter of which are still eggs in Adam’s basket. I will go so far as to say that if we were examining a hypothetical non-cyborg Ironwood, then Adam would sweep the edge on the back of his youth. As it stands, however, Adam’s only hope lies in skill and power, and a battle of the body is Ironwood’s to lose.
James Ironwood gets the edge for Physical Ability and Equipment.
MARTIAL
Starting from the top with a comparison of their weaponry, both Adam Taurus and James Ironwood carry one standard firearm as part of their primary arsenal, their respective standard performances being more or less comparable. Where the weapon sets diverge from this point demonstrate the differences in each warrior’s approach. With Blush’s ability to shoot Wilt as a projectile, its use as a close-quarters bludgeon, and the versatility Wilt boasts as a sword, Adam’s arsenal provides a wider range of options in battle, which his fighting style fully leverages. With the secondary explosive rounds of Due Process’s silver half and the gravity Dust in the black half, Ironwood boasts an array of distinct yet extremely powerful attack modes which he then layered on top of each other. While both combatants have experience contending with each other’s outliers, meaning there is no significant gamebreakers, Adam’s more diverse arsenal and superior melee options do make him overall better armed.
Carrying over from the differences in their weapons, the combatants’ fighting styles are worlds apart yet have similar emphases. Adam Taurus’s technique is a sophisticated yet vicious method designed to overwhelm his targets with sheer speed and ferocity, while turning away any retaliation by way of evasive maneuvers and active defense and counters. Meanwhile, James Ironwood’s style is the manifestation of strength and power, leveraging his overwhelming might for maximum effect to pound his opposition into submission, relying on his fortitude to soak up anything the enemy brings to bear before responding in kind. One relies on a refined core technique that blends his diverse skill set into a singular, high performance fighting style, and the other relies on a much simpler technique that allows him to dominate the combat through the direct application of power. Both emphasize heavy offense as their first response, defending when needed when that fails before quickly regaining their momentum, in keeping with their mutual objective of dominating and controlling the engagement. Furthermore, both have shown great success at landing counters on overly aggressive opponents, while they themselves have both overextended when facing defensive opponents. While I do consider Adam’s guerilla assassin style as more refined than Ironwood’s gritty boxing style, the skill gap is not substantial. Between Adam’s repeated victories over Blake Belladonna and parity with Yang Xiao Long versus Ironwood overpowering Arthur Watts and fighting evenly with Winter Schnee, their developed skill levels are more or less on par. Technical sophistication will not be enough to allow the Faunus to simply outfence the general, especially given how Ironwood’s power is something that Adam has come up short against in the past. To be fair, though, the same can be said of Ironwood, as evasive duelists are well-optimized for staying out of his crosshairs. Experience-wise, Ironwood certainly has a significant edge over Adam by way of his greater years, affording him training and fighting time that Adam simply didn’t live long enough to accumulate. That being said, the value of Ironwood’s experience is undercut by the fact that he has spent the better part of his career behind a desk rather than on the battlefield, whereas nearly all of Adam’s comparatively shorter career was spent fighting, leading White Fang raids practically every other Tuesday.
With their skill sets and skill levels so closely matched, the most relevant factor in this verdict is going to be their respective tactical sensibilities, ironic given their mutual legacy of disastrous decision making. Both Adam and Ironwood are ruthlessly domineering fighters whose primary strategies center around asserting their control over the situation, their differing methods being paths to roughly the same destination. Adam’s strategy of active defense and counter allows him to turn any attack back on his opponent while he rushes in to eviscerate the target before they have time to recover, preventing his target from bringing their full might to bear against him. Meanwhile, Ironwood’s approach of enduring and powering through allows him to blunt any spearthrust against him before coming crashing against the opponent’s guard with more force than most are reasonably prepared for. Both frequently open as the aggressor, moving to overwhelm the enemy directly while refusing to give an inch of ground. Failing that, though they don’t like doing so, both are able and willing to fall back on defense to wait for an opportunity to counterattack. Due to his overwhelming offensive might, Ironwood would certainly dominate in a head-to-head engagement, bullying through Adam’s more refined technique with brute strength and pounding him into submission. However, I do not believe that Adam would fall into this trap. As a guerilla fighter, Adam has consistently been in a position where he does not have the strength to meet his opponents head-to-head. Instead, he opted to use that strength against the opponent, taking advantage of their overextended attacks to rush in, get inside their guard, and cut them down, or simply relying on his Semblance to use their own energies against them. Yang proved that the best way to defeat Adam is to play defense rather than offense, denying him the openings he needs to exploit, forcing him to come to you, and ultimately using his own tactics against him. This is simply something Ironwood doesn’t do. Whether barefisted or guns-ablazing, Ironwood is an offensive dervish, charging in and attempting to overpower his opponent directly with overwhelming might. On the one hand, this makes Ironwood extremely vulnerable to Adam’s counters, as he will be forced to chase after the Faunus and meet him on his own terms. But on the other hand, Ironwood’s sheer output is beyond anything Adam has encountered beforehand, meaning that if the general is able to get his adversary between a rock and a hard place, Adam could get into trouble very quickly.
As such, this is going to hinge heavily on Adam’s ability to contend with Ironwood’s offensive. The practical benefits of Ironwood’s simpler, stronger fighting style are best expressed in a close-quarters engagement; as with Winter, Adam’s refined swordplay will merely allow him to contend in a pure hand-to-hand brawl. However, Ironwood’s weapons of choice are firearms, meaning that he is just as likely, if not more so, to open with gunplay to strike his opponent at range. Therefore, the big question is this; can Adam Taurus reliably defend himself against James Ironwood’s primary forms of attack? Yes, he can. Guns are exactly what he built his defensive technique to address, and advancing vanguards are exactly what his hit-and-run tactics are meant to subvert. If he can deflect a firing squad’s worth of rifle fire, he can keep pace with Ironwood’s trigger speed. And if he can endure Yang’s machine gun punching spree long enough to find an opening to evade, he can certainly work his way around Ironwood’s more sluggish advance. Furthermore, Adam’s own marksmanship and unarmed skill, while outclassed by Ironwood’s, will still be adequate to interfere with the general and wear him down, whether by interfering with his focus in his normal state or chipping away at his Aura when he’s going full Mettle. Where Winter was trying to whittle him down with precise cuts, Adam would be tearing into his exposed flank. However, this isn’t to say that Adam will simply be able to dance circles around Ironwood and slice him to ribbons. We’d still be experiencing something of a stalemate here, as Ironwood’s sheer output still eclipses what Adam has confirmed experience with, meaning he is still going to be a serious danger if he gets the chance to properly leverage his own offensive power. Outside of Yang (who eventually killed him), all of Adam’s confirmed or implied opponents have been fellow skill-based warrior assassins like himself rather than domineering juggernauts. If Ironwood is able to get his target between a rock and a hard place, Adam would ultimately get crushed underfoot.
Making Adam and Ironwood’s dynamic with each other even more significant is the fact that their weaknesses are centered around their inability to deviate from their chosen patterns. Both combatants have come up short against each other’s fighter type in the past, Adam falling to a heavy-handed brawler in Yang Xiao Long, and Ironwood a dynamic speed fencer in Winter Schnee. In both cases, their only recourse was to double down and escalate rather than adopt a more appropriate strategy, meaning they ultimately had nothing to fall back on when overwhelming force wasn’t enough against their more measured opponents. And this approach would be equally ineffective against each other given they are both equally unyielding when their backs are to the wall. A pure contest of martial skill between these two would be both a spectacular display of combative talent and a savage war of annihilation. And given their shared mastery of contrasting fighting styles and tactics, their ruthless aggression, and the significant strengths and weaknesses they have over each other, I don’t see either combatant as having any sort of decisive advantage over the other.
I declare Adam Taurus and James Ironwood EQUAL as Martial Artists and Combat Strategists.
SPECIAL
Adam Taurus and James Ironwood are physical combat specialists who use their Semblances as a direct supplement to their martial techniques, and their applications of their abilities play directly into their respective strategies. With Moonslice, Adam’s approach of defense and counter is given a whole new dimension, with each blow he blocks or deflects providing him with fuel to unleash a devastating counterattack. Meanwhile, Mettle perfectly plays into Ironwood’s endurance strategy by giving him the means to leverage his strength and power without interference or distraction from even his conscious mind. However, when efficiency and application are added to the mix, one power is easily more viable than the other. While Mettle does reinforce and elevate Ironwood’s performance to a substantial degree, its nature as an inwardly directed power means that its ability to directly influence the combat is extremely limited. Ironwood may be able to hyper-focus every single one of his punches and bullets to get the most bang for his buck, but his attack output is still restricted to how hard he can punch and nothing more. By contrast, Moonslice is an ability that has direct offensive applications, affording Adam an additional attack vector to supplement his physical technique. Furthermore, Mettle’s properties could potentially exacerbate Ironwood’s overextensions, leaving him blind to threats outside of Adam’s direct attacks. Ironwood may have the means to power through injury, but Adam’s ability to absorb hits makes him the only one who can capitalize on injury. In a battle of pure Semblances, Adam’s more versatile powers afford a critical advantage.
Ironwood is not entirely helpless as an ethereal combatant, however, as he is the only one here who incorporates Dust into his fighting style. With the gravity bullets loaded into Due Process, Ironwood compensates for Mettle’s lack of offensive application by way of powerful shockwaves. Not only do these blasts count as a decent match for Moonslices’s energy waves, but Ironwood’s use of them to support his movements and recoveries affords him a degree of versatility that Adam lacks. The problem, however, arises when tactics are thrown into the mix. Adam may be something of a one-trick pony when it comes to firing off Moonslices, but deflecting gunfire to build up energy for those slices is his go-to tactic in just about every situation. Blake and Yang both proved that the best way to subvert this is to blindside Adam with shots he can’t see coming and can’t deflect, something Ironwood’s certainly capable of doing. Problem is…he doesn’t. While perfectly willing to sucker-shoot someone at point-blank range, Ironwood overwhelmingly favors long range gunfire to attack the target directly, which is the absolute last thing to do against this opponent. Trying to gun down Adam Taurus at range, even with magic bullets, is like trying to put out a fire with gasoline. Not only has Adam proven that he can keep up with Ironwood’s trigger speed, but his performance against the spider drone in the Black Trailer shows that he can easily deal with the magnitude of Ironwood’s rounds and throw them back. If a gigantic laser cannon couldn’t overwhelm Adam’s Semblance, comparatively dinky Dust bullets ain’t gonna do the job either. The only piece of Ironwood’s arsenal that even comes close to the spider drone is the energy cannon he utilized at the end of Volume 8, which isn’t applicable here because the cannon is not part of Ironwood’s standard equipment; he only breaks it out for special occasions.
At the end of the day, James Ironwood’s special abilities either gain him nothing or they seal his fate, especially when contrasted with the far more flexible powers Adam Taurus has at his disposal. Absorbing hits and throwing them back with a sword may seem like a very basic power, but not only has Adam made incredibly calculated uses of it, it is also perfectly optimized to use Ironwood’s own energies against him. Ironwood’s typical use of Mettle will merely enable him to keep charging after Adam without a thought to what his opponent might attempt, playing into the Faunus’s guerrilla tactics. Meanwhile, Adam will be able to capably nail the general with his own bursts of destructive power fluidly chained into his swordplay. And between Ironwood’s overwhelming offensive focus, emphasis on gunfire at range, and the extra oomph of his Dust rounds, he's going to be giving Adam quite a lot to work with. While Moonslice will not be enough to instantly one-shot Ironwood, it will still be more than enough for Adam to wear Ironwood down. Furthermore, for all his instability, Adam is able to maintain a more complete situational awareness without sacrificing his focus and aggression, only failing to account for the unexpected when he is being actively distracted. What Blake achieved with clever feints and flanking maneuvers, Team JNR achieved with an opponent with tactical tunnel vision. Ironwood has certainly mastered his Semblance and his use of Dust, but he is overspecialized and relatively one-note. Adam makes far more intelligent use of a Semblance that is more tactically viable and, dare I say, more powerful, and does so in a way that will make him the general’s worst nightmare.
Adam Taurus gets the edge for Special Abilities and Powers.
VERDICT
The name of the game here is Equal and Opposite. When looking at these two on paper, Adam Taurus and James Ironwood appear to have nothing in common, and in fact appear to be exact opposites to each other. One is a red and black garbed Faunus hailing from the dregs of society, leader of a smaller guerrilla force, and an openly malevolent, violent, and selfish young man who expressed his cruelty through both a terrorist campaign and a frighteningly abusive relationship. The other is a blue and white clad human from the most prosperous Kingdom on the map, commander of a large, organized army, and an outwardly charming, friendly, and honorable man who is genuinely dedicated to serving and protecting the world. However, when one observes the fine print and pushes aside the cosmetic details, the two are tragically far more similar that either would dare concede to. Both were powerful leading figures within two dangerously controversial factions in the world of Remnant. Both were initially driven by higher, nobler causes for the sake of their own people, only for those missions to become twisted and corrupted by their mutual preoccupation with power and control, itself heavily influenced by their severe physical and psychological trauma. But more than anything else, both were the architects of their own destruction, their egos and fear gradually driving away whatever allies they had as they slowly spiraled down a path of madness and murder. Both believed themselves to be the hero, but they merely lived long enough to see themselves become the villain. Just as there are a plethora of ironic similarities and stark reversals between these two, so too are their diametrically opposed approaches to combat perfectly suited for engaging the other. Physically, Adam Taurus has youth on his side and boasts superior agility and stamina, but James Ironwood’s cybernetic enhancements grant him vastly greater strength and durability. One is optimized for an endurance run, the other dominates a slugging match. With martial arts, Adam Taurus’s dynamic and counter-centric swordplay and James Ironwood’s domineering brawling and firepower are seamless foils to each other, perfectly optimized to hit the other where he is weakest. And in the realm of special abilities, Adam Taurus holds the means to attack using his opponent’s own power against him while James Ironwood possesses the ability to deliver each of his devastating blows with laser-guided focus, both powers elevating their respective fighting styles into something greater than the sum of its parts. This is nothing less than a contest of equals, and while both would be loath to concede to it, they are very much each other’s perfect adversary.
Given that both combatants predicate their success on controlling the engagement, the decisive factor in this matchup is going to be tactics and conduct, as he who can get the other to fight on his terms is he who controls. This is especially ironic given how both combatants are known for having made extremely ill-informed, borderline foolish, strategic decisions, a failing that went a long way towards driving them to ruin. However, neither Adam or Ironwood is truly incompetent, they simply lack forethought and tact, and it is worth noting that their blunders were often influenced by factors beyond their control. When examining their baseline conduct and approaches, they are again well-suited to engage each other, but there is a noticeable disparity that finally tips the scales one way. James Ironwood is the embodiment of the direct application of power, linear warfare. Everything he is bringing to the table, body, weapon and soul, is specifically designed to be the strongest and most formidable piece on the board, capable of overcoming any adversary while being virtually impossible to assail himself. He never deviated from this approach to combat simply because he never needed to 9 times out of 10, and the few times he did run into trouble, all he had to do was hit a little harder before the enemy finally broke. Meanwhile, for all his ambitions and delusions of grandeur, Adam Taurus is a guerrilla assassin first and foremost, non-linear warfare. He is operating from a position of lesser strength more often than not, so he works to avoid the head-on collision whenever possible. He rushes in to cut the enemy down before they have time to respond then quickly move on to the next target, and should they try to fight back, he will defend before immediately countering. Attacking Adam directly will either give him the opportunity to retaliate or provide fuel for his Semblance, and it is worth noting that most of his successes in battle were against opponents who actively resisted him. Adam had plans to subjugate the world, which would naturally involve eventually crossing paths with stronger armies, namely Atlas itself, so everything about him is built with the goal of undermining that strength. And because this is exactly the kind of approach to combat that James Ironwood specialized in, he is exactly the sort of opponent that Adam Taurus has optimized his skill set to combat. Adam’s ironic tactical and defensive superiority makes his narrow advantages in all other areas decisive edges. His greater speed and agility will keep him out of the general’s crosshairs, while his superior stamina will allow him to maintain his performance further into the fight. His fighting style is perfectly suited to take advantage of Ironwood’s overcommitments and land critical blows to further wear him down, while his Semblance will take his enemy’s own consistent attacks and throw them right back at him.
However, I need to stress that Ironwood is merely at a disadvantage, he is not overmatched. Adam’s advantages may be crucial, but Ironwood’s own are still guaranteed to give the Faunus problems. If Adam makes a single mistake or Ironwood gets the change to bring his full power to bear, he is going down. The only thing keeping Adam in this fight is his defensive technique, which he will only be able to execute so long as his head is in the game. Psychological health is the bane of both combatants’ existence, and their final defeats owed greatly to their deteriorating mental states. However, while Ironwood is outwardly more collected and stable than the disturbed Adam, his stubborn, borderline obstinate, determination was his greatest weakness, burning his candle from both ends by forcing his way through unnecessary risks, a factor that can lead him to either soldier his way to victory or completely burn him out. Adam may be the more overtly explosive and volatile man, but his instability is specifically rooted in childhood trauma and his relationship with Blake, and he only lost his cool when specific buttons were pushed. When Adam’s in the field, he is cold, focused, and all business. Even accounting for Adam’s clear hatred of Ironwood, Ironwood’s lack of intimate familiarity with Adam means than exploiting his instability would be unlikely even if he were one for psychological warfare. furthermore, Adam's conduct demonstrates that he is at least somewhat aware of his short fuse, operating in a way to prevent his composure from being tested. Both are extremely arrogant, yes, but Adam has displayed at least a small willingness to recognize his limitations and compensate for them, whereas Ironwood simply tries to be big enough to ignore them, damn the consequences.
In my view, if Adam Taurus and James Ironwood were pitted against each other in the context of the lore, they would no doubt approach each other the way they did Sienna Kahn and Ruby Rose respectively, the former playing it safe and assassinating him and the latter dispatching his forces to hunt him down. But if dropped in cold, their battle would most likely play out as a combination of their respective final duels with Yang Xiao Long and Winter Schnee. However, I also feel this would be a far more drawn out and vicious affair. To take a cue from YouTuber Antione Bandele, I will be breaking my projection into three stages; the Early Fight, the Mid Fight, and the Late Fight.
The Early Fight would begin as a simple standoff before exploding into action, both combatants charging in for the initial exchange. Despite their tendency for heavy offense, Adam and Ironwood typically open with a more controlled offensive, still aggressive but keeping their full might in reserve so they can assess and escalate as needed. Ironwood’s heavier guns and unarmed combat would enable him to initially gain ground through sheer force, but Adam has a better recovery strategy, absorbing hits with his Semblance and evading anything else before instantly countering. At the same time, Adam’s initial retaliation will be sure to knock Ironwood around a bit, but not in any way that would actually slow him down. As such, this battle will not be decided in the early fight, instead functioning as more of a mutual assessment.
The Mid Fight is where things will begin to escalate. Once Adam and Ironwood have each other’s measure, they would pull out all the stops, making more deliberate uses of their Semblances and powers while settling into an increasingly brutal rythem. Blades and bullets flying, surges of energy exploding around them, punches and kicks thrown, both intent on burying the other where he stands. It is here that Ironwood has his best chance of victory, as the increased intensity of his onslaught is certain to start putting Adam under serious pressure and potentially overpower him. However, I do not consider this outcome likely, as Ironwood’s approach is too straightforward to push Adam out of his comfort zone. It must be remembered that Yang defeated Adam by goading him into overextending, not by penetrating his defenses. Adam’s greater mobility will be more than enough for him to stay out of Ironwood’s crosshairs, while the openings provided by Ironwood’s attacks will be too great for him to ignore. This constant interruption will also undermine Ironwood’s own offensive, as he will be forced to respond to what Adam is doing rather than controlling the flow. While Watts’s slippery retreat gave Ironwood the opportunity to marshal his strength and power through, Adam’s in-your-face hack and slash will be chipping away at him at every opportunity. However, this will not be enough to seal the deal, as Ironwood’s greater durability and iron will will allow him to shrug off all but the most catastrophic hits and continue fighting.
As such, the final verdict hinges on what happens in the Late Fight. By this point, both combatants will be utterly exhausted, their Auras either already broken or one hit away, though Adam will be better off thanks to his more controlled approach to the battle while Ironwood would be leaning on the native power of his prosthetics and otherwise running on fumes. Both would be frustrated with not having ended their opponent yet, and would set aside grace to finish it once and for all. From here, I can see two potential outcomes. Option A; Ironwood’s fatigue will leave him exposed to a series of attacks that he can no longer effectively defend against and endure, and Adam will be able to cut him down. Option B; Ironwood goes all out and smashes into Adam with his full cyborg weight, willingly subjecting himself to any following injuries in order to bully through Adam's guard and beat him into a bloody pulp.
Of these two outcomes, I view a Faunus victory through attrition to be the more likely. Ironwood may be capable and willing to accept a pyrrhic victory, but he will only be able to do so if he is able to successfully get the drop on his target, and the only example we have of such was against a distracted Arthur Watts. Unlike Blake Belladonna, Adam has no reason to underestimate Ironwood outside of sheer stupidity, and would be on guard for any potential counterattack. In fact, Ironwood’s extreme threat level would no doubt play into Adam’s hands, motivating him to skip gloating and dispatch his target at the earliest opportunity. Compounding this outcome is the fact that Wilt and Blush are simply the superior option for such a takedown than Due Process; regardless of how powerful Ironwood's pistol whips are, battering someone into submission with blunt force trauma is not an efficient way of subduing your target quickly, especially when compared to a sword blade. Ironwood’s fierce resolve does him credit, but instead of pulling victory out of the fire, his final charge would merely prompt Adam to end it. In a scarlet flash, the High Leader would narrowly avoid the general’s mauling fist, and Wilt would carve into what remained of his flesh and bone. General James Ironwood’s body would fall to the ground dead, and the battered, bleeding, and exhausted Adam Taurus would use the last remnants of his strength to raise his bloody blade to the sky and roar in triumph.
I declare Adam Taurus the victor.
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Well guys, I hope you enjoyed this next installment of the RWBY Versus Series. I’ve done my best to explain my position as completely as I can, but I understand if you disagree with me. All I believe is that Adam is the more likely to end the fight on his terms. If you disagree, that’s perfectly fine. All I ask is that you keep your comments civil.
In the meantime, feel free to send me asks about future matchups, stay safe, and I’ll see you guys later!
*all images taken from the RWBY Wiki*
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A more concise version for people that still don't get it:
Your humanity is not tied to your flesh and blood. Your humanity is who you are, and your ability to experience the world around you and interact with other people, to perceive and understand them and be perceived and understood in turn. Humanity is not your skin and blood and muscle, it is you. The experiences and morals that enable you to love, trust, hurt, hate, and grieve.
Rooster Teeth aiming for "loss of humanity" with the triple amputee traumatized veteran is the problem. That on its own is ableist. But the fact that it only seems to apply to Ironwood when Yang and Penny's humanity is consistently validated, prosthetics and robot parts and all, is an extreme double standard.
The constant buzzword usage of "fascist" by the RWBY fandom and even Arryn Troche among others is an attempt to try and justify this, because then they can dodge the black mark. It's not his prosthetics that make him evil, it's his throwing away his humanity! Except those two things can't be separated and choosing to write that abundance of evil and apathy for human life onto the disabled character will always be a problem.
Ableism in media, at least the variation dealing with amputees, isn't that different from attractiveness idealism (you know, where characters who are evil tend to be designed to be unappealing to look at). Ask yourself why Adam has a massive disfiguration on his face, why Cinder is down both an eye and an arm, why Salem looks like black goop in human shape, and why Mercury is firmly villainous while Emerald gets the sweet redemption deal.
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