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I really do wish that the Owl House had managed to stick with its original goal of being subversive for so many reasons, but right now I'm thinking about the finale again and how Belos was framed as a downright evil dude. A lot has already been said about this decision, from how it hurts the development and arcs of multiple characters to how it neglects a lot of the subtext that made Belos such an interesting villain to begin with, but it also just generally falls into common tropes from a character design standpoint.
Belos is designed, inside and out, in such a way that ensures the viewer KNOWS he's the villain based on pre-existing stereotypes prevalent in media. He's not young or conventionally attractive; I've seen fans go so far as to call him ugly because of what is essentially a skin condition. Season 3 confirmed that he has OCD and psychosis. The curse is shown to give him some sort of chronic pain (+limited access to relief medication, which loses effectiveness [note that Eda will likely always have access to elixirs while the same can't be said for Belos and palismen]). He has a foreign accent. He was given a rough childhood (that the audience is expected to disapprove of) to "explain" how he got to where he is.
Something about it feels really rotten. He's a villain, no doubt about it, but a lot of his traits - many of which are heavily stigmatized - are not present in any other cast member (the closest I can think of is Hunter, who has facial scarring and undefined trauma symptoms potentially (?) including psychosis [the big difference here is that Belos is shown to have had episodes repeatedly while Hunter was shown to have one moment of non-possessed hallucinations for what looked like the first time]). It would have been nice to see a show shooting for subversion not use such commonly villainized attributes for the villain, or at least, for the villain and only the villain. It especially stinks considering how the showrunners pressed the message that he's evil through and through.
#the owl house#“but English accents aren't stigmatized in the US” okay but it still denoted him as an Other compared to the American main cast#“he wasn't confirmed to have OCD” he literally did what he did because of scrupulosity#toh critical#philip wittebane#emperor belos#yes I am once again sore over the stigmatization of OCD#I fully believe that there had been other plans for his character before the shortening#potentially including a different ending (this is PURE CONJECTURE)#but the way that season 3 treated him made it seem like the show just... stopped caring?#idk man when you build up a character a certain way it's nice to at least see some follow-through#belocd
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I've been stalking Javier Bardem's filmography, and I'm just dying at the fact that his typecast in the 90s seemed to be hunky male whore, I mean, well deserved but 😭
#i love two things:#a lot of european actors always seem to have some gay movie they starred in before they got big#<- i.e ewan mcgregor in velvet goldmine. daniel brühl in love in thoughts etc etc#2. so many european actors go from being typecast as sexy romantic leads to being cast as villains in English/American films#i mean think abt Mads Mikkelsen. iconic ass villain in american/british stuff like james bond and hannibal and harry p*tter#but in danish films i feel like hes often a quite sympathetic character?????#and then javier bardem. literally the same case#silva in Skyfall and I literally just watched him in his renowned villain rule in no country for old men last night#but then in these films i found 😭😭 sexy seducer!!!!!!!#this post is sponsored by the fact that i was trying to find gifs of him as stilgar in dune#and came across gifsets of: 1. just his crotch in tight underwear(😭) 2. very passionate kissing scene w another man#....my interest is peaked 👀#catie.rambling.txt
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Starring John Billingsley and Nick Westrate (who play Samuel and Robert Townsend respectively in the latter show), Manhunt is the Civil War drama for Turn fans.
It is the Civil War drama for me!
#manhunt apple tv#it also carries on the proud tradition of turn#in casting a very English man to play the American protagonist#tobias menzies#john billingsley#nick westrate#i hope the two one-time quakers got to see each other#in spite of having 0 scenes together
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another yayo just for fun :)
#yayo#i think i may make her an american student to match all the rest of the cast... :)#++ my explanation for why i write them little dialogues in english so far is theyre all immigrants or expats for whom french is a second or#third language so english ended up being their shared language#(klein speaks german english and french - xeres speaks tamazight arabic french and english - soona speaks arabic english and french)#in that order so both soona and klein spoke english before they did french and would have been more comfortable w it#at least when they first all met lol. so thats why they dont speak french among themselves!#i think kleins french is v good for professional reasons but he still prefers english#and possibly selected xeres as a roommate bc she was comfortable speaking english to him lol#maybe for yayo ill make it so that she has 1 french parent and was raised bilingual#so she moved to france for studying bc its cheaper#thatd make sense.. so theres my thoughts on my ocs today :)#ocs#xeres & co
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I’m completely 100% biased because my first introduction to Inuyasha was the English dub (I was 8ish; I couldn’t even read) but the English dub is top notch.
They absolutely crush it. Honestly, I feel like any pre-conceived notions of what the characters are supposed to sound like is going to make any dub an adjustment— I had to adjust to the SxF dub because I read the manga first and it’s not exactly how I read some of the characters’ voices. Anya’s voice especially took some getting used to.
(Also it’s objectively hilarious, at least to me, that Koga shares a voice with Grumpy Bear, and also that he looks like That. Also Sango is Barbie. I care about both of those things immensely.)
Whichever dub this is, that did that to Jakotsu, however, is my enemy. How could you do that to him??? 😭 What did he ever do to you, to deserve that?
#inuyasha amv#mimmy’s thought corner#also all the English VAs are Canadian!!#that’s very exciting to me because I don’t think any of my other hyperfixations have had any Canadian cast like that#I mean I haven’t scrutinized over it but I just kinda assume at this point that they’re all probably American
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The Last Border (1993, dir. Mika Kaurismäki)
#the last border#mika kaurismäki#jürgen prochnow#jolyon baker#fanny bastien#matti pellonpää#soli labbart#kari väänänen#juice leskinen#I felt like I was going insane with some of the cast#this movie was so stupid (funny) and predictable and dated#but had great fucking guitar riffs and visuals#the beginning and end were fun but the middle dragged on and on it was pure filler#the idea of a mad max spoof was there but they got lost in increasing runtime and appropriating saami culture and being macho#finnish/nordic movies made for american audiences are something else man#awkward english rly gives it the final touch
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Listening to my Haylor playlist and realizing that Taylor has a lot of nerve for that “your new girl is my clone/you search in every model’s bed” business when she dated a string of English boys after Harry HMMMM
#I googled her exes to confirm my thoughts#all good ol’ American boys until Harry#then a bunch of English guys until Travis#LET SHE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE TAYLOR#(this is all facetious don’t yell at me)
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one dumbass tweet about how white "and Black" actors are "incorrectly" cast as MENA characters and it unleashes race scientists, antiBlack Imazighen, and a guy trying to argue there's a trend where Alexander Siddig would not be cast as African today vus 20 years ago because of woke I guess
Alexander Siddig. Who has self described as Black and only has been cast as an explicitly African character a few times in his 30 year career.
#cipher talk#Give me a 10 page essay on Sudanese racial politics NEOW or shut the fuck up#'Semitic features' 'west African features' get out of my HOUSE#The reason Siddig doesn't get cast as African probably has more to do with the lack of African roles in English movies#Especially Northeast African#And the fact that Siddig is a bit picky about his roles because he doesn't want to be cast in Racist Bullshit#Than some shared guilt of Black actors for 'taking roles' from non-Black MENA actors#The problem is this tweet (probably from a whitie) has implied Black people can't be North African which has incited pogroms#In the past few years#And has acted like Black Americans have an equal guilt in taking roles from nonBlack MENA actors#Which overwhelmingly!!! It is white people that take those roles#White People. Are the guilty fucking party here#You can draw a distinction between Black MENA actors and Black actors not from the MENA sure but that's not happening here!
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hm yeah so Campaign 1 has fairly basic accent work like Vex and Vax are posh half elves they get posh english accents, Percy is posh so he gets a super posh english accent. Grog is not posh and he is stupid and he is a barbarian, he is uneducated, so he gets an uneducated, working class London-esque accent. This is very common in fantasy and I adore Travis's accent work, it's genuinely one of the best non posh accents by someone who isn't English, but if you start thinking about it 'stupid/idiotic' people or races getting real 'uneducated' accents and smart people and the ruling classes getting 'posh' english accents is something that does bother me and a problem to be noted across fantasy works, even if they're american and american is the neutral accent they still do this? And it's okay because it was just a home game put on screen and they pulled on popular tropes and their previous VA experience etc. It's fine, but it's also boring. I want the ruling class to have a different accent damn it.
But in Campaign 2 the accent choices are more varied out of just English speaking countries, but I want to talk about Travis's accent choices are rad. He's doing a Texan accent but you realise it's not his natural accent and his natural accent is an English one (more neutral and light than the posh C1 accents). So like this Texan accent is something Fjord uses because he saw someone use it who commanded respect. So like instead of this weird constant fantasy trope of posh accents commanding respect is flipped as it's a Texan one. It's not completely as it's not like a cultural or class thing (from what I gather, unless FCG has a southern accent because that's the most respectful accent so of course a robot would be designed to have that accent) that causes Fjord to use the Texan accent it's because of one guy he admires BUT after so many damn posh accents and English accents in fantasy it's just more interesting to see this inversion and this character not picking an RP accent to be taken more seriously. And I don't think Travis was trying to do anything-- I imagine he just picked two accents that contrast each other clearly imo. But after stupid grog with his stupid accent
#critical role#travis Willingham#mighty nein#vox machina#fjord stone#anyway travis's voice work in the campaigns is my fave#anyway with the culture/class thing my experiences are highly different as an english person are different to the american cast#so what i would find interesting to explore probs isn't a priority
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Roger Delgado practices diplomacy as the unnamed ambassador of an equally unspecified Central American Republic, in Man in a Suitcase: Burden of Proof (1.15, ITC, 1968)
#fave spotting#roger delgado#man in a suitcase#classic doctor who#the master#delgado!master#burden of proof#itc#1968#classic tv#a relatively small role for Roger; his character exists really only to show an official from the fictional South American country the#episode deals with who is not corrupt (unlike Wolfe Morris and his associates) or a foreign national (John Gregson's English ex pat who's#loyalties are inscrutable). he expresses some outrage at Larry Taylor being violent‚ he offers Nicola Pagett some fatherly advice#and then he exits the episode never to be seen again. it's a small role but a nice change of pace for Rog‚ as he gets to play kindly#diplomat as opposed to villain (or villainous diplomat). the episode itself is.. complex... in its attitudes. perhaps the episode of MiaS#which has aged the least well. it's hard to say‚ but the colonial attitudes are pretty obvious and there's some deeper problematic stuff#going on. most disturbingly‚ said fictional S American country apparently has some kind of ethnic caste system in place#(something obliquely referenced in dialogue is Wolfe belonging to a lower social group bc of his ethnic heritage) but it's the two most#villainous characters who belong to this (? again potentially fictional?) racial group‚ and who are subject to (?? fictional??) racial#slurs‚ something which is never really commented on or resolved by the supposed 'good' characters (it's worth noting none of this involves#McGill‚ who isn't in any of those scenes). it's a troubling bit of.. meta racism??? and definitely the inference is related to skin tone#(both Morris and Larry Taylor being notably darker than Pagett‚ who it is suggested belongs to the higher social class)#it's an uncomfortable aspect of a script which takes a genuinely good plot and then wrings it through some weird‚ pretty offensive places#ok i did a bit more digging and the country may be fictional but the slur is apparently real and has been historically used against latin#and filipino ppl so yikes i guess this episode is just generally fucked up. huh. that's a damn shame. stupid 60s tv always ruining stuff#with utterly pointless bigotry. sigh. consider this a tw i guess#apologies for prev tags‚ South American should read Central American; not certain whether the country is actually named in dialogue briefly#but Pixley provides no details alas
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i know im not alone on this but i also know this statement is like waving a stick at a hornets nest. my overall memories and nostalgia related to hetalia are generally not bad and i think it may have saved a depression-riddled middle school aged me from being lured towards way darker and more mentally damaging content or online groups
#im dead serious like before that i was getting into creepypasta which. look im not one to say horror would make my little developing brain#disintegrate or anything BUT as an online community and a subculture of sorts i think it was far more of a slippery slope into#toxicity and extremism and most of all romanticizing/normalizing things like self harm and unhealthy eating habits and so on#despite what a lot of people say on this site it’s really not an evil and fascism-endorsing show or anything#it just has occasional jokes or concepts that are a bit distasteful– though from what I can tell alot of the ones people point out are#improvised bullshit lines made up by english dub cast members#anyway I won’t get into that whole rant but point is i am so so serious it could’ve been so much worse#the worst thing that came of being into hetalia as a kid was being more prone to finding stereotype humor funny#which im still like. I feel like was much more distasteful in 2012-13 youtube content. like WAY more distasteful#and rampant in general. so even in a show that’s built on stereotypes like hetalia it’s TAMER than the stereotype humor of the time in#a ton of mainstream media. big youtubers were still doing casual blackface back then man. 99% of hetalia’s stereotype humor is like.#canadians are quiet and nice. japanese politeness is to an extreme. germans are efficient. americans are loud and like burger#sorry I said I wasn’t gonna go into this rant so. I digress. I was just thinking about this cause I realized seeing hetalia fanart#generally makes me feel a good- or at least not bad- kind of nostalgia. which seems adverse to the show’s reputation especially on this sit#food for thought or whatever#kibumblabs#oh yeah I know why I started thinking about this- a drawing of seychelles came up on my dash and i can’t help but feel warm seeing her pop#up because she was the first real full cosplay I ever did for a big con. (with help) i hand-made the dress and everything. :*)
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One thing i love about the Arknights Dub is that the Accents which is refreshing to hear then the average American Voice
And some of the Character Voices sound more fitting and unique with the Accent in the English Dub, then in CN or JP it make their Character feel more alive and real with our Real World out of USA with how majority of Arknights Characters are not American or Japanese
#Dama Speaks#It very refreshing to hear Non America Characters with Accents where they from then the American Voice#Even some of the American Arknight Characters in the Dub have different Accents#I love how they casted a English Speaking German VA that can speak German with a German Arknight Character and other Non American VA'S#For those Characters#And even with the American Va's do a good job doing Accents that you can't hear the American
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No hold on a second imagine if they do end up casting one of the supernatural guys. How am I supposed to feel about it
#oh my god is an english guy gonna be filippo#for the cultural thing#is he going to be called john smith#imagine if misha collins were the commander#is it gonna be called the sea outside#the ocean outside#is there an ocean in texas#IMAGINE IF THEY HAD CHOSEN ANOTHER STATE WITHOUT THE SEA IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HILARIOUS TO ME#is there gonna be references to the og show#I'm going insane thinking about this#imagine the american actors coming here to talk with the cast#imagine Nicolas what does he think about it#is there gonna be more gay sex#it is the hbo after all#who am i kidding j*red would be the guard#maybe the director#a male director?#ew#the point is I know there's only gonna be pocs in that jail because GUESS WHAT. THE FORMAT CHANGES WHEN YOU MOVE IT TO ANOTHER PLACE#oh my god#mare fuotag
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what your thougets on non italian actors playing italians because of favino's comments in venice press
An actors job is to play someone other than themselves so it'd be very limiting for them to only be allowed to play characters who are similar to themselves.
#ask#anonymous#idk its like saying americans shouldn't play english characters#or vice versa etc#adam was chosen by the director because he was the best person for the job#and ferrari is an american made film#so it makes sense they'd cast a big name american actor in the lead role to attract more people to go see it
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achievement: did NOT impulse buy the digimon adventure subbed bluray for $60 this morning 👍🏻
#i learned LAST NIGHT that they’re rereleasing the american digimon movie on bluray#BUT ALSO they REASSEMBLED all of the original english cast that they could to REDUB the first 3 digimon movies??#the ones that were frankensteined into digimon USA but never dubbed on their own?#THEY EVEN REMOVED THE ANGELA ANACONDA SHORT FROM THE USA MOVIE
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Ok here’s my criticism of the english: I think it needed to be either A Romance OR needed to have the romance entirely unspoken
#like a story that indulges much more in the romance and writes it more like a romance#i think they wanted to do a ‘connection transcends romance’ thing but instead it just feels like they’re copping out of Writing A Romance#vs if they had left the romance of it all unspoken (like mad max for example) then that would also have hit#like either write a romance and really commit or write a relationship that remains ambiguous#there were some stunning swoonworthy romantic moments! but the whole is not greater than the sum of the parts. to me#instead it reads less like they were trying to make an unrealized romance and more like the writers just couldn’t decide#I know this is a criticism that’s entirely arbitrary and just about my personal preferences but that’s what a blog is for#idk if I’ve even made sense here. that said overall pretty good show!#great to see a native american lead great to see the number of native americans in the cast and the number of unique characters they played#and the variety of perspectives they all had#and the cinematography was gorgeous#plot criticisms will have to wait until I’m feeling less lazy. but. I have plot criticisms for sure#very good watch tho#the english
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