#american/English casting

[pinksilvace]

I really do wish that the Owl House had managed to stick with its original goal of being subversive for so many reasons, but right now I'm thinking about the finale again and how Belos was framed as a downright evil dude. A lot has already been said about this decision, from how it hurts the development and arcs of multiple characters to how it neglects a lot of the subtext that made Belos such an interesting villain to begin with, but it also just generally falls into common tropes from a character design standpoint.

Belos is designed, inside and out, in such a way that ensures the viewer KNOWS he's the villain based on pre-existing stereotypes prevalent in media. He's not young or conventionally attractive; I've seen fans go so far as to call him ugly because of what is essentially a skin condition. Season 3 confirmed that he has OCD and psychosis. The curse is shown to give him some sort of chronic pain (+limited access to relief medication, which loses effectiveness [note that Eda will likely always have access to elixirs while the same can't be said for Belos and palismen]). He has a foreign accent. He was given a rough childhood (that the audience is expected to disapprove of) to "explain" how he got to where he is.

Something about it feels really rotten. He's a villain, no doubt about it, but a lot of his traits - many of which are heavily stigmatized - are not present in any other cast member (the closest I can think of is Hunter, who has facial scarring and undefined trauma symptoms potentially (?) including psychosis [the big difference here is that Belos is shown to have had episodes repeatedly while Hunter was shown to have one moment of non-possessed hallucinations for what looked like the first time]). It would have been nice to see a show shooting for subversion not use such commonly villainized attributes for the villain, or at least, for the villain and only the villain. It especially stinks considering how the showrunners pressed the message that he's evil through and through.

[skitskatdacat63]

I've been stalking Javier Bardem's filmography, and I'm just dying at the fact that his typecast in the 90s seemed to be hunky male whore, I mean, well deserved but 😭

[lyledebeast]

Starring John Billingsley and Nick Westrate (who play Samuel and Robert Townsend respectively in the latter show), Manhunt is the Civil War drama for Turn fans.

It is the Civil War drama for me!

[5eyed]

another yayo just for fun :)

[bijoumikhawal]

one dumbass tweet about how white "and Black" actors are "incorrectly" cast as MENA characters and it unleashes race scientists, antiBlack Imazighen, and a guy trying to argue there's a trend where Alexander Siddig would not be cast as African today vus 20 years ago because of woke I guess

Alexander Siddig. Who has self described as Black and only has been cast as an explicitly African character a few times in his 30 year career.

[jakotsuto]

I’m completely 100% biased because my first introduction to Inuyasha was the English dub (I was 8ish; I couldn’t even read) but the English dub is top notch.

They absolutely crush it. Honestly, I feel like any pre-conceived notions of what the characters are supposed to sound like is going to make any dub an adjustment— I had to adjust to the SxF dub because I read the manga first and it’s not exactly how I read some of the characters’ voices. Anya’s voice especially took some getting used to.

(Also it’s objectively hilarious, at least to me, that Koga shares a voice with Grumpy Bear, and also that he looks like That. Also Sango is Barbie. I care about both of those things immensely.)

Whichever dub this is, that did that to Jakotsu, however, is my enemy. How could you do that to him??? 😭 What did he ever do to you, to deserve that?

[suddenmovements]

The Last Border (1993, dir. Mika Kaurismäki)

[papiermachecat]

Listening to my Haylor playlist and realizing that Taylor has a lot of nerve for that “your new girl is my clone/you search in every model’s bed” business when she dated a string of English boys after Harry HMMMM

[hayleysayshay]

hm yeah so Campaign 1 has fairly basic accent work like Vex and Vax are posh half elves they get posh english accents, Percy is posh so he gets a super posh english accent. Grog is not posh and he is stupid and he is a barbarian, he is uneducated, so he gets an uneducated, working class London-esque accent. This is very common in fantasy and I adore Travis's accent work, it's genuinely one of the best non posh accents by someone who isn't English, but if you start thinking about it 'stupid/idiotic' people or races getting real 'uneducated' accents and smart people and the ruling classes getting 'posh' english accents is something that does bother me and a problem to be noted across fantasy works, even if they're american and american is the neutral accent they still do this? And it's okay because it was just a home game put on screen and they pulled on popular tropes and their previous VA experience etc. It's fine, but it's also boring. I want the ruling class to have a different accent damn it.

But in Campaign 2 the accent choices are more varied out of just English speaking countries, but I want to talk about Travis's accent choices are rad. He's doing a Texan accent but you realise it's not his natural accent and his natural accent is an English one (more neutral and light than the posh C1 accents). So like this Texan accent is something Fjord uses because he saw someone use it who commanded respect. So like instead of this weird constant fantasy trope of posh accents commanding respect is flipped as it's a Texan one. It's not completely as it's not like a cultural or class thing (from what I gather, unless FCG has a southern accent because that's the most respectful accent so of course a robot would be designed to have that accent) that causes Fjord to use the Texan accent it's because of one guy he admires BUT after so many damn posh accents and English accents in fantasy it's just more interesting to see this inversion and this character not picking an RP accent to be taken more seriously. And I don't think Travis was trying to do anything-- I imagine he just picked two accents that contrast each other clearly imo. But after stupid grog with his stupid accent

[seilon]

i know im not alone on this but i also know this statement is like waving a stick at a hornets nest. my overall memories and nostalgia related to hetalia are generally not bad and i think it may have saved a depression-riddled middle school aged me from being lured towards way darker and more mentally damaging content or online groups

[omarfor-orchestra]

No hold on a second imagine if they do end up casting one of the supernatural guys. How am I supposed to feel about it

[supremeprince-bensolo]

what your thougets on non italian actors playing italians because of favino's comments in venice press

An actors job is to play someone other than themselves so it'd be very limiting for them to only be allowed to play characters who are similar to themselves.

[adrianicsea]

achievement: did NOT impulse buy the digimon adventure subbed bluray for $60 this morning 👍🏻

[micamicster]

Ok here’s my criticism of the english: I think it needed to be either A Romance OR needed to have the romance entirely unspoken

[todayisafridaynight]

Thank you for doing dubbed, because I find Ichi’s English voice so cute 🥰

kaiji tang is The Goat i love his performance SO much and it's so perfect

[whetstonefires]

The best thing about fusing them imo is John Constantine is a character from American superhero comics whose distinctive character 'voice' is heavily defined by the cadence and vocabulary of a working class Liverpudlian circa 1985, accuracy highly variable.

While Jack Harkness is a character from British TV, one of whose distinctive features is a vaguely mid-20th-century American accent.

...Jack Harkness is not American, mind you. He is from the pansexual space future. He was originally introduced on Doctor Who while impersonating a WWII-era american military captain. It's sort of unclear if he picked that role because of the convenient accent match, or if he's just kept doing that voice this whole time for personal reasons.

His actor isn't even American; he just spent a lot of his childhood here and watched loads of old movies.

You seem like you would know the answer to this question, are Jack Harkness and John Constantine the Same Guy? I know they're from different things and only have the vaguest dashboard osmosis idea about either of them but the instinct is so strong. What is causing this? Help

you've osmosed them into a single slutty bisexual disaster man that doesn't mind his own business and refuses to die