#although tbh i think xander is even worse
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andthesunwillalwaysshine · 8 months ago
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Team vengeance demon Anya Team human Anya Team both versions of her I want her to raise hell
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cabeswaterdrowned · 3 years ago
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btvs + tvd for the ship meme!
Btvs
otp: Spuffy & Fuffy. & Coffy. in that order tbh but I do adore them all favourite canon pairing: Spuffy. other than them I’m only really into Sprusilla and primarily s5 Willara worst pairing ever: I mean it’s Buffy/Giles obviously people who ship that are freaks. but otherwise anything involving Xander (usually I can like ships even if I dislike a character in them if there’s merit to a dynamic imo but here I can not somehow I just … hate him so much lol). Any canon ship that isn’t the three I just mentioned mostly isn’t for me guilty pleasure pairing: I don’t really have one, also I never quite know what this is supposed to mean and most of my ships for this verse aren’t like, healthy. but Willow x Amy would be like another level of toxic even by Buffyverse standards and I do find the idea kind of fun, although I never sought  content for it. and the rare time I’ve seen a Buffy x Drusilla post I’ve been like ! a pairing you want to see more: Buffy x Tara & Buffy x Kendra & Faith x Willow & Willow x Anya all those ships are great, especially Faith x Willow which I’m a vocal advocate for. Oh and Cordelia x Anya would’ve been rad that pairing everyone likes but you’re like “lol no”: Bangel but I used to notp it and now I do respect it a lot more for it’s place in Buffy’s narrative and see some merit in it, but it’s still really not my cup of tea romantically. I don’t hate hate it anymore but still. favorite non-romantic pair: Buffy & Dawn + Tara & Dawn the absolute best! Buffy & Giles. also Buffy and Willow but them I do occasionally like romantically (mostly I like the thought of them having crushes on each other in s3 and then growing out of them, but post Alyson Hannigan talking about them dating in S7 I do sometimes find the idea a little fun too). But like primarily I love their friendship. I also just sort of love Tara’s dynamics with all the Scoobies. Spike and Dawn even if reading some things about James and Michelle has made me feel worse about this but I did love their written dynamic. they don’t get too many scenes one on one but I love Spike and Willow when they’re together, also as foils.
TVD otp: Bamon & Beklena. favourite canon pairing: Steroline & Stebekah. worst pairing ever: Caroline x Alaric seems really obvious as the worst one. DE & SE I think I’ve had a stronger negative reaction to DE in the past because it’s a) a ship that I expected to like when I first watched but didn’t which is never fun and b) because it took up so much narrative space in the later seasons, whereas SE mostly just bored me. now I have a more eyeroll-y reaction to both with distance that isn’t full on hatred per se. I could not stand Matt x Caroline. I know in the grand scheme of TVDu ships it’s not like that insidious but it grated on me a lot guilty pleasure pairing: I guess Katholine would be this I really loved them tbh, also Klaroline and Steferine. and Datherine I don’t think about them as much but I enjoy them together. a pairing you want to see more: Beklena & Bonora & Katholine. also Kennett had a lot of potential that pairing everyone likes but you’re like “lol no”: Delena & Stelena favorite non-romantic pair: Elena and Katherine !!! my favorite dynamic on the show. I tried to think of a more traditionally positive friend/family dynamic that would qualify but honestly idk. I like Barolena dynamics sometimes but how I feel about each one sort of … varies depending on the day as does if I ship any of them romantically. the closest I can think of otherwise is Elena and Jenna rip
I obviously did not include Ats/TO ships like Cangel and Klayley in this
thank you so much! <3
(send me a fandom and I’ll answer questions for ships)
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strafethesesinners · 4 years ago
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1 6 14 15 19 for john & coop??
Thank you so much!! Sorry I took so long to get to these!  (ship headcanons meme)
Real quick as a preface of these two, I’m sure most of y’all already know but just in case, I pretty much have two canons for them at this point. One where they’re enemies like in the game until John gets kicked out of the project which is what my one fic is about (which no, I haven’t abandoned I just haven’t updated since Sept. ajfkajlfdlakfjlsaj). The other one is just them hooking up before the reaping and stuff so like, maybe starting about four months or so beforehand and up until then.......(and then what? I don’t know yet we’ll see).
1. Who makes the first move and how?
In my fic verse I have a scene planned out after they get stranded out in the woods while they’re trying to get to Jacob’s Gate. They end up having a little bit to drink. (John gets way drunker than Cooper) they start talking about the uh tension that’s been going on between them and John ends up kissing Cooper. I won’t give the rest away.  In the pre-verse (not really sure what to call these aus tbh) this isn’t strictly canon yet but I have a little scene where Cooper pulls John over for speeding, they end up just flirting a whole lot, then Cooper gives John his number instead of a ticket (great police work there Coop). 
6. Who would they ask if they ever had a threesome?
So there are a vast number of y’all’s OCs that they would definitely ask but if we’re only doing canon characters, this would be Cooper’s list: Mary May, Adelaide (Xander maybe), Sharky, Pastor Jerome, Grace, Hudson, Pratt (Pratt and Cooper don’t get along but he’s still a maybe), Nick & Kim but only together (foursome), Bo Adams, Skylar Kohrs, Eli. (Cooper: “I know I’m forgetting some people but that’s the general list”) The only problem is all those people would say absolutely not to John or John would say no to them (John might be ok with Mary May but she certainly wouldn’t be ok with him). All except Adelaide probably, so she might be their only choice as far as canon characters go. I mean, they could do worse. 
14. When one has a cold, what does the other do?
John’s just the “so no head?” vine.  Ok say they’re a little bit farther along in the relationship and have feelings for each other. John still probably wouldn’t really do much. He might get Cooper some cold medicine or something and like, awkwardly ask him how he’s doing every now and then.  Cooper wouldn’t freak out or anything if John was sick, but he would feel bad for him and probably make him some soup or something. He might hang out at John’s house the whole time, because I think that once John realized that Cooper cared about how felt he would probably act much sicker than he really is. Trying to get Cooper to bring him food and water and stuff in bed. Wanting Cooper to stay there and cuddle him and watch movies with him etc. You can’t really blame him, he’s most likely never had anyone pay that much attention to his comfort and health before. 
15. When they watch a film, what do they choose and why? Who gets the final vote?
I don’t think John would actually even know what kind of movies he likes to be honest, so he would probably let Cooper pick them out. Cooper likes action movies and westerns the most, but he also likes scifi and fantasy. I feel like John would like some of them and others he’d probably consider extremely stupid and would probably say so and ruin the experience for Cooper. Like I think once he did start liking to watch movies he’d be the type to pick apart all the plot holes and like innaccuries and shit.  Cooper decides not to watch any more horror movies with John after they watch a SAW movie and John makes a lot of comments like “now that’s interesting” “hmm not a bad idea, but so impersonal” “I wouldn’t do it that way I’d (describes what he would do instead).”
19. Where do they go on their first date? 
So this would only apply to the pre-verse. Cooper would probably ask John for a drink at the Spread Eagle but John is probably not gonna go for that (although that might be a fun scene to write so...we’ll see) and if so then John will probably just have Cooper come over to his house for dinner. Which I guess would be something John picked up or Cooper would offer to bring stuff. 
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sophygurl · 8 years ago
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I totally should have added a note to specify which fandoms for these lol. I’ll try to narrow it down to just fandoms I tend to more actively participate in?
9. Most disliked character(s)? Why? 
Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Angel. I just never got his character, or his ships with anyone really (with the exception of Spike but I just ship Spike with everyone so). I also have my issues with Xander, though I wouldn’t say I out and out dislike him. 
General Hospital: Elizabeth Webber. I can’t even fully explain it. Her actions in and of themselves aren’t that much better or worse than any other soap character. I think it’s her syrupy self-righteous justifications of her behavior that just make me cringe and dislike her so much. 
Pretty Little Liars: Ezra and Toby - I hope their respective ships with the liars do NOT end up being endgame. They’ve both been so creepy and abusive in totally different ways but I’d be satisfied to find out either one or both of them were A in the end. 
Veronica Mars: Duncan and Piz - I’ve written volumes on why I dislike these guys in the past, so I don’t feel the need to expound on it too much now lol. 
The Walking Dead: Negan. I fucking hate Negan. I love JDM and his portrayal of this villain is incredible but it’s so incredible that I just loathe him. He’s a completely fascistic totalitarian abusive rapist torturing bastard and all he does is hurt people for his own gain. And he enjoys doing it. So yea. Hate.
10. Most disliked arc? Why?
Orphan Black: I kinda found the male clone arc unnecessary, and also didn’t think the actor for that could hold a candle to Tatiana.  
Veronica Mars: Most of season three?? Although much of that was due to execution and not the specifics of the arcs chosen. I’m still hoping for more on The Castle and the mob connections, tbh. 
19. What is the one thing you hate most about your fandom?
The 100: Ship wars is a big one. But also the inability of some segments of the fandom to accept criticism of any kind. Like yea, sorry, the show can problematic af and we get to talk about that. [both of these things go for other fandoms as well]
Dark Matter: Where is everyone? Why does this show get so much less love than Killjoys? [I have similar complaints of other smaller-fandom or where’s-the-fandom shows]
The Walking Dead: Fucking Negan fans (not the people who enjoy him as a villain but the ones who feel the need to justify his actions and pretend he’s a nice guy because they think he’s sexy). Also haters of Michonne/Richonne. 
23. Unpopular character you love?
Big Brother: Frankie Grande is sort of universally hated by the BB fandom but I kinda love the guy and cannot help myself?
General Hospital: Franco, but that’s mostly due to Roger Howarth playing him so believably and empathetically. 
Lost: Kate and Jack. 
IDK, otherwise most of the characters I love are either 1) fairly beloved by the fandom, or 2) equally loved/hated at least, or 3) not very popularly loved but also not hated/disliked much. 
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MTVS Epic Rewatch #160
BTVS 6x10 Wrecked
Stray Thoughts
1) To me, “Wrecked” is “Dead Man’s Party”/”Empty Places” levels of uncomfortable to watch. It’s worse than a train wreck because you’re not morbidly compelled to watch in spite of yourself. I had to will myself to watch this, that’s how dreadful it was for me. Even more so because I find it hard to buy the parallels the writers were so eager to draw between Willow’s and Buffy’s predicament. Yes, Buffy and Willow are far removed from the characters we grew to love in the early seasons. Willow is hooked on magic, smug and reckless. Buffy is depressed, detached and apathetic. The difference is, Willow has found herself on a path she chose for herself (the writers suddenly deciding to equate magic with drugs does not negate the fact that Willow came to magic of her own volition and that the show had not treated magic as a drug prior to this season...), while Buffy is trying to deal with the wreckage of a situation that was thrust upon her without her consent (by none other than Willow...) Moreover, Willow’s abuse of magic and recklessness have tangible repercussions on those around her. It’s not even that her friends might suffer collateral damage, she had been actively using magic to manipulate and abuse them. Buffy’s “drug”, on the other hand, is Spike. While her relationship with him was definitely unhealthy, she wasn’t hurting anyone other than probably herself and Spike (although that’s not the reason why by the end of the episode she chose to stay away from him - sparing his feelings wasn’t her priority, she was trying to protect her friends ¿?) I think there’s a big difference between “My friends won’t like/will disapprove of what I’m doing with my life [the person I’m banging]” and “I am emotionally and physically hurting my friends with what I’m doing with my life [abusing magic]”
So, while I can understand why Buffy is reluctant to continue her affair with Spike (and tbh even as a Spuffy shipper I wish she would’ve drawn the line here), her sleeping with Spike is hardly equivalent to Willow’s abuse of magic in terms of the consequences for those around them. 
Okay, long introduction over. I just had to get that off my chest before it had been nagging at me since I finished the episode. 
2) 
BUFFY: When... When did the building fall down? SPIKE: I don't know. Must have been sometime between the first time and the, uh...
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3) 
SPIKE: I just don't see why you have to run off so quick. Thought we could...
BUFFY: Not gonna happen. Last night was the end of this freak show.
SPIKE: Don't say that.
BUFFY: What did you think was gonna happen? What, we're gonna read the newspaper together, play footsie under the rubble?
Buffy wasn’t really tactful, but she was making a good point. 
4) Of course, even if she didn’t picture babies and a house in the suburbs with Spike, she does enjoy fooling around with him. And I get it, girl. It doesn’t last too long, though, because Spike being Spike he had to be all gross and...
SPIKE: I knew. I knew the only thing better than killing a slayer would be f... BUFFY: What?!
That sets her off, and she quickly dismisses his theory that she’s a vampire groupie by setting Angel apart from him and calling Spike “convenient”. 
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And while that’s true, I don’t think it was only about “convenience”. If she only needed to have sex with someone, she could’ve tried and find someone else. Someone she wasn’t supposedly disgusted by. Or a dildo, which is far less problematic and occasionally far more efficient, lbr. And while Spike was convenient in the sense that A) he was there, and B) he was following her around like a puppy and declaring his love at every turn, Buffy wouldn’t have slept with him if she hadn’t been attracted/turned-on by him, you know?
5) OMG, Tara reverts to stuttering when Willow shows up with Amy, that’s how much it hurt her to think that Willow was already dating someone else. 
And then Willow tries to set her straight by explaining it was Amy the Rat but instead of making things better, she makes everything a million times worse because that’s how Tara knows she hasn’t quit doing magic. And if there was something more hurtful than Willow dating someone, it was Willow doing magic in spite of the fact that was the reason Tara had left her. I think Tara definitely feels like Willow cared more about magic than she did about her, you know?
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6) 
DAWN: You should rest. You're beat from monster-wrestling all night.
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7) I know I’ve called Willow lazy before, but in all fairness, I would totally use magic to try and shut the curtains while I’m curled up in bed. Except Willow was all drained out of magic because of the previous night. See? That’s what happens when you go on a magic-binge: there’s none left for the important stuff like shutting the curtains without leaving the warm of your bed.
8) I believe this theory 100%
XANDER: Anya has a theory. She thinks that Martha Stewart froze that guy. ANYA: Don't be ridiculous. Martha Stewart isn't a demon. She's a witch. XANDER: Please, she... Really? ANYA: Of course. Nobody could do that much decoupage without calling on the powers of darkness.
9) See 1) above. Buffy tries to defend Willow because she’s seeing herself reflected in Xander’s and Anya’s comments, but the difference is, Willow’s actions were hurting others (as well as herself.)
BUFFY: She's just... helping Amy through a transition. XANDER: And making herself a playmate to do magic with. Someone who won't monitor her like Tara. BUFFY: No, Willow's a grown-up. You know, maybe she doesn't need to be monitored. You know, she's going through something, but we're not her. I mean ... m-maybe she has reasons for acting this way. And, so what if she crossed a line? You know, we all do stuff. Stupid stuff. But, then we learn. And, and we learn, and, and we don't do it again. Okay, so, you know, who are we to get all judgey?
XANDER: Not judgey, Buff. Just, observey. ANYA: Yeah, all we're saying is, she's acting different. You know, she's not herself.
10) Considering Amy had been a rat for over three years, that means she had been visiting Rack while she was a teenager... which is super creepy for all sorts of reasons but especially the one below...
11) If you read the whole Rack scenes in terms of the magic=drugs metaphor, Amy and Willow were basically prostituting themselves for drugs/magic...
RACK: Amy said. Amy said I could help you. But did Amy say how you could help me?
WILLOW: No, I-I have some money, a-a bit-
RACK: Not money.
WILLOW: Well, I could help you with your computer, I'm really handy-
RACK: Just relax, I'm not gonna hurt you. You gotta give a little to get a little, right?
AMY: It's okay. It's over fast.
RACK: That's right. I'm just gonna take a little tour.
Yikes, show. Y I K E S.
12) This scene is Trainspotting levels of creepy/scary...
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13) This is so sad...
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14) I love the running joke about how slaying makes you hungry... and horny...
DAWN: I'll leave a note for Buffy on the refrigerator. That's the first place she goes after patrolling. She's such a pig after she kills things.
15) This show is usually so good when it comes to writing metaphors into the narrative. I mean, the metaphors are not exactly subtle (like Angel losing his soul and ditching Buffy after having sex with her...) but they aren’t heavy-handed either. Except for the magic=drugs metaphor. I usually pride myself in saying that BTVS is a show that doesn’t underestimate its viewers’ intelligence, but let’s be real, the writers must’ve thought we were a bunch of dimwits if they thought they had to go this far to hammer the metaphor into us. I mean...
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16) Oh, Dawnie! There’s nothing wrong with a meat party in your mouth, as long as you are of age and consent to it ;)
WILLOW: So, the burger was good? You liked it? DAWN: Are you kidding? It was like a meat party in my mouth. Okay, now I'm just a kid, and even *I* know that came out wrong.
17) Willow starts asking Dawn questions about Tara, like if she was sad or if she had mentioned Willow in their conversation. (which was kind of shitty in itself - I mean, you shouldn’t bring a 15-year-old girl into your relationship drama, you know? even if said girl has shown approval of your relationship and wants you to get back together with your ex...) And in my mind I was like: “Oh, okay, so this must be when she makes the decision to go to Rack’s, because talking about Tara triggered her and she needed the palliative.” Like, I could almost understand why she needed the magic/drugs. But then Dawn notices they have been walking down the wrong path for a while, which means that Willow was set on visiting Rack - and dragging Dawn along - before bringing Tara up. So, uncool all around. 
18) 
DAWN: Well, what about the movie? It starts at nine.
WILLOW: We'll make it. I, I'll just be a minute. And it doesn't matter if we miss the trailers.
DAWN: I like the trailers.
So do I, Dawn :(
19) OH MY GOD, SHOW, WE GET IT! MAGIC = DRUGS!! 
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20) I’m both Buffy and Spike, tbh.
BUFFY: Last night... was the most perverse... degrading experience of my life. SPIKE: Yeah. Me too.
21) Even as Buffy continues to claim she’s disgusted by Spike and herself for agreeing to have sex with him, she’s really not as adamant as she used to be when actual feelings - his or her own - were brought up in their conversations. Like, when he tells her that she knows he loves her, she doesn’t refute this statement as she would’ve done before (”you’re in love with pain” “you don’t know what feelings are”.) Moreover, when Spike argues that their night together made her feel something, she quietly tells him: “Not love” instead of dismissing the idea of feeling something for him altogether. 
22) So, the super witch runs into ther magic-created monster, and she can’t do shit to fend him off? It’s the meek 15-year-old girl who has to do it.
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And like 5 seconds after being scared shittless, she’s playing Mario Kart with the car she hijacked and laughing it off, not paying attention to the girl sitting next to her who is rightfully terrified and screaming in fear?
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See? This is what I mean when I say Willow thought she was almighty. She honestly believed she could do no wrong. Even in a situation in which has clearly fucked up, she still believes she’s going to get her way. And yes, I get she was highor whatever, but this still was Willow only heightened.
23) ugh this scene is so difficult to watch, but damn did she have it coming...
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(the screenshot makes it look kind of hilarious, though, but it’s so uncomfortable to watch)
24) But then Willow breaks down and it’s hard not to feel for her because we can tell she’s truly sorry. And this is why I love Buffy so damn much...
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In spite of what Willow had put Dawn through and in spite of her own anger at her friend, Buffy still understands that Willow needs her, and so she casts her own feelings aside and finds it in her to comfort and help her. This is why she’s a hero - her never-ending forgiveness and selflessness.
25) Okay, this is why I believe Willow didn’t need a trigger (Tara’s death) to go dark...
WILLOW: I don't know. The magic, I... I thought I had it under control, and then... I didn't. (...) But I mean... if you could be... you know, plain old Willow or super Willow, who would you be? (...)
BUFFY: Will, there's nothing wrong with you. You don't need magic to be special.
WILLOW: Don't I? I mean, Buffy, who was I? Just... some girl. Tara didn't even know that girl.
Tell me if this doesn’t have “supervillain origin story” written all over it. 
26) “It’s over.”
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Easier said than done, isn’t it?
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