#although right now. for about maybe 4 or so years i dont know if we'd be able to get those studies
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okay time to ramble about this
aka believing that they are *literally* said fictional character and encouraging others to do the same.
the post where this comes from was a joke post. you can acknowledge that you "are" a fictional character in some form, while still recognizing you are separate from the literal character. say i am a freddy fazbear introject, and i say "lol im freddy fazbear in real life im like the character but real" and i make jokes about being Really Freddy Fazbear. if i recognize i am freddy fazbear *in real life*, and not freddy fazbear *still in the pizzeria*, i don't see that as bad or unhealthy. especially because there's humor in that
does not fully separate the experiences of whether someone simply relates to a character or whether someone is in a delusional/psychotic state in which they can't recognize the difference between them and a character.
there's also a lot of nuance between those two states. there's relating a little, relating a lot, introjecting small bits of a characters traits, being an introject/fictionkin, and then delusion of being the character stuck in that situation. there are introjects that see themselves as "actually x character" but also recognize the difference between them as a sentient person in a living body, and they're different than those who think their body is in the fictional story of the media they think they're from.
There's no clinical sources exploring this [fictionkin/otherkin] phenomenon.
i am surprised that there's not a lot, especially to how similar it seems to fictional introjects and how common it seems to be. although i was more wondering because i see it as a sort of fictional introjection in singlets (at least if you ignore any personal spiritual beliefs and consider even the spiritual / reincarnation otherkin/fictionkin to be psychologically based), and as a system with fictional introjects, we do relate to fictionkin and their experiences.
to me, i think it's just a variant of human self identification. whether or not you see yourself as "a person with traits of freddy fazbear" or "a version of freddy fazbear" or "freddy fazbear reincarnated" or "literally freddy fazbear in a human body in this life" they're all still fine and dandy. when it gets bad in a delusional and anti recovery way is when you start mixing up the fictional world with this world, and believe you're in the fictional world instead of being a person in the real world.
and it's harmful because if you mix up fantasy with reality, that could lead to you hurting yourself or others, not expecting the outcomes that would happen (so being freddy fazbear, if you break skin, it wouldn't matter if you were an animatronic made of cloth and wires, but in our world you'd be hurting yourself and you might bleed, or you might think you're stronger than you are and break a bone or something). i can't think of why else it'd be harmful besides it can lead to harmful situations like that
i do think "source separation" as in letting yourself be canon-divergent and act different and more unique than source is good for self expression reasons, but that doesn't inherently mean you have to see yourself as less "you". you can be as canon divergent as you want and still see yourself as 100% freddy fazbear still. and that's not inherently unhealthy i think.
tldr theres lots more variation between just relating to a character and having a delusion, and joking about how you literally are the character doesn't inherently mean you're having an unhealthy delusion of believing you're the character in the characters situation. also imo fictionkin is singlet fictional introjection / singlet version of fictives. and uhhh freddy fazbear in real life is awesome. idk why i picked freddy fazbear as my example introject source but i did. yeah.
(also thanks this was meant to be a throwaway account/username bc i wanted to yell about syscourse and i've just kept using it to syscourse and occasionally not-syscourse-discourse. funny numbers in names fun. leetspeak is nice for usernames)
actually im going to straight up ask about this
@starlitvases if identifying as a fictional character as a part/alter/headmate in a system is bad and anti-recovery, what do you think of fictionkin? (specifically psychologically, regardless of if a specific fictionkin thinks its spiritual or psychological). what makes that different or similar to fictional introjects? is it just as unhealthy in your eyes? if being fictionkin is healthy, why are fictional introjects unhealthy/anti-recovery?
#(leetspeak isn't good for readability in normal text but also i do find it fun. i just encourage it less bc it's harder to read)#(also i love yapping in tags because i'll be typing and then i'll see a suggested tag and just forget what i was writing)#(and giggle at whatever it suggested)#anyway uhh if you're reading these go drink water or something. do a self care!! now!!!#i need to get myself somethign to eat i just wanted to check the other tumblr#also i do want more studies on fictionkin and fictional introjects but like#the best we get is some DID papers talking about how fictives exist and sometimes happen#and then the general information about the everyone-experience of introjection#the introjection everyone gets cause it came free with their human body#although right now. for about maybe 4 or so years i dont know if we'd be able to get those studies#for no particular reason of course 😁
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Trigger warning ⚠️ domestic violence.
I've typed this story a million times so I'm just going to summarize as much as I can.
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A few days ago I was assaulted by my partner's family members. And as I've mentioned, I've typed this a million times and I'm honestly just exhausted thinking about it, but we could use some help.
My partner has always had a transphobic family. (I don't have anyone but my dad, who's in no position to help anyone.)
Her mom used her disability against her and manipulated her into giving her MOST of her checks. She's abused the system and my girlfriend.
When I met Jackie, she was with a terrible biggot. Jackie had came out, and her mother conspired with an abusive long distance ex, to fly her here, to stage an "intervention" and stop my partner from transitioning.
It worked. For years.
I met Jackie here on tumblr, we became good, SECRET friends because she wasn't allowed to talk to anyone.
I told Jackie openly about my views regarding gender and how I myself, was not cis.
Eventually she told her partner about us playing games together, which she responded to by harassing me.
Jackie ended up spilling the beans to me, about her mom, about the ex, everything. I realized that she had been extremely isolated and controlled her whole life.
So I intervened.
I got the two of them to separate, which wasn't smooth because Jackie was scared. She had been with her abuser for 9 years at this point. She's never known anything else.
The ex moved back to her state, and I started seeing Jackie, although she was stuck at her mom's... who was trying to play innocent at this time.
Eventually, I kinda just came and picked her up, she stayed the night, she didn't want to go back home. And I can't blame her. The house wasn't only disgusting, her family microagressed her all the time and they would tell her to pretty much stay in a dark room all day.
Ofc I didn't bring her back.
During early quarantine, we had a lot of self reflection and she started distancing herself from her mother, coming around to holding her accountable for her horrible actions.
Her mom messaged her things like "Why won't you talk to me? It's like you're trying to punish us!" Ect, just every fucking manipulative thing she could say, without ever apologizing.
Unfortunately the place we were staying fell through when my best friend's ex husband decided he wants a divorce and decided to throw in some transphobic hatespeach towards me.
We were all looking for somewhere to go.
I'm sure you know where this is going but listen, she told us EVERYTHING we wanted to hear. She told us she's not hateful now, told us she would go to trans support groups, pride, said she's realized how much she loves Jackie and it's time to accept her- and look- we had NO WHERE TO GO. We have 2 cats and at the time, a car that has no a/c or functional locks. AND I have a chronic autoimmune condition that I recently started taking chemo meds for. (Methotrexate.)
I'm too sick to be on the street, and survive. I had to think about me, Jackie, Zoe, and Boops.
And Jackie wanted to go..
I told her we'd be cautious and try to get out asap.
Well, looking for places right when the housing market crashed really fucked us up. That- and because I had only just finally got approved for disability, means I was set back in life- and had no credit to my name. No credit= no place to live.
I had almost built enough, but things went down hill very quickly with her family. Which leads us to right now:
After weeks of microagressions, giving us breakthrough covid cases, yelling at us to clean other's messes, and forcing us and our cats to isolate in our room, many broken promises, and straight up transphobic hatespeach (because she promised to get vaccinated but then said nvm as soon as we moved in and she went on vacation and got covid and gave it to us, which nearly killed me--) she said not getting the vaccine "IS A CHOICE, JUST LIKE YOU BEING TRANS AND TAKING *gestures to my testosterone* THOSE DRUGS."
We just were avoiding each other while I desperately try to gather resources for us to get out, NOW.
Of course, that wasn't good enough, so when her step father messaged her in all caps about our cats having to stay in our room and "I WON'T FUCKING TELL YOU AGAIN" my partner had a breakdown..
Her mom had let her step dad talk to her like this her whole life, basically.
Out of desperation, we went to her sister for help, maybe hoping she'd give us a place to stay for two weeks while we sign off on the lease for our new apartment.
She pretended to want to help and even said... something fucking weird? She made the comment that I'm a good person and I'm so much like her own boyfriend, that it's "scary"...
A few hours later she came to the house. She talked nicely to us, to gain access to our bedroom.
Then she attacked me.
I called the police right before, and was on the phone with dispatch when she lunged at me because she was aggressively trying to MAKE Jackie go into a separate room WITHOUT ME and Jackie was saying no, BEGGING her to STOP.
I wasn't going to let her take Jackie into that room. She looked fucking crazy.
All of the family came into our room, her two sisters, her mom, and her cousin- When they heard yelling.
It was actually me telling her mom that she's a terrible mother, that triggered her sister to try and attack me- although I knew she was planning on trying to from the moment she came into our room.
And that was after her mom was screaming in my face that if I have something to say, say it now.
Dispatch heard everything and sent emt as well...
But the police stayed outside, talking to them for a WHILE before even asking for us.
Her cousin is the only one that would have stood up for me, saying her sister never should have tried to hit me. But he was in the room with Jackie, giving her support...
I faced the cops alone.
He already had "that look."
He shined a light into my eye, letting the family stay on the porch, throwing insults and just letting it happen. He asked me where I'm hurt, and before I could even show him the scratches on my arm, he said "how do I know YOU didn't put those there?"
I wanted to fucking die in that moment.
This is a conservative city.
No one has equality stickers here. No one flies gay flags. People here that are lgbt- they LEAVE.
This is EXACTLY WHY.
I said "well is there any reason I should tell you anything when, clearly, you're already bias?"
I looked at the emts. I looked at his partner. I looked at all the lights and people coming out of their houses-
And behind me was her family.
Her sister that assaulted me, was laughing about having work in the morning.
All of them were looking at me, with hate in their eyes.
He tried to feed me bullshit about "well if I'm taking someone to jail, there has to be proof."
He dismissed everything I attempted to say, until I just stared at the ground and he decided he did his job here.
I told him my whole fucking body hurts because I had 4 people fucking toss my 100lbs ass all over the fucking room, which was a mess that he refused to look at.
He said "I don't see bruises."
I SPAT "BRUISES TAKE TIME?"
He retorted IMMEDIATELY- "YOU'RE NOT EVEN RED."
I asked what about the dispatcher- she seemed concerned- to which he said "you see, sometimes when people call us- they scream and be dramatic- for a quicker response."
I asked what we could do while the two weeks go by for our new place, and he fucking said "I DONT KNOW. BARRICADE YOURSELF IN YOUR ROOM OR SOMETHING."
Needless to say, we are now safe, in a hotel and I've gotten in touch with a few lgbt organizations that are attempting to help us get justice.
Unfortunately because it's a holiday weekend, all we can do is wait right now.
Our first order of business is getting a protection order, so that we can retrieve the rest of our things without her sister trying to attack us again. (I say us because she kept jumping towards Jackie, like she was threatening to hit her.)
I've been so gaslit and victim blamed that I was too scared to go to the er, even though this all happened in the midst of a flare, possibly including my liver health.
There's so much more to this story, as I'm sure other trans people can relate.. unfortunately.
The emts reluctantly offered to take me to the er, but I was like "and leave my partner here with them?" And he just fucking shrugged dude.
I hate this city.
I want out so bad but unfortunately I've committed to a year, but at least it'll be *our* apartment.
We could NOT stay there for two more weeks. Her step dad is a violent offender that has attempted to murder a homeless prostitute over some fucking pocket change- and he has a GUN in the house.
This hotel might run us into a hole, despite it being the cheapest, shittiest hotel in town, it's still going to be about 700$ for ONE week.
To ADD INSULT TO INJURY, SOMEONE ATTEMPTED TO STEAL MY VEHICLE WHILE WE'VE BEEN STAYING HERE.
I'm feeling incredibly paranoid and unsafe, but I'm on anxiety meds now at least and its SORTA helping us cope (My partner and I have the same Dr and she gave her permission to have some.)
The organization BRAVO is trying to help us with a hotel voucher, but because of all the natural disasters, it's hard to find room in charity for people like us, which is fair enough. We aren't immediately on the street, and for that I'm incredibly thankful.
However, if you or anyone you know wish to help you can donate to venmo: kittyzibby. Or you could just signal boost this.
If you can't help, I understand. And IF YOU'RE STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY, don't worry about it, for real.
Right now I'm just scared we'll go into debt before getting the apartment settled in.
I will update on things once our case moves along more, and we were already considering turning to OF sexwork before all of this, so if there could be support that way, maybe we'll get that going once we get moved in. That way, I feel good about providing a service in return.
Thank you so much for sticking with us during all of this. And really- we're doing much better today. We've given each other pep talks, but we are still determined to start our lives together.
Her family was merely trying to scare me away from her, but I got my girl's name tatted on me for a reason.
I know I'm not the bad person here.
Every time Jackie is feeling more gender euphoric, and showing me her changes, and seeing her get more confident, the more I know that what I'm doing with and for her, is right.
I love her so much. And I will never abandon her, like they tried to get me to do.
Jackie is taking a break from some socials, but she's given me permission to talk about what's been happening.
She needs justice too.
I will update as much as I can, but seriously, I think we both just have a fire under our asses now.
Mentally, we're stronger than ever.
Thank you for reading. My heart really goes out to the rest of the queer community that have experienced or are going through similar things.
It's really made me realize why we need to stick together and fight this bigotry bullshit! 🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈
#tw abuse#tw#trigger warning#tw domestic violence#tw trauma#tw assault#tw hatecrime#tw transphobia#tw homophobia#alt#emoboy#emo boy#piercings#altboy#alternative#vent#trans#ftm#genderqueer#nonbinary#enby#nb#transmasc#transgirl#transpoc#trans poc#battery#bruises#tw bruises#tw scratches
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