#altho i guess its also a pretty specifically american thing i think so that could cause some disconnect
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dirt-grub · 3 years ago
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i'm not gonna lie, i had never seen anything about it replacing the n word until i saw that one post. id told my friends how people were reacting weirdly to learning about it, and none of my friends knew the origin either? we all thought it was people just being funny talking like old christian guys
oh god yeah the original is old as shit i remember seeing it in like 2016 or something. i think its just that its now reaching white people (tm) who dont know and are like super shocked so its this big deal when its not lmfao. its like those kids on tiktok realizing lean isnt like. fruit punch or whatever they thought it was lolll
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loveshacks · 4 years ago
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diego and soundman's accents
this one was a little harder since neither of them are given specific bithplaces in canon. i had to make a few assumptions in order to assign them an accent ^^' but somehow i feel like i got a more precise idea of their voices than gyro and johnny's?
Soundman: in canon, he's never given a more specific heritage than "native american" which, thank you. thanks. that helps. also for all my ~15 minutes of forum scouring i could not find anyone else who cared to try and figure out what tribe he might be. So I will do my best:
We know at least that they live somewhere in the desert, with their intro scene having a backdrop of mesas and cacti. we also know that they ride horses, which helps to narrow it down a little. based on that im guessing Apache, since Apache people are more well known for their horseback riding than their neighbors in the desert, the Puebloans. Some Apache people did live in tipis like Soundman's tribe seems to, but the Apache groups that lived in the desert (Lipan and Mescalero) generally lived in wikiups, which are similar, but less easily transportable. Like I said he doesn't seem to be based on any specific tribe, so the references to Native culture are all over the place.
But as if Apache is specific enough! Apache itself has two distinct languages within it (Eastern and Western) and at least four dialects within those. I'm going to assume Soundman is Mescalero Apache specifically, which would mean he speaks Mescalero-Chiricahua. Here is a sample of someone switching between english and Mescalero- altho that's a much more modern example, i think we can assume that's pretty close to how Soundman would speak!
My guess is that he learned english entirely from his books, since his tribe seems to be pretty anti-contact, so i believe his english would be pretty accented and probably become more adapted/smooth throughout the race. ok transcription time!
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/ aj wɛl k'las͜ t̬ɛ k'an.t'ɛ.nɛnt wɛt maj fiːt ɛ'lõ: /
"eye well c(l)ass t'e cantenent wet my feet el-oan" (VERY roughly) here's the IPA reader , i recommend Ines for best results
reader friendly text: aj wɛl klas͜ t̬ɛ kantɛnɛnt wɛt maj fiːt ɛlõ:
the mescalero language does not have the [ð] (that, the), [ɹ] (red), or the [w] sounds, so i figure the "th" jumps to the next best thing, a flap [t̬ ] (butter, medal) and an [l] is slipped in in place of the [ɹ] as they are both pronounced in the same area of the mouth, assuming he doesn't just skip over the sound entirely. as for the [w] sounds, the neighboring languages, Western Apache and Navajo both include a [w] sound in their alphabet, so i don't think it's impossible for Soundman to say 'wet water is wet,' assuming he had contact with people outside his tribe.
The biggest difference is in the vowels. Mescalero does not have the [ɪ] (will, hit), [ə] (alone), [əʊ] (own, loan), or [ɒ] (cross, hot), and those are just the sounds i needed for this sentence ^^'. They do however have 4 different nasal vowels, which are kind of hard to imagine the sound of if you aren't familiar with them, but think of how the french say "jean" and you have a nasal 'a' right there. So I think Soundman would often slip back into nasal vowels, especially in place of a vowel/nasal consonant combo at the end of a word: the end of 'alone' slips to the soft palate, and he doesn't hit the 'n' sound on its own. Mescalero also doesn't have any diphthongs, most notably the [au] in sound. so his name probably sounds more like / sã: mã / assuming it's not a translation of some longer phrase.
The vowels would be the defining feature of his accent, since it seems a lot of english vowels don't translate into mescalero. Also, didn't get to mention this, but mescalero also has quite a few sounds that are more...lisp-y (i guess?), like [ɬ], [ɣ] and and [k'] idrk if i can write out an accurate pronunciation, check them out on this interactive chart. So i think he would end up using those sorts of sounds pretty often especially in place of tighter consonants, so like 'slip' might become 'shlip' and 'contact' might become "conta(cht) " with the ending "k" sound going towards the soft palate and being pretty closed off.
Diego: he's a poor british dude, so you'd think we could just pin him with a cockney accent and call it a day. Sadly it's just not that easy. And i like making things complicated. Cockney accents are found among lower class Londoners- aka city dwellers, and Diego was born and raised somewhere in the countryside. A few miles (or kilometers i guess, we're in the UK now) can really be a world of difference on an accent. so:
during his intro his parents take him "into the mountains" so that puts us up in the north of the country- and then he flows down a river and grows up on a farm. So I am pinning him with a Yorkshire accent, since it's an area of countryside directly next to the mountains, while newcastle seems a little too north (but imagine geordie diego lol) and scouse (liverpool) seems a little too far south/also on the other side of the mountains.
Here is the oldest example i can find of a yorkshire accent, someone born in 1912, and luckily it doesn't sound tooo different from the modern accent, at least not to my american ears :~). But, given his goal of 'climbing the ranks of society' it also makes sense for him make an effort to cover up his natural accent in order to sound more posh (aka upper received pronunciation). I'm thinking then that his speech would be characterized by a lot of dropped r's/ non-rhoticity (obv), glottal stops at the end of words (mostly to replace t's d's and k's), omitting h sounds from the beginning of words, as well as diphthong vowels and a majority of frontal vowels. he might even roll his 'r's if they're in the middle of a word, like 'brando' / bɾɑ:ndɔ /
if he's really minding himself though, he'll be sure to enunciate his t's & h's, follow the rises and falls of upper RP, and not roll his r's, since that would give him away as a...u know, / blʊ:dɛ kʰʊ:ntɾɛ: fʊ:k /
the vowels would be a little harder to mind, since upper rp vowels are generally formed nearer the front of the mouth, while yorkshire vowels are less restrained, more open (formed with a low tongue/open mouth), and not very subtle. yorkshire accents can also create diphthongs where there are none, so floor may be pronounced, flu-or.
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/ a:bɛts kʰɑ:ntʰ be: fɛkst jʊs laɪʔ feɪtʰ /
" 'abets c(ah)n't b(eh) fex'd, joos lai' fate" (roughly) IPA reader i recommend Geraint or Amy to get the best results.
kinda weird sounding. i know. like i said, i think he would have trained himself to hit his t's (otherwise it would sound like, "abe's, ka' fae' " ) and some more posh sounding vowels like in can't (caaahn't) and be (beehh). And then there would be the bits of his natural accent that slip thru the cracks, like the dropped 'h' in habits, and the long 'u' sound in 'just.' (dkm he might sound sorta like louis tomlinson)
so there u have it ^_^ i might do valentine, steven steel and hot pants next
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mag200 · 7 years ago
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here u go
1. Do you ever doubt the existence of others than you?
uh i tend to either doubt the existence of everyone including myself, or doubt my own existence but not everyone else’s
2. On a scale of 1-5, how afraid of the dark are you?
like 1 or 2 i live for the night bicth
3. The person you would never want to meet?
this is hard because even people i truly hate i would want to meet so i can fight them. so maybe jrr tolkien bc my expectations are probably too high and meeting him would be like “oh right ur a just a real and regular person that existed righto”
4. What is your favorite word?
probably “fuck” lets be real it’s just so flexible
5. If you were a type of tree, what would you be?
i have been asking myself this question my entire life and i cannot yet answer with certainty but i rlly relate to swamp maples
6. When you looked in the mirror this morning what was the first thing you thought?
“damn im good at cutting my hair” (i chopped my bangs last night)
7. What shirt are you wearing?
a feminist tee shirt my cousin’s girlfriend made
8. What do you label yourself as?
a goth bitch. a gay motherfucker. a sleepy boi.
9. Bright room or dark room?
uhh i like a lot of natural light, i don’t have blinds on my windows so it can get bright but the best is early morning or evening when its pretty dark out and i have my string lights turned on. so i guess low-to-neutral lighting.
10. What were you doing at midnight last night?
sleeping lol.
11. Favorite age you’ve been so far?
18 was reeeaal good but i’m gonna be 21 next and i am looking forward to that i think it will be a fun time
12. Who told you they loved you last?
my dad or my stepmom like yesterday probably
13. Your worst enemy?
not to be an edgelord but. my own brain probably.
14. What is your current desktop picture?
usually a pretty nature picture bc im a basic bitch, rn its this
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15. Do you like someone?
um i like taylor swift
16. The last song you listened to?
the 10 hour version of “weightless” by marconi union (its my background music for nanowrimo)
17. You can press a button that will make any one person explode. Who would you blow up?
hahah um idk if i can say this without the fbi showing up
18. Who would you really like to just punch in the face?
no one in particular in this exact moment but. if a nazi shows up.
19. If anyone could be your slave for a day, who would it be and what would they have to do?
im uh not comfortable with this concept
20. What is your best physical attribute? (showing said attribute is optional)
idk maybe my eyes i like my face a lot but i also like my arms a lot but also my hairy legs? beautiful.
21. If you were the opposite sex for one day, what would you look like and what would you do?
first of all it would be pretty lit bc i’m genderfluid and i’d have a great time looking physically masc. so ideally i’d have long hair and a beard and i would just go for a hike and write and be beautiful.
22. Do you have a secret talent? If yes, what is it?
i dont have anything thats a secret to everyone but like most people dont know that i used to snowboard all the time and was real fuckin good at it
23. What is one unique thing you’re afraid of?
that theres a monster in the toilet thats going to reach up and grab me while im peeing
24. You can only have one kind of sandwich. Every sandwich ingredient known to humankind is at your disposal.
alfalfa sprouts, sharp cheddar cheese, hummus, cucumbers, spicy mustard, turkey, and figs on rye bread
25. You just found $100! How are you going to spend it?
tattoo definitely
26. You just got a free plane ticket to anywhere in the world, but you have to leave immediately. Where are you going to go?
ICELAND
27. An angel appears out of Heaven and offers you a lifetime supply of the alcoholic beverage of your choice. “Be brand-specific” it says. Man! What are you gonna say about that? Even if you don’t drink booze there’s something you can figure out… so what’s it gonna be?
i literally have no idea what i like so. i would pass the offer on to my dad he is much wiser in the lore of alcoholic beverages than i am.
28. You discover a beautiful island upon which you may build your own society. You make the rules. What is the first rule you put into place?
no TERFs.
29. What is your favorite expletive?
mother of fuck.
30. Your house is on fire, holy shit! You have just enough time to run in there and grab ONE inanimate object. Don’t worry, your loved ones and pets have already made it out safely. So what’s the one thing you’re going to save from that blazing inferno?
uh my journals
31. You can erase any horrible experience from your past. What will it be?
jesus christ. um. no im not getting into this shit here tbh i didnt read all these questions before reblogging this thing sorry.
32. You got kicked out of the country for being a time-traveling heathen who sleeps with celebrities and has super-powers. But check out this cool shit… you can move to anywhere else in the world!
iceland here i come.
33. The Celestial Gates Of Beyond have opened, much to your surprise because you didn’t think such a thing existed. Death appears. As it turns out, Death is actually a pretty cool entity, and happens to be in a fantastic mood. Death offers to return the friend/family-member/person/etc. of your choice to the living world. Who will you bring back?
of course Death is a cool entity you dont have to tell me that. anyway i have not yet lost someone in my family to death that i was super close to so. i’d bring back carrie fisher.
34. What was your last dream about?
i was in a deep crater trying to climb out to look beyond the rocks... i knew the ocean was supposed to be there and i was supposed to be able to see japan from there if i could climb up?? but when i got to the top and looked out, the ocean was gone and a barren landscape lay before me, images sliding into place like a powerpoint presentation superimposed on the sky of the apocalypse that had struck during my exile, the art and culture that was lost, the demise of the world. i climbed back down to chill in the bottom of my crater.
35. Are you a good….[insert anything you’d like here]?
yes i am a good.
36. Have you ever been admitted to the hospital?
yeah only three times i think but all within the same year.
37. Have you ever built a snowman?
hell yeah
38. What is the color of your socks?
not wearing any right now but the last pair i was wearing are orange, brown, and tan
39. What type of music do you like?
uhh lots of kinds but my top 3 are taylor swift, my chemical romance, and hayley kiyoko
40. Do you prefer sunrises or sunsets?
sunrises but if i lived on the west coast and could watch the sunset on the water i might prefer that
41. What is your favorite milkshake flavor?
chocolate
42. What football team do you support? (I will answer in terms of American football as well as soccer)
i dont care about sports teams buddy
43. Do you have any scars?
yeah i have a bunch from just playing and doing weird shit in the woods and a lot from picking at bug bites for too long, but i also have a couple self-harm scars from a while back
44. What do you want to be when you graduate?
idk exactly but im going back to school soon for environmental science and i’d love to do anything that lets me be outside and work with plants or animals
45. If you could change one thing about yourself, what would it be?
i’d either be born DMAB or have a brain that isn’t so goddamn forgetful
46. Are you reliable?
u mm idk i try to be but i am not for everyone
47. If you could ask your future self one question, what would it be?
what do u regret not doing
48. Do you hold grudges?
i do but very selectively, only for like one or two people
49. If you could breed two animals together to defy the laws of nature, what new animal would you create?
um idk maybe i could combine goats and turkey vultures into some kind of goat/dragon/bird of prey. think of the mayhem.
50. What is the most unusual conversation you’ve ever had?
i genuinely cannot remember sorry. but it was probably in an online forum in 2007 during the height of random humor.
51. Are you a good liar?
uhhh doubtful but i used to think i was good lol
52. How long could you go without talking?
i’ve gone a couple days without talking before and im sure i could go much longer, maybe months or years even altho it would not be healthy for me.
53. What has been you worst haircut/style?
junior year when i thought i knew how to cut my own hair (but i really didn’t) and i wanted to look like a knockoff brand Skins character (and i really did). that wasn’t rlly good but it was fun and i dont regret it.
54. Have you ever baked your own cake?
nah im not really a cake person
55. Can you do any accents other than your own?
i can sometimes do a british accent which i’ve been told is convincing to american ears but is probably very overdone. i can’t speak other accents but my brain gets stuck thinking in scottish or like a cowboy accent from old westerns a lot of the time.
56. What do you like on your toast?
lots of stuff depending on my mood but my fav is a runny egg where the bread can soak up all the yolk.
57. What is the last thing you drew a picture of?
eleven from stranger things
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58. What would be you dream car?
i rlly rlly miss my old car that had to be junked almost a year ago. i don’t remember what kind it actually was but it was from the 80s and was a faded baby blue and small and boxy and the seats still smelled like cigars. any car from that time period but with a modern stereo + aux cord is the dream. or a big lesbian pickup truck like what bella has in twilight but with decent gas mileage. the dream.
59. Do you sing in the shower? Or do anything unusual in the shower? Explain.
yes but only if im home alone. what i do most in the shower is have imaginary conversations or pretend that i’ve been trekking through middle earth for four months without bathing and this is the first opportunity i’ve had to clean myself and i enjoy the shit out of it. or i pretend i’m a dragon.
60. Do you believe in aliens?
yeah dude definitely
61. Do you often read your horoscope?
no ive done that like maybe twice ever
62. What is your favorite letter of the alphabet?
R its just so good
63. Which is cooler: dinosaurs or dragons?
dragons but i fuckgin love dinosaurs dude
64. What do you think about babies?
i’m a little awkward/insecure around them but i feel deeply protective when i hold one and in general i think theyre pretty awesome
65. Freebie! Ask anything interesting you can think of.
hah motherfucker u forgot to ask me one
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