#also. she probably has some type of autisms and Maybe ocd but i dont know enough abt ocd to say so
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me circa early 2021: yeah so i made some characters but im not gonna make em tragic or anything! i dont get why everyone talks about torturing their ocs all the time lol
me now: ouuh... i thuink i gave her depression
#i think this is just what happens when you make characters. of course im not making everything hell for fun but i dont think theres a way to#make a narrative where the characters don't go thru some shit#there are certainly some Bad plotpoints i've vetoed because they were too much but good lord its like. auugh you know? auugh#idunno its like 4am icant think#jem.txt#also. she probably has some type of autisms and Maybe ocd but i dont know enough abt ocd to say so#but neither of those are like. canon canon since i don't have my own adequate research on those. i am most likely neurodivergent but i dont#know with What exactly so im just gonna. tread lightly
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Who in the a class is in some kind of therapy?
what a question LMAO. but honestly, a very fair one indeed. while discussing this, es and i ended up basically dividing it into three groups (if someone isn’t mentioned, it just means none apply)
Is In Therapy Currently
Isadora || as we know from the canon of S3, isa is currently in therapy to work through the grief of valerie dying as well as like... the built up abandonment issues, anxiety, and struggles she has articulating or processing emotions lmao. it also helps her learn better methods to work with her autism
Farkle || i mean... we all watched S1 & 2. we know why he’s there LMAO and by god does he need it. it’s good that he’s improving though!!
Chai || she officially started therapy after the events of S1 while she was abroad because evidently her parents divorce really fucked with her emotional state and coping mechanisms -- as well as having sort of emotionally distant parents and having to navigate the world on her own. basically, money =/= nurturing. but yeah i think she realized what she did with tormenting her classmates wasn’t Healthy perhaps and so she sought out the resources to fix it on her own. her parents certainly weren’t going to be much help
Clarissa || clarissa has been in and out of therapy here and there since she was little, mainly for managing OCD. usually she’s fine and her appointments are infrequent (monthly at this current rate), but she tends to go back to her therapist when circumstances get very stressful, like the events of S2 (she mentions going back to therapy in a scene with charlie and haley in 210)
Not In Therapy Currently, but Has Before
Riley || though not by choice, riley went to therapy for a stretch of time in the aftermath of her bullying experience freshman year. by the start of S1, though, she’s on the tail-end of it after a whole summer full of it. she also had stints in family therapy when she was little when cory and topie were having their first bouts of marriage problems, but she doesn’t remember all that obviously. she’s thought about going back for herself because of all the divorce strain, but ultimately opted against it bc she didn’t want to go through cory or topanga. she mainly sticks to talking to eric if things get too overwhelming and using the coping mechanisms she already has
Darby || miss darbs spent some time in therapy in late elementary school due to having issues socializing with her peers. i think she’s always been a bit awkward and desperate to please, so that can get messy with kids cause kids are mean. she was also definitely bullied at that age for being really tall and so i think her parents put her therapy out of genuine concern just with the hopes that like, she’d be able to develop some coping mechanisms and have a safe space to get advice if they didn’t have the answers. and in some ways it helped, other ways no -- her friendships aren’t the healthiest still (as she’s the doormat), but i think she holds her own BETTER with the plastics having gone to therapy than if she never developed those emotional tools at all
Has Not / Is Not but Really Fucking Should Be in Therapy
LUCAS || this is like the most obvious blinking lights sirens wailing example ever. he is a walking textbook for endorsing therapy. between the domestic abuse, mommy and daddy issues, self-esteem in the subbasement, lack of life purpose, inability to read others well emotionally, inability to process his own emotions, the physical aversion due to his trauma, his kleptomania, his risk-taking behavior, his habit of lying, the fact that he has canonically walked off for days at a time with no warning, explanation, or safety net, that he sleeps in a fucking technician’s booth, he used to free-climb buildings SOMETIMES IN THE RAIN, no sense of self-preservation, intrusive thoughts, inability to express appreciation or affection in a normal non-stressful way...... this man is a therapist’s dream and nightmare. they could spend YEARS unpacking him. but will he ever go to therapy? no. because he a) doesn’t think he needs it, b) can’t ask for help ever, and c) could never afford it. and at this point, d) if his dad heard he was seeking help like that he would shut it down instantly. anyway, he’s the biggest case here. underline him in red
Charlie || charlie is a great example of someone who is like coping... sort of... not really... it Looks like they’re coping but they aren’t really and they really need help. like yes, charlie has stability in certain areas of his life that others don’t, and he’s extremely self-aware of his privileges, but i think that’s part of the problem. he’s convinced himself he doesn’t need or shouldn’t get external help because there are people who have it so much worse than him and he doesn’t... he doesn’t really need it, does he? he’s fine. he’ll be fine. and even if he did think about getting “help,” i think his first instinct -- and advice from others -- would be to go to his church leadership, which is not a suggestion made with ill will but just isn’t helpful considering half of his trauma is tied to his relationship with god and the church and faith. he needs a more objective space to unpack all of that, and obviously church itself is not the answer. i think that charlie will be able to work through a lot of his initial issues on his own with time and patience with himself (something we’re in the thick of right now -- we’re just barely in the acceptance phase), but he should really go to therapy in the future just to like... work through all of the long-term trauma he endured from his upbringing and bridgette’s exile and the dueling psychology of church vs sexuality. like... that’s gonna take some time to unravel and he needs to be in the right place to pursue that on his own. will he, i dont know, but i think when he does a certain heaviness he’s been carrying his entire life will finally like... lift. and he’ll be able to breathe better
Asher || so asher is a bit of a clusterfuck LMAO like he’s diagnosed officially with generalized anxiety disorder but he never saw a specialist, his mom diagnosed him since she’s a psychologist. the complexity here is that because of that... well, they say you should never let family be your personal doctors and i think that’s true for mental health professionals too. like emily basically gave asher the generic coping rundown when he was really young, and then he went on to develop his own coping mechanisms with, at least, a very fundamental understanding of what’s wrong with him. but he kind of developed his own complex about it all too, bc i think emily took pride in him being able to figure it all out and be so capable with his own mental health without ever going to therapy and he kind of internalized that, as well as having internalized a lot his mom’s perspectives and opinions as a mental health professional in a way that its like... well my MOM said that, so i feel kind of some type of way about it. so its all really complicated and twisted in his head and he just doesnt bother to unpack it (something, ironically, therapy would probably help lol). the thing about asher is that for all intents and purposes, he does cope well and he is really in tune with his own mental state. it’s just that he could seriously benefit from having an objective party help him untangle some of his neuroses i think and it would take some of the constant stress off his shoulders, but he’s honestly too stuck in his ways at this point to go. that being said, he’s a vocal advocate for therapy and its benefits -- just not for himself
Nigel || as discussed a bit in the ask i answered about him, i just think nigel carries way too much pressure on himself and he could benefit from someone helping him work through things instead of carrying all his stress on his own -- even if its less complex than some others. he’s like same range as clarissa.
Maya || maya has no issue with self-esteem, but i think she could still benefit from someone helping her actually unpack her issues over her dad and why she is the way she is. a therapist who specializes in narcissism would be a good fit for her -- not because she is one, but she does have... certain quirks where i think having that specialization can help unravel her motivations and actions a little more easily
Missy || she’s just a fucking mess. she shouldn’t be redeemed but i think therapy could really do her a favor and maybe make her less terrible and psychopathic towards people who aren’t like her. maybe
-- Maggie & Es
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sometimes i’m jealous of my mom for being more in touch with paranormal stuff than me (like effortlessly astral projecting without realizing thats what she was even doing while i’ve only ever had partial out of body experiences but get freaked out from the vibrations and all the sounds around me i’m exposed to and snap back in, or how she repeatedly hashad experiences where she feels shes awoken and is still in her room in the middle of the night and people she knows are next to her only to discover they passed away that night, or has dreams where some of those people will visit her for a while afterwards and tell her things that she later has confirmed irl that she couldnt have known)
but also honestly with how constant the feeling of being watched has been throughout my life without any real proof one way or the other of any of that, and with how much dwelling on that makes my intrusive thoughts flare up (that i then worry spirits or something could mind read and judge me for lol) maybe thats for the best.
the times in my life i’ve felt most in tune with this type of stuff ive been at my most comfortable and manageable with that paranoia (and was at the core of that, less stressed and distracted by extenuating circumstances). that thought is a bit comforting. i think many ways of thinking pathologized as neurodivergencies like ocd/schizo spectrum stuff/autism/adhd can make it easier to connect with this type of stuff but also much easier to have that connection muddled to something entirely off the mark by external factors and stressors. so even if i dont expect the same of everyone the idea that even if i’m not doing great with that right now that one day i could have a healthier connection with this type of stuff that has meant so much to me throughout parts of my life is helpful for me, i don’t have to resent my own self for having trouble with this stuff sometimes.
kinda went on a tangent there for a sec that wasnt very intelligible lol but also i think theres something to be said for when i was in high school and constantly was trying to astral project and yet entirely freaked out when i actually got there because i felt so exposed and vulnerable being half way out of my body and hearing/seeing all the things i didnt quite have a grasp on around my room (while my physical eyes were closed and covered) like i was just seeing astral stuff as an opportunity for escapism when i was doing badly which i dont think i should have been looking for as a goal there. i think it probably takes a lot of willingness that i wasnt in the space for or could benefit from. i’m not wording this well. i’m tired
also its just a whole nother factor in all this that my dads dead now. mixing up wanting and not wanting to communicate with spirits and all my messy emotions about his death makes it even harder to not have my brain totally wig out when i dwell on this type of stuff the past almost 2 years
#cpost#this post started weird but normal enough in my ability to express myself but then i had a wave of fatigue and now its just nonsense#that goes off on unintelligible half finished tangents. but i wrote it so long so i dont wanna just delete it after venting it all so.#posts that out you as a cr*zy person#surveillance -#death -
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