#also yes this is mainly about lore olympus
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I find the demonization of Demeter in supposedly feminist retellings of the Hades and Persephone story thoroughly fascinating because she was actually the myth's protagonist
A lot of retellings focus on the "lovebirds" but the myth was moreso focused on Demeter's quest to bring her daughter home than any romance they might've had. In fact, the original source material is entitled "Homeric Hymn to Demeter"
It followed the goddess of harvest searching desperately for the whereabouts of her kidnapped daughter, enlisting the help of deities and mortals alike along the way, and eventually forcing Zeus himself to come to a compromise through sheer stubborness and pure love for her child
An interpretation I really like is that the tale is an allegory for mothers in Ancient Greece whose daughters were taken away from them to be married off without them having any say in the matter
Putting all that aside, I'm really curious as to what prompted people to portray Demeter as a control freak who doesn't want to see her daughter happy with the one she loves when originally, she was simply a mother who fought tooth and nail to see her Persephone returned to her
#in which epher is shamelessly garrulous#late night rambles real#also yes this is mainly about lore olympus#mythological demeter defender till i die#she was one of the better gods#she had a temper but i dont recall her doing anything particularly evil like the other gods#sure she granted erisychthon insatiable hunger but that was after he cut down her sacred grove after she explicitly warned him not to#i haven't heard about her doing anything worse than that but i'd be interested in hearing about it if she has#and yes she did starve mankind which was what drove zeus to partly give persephone back but her child had literally been taken from her#it doesn't exactly justify it because people definitely died but it was a very human reaction and it displayed how much she loved persephon#while other gods' evil acts are usually done out of pleasure#anyways#greek mythology#demeter#persephone#hades#persephone and hades#hades and persephone#greek gods#lore olympus critical#lore olympus criticism#sorry people who enjoy lore olympus#ramblings
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I really want to see your post about how Katara is forcefully matured by the fandom, please!
Ok, while I wasn't ready to make that post in earnest, and frankly never might be, here's some of my cursory thoughts on the topic. I'd gladly talk about it in detail more but also ✨️fear✨️
So, let's get the obvious out of the way. Katara is a 14 year old. A child, barely a teen. In fact, the entirety of the gaang is made up of children.
Now, I haven't been fully active in the atla fandom in quite some time, mostly lurking on the peripheries, because the fandom is a shitshow. One of the reasons being the fact that most fans cannot, for the life of them handle the Gaang's inherent childishness.
This isn't just a Katara problem. Other than her, Aang suffers the most for the egregious crime of being a 12 year old survivor of a genocide. Suki is, of course, mainly ignored. The interpretations of Toph can vary wildly, from her being horrifically matured to being dissmissed as a chaotic, rude child. Zuko and Sokka's immature moments are looked at more permissively, being an angsty boi™️ and a goofy goober respectively.
I do find it odd that Aang doesn't get the "boys will be boys" pass, but ok, we'll blame it on him being... bald? a nice boy? not concerned with his own masculinity?
As for Katara, her maturity is treated like... a given. She's the mom of the group, the proverbial love interest, the feminist icon, the badass fighter, the trailblazer filled with feminine rage. The trophy wife to Aang, the (Lore Olympus style) Persephone to Zuko's Hades.
And true, she is, or at least can be, a lot of these things.
However she is, first and foremost, a child. This fact is presented to us on a silver platter in the first episode, when her and Aang are penguin sledding.
Katara : I haven't done this since I was a kid!
Aang: You still are a kid!
Katara is a child forced to mature. Her circumstances forced her to try to fill her mother's place and to fight for those who couldn't do so themselves. The fandom brands her as a mom friend. Sees her purely as an icon of empowerment. Or worse, degrades her character to being a love interest.
(im talking about both sides of the kataang/zutara debate. I have my biases, but I'm sure there are kataangers who treat her like this as well. I simply have encountered very few of them.)
Her story, while yes, has many themes of female empowerment is in huge part, a tragedy. The tragedy of a young girl forced to grow up much too soon.
Sadly, this is rarely spoken about. It's not spoken about directly and therefore a lot of the fandom doesn't see this. (Or simply doesn't want to see it)
This is not to say that Katara's more mature aspects should be dismissed or buried. She displays a lot of maturity for her age, to the point of being able to go toe to toe both intellectually and physically with the (admittedly usually incompetent) adults of the show. Additionally, she evolves as a character through the durtation of the show.
But a huge chunk of her maturity being forced and therefore unhealthy is a key aspect of her character.
I think what upsets me the most is that while the critiquing the idea of Katara being treated as the mom of the group in fanon is becoming more and more common, the treatment of her as something akin to a YA protagonist is on the rise.
Both these interpretations are so insulting to the character of Katara, what is wrong with you people?
I'm currently rewatching atla with a focus on Katara as a character (while also trying to give zutara a chance I am doing my best guys) and her childishness is an integral part of her. It's sad to see her treated as an adult by the fandom. And honestly unsettling, especially with how much of like a child she acts.
I wanna finish my rewatch before I give my full ramble on the topic. I also wanna look more into the many different opinions people in the atla fandom have on Katara's treatment by the show. Though even trying to skim the surfce was like injecting lemon juice directly into my tear ducts. Also I really, really don't wanna get sent death threats again.
I want to give the topic of Katara my full attention. However I don't think I'll ever make this post, actually. The atla fandom is a rabid horrid pack of creatures and I'm not sure if I wanna engage with all that.The post would probably bash a lot of things considered key arguments for Zutara, since, looking at Zutara through a child's doesn't exactly scream 'romance' and do I really want that on my blog?
Katara's role as a child isn't valued as much as her role as a woman and I just don't want to deal with people calling me mean names for talking about a little girl being traumatised.
I'd be glad to have a discussion but I made this blog mainly to have fun and enjoy a piece of media I like. I met some truly amazing people whom I can have really great discussions with, even if we don't agree. I don't want to jeopardise that by being a pretentious dick on a soapbox.
Call this and the last few posts I made on Katara me testing the waters.
#am i still choosing violence and gonna regret this later#probably#pro katara#<this hashtag is ridiculous btw. we are forcefully climbing the mountain of moral highground huh#katara#atla#avatar: the last airbender#the last airbender#avatar the last airbender#avatar#zuko#toph#aang#sokka#suki#pro aang
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I think the only part about the criticism for LO I can't agree with entirely is the size proportion between Persephone and Hades. Like, I don't know why, but there has been a huge discourse about how these tall men dating short women are somehow groomers and creepers?
I agree Persephone is infantilized but leave the HEIGHT out of it. I'm around 4"6' - 4"9' dating a guy who is 6"2' and three years older than me and I'm getting really tired of the critique "tall man dating shorter than average woman = creepy predator". Persephone is absolutely written like a toddler throwing a tantrum but as a short woman who expresses her inner child a lot and happens to be dating a taller, older guy, I'm getting tired of people infantalizing women who are not the average height or boob size. (Yes I've seen antis scream that women who are flat chested are minor coded!)
I can understand where you coming from and like I mainly agree. Though the main problem that I have is more so her proportions not simply her height... there is a really good post on this that I just can't find cause tumblr is shit for searching about that. Plus how her height is talked about.
Also I agree, I really don't like when critics of people rely on any physical part of their appearance.. alot of it is just borderline body shaming and infantalizaing. Most of the shit people try to pull is just.. really dumb and is often just trying to hide how people try to sanitize the sexuality of women and remove their choices by adding just unnecessary rules.
As for with lore olympus it's again more so the proportions (if anyone finds that post please tell me) and how her height is often heavily sexualized and tied to how she's presented as 'small and innocent'. It's conversations like Zeus asking how they would have sex when she's so 'itty bitty'.
I feel like I'm not explaining this as best as possible haufke but my point is that in lore olympus persephone infantiliztion and sexualization is closely tied at least at the beginning of the story to her height in just.. a really weird way. It's a problem I have with like.. how most of persephone physical traits are presented. She isn't allowed to just be a short women.. she needs to be sexualized for it both by characters and the story, along with her big boobs and nativity etc etc.
I will say that it's definitely more a problem with the beginning of the story and shows up very little now but lo definitely tried to play into this wrong idea that short women are inherently more naive and childish to play up persephone infantiliztion.
#I wrote this when very tired... like I agree with you basically fully#but like how persephone body is sexualized isn't good and like presents ideas that shouldn't be attached to real life-#if that makes sense???#someone please tell me I don't sound like an idiot ahufe#lo critical#anti lo#lore olympus critical#anti lore olympus
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My thoughts on Lore Olympus after a 2 day binge of the whole story
Very new to this fandom and obviously I don’t know the full history of it or of the author, so if you disagree with me feel free to share why, I’m welcome to hearing dif povs. Idk I was a little surprised to see so many antis after going online and seeing what different people thought of the series, majority positive but a lot of dedicated hate pages. This is just some of my thoughts in an unorganized shit post at 1 am so you can like or not like the series at the end of the day it’s rlly not that deep
I just finished Lore Olympus after binging it non stop for two days and I quite honestly loved it, ig what I didn’t know is that there was so many antis lmao. As always with any work there are valid critics. But I’m mainly going to talk abt what are arguments I disagree with. Obviously, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I agree with the comments about better size inclusivity and the occasional sloppy / cringe dialogue and the lack of LBTQ+ characters/ poor writing of them.
One main argument I’ve seen people be pressed about that I honestly don’t get is that people are mad that Rachel didn’t follow the exact stories or characterizations of the god based on their original stories in mythology. Honestly I thought it was pretty clear that myths are the main source of inspiration for the characters, Greek mythology and the Greek pantheon as a whole is more a vessel or inspiration from which is used to tell the story through a modernish lens that can resonate more with the audience of today. For example Thor in marvel isn’t Thor in mythology. Same goes for the character Apollo. He SUCKS in LO, but the character of Apollo in PJO is great. You can hate one and love the other because they are separate entities and characters, you can also love Apollo from mythology because guess what he isn’t Apollo from LO. They’re all separate and different characters and you’re welcome to think differently about all of them..
Another argument I’ve seen is cultural appropriation. Quite honestly, and I am not Greek or from Greece, but a. I think that argument is kinda ludicrous and b. Greek culture is no longer defined by myths told over a millennia ago. That’s like saying the culture in Egypt is defined by the pantheon they had over a millennia ago, it’s no all mummies and Pharohs. I get the story has a more western lense and doesn’t use much Greek culture. But idk take PJO as an example of using Greek myths and putting them in a western perspective, like Olympus is on top of the fucking Empire State Building and everything most of the time takes place in the US. Would usage of more Greek culture be enriching in both LO and PHO? Yes. But there are many instance of people taking stories from different cultures, stories that have been around for centuries, and adapting them to tell their own stories and putting their own creative spin to address what ever they want. Because at the end of the fucking day LO is just a webcomic inspired by Greek mythology and its pantheon.
Lastly and I won’t dedicate too much time to this argument because I’m just writing this as my brain goes with it but like why the fuck are people Minthe apologists. Like she’s complex and Hades was not perfect in that relationship either but y’all she verbally berated that man bringing up every insecurity and slapped him, both of them in general brought out the worst in each other, BUT IMAGINE if the roles were reversed. There’s a bunch of context prior to that event where it’s valid for her to be pressed at Hades but that the actions she took are not ok in any circumstances. I get that she was suffering herself and needed help but it’s still not ok to use other people as an outlet for your pain and to then try and Sabotage and destroy their lives post breakup.
At then end of the day you are all entitled to your opinions, I don’t have the inherently “right” one and reminder I read this series in two days so I’m new to the discussions and critics and am open to hearing others thoughts on why they disagree. This is a comic that to my understanding started as Rachel’s passion project and spiraled into something bigger and I honestly think that’s very impressive. There are plenty of critics of it and there always will be of not just LO but any body of work. I think the themes of sexual agency, mental health, navigating new, complicated and changing relationships with yourself, a partner, and your parents were honestly executed well, again nothing is perfect but from an amateur story teller I found it Ernest, human, and relatable.
But yeah this is just my 1 am brain rot thoughts bc LO is all I’ve been thinking about for the past 2-3 days lol. Sound off share your opinions I’m welcome hearing a different perspective as I just joined this fandom.
#writing#lo#lore olympus#Persephone#pjo#lore Olympus critic#lo critic#lo anti#anti lo#hades#Persephone x Hades
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LO RANT:
Genuinely believe the fans don’t know what Lore Olympus is even supposed to be anymore. It’s sad going into their comment sections and seeing so many fans be poisoned with utter hypocrisy and be so blinded that they don’t even read what they’re saying. This is why having just one positive opinion isn’t always the best way to go, it’s okay to say that Lore Olympus is not doing the best this is not going to kill Rachel. It’s fine if you’re getting tired of the plot stories, it’s more than fine if you can’t read anymore because of the bad character designs etc. Every time I see a fan it’s like they’re under some mind control and it truly does make me wanna shake my head especially when arguing with a critic, their points will always never make any sense or they’ll just be horrible takes.
For one I’ve noticed a lot of fans love to use the whole “this is how the myth goes!!!!” statement whenever someone has a problem with either the story or the characters in that episode that day. You guys please stop saying that shit, it’s getting old and it doesn’t even make sense. You can’t say that Lore Olympus is exactly like the myths and in the same breath defend Rachel’s abstract artistic choices by saying “she can do whatever she wants!! it’s a retelling!!” which one is it damnit? Is she following the myths or putting a massive spin on it? Pick one you can’t have both at the same damn time.
That’s the backwards thinking of this entire fandom that really trips me out though, the fans want two very opposite and different things to exist all at once but in reality it never will. Your webtoon is plagued with so much hypocrisy that even defending it or trying to make a point will make you a huge hypocrite. Lore Olympus does too much of “yes we can do this but no we cannot at the same time”, it’s never standing clear on beliefs, personalities, morals, relationships, etc. Everything always has to be both at the same time and I’m thinking the reason for that is because Rachel probably thought this would help her case more, like is pedophilia inside of the story? In a way yes but also no. Is feminism in the story? In a way yes but also no. Is mental health in the story? In a ways yes but also no. Are y’all seeing the pattern? Someone from outside of this fandom with zero knowledge about Lore Olympus cannot outright say that “Lore Olympus doesn’t talk about sexual traumas” because it does but it doesn’t at the same time. They just use both sides of every topic they decide to throw into the story that day so theirs never a person who can genuinely be upset that something isn’t there because it is, it’s just not being handled well or written with any decency.
Also last thing, I wish that a lot of the fans would stop the blatant sexualization of the characters it’s so uncomfortable to sit through and a lot of the comments are dehumanizing. There’s a difference between saying that the characters are hot and begging for them to literally scramble your insides and headcanoning how they fuck each other. Genuinely it’s getting out of control with how you guys treat this story like it’s some kind of kinky fanfic (which I can’t even blame you for because that’s what this is to Rachel at this point) mainly because there’s serious topics being discussed in your beloved comic that your amazing author decided to write into this series. So no, it’s never been about watching these random characters fuck each other it’s always been so much “deeper” than that sadly and even though I’ll never stop explaining how Lore Olympus never should’ve put those very real and serious conversations in her story if she was not going to shed any positive or even respectful light on those themes because it’s giving the readers a horrible depiction of all of them I will say that you all need to settle the fuck down and start realizing that this comic is more than seeing Persephone and Hades get naked (fucking barely, you don’t even see anything yet everyone still wants more detailed and graphic scenes).
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HI
my name is Sonata.
this will serve as my introductory post since i want to replace the damn intro i have. it's cringey to me now 😆
i thought of doing this but a bit better this time so people who want to follow me for some reason can brace on what's about to come in their following feed 😅
here's my persona in picrews (close-up and full body) if you want to see, and another picrew of my persona in comparison to what i look like irl 😅
anyways, I'm
a Filipino (unfortunately), my time zone is GMT+8:00
a '01 liner (meaning my birthyear is 2001)
afab, a bisexual and prefers she/her & they/them pronouns
not consistent. consistency does NOT exist in my dictionary, so if you follow me and expect consistency with my posts (meaning the posts i do, not the reblogs), lower your expectations bc i wing it most of the time 😆
multifandom. like literally multifandom. I'd stan anything as long as it interests me— no matter how much of an opposite those medias are or their fandoms are.
wanna see which fandoms I'm in? it's really... diverse 😆
Cardcaptor Sakura (or most CLAMP works in general)
LOONA (yes THAT kpop group with 12 members)
Kpop GIRL GROUPS in general 😆
Percy Jackson series (of course the book series, Heroes of Olympus & Trials of Apollo included)
Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Cat Noir (aka Miraculous Ladybug)
Spy x Family
Cookie Run (those running cookies/Ovenbreak and fighting cookies/Kingdom)
yumeiro patisserie
mermaid melody pichi pichi pitch
sailor moon
my little pony: friendship is magic (and equestria girls)
mainly slice of life/shoujo manga etc
barbie movies
five nights at freddy's (i hate horror & suspense but it's the lore that got me in 😭)
Taylor Swift (and a lot more western artists)
Cimorelli (an indie & self-made band that has helped me through a lot)
kpop survival shows
Stardew Valley
dream team (those darn minecraft youtubers whose leader loves to clown me on twitter 🙄)
and a lot more that I can't name on the top of my head
I also have various interests, but my main ones are
writing
music (specifically singing— i can sing)
photography
dancing (i can memorize choreos but can never execute them right
editing
clowning (basically analyzing stuff or putting different things and relating them with each other 😅
Right now I've been reblogging and posting stuff (mostly related to Cardcaptor Sakura Clear Card Arc) and if you're interested, the tags I use for them are:
memecaptor sakura (for the memes)
blabbcaptor (for the blabbers and not-so-deep analysis)
clipcaptor (for the clips I'd like to shine the spotlight on... though it's coming soon for now)
askcaptor (when people do asks, but again the naming is ccs-heavy but it can be any ask 😭)
I guess that's everything I can think of...? I'll definitely edit this the more I learn about how this app works, but until then, you can find me in these socials:
twitter: reveriewastaken & alicesclockland
tiktok: sonamoons
twitch: sonamoons
youtube: reveriewastaken
curiouscat: smiletwt
:)
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THE SPARTAN SPACE MARINES OF EARTH'S LEADERS! The Minotaurs | Warhammer ...
He was sitting there threatening our son and he's saying rude rude things and timing it with the TV same people don't know it's him saying it and it was just on with Emily and she's going to report it and the guy has to go he's trash and a lot of people are getting him but he needs to leave here would say that the whole time and we're going to finish the a******* off I'm tired of saying it but it needs to be said
He was a lot going on today we have a lot going on and we need a lot of stuff we don't have a ton of time and it's running out on this a****** it's dragging on and on overseas in the Eastern hemisphere lost 10% more and is down to having only 45% of what he had and is trying to take from people now but he's an idiot we are going to attack him in moments specific attacks to get information we need it badly
-there are a few things wrong people are cutting checks and saying to hold it until it's safe to send the empire heard it she got mad it was real math there. And they're attacking the idiots like they were before and we are . We're now going to war with the pseudo empire now we have been and we're going to help both sides down the idiots will soon today have only 7% in the general populace that's not much. But that itching to get rid of more and they are fighting Trump to the end.
We anticipate they'll lose more than 1% today and they are itching to do so the pseudo empire has blockade on Australia and New Zealand we are taking that blockade over and the Max and the foreigners are as well and we're taking their ships they are a bunch of c**** and they speak to our son inappropriately for their own loss and they face it all the time and they get beat up and they won't shut up and it is not helping the situation and we're taking over their spaceships and their seago and vessels submarines Jets and more they were going after their stashes and caches and we're going to take over their bunker systems as soon as the f***** get up there in the Eastern hemisphere they attacked and lost and the damage is now standing at 35% still and they are a huge pussies.
We need to take command of the operation yes and we need to control it and we need to start taking some percentages and keeping both of them out and wiping them out using it and depleting both and taking over that will work and we have decided to do it.
The two are proving it and he's having her stamp the approval and his children too and in-laws. They know about it and I proved it already but they're sending it down as the emperors decree and because mainly he sent it before it's a good idea because things are stalled out and nobody notices
We're going to also trash anybody that is treating our son badly and we're starting now we have several things to say you're cutting checks and you're not sending them so you're cooling off your area they noticed it too if you send the check they're going to try and stop it and you're going to toy around with it for this program we're going to use it as cover and a lot of it is coming there's about five of you that are saying to mail it because it's cooled off already and ironically when you mail that check we wanted to get through and you'll be the good guy and people don't like the good guy and I explained it to Olympus the max will attack and we need information we're going ahead with it now and it does work and we see it in movies and the checks get here one by one and people see what happened to Tommy f he got him $700 and then a little bit more and he got his ass kicked we're going to publish it's huge
Thor Freya
Olympus
Once again I'm working against myself and he's making farting out my mouth noises it says no I'm farting on my mouth but the noises are farting and it's true but he's saying it's not my mouth right now I'm not doing it he says but people say it because they're stupid and we're going to go ahead and try and let some money through it makes a lot of sense it fry them up and Tommy Africa fried he's doing a lot of other stuff that's Tommy f not Africa and it was really evil but people notice if you're doing something good for us and them no for him it really hits and so you know we might try that
Trump
We're going to go ahead and try and do that and Daniel is a big killer of our people and you notice that they don't do much against the empire at least we did something and it was a ruse and possibly was really bad but people were not doing a thing and they got encouraged now he might have a huge problem but the whole world has to address it it's Force and it's going on now we didn't do it on purpose trust us on that one
Terry c
We got to get out of this but boy that sounds like a good idea. I'm selling campers he doesn't sound that bad and he knows what I'm doing this is hell it was strange religion and we look like a little weird all the time but everyone is I'm selling a lot of campers today and that Coleman these compact one this really sounding like madness it's like 12 ft long weighs 1900 lb and it has everything in it it's a wonderful wonderful camper it's only about 11,000 something here it's really not much money for a camper you can't get one that cheap used our friend says he thinks around 20 ft and it's true but it had everything in it it was still $18,000 and his dad was choking on it and we had to help we saw it he was in trouble it wasn't with us and they're trying to grab him it was Max and it's a big mess and they just kept doing it and his clan may have taken over the fleet Lucy how and they're clever and they have been doing it for a long time and it would be a big move they planned and we looked at the Pink Floyd show and tried to see who he was and it's hard and usually it's not hard he says now I'm going to start selling campers I sold 40,000 yesterday and so far today I sold about smaller one the reason a 30,000 the reason it's not that many is because there's dealerships all over Florida and together we're selling probably 10 million of those today is a huge huge huge camper there are some like it that others make and they're looking at them but these you can drive with the medium or regular SUV we recommend the regular one and the medium one we recommend the trailer tent and the small ones there's a teeny one you can buy and it's just for sleeping but it works if you have an SUV you can put a stove in it and our friend says it's real simple you get a Coleman stove and you have it's like kerosene and every time you're done with it you empty out the gas tank it back into the storage tank that you buy as extra fuel and you leave the fuel tank open a little and let it dry and then you put it in the car and I've done that before and I know it really helps this is some great advice okay these things are not big and you can get the two burner one and they come with a stand and boy it makes a big difference it really does and keep in mind all the campgrounds have toilets you're much better off bringing a small folding e-bike or small e-bikes that you can put on your vehicle and because it's such a pain you poop in that dumb thing and it smells the whole thing up except for the new Coleman it's going to be this huge hit and we have to look at the code but really it is extraordinary how many people are buying it
Dave I've seen people style it too they put stickers on it they wrap it they change what color it is I mean you can't even tell what it is some people put off-road tires and it looks cool I mean these things are fun to play with and you can put a scooter off the back or a small dirt bike it's intense what's happening here okay this is working
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The whole place is moving and I heard the reasons the reason is that the max are invading and they probably should but we're going to try and invade anyways and we always get nails this is starting to suck
Trump
I guess we're going to try and get the money here whether we want to or not no we have to they're telling us why they're not letting us do it it's their program not ours and they're not going to let money go through so we can be the good guy
Daniel
It's actually true they're saying so much s*** nobody would try and stop the money and we're going we're going to go after them none of them have been mailed yet but they're running down there now and they're going to force it
Man daddy
There's a huge call for you to stop singing right now Chris
He says I'm the one doing it and it's true so I guess you can ignore it
Ken
Fag
Hera
Olympus
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hey!!! deimos here :)
i hope you're having amazing holidays!
first of all, id like to apologize for not being so active these past weeks. they've been way busier than i expected and i wish i'd had more time to chat with you. however i do hope we'll become friends even though we didn't talk as much as i expected :)
now, about your last response to my ask:
i loved back to the future! i've watched the three films but its been a few years since i've watched them, so i cant quite remember exactly what happens. (but i do remember i liked them a lot!)
i prefer icarly mainly because i watched it more than victorious when i was a kid (i dont really know why......i just know it was easier for me to watch icarly????????). my favourite icarly episodes are any episodes where spencer has tons of screen time. i really like those where they go to japan as well! and spencer is definitely my favourite character. spencer and gibby – they are THE best!
speaking of nostalgia, i've recently started playing club penguin again. i grew up playing it, got really sad when it ended and now i'm back at it (obviously not playing the original BUT its still cool)
it really was amazing. i'm curious for what's going to be the theme for next year's presentation. i think it's going to be an even nicer experience since i'll probably feel more confident :)
yes!!!!!!! make pluto a planet again!!!!!! pluto's been a planet for so long why not just let it be a planet??? it's not harming anyone!!!
lore olympus is really lovely. i hope you enjoy reading it! i don't think deimos appears at least for the parts i've read. who knows what happened after that?
again, i hope you've had/are having lovely holidays. i loved being your secret santa and i really really wish i'd had the time and energy to talk to you more often during this. but what's done is done and i really hope we'll keep chatting (you're so nice and interesting aaaaaaah!!!!!!)
have a great day :)
- lilly
hello, lilly/deimos! it’s nice to finally meet you!!! i apologize for the late response, as i’ve been busy with work and i also have a concerning tendency to stall before responding to people. so don’t even worry about giving late responses, as i completely understand how difficult it can be at times! with that being said, i hope you’ve had a wonderful holiday!
there’s this little quirk about bttf 2, which is most notably one of the most random subplots in cinematic history, where marty suddenly gets pissed off every time someone calls him ‘chicken’. it’s absolutely hilarious when you go back and watch that scene where he turns around and says, ‘nobody calls me chicken’ with a serious tone. where did this subplot come from? why is it pertinent for the movie to establish that marty doesn’t like to be referred to as a barnyard animal? i don’t know, but it’s funny as hell lmaoooo
spencer and gibby are the backbone of icarly, to be completely honest. spencer’s niche artistic expression paired in with his genuine passion for his little sister’s show is what makes him such a great character. and gibby’s eccentricities are also what makes the show so iconic even years after its final cancellation. (although, noah munck did admit that he began to feel exhausted by how fans of the show would constantly go up to him and ask him to pull off his shirt—the whole “gibbyyy” routine) it’s a shame that gibby’s anticipated spinoff show was cancelled before an official pilot was released. it would’ve been interesting to see how that character’s life would’ve progressed post-series finale. instead, we got ‘sam and cat’ ; a decent show that contained two of the most beloved characters on nickelodeon at that point in time, but a failed emulation of its predecessors
icarly tangent aside, that’s awesome that you reconnected with club penguin again! did you play any other online games that were popular at that time like petpet park, movie star planet, poptropica, ect.? (damn.. we had so many virtual games that catered to our demographic back then :( )
okay, if you receive any hints as to what’s going to be next year’s theme for your presentation, i’d love to know! it’s great to know that you’re gradually becoming more comfortable with performing in front of others!
YOU’RE RIGHT!!! pluto has never committed a single crime (besides being too short, i guess) this is a noble cause for short kings/queens worldwide : advocate for pluto’s validity as a planet!!! and hopefully, deimos makes at least a minor appearance in the most recent issues of lore olympus. he deserves more representation, poor chap :(
as i’ve said previously, don’t fret about not having sent enough asks during this event. i wholeheartedly enjoyed exchanging messages with you and hope to become good friends as we enter the new year! you’re very kind and interesting, and you’ve introduced me to media that was unfamiliar to me before. overall, you’re really cool and i anticipate that we continue to keep in touch here on tumblr :D
have an amazing day!!!
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KH 2 Playthrough pt2:
UGH nvm it’s not the scene. I have to fight Xigbar😔.
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Oh my gosh do I HATE fighting Xigbar. Just disappearing and stuff and like fricking shooting me. Gosh his finish move almost killed me, but thankfully I have the “At least 1 HP is left after a combo,” thing on bc if not I would’ve died.
I died once and I’m so glad I beat him the second time-
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THE SCENE!! IM AT THE SCENE😭😭.
Riku just leaving and Sora stopping him to say thanks….I bet it really hurt him-
AND THEN KAIRI REVEALING TO SORA THAT IT’S RIKU IN FRONT OF HIM!!
And then he falls to his knees and cries while holding Riku’s hand😭😭😭. Y’all I love this and I can’t wait to see Riku turn back into himself and be able to fight with him hnnng-
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Leveling up and stuff and I just remembered the “Final Form” exits for our drive gauge, and I finally got it because I don’t think I ever got it but I’m excited now :))). Gotta level this one up and master up too. I need those jumps so I can get all of my beloved puzzle pieces and beat the game-
I mainly got it by going to Olympus and doing the Cerberus cup (even if I already beat it)
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Leveled up my master form too and hehe I’m excited to beat the game again >:))).
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UGHH!! The card guy made me mad but I beat him on the first try >:)). But ALSO! I talked to Riku and he said,
“Humph. Not bad, Sora. You’ve grown stronger. You don’t need my weapon, Soul Eater, or the power of the dark yet.”
Jokes on him bc Sora already has some dark power within him
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Fighting Siax now and whenever he starts his little dusk attack, Riku grabs Kairi and covers her with him and they get pushed back. I bet they’re worried for Sora, but I found that moment between them so sweet🥺.
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The flashback of Riku looking at Roxas collapsed on the ground in TWTNW is showing after I beat Saix. I see Riku walk up to him and he has the keyblade up in his hand, position to be thrown down onto Roxas. Idk if it was truly meant to hit him, but we see Riku hesitate and throw it to the ground beside him. Ik its probably nothing but my mind was like
“Riku never truly wanted to hurt Roxas, but he wanted Sora to wake up, so he had to hurt him and use the darkness. But when it came to actually hurting him in this way, he couldn’t bring himself to do it. A part of Sora was in there and he couldn’t imagine hurting him anymore, and he didn’t want to hurt anyone any more.”
And then when it’s clear that he truly is Sora’s nobody, Riku gives into the dark just to wake sORA UP AAAAAH-
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“I have accepted it.”
DiZ shows up and Riku puts his hood on to avoid his gaze😭. He didn’t want anyone to look at him while he was this way-
“DiZ, he told me he could feel Sora.” (Riku)
“Oh, he told you how he “felt”, did he?” (DiZ)
“Ridiculous. A nobody cannot feel anything. If he had met Sora, things might have been different.”
AND THEN THE FLASHBACK ENDS AND RIKU’S LIKE, “Maybe I didn’t need to fight him after all. I think he left the organization because…he really wanted to meet you.”
Y’all I’m emotional over everything related to Roxas and Sora😭.
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NOOO.
“I wish I could meet him, too.” (Sora)
HNNNG SORAAAA!!! The poor boy is going through so many emotions.
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“The path is open. Demand is waiting up ahead. He’s the leader of Organizatjon XIII. Try not to slow me down, Sora.”
You know he’s been WAITING to say that little dig, even if he truly would do anything to help Sora-
Like tag a lightsaber hit to the side to stop it from killing Sora😭.
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“All my research amounted to nothing, compared with that one boy’s heart.” (DiZ about Sora)
YES OUR ONE BOY IS VERY SPECIAL AND AMAZING😭💙.
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DiZ admitting his ignorance is so good hnnng. I’m lost on the lore, but I love it when people admit they’re wrong and I love him roasting Xemnas.
ALSO! When the thing explodes, Riku dashes to everyone else and holds them back to protect them. Especially Sora. Sora runs to try to go to DiZ to help him or do something, but Riku stops him and GOSH I LOVE RIKU!!!
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“And just who were you trying to fool? Huh? Huhhh?” (Sora to Riku)
“Myself.” (Riku)
Y’all I’m losing it😭😭😭. And the way Sora looks so sad immediately after that.
“C’mon, man! Why did you try to do so much on your own? You got friends…like us!” And everyone smiles to him and it’s all so sweet because Sora is reminding Riku of his friends and how he is cared for-
And then Riku replies, “Have you forgotten? I’ll tell you why. ‘Cause I’m not a total sap like you.”
He just had to make a joke and slightly ruin the sweet moment😂.
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Sora seeing the heartless problem and immediately going, “What do we do, Riku?”
He has someone else to rely on now, and doesn’t have to only think by himself and he’s getting someone else’s opinion and plan….I love our boy😭.
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Okay that’s enough for one post so✌️.
#me playing kingdom hearts#me playing games#gosh I just LOVE TWTNW (The World that Never Was) bc of all the sad content#it’s wholesome but sad at the same time.
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Canon Questionnaire
What made you pick up this character?
Because I am a simp. /j
No it's mainly because I've been reading LO since almost the time it first came out on Webtoons. And in that reading and rereading and rerereading I found Hecate compelled me the most as a character and muse. She's this character who is ball of sheer chaos and mischief and yet is also one of the linchpins holding all the shit around her together. The fact that she's not afraid to call out her own king and boss on his behavior and still be there as his friend when he needs it most is just majorly admirable to me.
And really, just look at her
She got that major capital 'D' DRIP.
11. Are there some things you dislike about how the show/series/etc. portray the character you have picked up? If so, what?
I legitimately can't think of anything off the top of my head. Hecate is portrayed amazingly in LO. I really found it refreshing to find a version of her that isn't villainous or monstrous like a lot of her portrayals. Like she's not entirely good, her morality is very very gray, but she's not a full on villain.
19. Should people get into the franchise your writing from, yes or no?
YES. Absolutely fucking yes, I can never have enough people to talk about or write Lore Olympus muses with! This shit is my current hyperfixation and I want to share that with the world!
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What is wrong with lore/olympus?
so I got four anon asks about this in the past hour so I’ll just answer in one big post. also this is going to be long because I don’t feel like giving generalized blanket statements bc I actually want y’all to understand.
1. “what’s LoreOlympus?”
LoreOlympus is a webtoon based comic that revolves around the lives of the gods of the Greek pantheon, specifically Persephone and Hades. it’s set in the “modern” world with a few adjustments. it’s gorgeously illustrated, so it’s very intriguing and inticing to read. a few different Greek myths play out in the story (or are told), like the Cupid and Psyche myth, but the main myth is the Persephone/Hades ordeal......
2. “what’s wrong with it?”
the fact that it romanticizes the Persephone/Hades story. the Persephone story (specifically a myth revolving around her) has become an entire phenomenon online recently. young women (mainly) have begun identifying with the goddess for a variety of reasons, and many have begun creating NEW STORIES to justify this obsession. on the surface this is fine! why not love a Greek goddess? Greek goddesses are cool! the aesthetics are pretty! we all love Rick Riordan! but when you dig into it, there’s an underlying problem with this form of obsession.
Greek myths have always been a part of our pop culture. but often we don’t analyze the underlying stories of the myths. sure we talk about how Zeus is a dick to Hera, but we don’t talk about why Hera even exists. what the gods/goddesses actually represent, more than just their surface deity existence.
so take Persephone. sure you could say she’s the goddess of spring in a sense. she’s the daughter of Demeter. what else is she? the personification of a young girl. the same way Demeter is the Mother, Persephone is the Daughter. she was also known as Kore (directly translated: young girl) and what else were known as Kores? grave statues for girls who died before marriage. persephone is intended to be the embodiment of all young women stolen before maturement/being able to married off. one of the more famous statues’ inscriptions can be translated as “given this [being named Kore] instead of marriage by the gods.” so who is hades? he’s the god of death yes. the god of rebirth some might say in a sense. he also acts as an explanation of stolen brides. in Ancient Greece and now but whatever, young girls were often stolen by older men (sometimes related to them) to be married off. even more common was the simple handing off of young girls to older men/relatives as wives to create bonds within the family/carry on bloodlines, create children, etc.
so the Hades/Persephone myth exists not only as an explanation of the seasons of harvest, but also a cultural explanation of the lives/forceful marriages of young women/girls.
so that’s the ancient cultural context. now for our context. young women today, yesterday, since the beginning of time, have had no power. simply stated. they don’t. but who does? older men. so who do women turn to when they need power or when they feel powerless? older men! it only makes sense. and men know this, so when they feel like they need an ego boost or to hold power over someone, they turn to younger women. this is so widely accepted in our modern culture that we create falsities to justify it, like “girls mature faster than boys, so women seek out older men to meet their intellect.” and we have THOUSANDS of our own mythology backing this story of young woman + older man=love. books, movies, tv shows, anecdotes, famous people we idolize. so this story, a young girl who’s “seduced” by an older man, seems enticing!
but is that the story of Persephone and Hades? of course not. in what world would Ancient Greece give that much power to a 12 year old girl. Artemis barely had any power and she was a way more important deity. (that’s the other thing, Persephone ain’t shit but whatever). Persephone has no agency in “her” myth. the myth’s most famous form is in the Hymn to Demeter, where Persephone says one (1) thing and it’s her talking about how violent Hades was in forcing the pomegranate seeds into her mouth. (the story is Demeter’s, but we don’t care about older women or we hate them, so she’s been demonized in our modern retellings.) Persephone is not a powerful girl who runs away, she is stolen by her old uncle, r*ped, and forced into a marriage. after that’s her role, she does become the queen of the underworld in a sense, and she does gain agency in myths about her queendom, but the initial marriage to Hades? not of her own accord by any means. how could it be?
so of course I’m torn. I know why young women need these stories. I even like some of these stories—hello ACOMAF! hello Fifty Shades! hello Twilight! but am I okay with the fact that we keep sanitizing and romanticizing this original story? no! because a) if we keep romanticizing these Greek myths, we will never escape the racist and classist hold they have over us and b) we can’t keep perpetuating our own oppression. we can’t keep stripping away context from stories that shape our culture. we can’t ignore what this myth (and others like it) have done to young women and their psyches.
so stop reading it. stop reblogging those bullshit posts saying Persephone chose to eat the seeds. she didn’t and she deserves better.
also if you want to debate with me on this, just know I studied classics and media communications, and wrote my thesis on this topic. and I’m sick of it.
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Killer Queen - Chapter 10: Dreamers Ball
Summary: Life is easy when things go your way. I know this from experience. I also know that that can disappear in an instant and that you have to be able to rely on your friends. Luckily my name is Arabella Ruth White and I’m the fifth marauder. But I want to show you the girl behind the mask. It takes a lot of work to be this fabulous, darling. (This story is also on Wattpad and AO3 of the same name.)
A/N: So, I recently binge-read all of Lore Olympus on Webtoons and if you haven’t read it, then I highly recommend it. It’s about the Greek Gods (mainly Persephone and Hades) but it deals with some mature themes just to warn you. The chapter title comes from Queen’s 1978 album, Jazz.
Warning(s): alcohol, drugs, swearing, implied sex
Word Count: 4.3k+ (this was one word off of being 4400 words so that’s annoying)
Inspiration: random headcanons I found on Tumblr and Pinterest, The Boy Who Killed God by SeraMGrigori on AO3, All The Young Dudes by MsKingBean89 on AO3, Sweet Things by Cocomouse on AO3
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Throwing a birthday ball might just have been my best idea thus far, if I did say so myself, and it hadn’t even started yet. I was gradually walking through the doors of the Great Hall, embracing my dramatic entrance for every little millisecond that it was worth. All eyes were on me, as they should be since it was my birthday and I bloody love attention, and suddenly I understood what brides must feel like when they walk down the aisle. The train of my sparkling golden gown trailed along behind me, leaving a stream of glitter in my wake. It had been both a style choice and a way to infuriate Filch when he had to clean it up. Have fun with that, you miserable bastard. The Great Hall was decorated from top to bottom in gold, gold streamers, gold glitter, gold balloons. It was akin to the Emerald City from The Wizard Of Oz but, well, gold. Anyone who was anyone was among the crowd watching me, providing they were at least a fifth year; I didn’t want little kids at my birthday party, thank you very much. The only ones I would even consider would be Rhea and Luke, but they weren’t at Hogwarts yet and right now, I was grateful for that. As far as I could see, everyone had a glass of amber-coloured liquid in their hand, which I assumed was butterbeer for the far majority of people in the hall. Some minuscule part of me wanted to squirm under all of the attention, but I suppressed it as best as I could. I had a reputation to keep up, after all.
You may be wondering how on earth I got access to the Great Hall for my birthday party, and honestly, I can’t blame you for pondering such a thing. It had been a complete stroke of luck which had come in the form of good old Minnie McGee. I’d been explaining my plan for the ball to the lads during one breakfast back in September, yes my plans for it have been in the works for that long what are you going to do about it, and Minnie had overhead while she was walking past our usual spot. I’m quite sure she has some kind of hearing superpower, even though that particular sense should be decaying with her old age rather than growing. And just in case you’ve somehow found this, naturally, I mean no offence, Minerva, so please don’t give me another detention I really don’t want one please and thank you. She’d then gone on to offer the Great Hall for the party but with three conditions. One, she could go and bring Dumbledore as her ‘date’, two, we served nothing stronger than butterbeer and three, we actually worked hard for our OWLs which were just around the corner. Initially, we all thought that she was joking but it turned out that she was deadly serious (naturally Sirius had interrupted her with his classic pun) and that she was, in fact, rather looking forward to going to a party for the first time in a while. James had then asked if she was on drugs, because quite frankly this was one of the nicest things she had ever done for us, and she came very close to whacking him upside the head for even suggesting such a thing. But she never actually denied it, so I still secretly think she does weed. I don’t know about you, but I can most certainly see it.
Now, as you’d expect, I was rather disappointed at Minnie’s suggestion of a near total absence of alcohol, but it hadn’t been long before Sirius, always searching for an excuse to drink to the point where I often wondered if he was addicted, had suggested something quite marvellous: an afterparty. Such a seemingly straightforward idea quickly turned into something so much more. We decided to hold it later on in the night in the Room of Requirement, and only the elite people knew about it and, subsequently, invited. And by ‘elite’, I mean the male specimens I call friends, the females who I love and cherish and a couple of other people. And that was bound to be very much alcohol-fuelled. As long as I had that to look forward to, I could endure a much more age-appropriate evening, just not for too long.
Finally, I reached the platform where the teachers would usually sit during meals, and bear in mind that I had been milking the moment for way longer than necessary, so this did take some time. I cleared my throat for effect before speaking in an impossibly posh voice, “Thank you all for attending my ball this evening. I won’t talk for too long because I would hate to bore you to tears, I’ll leave that job to Professor Binns. Now, Minnie, don’t look at me like that, we all know it’s true. Look, even Dumbledore agrees with me and you can’t argue with Dumbledore. Moving on, I would like to say a couple of things so entertain me for a moment. One, if any of you are caught drinking anything stronger than butterbeer, then I will happily leave you to face the wrath of our dear Minerva on your own, I have no intention of arguing with any teacher tonight.” A few giggles rippled throughout the crowd as well as a few pouty faces from people who were doing a shockingly awful job at hiding mini bottles of firewhiskey behind their backs. It wasn’t my problem, I did say this on the invites I sent out, if they chose to go against that then they would deal with the consequences, not me. I continued, “Two, I hope you all enjoy yourselves tonight and remember, it ends at precisely eleven o’clock, which means don’t hang around. Frank and Alice, I’m looking at you.” The couple in question blushed furiously and Alice gave me a death stare that could rival the one I get from Remus when I gather enough courage to steal some of his chocolate. I then clapped twice to signal the official start of the ball and music began to blast from the speakers I’d linked up to my record player which was enchanted to start playing a record whenever I clapped my hands.
It took a second, but people were soon dancing and mingling and doing whatever else people do at parties. I made a beeline straight for the boys but ignored their greetings, instead, I grabbed two, I wasn’t sure which ones, and, hoping that they were all following if they weren’t being dragged, marched over to the drinks table. I let go of whoever I had been holding to pour myself a much-needed butterbeer, but in a wine glass because I’m classy like that, leaving two boys to rub their arms in pain.
“Bloody hell, Ruth, you could have just asked us to come with you, that really wasn’t necessary,” Remus muttered as he got his own drink.
“Why is your grip that damn strong?” James pouted, whining like the little child that he is.
Sirius just smirked evilly, “I think we all know where she gets her practice with her grip.”
Naturally, I wasn’t going to have that, so I swatted him on the arm as if he was a fly, but then I decided that that just wasn’t enough, so I kicked him in the shin. Not too hard because I was feeling nice for some strange reason, but you get the idea. He then howled suspiciously like a dog, causing us all to give him strange looks that pretty much read dude what the fuck.
Sirius, then desperate to change the subject to literally anything else, went on to ask, “Ruth, are Snivellus and his mates supposed to be here? Because I don’t have a problem with physically throwing them out,” he shrugged.
I sighed, knowing my response wasn’t going to be immensely popular amongst the group. I muttered quietly, refusing to meet anyone’s eyes, “I invited them.” As expected, I was met with outcries and protests from the cloud of testosterone surrounding me, such as but they’re such pricks and why would you want to infect your own party with the human equivalent of the goddamn plague, so I was quick to defend myself, “I didn’t want to! It’s just that Lily said that she wouldn’t go if I didn’t at least give Snivellus the option. But then I worried that he’d hang around Lily the whole time, and I wasn’t going to allow that, so I invited a couple of his friends too. I didn’t think they’d actually show up though,” I peered over Peter’s shoulder to observe him talking to Lily, grimacing at his choice of outfit if you could even call that monstrosity an outfit. I’d specified in the invites that you had to wear muggle ballgown-wear and you had to make it yourself using magic. I guess blood supremacists don’t even want to wear muggle-style clothes these days. They really are that shallow and it surprised me how Lily couldn’t see that.
Sirius huffed and made a comment that sounded like it should have come from James’s mouth instead of his, “Fine, but only because Lily is a treasure and I’m also terrified to death of her.” When he was met with blank stares for the second time in five minutes, he blushed furiously, only just clocking what he had just revealed.
I smirked at him, “Since when were you such good friends with my dear Lily?”
It was just a widely accepted fact that the girls weren’t huge fans of the boys, and while those attitudes weren’t reciprocated by the other side, it was practically unheard of for the girls to be anything more than civil with the boys. Well, only if you don’t count Lily and Remus’s strange friendship. I’d often promoted a union of sorts between my two friendship groups, holding out in my firm belief that some epic bonds could be formed if they just tried, but I was usually shot down with objections of but they’re arrogant toe rags. I think that that’s complete and utter bullshit but each to their own, I guess. I just carried on in the hope that one day they’d come round and see how silly they were being.
While James was appearing to have a mental breakdown right there and then, Sirius slowly explained, “Since a couple of weeks ago? I went down to the common room because I couldn’t sleep and I found Lily and she looked quite upset, so I asked her what was wrong, thinking she would just tell me to piss off or something, but she just burst into tears and she told me a lot of stuff that I won’t tell you because I think it’s private. Anyway, long story short, we had a rather profound conversation at two in the morning, followed by a couple of games of chess because neither of us wanted to go back to bed. We’ve had some rather thought-provoking conversations in Charms because we sit next to each other this year. She’s actually really cool.”
I grinned broadly at him, “This is what I’ve been trying to tell you for four whole years!” We then high-fived because why the fuck not. Remus gave us a look of wholehearted betrayal, which is understandable because he had been assisting me in my quest to get them to appreciate Lily properly, so I gave him a high-five too, and so did Sirius. Then Peter and James high-fived for no reason other than they were feeling left out, as they should be. So, we all looked like fucking crackheads already but that was to be expected of us.
“Anyway, just because Sniv is allowed to be here, doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to fight him the second he does something fucked up, right?” Sirius asked.
“You and I both know you’ll fuck him up regardless of whether I allow it or not, so yes, yes you can. In fact, please do.”
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By around midnight we were drunk off our asses in the Room of Requirement, the civilisation of the ball long gone. It was total carnage, although you probably worked that one out for yourself, but it wasn’t all bad seeing as my two friend groups don’t try to murder each other every five seconds when under the influence of my lovely friend alcohol. Most of us were sprawled out on various sofas, still in our ball attire, with Hunky Dory playing on my record player at a much lower volume because our drunk asses couldn’t deal with too much noise. I was lying on a sofa with my head in Marlene’s lap and my feet in Dorcas’s while James and Peter shared a sofa. Alice and Frank were, as I had predicted earlier on, making out in some darkened corner, thinking that they were being subtle because no one was gawping at them. In reality, the only reason we all refused to look was because they were being more than a bit gross and no one wanted to see that, to be frank. Pun absolutely intended. Dorcas didn’t drink because of her religion, which meant she was the only sober one in the room, and that meant it was her job to make sure we didn’t get ourselves killed or anything like that. Lily was actually a bit tipsy, but only due to Sirius’s incessant nagging that she was missing out on the finer things in life. I mean there were certainly finer things than knock-off elf wine we smuggled in from Hogsmeade, but Lily didn’t need to know that. Meanwhile, Sirius was stumbling on a table he’d conjured for this exact reason, wearing Marlene’s stiletto heels and ranting about society’s many problems as he usually did when drunk. Tonight’s topic was for discussion was feminism.
“But why is the world like this? We shouldn’t just accept it for how it is! Shouldn’t we try and change it or something?” he slurred, finishing his drink and promptly refilling it with his wand. Several amens could be heard from almost everyone in the room, as is what happened every time Sirius made a point. It was strongly reminiscent of the church service my mum would drag me along to from time to time.
“Sirius, not that I don’t agree with you, but maybe you should get down before you break your neck?” Lily suggested, looking at him in sheer terror.
He just pouted down at her, “I will only get down when the patriarchy falls, and you girls don’t have to live in fear of boys who have the audacity to call themselves men!”
“If a boy comes anywhere near me, I’ll just smack him round the face, I don’t give a shit,” I piped up, swinging my hand around as if I was actually punching someone, and coming very close to actually hitting Marlene in the face.
“That’s alright though because self-defence and shit,” James grinned at me, running over to clink his glass against mine, then running back to his sofa and sitting down as if nothing happened, leaving me confused, to say the least.
“Has anyone seen Remus?” Sirius suddenly changed the subject. When all he got in response was shrugs and confused looks, he started walking up and down the table like it was a catwalk, shouting, “Remus! Remus, where are you, you little shit? Remu-” he suddenly fell straight off of the table but stood up and brushed himself off as if he hadn’t just nearly died, “Reeeeeeemuuuuuuuus!”
“I think he’s with Idania. I don’t know where though,” Peter offered.
Marlene and I gave each other a knowing look and bumped arms, “I think we all know what they’re getting up to,” she raised an eyebrow at me suggestively.
“Ooooooh, Remus you saucy boy,” I snorted, making James cackle so much that he fell off of his chair and also making Lily fake-vomit so much that I was seriously expecting her to actually throw up right there and then.
I think it’s important to update you on the whole Idania-Remus situation. It’s been a tricky one, I won’t lie to you about that. They only started talking again a couple of days ago, making it nearly three weeks of silent treatment from both parties. Even I thought that that was a bit much, and we all know that I can be a dramatic little shit at the best of times. After copious amounts of persuasion from us, way more than would have been necessary if he wasn’t a stubborn bastard, a rather miserable Remus had finally apologised for some things he’d said in the heat of the argument that he hadn’t really meant. He didn’t disclose exactly what he’d said, but I have to be honest, I was just glad that he got over himself and talked to her because it was painful to sit behind them in History of Magic while they were being that damn ridiculous. Not only had he said that he was sorry, but he’d wanted to do something for her to show her how sorry he was. He’d done some research, which meant he’d spent twelve hours straight in the library. James, forever the mother hen of the group, was far from pleased to find out that he’d missed two whole meals, so naturally, that had led to him lecturing poor Remus on the importance of eating properly. He argued that that it doesn’t matter that it’s for love, you need to eat, for Merlin’s sake, which was saying something when you remember how James was a closeted romantic himself. He’d eventually found a spell that was a variant on the translation spells Peter was rather fond of for uncomplicated pranks. Usually with those spells, you speak whatever you mean to say in English, but when it comes out, everyone hears the language you’re cursed to speak. This one, however, worked with sign language; he would say what he wanted to say, and his hands would automatically sign what he’s saying. It didn’t solve everything, he still had to keep studying the language so he could understand Idania, but it was a sure start, and a massive help for the both of them. According to Remus when he’d returned to tell us how it went, she’d been so grateful that she’d almost started crying, though she denied it every time we asked her about it.
While I had been simultaneously amusing and horrifying my friends with mental images of Remus doing unholy things, Sirius had been on a mission to find him, and seemed to have returned triumphant. At some point, he must have left the room even though I had no memory of seeing him leave, as he was now dragging Remus behind him by the hand, who was dragging Idania somewhat gentler. “I found them!” he proclaimed with a stupid grin on his face, in a way similar to how a child would announce such a thing.
“Yeah, no shit Sherlock,” Peter muttered with no actual malice behind his words.
“You’re welcome, Pete,” Sirius bowed but then stumbled forwards, crashing headfirst onto the ground. He didn’t bother getting up, choosing to sit cross-legged on the floor once he got his bearings.
Lily plonked herself down next to him and gazed at him quizzically, “Why are you saying, ‘you’re welcome’, when you’re the one who wanted to know where they were?”
He covered her mouth with his hand to prevent her from speaking, “Shhh, Lily-flower, shhh.”
She scowled at him while Marlene mouthed ‘Lily-flower’ at me in confusion. I just shrugged, desperately trying not to laugh at James who was clearly dying of embarrassment while trying to hide from Lily. We once heard him murmur the nickname in his sleep during our second year, and even though he hasn’t said it since, we refused to let him forget it. Lily must have licked Sirius’s hand or something for he retracted his hand as quickly as he would if he’d had an electric shock, wiping it on his trousers while staring at her in disgust and betrayal. Lily didn’t show an inch of sympathy towards his pain.
“So, what were you two actually doing?” Dorcas asked, directing the conversation back to Idania and Remus.
Idania smirked evilly and looked up at Remus, looking awfully glad that she didn’t have to be the one to explain. I still thought they hooked up finally, but Remus didn’t look nearly as mortified as I imagined he would.
Remus opened his mouth to speak but Lily cut him off, “I can smell weed.”
“How the fuck do you of all people know what weed smells like?” I laughed.
She glared at me in a way that had me quaking in my heels, “Please, you know what Cokeworth’s like, so you can trust me when I say I know what weed smells like.” I had to give it to her, that town wasn’t exactly the poshest in the UK, and I would know seeing as I used to live in the damn place.
We locked eyes for a second, then slowly looked up at Remus and Idania’s slightly guilty but overall chilled-out faces.
Well shit.
Once it clicked in my head as to what they had been doing, I started giggling uncontrollably for a good minute, and everyone else started looking at me really worriedly. I can’t say I blamed them if I’m honest, I did look like something of a lunatic. I quickly put the spell that Remus had found on myself, suddenly feeling really bad that Idania probably didn’t have much of an idea of what had just been said.
“Idania, how dare you corrupt our sweet, innocent Remus?” I laughed, shaking my head like a disapproving parent.
“Excuse you, Remus hasn’t been innocent since before he met us,” James grinned lopsidedly.
“I wasn’t that innocent before I met you,” the boy in question tried to defend himself, only to be met with about seven people saying, ‘you were’.
“Anyway, that’s beside the point. The point is you smoked weed?” I asked incredulously.
“Don’t look at me like that!” he said, “It’s not that big of a deal, no one really cares about that kind of thing these days, well not in the muggle world at least. Live a little, Ruth.”
“That doesn’t make it any less weird that it’s coming from you, mate,” James shook his head.
“But here’s the question nobody else is brave enough to ask, apparently,” Marlene raised a finger and then pointed it at the couple, “Is it nice? And if so, may we have some?”
Most of us, excluding Dorcas and Lily, made some sort of noise of agreement to which Remus just laughed, “Well, it’s Idania’s, not mine, so it’s up to her really…” he trailed off, leaving his girlfriend to make up her mind.
I didn’t actually know much sign language, except for the odd word or phrase I’d picked up (naturally fuck off was on of them), but whatever Idania had signed in response put a devilish smirk on Remus’s face that was all too familiar, “I think that’s a yes, just not too much. Ida doesn’t think you’ll be able to handle it.” The girl in question lightly breathed through her nose, which I’d come to learn was her laugh.
I gaped at her with mock outrage on my face, “I am offended but at least I’ll get to try some, right?”
A couple of blunts went round during the next however long we were high for, while Lily and, to some extent, Dorcas looked on disapprovingly. I think it’s safe to say that the concept of time was non-existent for the rest of the night. I have to say it was one of the most relaxing yet insane experiences I’ve ever had, and it wasn’t long until long after it had worn off did I start to wonder how Idania had access to that kind of thing. She must have been even more of a badass than we first thought.
When I had first started holding parties like these last year, I had made an offer to Dorcas which had involved me making drinks that had no alcohol in them but still had the same effect. She’d been grateful for the suggestion, but she’d pointed out that doing that kind of defeats the whole point of not drinking alcohol in the first place. We’d then settled on making non-alcoholic drinks that still tasted like their alcoholic counterparts but had no effect whatsoever, and we were constantly trying different recipes. Word caught soon after we started, and our non-alcoholic drinks were in almost as high demand as the alcoholic black market I’d created with the boys. They proved to be popular among students who either didn’t want to or weren’t allowed to drink, but didn’t want to miss out on a party or something like that, as well as older students who needed a form of stress relief from their exams, but didn’t want to develop some kind of addiction. I couldn’t blame them, seeing as they used to drink a lot as a really unhealthy coping mechanism. I’d much rather they drink something else, so I was glad to have been of service. As you can imagine, the business really boomed around springtime.
“You know, trying to keep track of you all is like herding a load of cats,” she huffed, taking a sip of her not-quite-firewhiskey.
“Hey, Dorcas,” I mumbled in the most serious voice I could muster, which was quite the feat considering I was both drunk and high at that point. She leaned in to listen, only to hear me say, “Meow.”
Her brows furrowed sceptically, “Meow?”
I nodded, not breaking my composure though I desperately wanted to just dissolve into giggles like a child, “Meow. Because you said we’re cats.”
Dorcas sighed with a resigned look on her face,” Sure, Ari.”
A chorus of meows sounded throughout the room, much to Dorcas’s confusion and exasperation. I could only imagine what it must be like to have to deal with all of us unaided when we were like this.
A/N: By the way, I’m not trying to promote the use of drugs, personally I think things like marijuana should be decriminalised but that’s a story for another day. Just to remind you, this is set in 1975 at the moment, which means that drugs were more common, and more people did things like weed. It makes more sense when you consider the context. Also, they’re only human, shit like this happens.
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@rightwheretheyleftme I don’t think that’s a fair comparison, the story of the abduction of Persephone is 1 myth whereas Zeus has a dozen myths where he captures/assaults someone. It’s easier to overlook one story than several- I’d compare Zeus’ perception in mainstream media to Apollo’s, who also has many stories where he does sketchy shit but greek mythology fans tend to ignore them because he’s young and conventionally attractive (hope this didn’t come across as zeus or apollo slander 😭)
Hello, love!
I have a lot to say on this so I'm doing it this way because its easier for me to type it all out.
Personally I think it is a fair comparison mainly because Hades stans often use Hades as a way to shit on Zeus. They say Hades is nothing like Zeus despite the fact that if we're taking the myths literally, Hades kidnapped a likely 12 year old girl (people always seem to forget THAT part of the story) and possibly sexually assaulted her. There are also myths that show Hades isn't as faithful as everyone claims (its why we have the mint plant).
Yet despite these myths people often ROMANTICIZE Hades and his relationship with Persephone.
This proves that people are quite capable of looking at mythology as well as the gods in a different light. They just refuse to give that courtesy to anyone other than Hades. I mean even Demeter gets erased or villainized in HER OWN MYTH because people have this obsession with romanticizing Hades and Persephone.
I actually think Apollo isn't a fair comparison because I see Apollo getting shit WAY MORE than Hades. I mean just look at Lore Olympus. That proves right there how the public views Hades vs Apollo. And he isn't weaponized against Zeus or any god for that matter. Honestly the whole "ignore the myths because he's young and conventionally attractive" applies way more to Hades in that his stans have literally reimagined him to BE young and conventionally attractive to further the "He's so much better than his brothers" narrative. Again why does Hades get the "glow up" but no one else does?
Also its funny you bring up the the quantity of Zeus myths vs. Hades myths. The fact that there are so many stories about Zeus just shows how much the Ancient Greeks adored, respected, and were inspired by Zeus. Clearly there was less fear for Zeus than Hades and thats something that very often gets ignored/overlooked.
Lastly, I just want to add that ultimately taking the myths literally is not the best way to interpret mythology. So actually Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, and yes even Apollo did not actually do what was stated in those myths. Which is really the core of my frustration. I'm so sick and tired of people using mythology to justify their hatred for a god when there is so much more to look at! Not to mention, the fact that the purpose of mythology really wasn't to say "hey this is who the gods are and what they do". Especially Zeus' mythology which is all about legitimacy, power, and propaganda. I just wish people gave Zeus the same kind of understanding and courtesy they give to Hades so they can see all that.
Thank you for adding to the discussion and offering your thoughts on the matter! I appreciate it and I hope this doesn't come across any other way than me just respectfully sharing my thoughts!
Recently I was talking about mythology with a friend and Zeus happened to come up, as usual due to the myths depicting him in a bad light, she doesn't have the best opinion of him and I remembered seeing somewhere here on Tumblr, a post that talks about him kinda tragically as to why he had to have all his children and something about him being able to see the future. My question is, do you know of the post or a similar one, so I can show my friend?
Hello, love!
I think the post you’re referring to is actually one of mine. I unfortunately can’t find that particular one however I can summarize my point here for you to show to your friend.
So most people often forget or don’t realize that Zeus is leader of the fates meaning he can not only see Fate but it’s HIS job as supreme leader to execute Fate’s plan. This can be seen in action in The Iliad when Zeus knows exactly how the dominoes need to fall (Hector kills Patroclus, Achilles kills Hector). The Iliad also shows how tragic this role is for Zeus. He knows his beloved son will be killed during Fate’s plan and despite all his power he can not intervene to save his child. Firstly because as I said it’s his job to execute Fate’s plan and failure to do so would result in the entire world order collapsing. Secondly, as Hera reminds him, he has to lead by example. If he saves his child then the other gods would see that as permission to do the same, once again leading to the destruction of Fate’s plan and our world order.
With that all in mind let’s talk about Zeus and his many children. To be a child of Zeus automatically means you are destined for greatness. All of Zeus’ children have impacted and changed their world significantly. They are heroes. They are rulers. They are leaders. They are legends. So clearly these children must play an essential role in Fate’s plan, right? And who again can see Fate’s plan and is shouldered with the burden to execute it? Zeus. Those children NEED to be born in order for Fate to play out the way it’s supposed to. So it really isn’t about Zeus being a cheater or a predator or not able to keep it in his pants. It’s him fulfilling his duty as the Leader of the Fates AND our King. He’s sacrificing himself to keep the world in balance for US.
It is tragic. Especially considering how he continuously gets treated by the majority of people. He sacrifices all of himself just to at best be a constant joke or at worst to be seen as predator. It honestly breaks my heart but also enrages me especially when I see how they treat Hades (not saying Hades doesn’t deserve love, just not a fan of the double standard). Like you can rework, reimagine, and excuse away everything unsavory about Hades and even give him a full glow up but Zeus can’t even get a teaspoon of that shit? Uh huh okay 🙄
I guess that’s just part of the job, huh? Heavy is the head that wears the crown after all. But I’ll never stop defending my Divine Father.
I hope this helps open your friend’s mind up about Zeus.
#zeus vs hades#zeusdeity#zeus deity#hadesdeity#hades deity#hades#big poppa#hades and persephone#thoughts on mythology
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LO RANT:
This will be short but I just absolutely love it when LO stans prove my points it’s so refreshing and satisfying for me. Mainly because I’m a sore loser and dread the feeling of being wrong (this is actually true although not in the way you’re thinking, don’t get me wrong I hate being wrong but I’m not the type to double down or insult or anything, I’ll take it and learn from it. Will I be embarrassed? Yes, will I beat myself up about it? Yes, but I’ll get over it. Most I’ll do is laugh in shock or cry in my corner) but also because it’s just so interesting to see honestly. What I mean by this is that a lot of the stans are only here for the imaginary sex scenes that we’ll never get, mainly because it’s on webtoon and the app has access to all which is why I’m always confused that they try and make it seem like webtoon is just this unheard of and adult app.
Like I’m not even being funny right now I’m pretty sure a lot of fans found this shit in middle school, maybe even lower than that so I’m not understanding why whenever we bring up the younger fans the older ones get so upset. Yes Carol, it would not look good if Rachel decided to draw full on NSFW in one of her chapters without putting into consideration the age range of her fans. But it is worrying how badly they want to watch each and every panel of how Persephone and Hades screw around, like they literally need those drawings at this point.
Speaking of the fans’ need for sexual activity, it quite literally seems to be the only thing they’re there for. Every single time I blink there’s another person commenting on how they want to see Persephone getting “pounded” or how “they want to see them fuck each other” or even more descriptive language to describe their insatiable appetite for literal porn. They don’t care for the failing storyline, plot holes, bad pacing, terrible art, mischaracterizations, and even bad character design because they will continue to eat up every single mediocre chapter LO pushes out while begging and pleading for NSFW every other episode. It’s really annoying because not everyone wants to see that shit, never in my years of reading Lore Olympus did I ever display joy or even intrigue about Persephone and Hades doing it and I’m sure there’s a bunch of other people that agree with me, I don’t give a shit if the stans get mad at me for saying this but it’s not just you in this fandom and your opinion isn’t the only one that matters.
Crazy thing is that Lore Olympus fans have been disappointed and frustrated with the lack of actual story since the stans that want sex over story scream the loudest for it. You wonder why the wedding was so rushed I’m sure those stans wanted it to be done and over with just so they could see Persephone in lingerie and Hades with another boner, they’re only here for the “spice” yet their requests are the ones implemented into the story the most. No one wants sex like they do, we don’t want fluff, we don’t want flirting, and we sure as hell didn’t want a wedding. We wanted to see a loving and passionate relationship, one that Rachel herself said that she wanted to create yet we literally get no chemistry or romance between these two that isn’t manufactured and forced. I’m tired of the perfect love story why can’t we just have a love story between the gods? If you’re not going to make it a horror retelling at least make it a bearable romantic one.
But honestly I can’t blame it all on the stans since Rachel seems to be pushing towards only wanting to make sex and fluff between them. That’s all you could really look forward to since you can’t even tell me what the real plot of this story or the message is, it’s all been lost years ago and this comic has been going on for 6 years now. There’s been no progress and nothing exciting being brought to this story for the last two seasons so really the spice is the only interesting part of Lore Olympus as a whole and it’s sad. Instead of doing fan service to the minority in your fandom you could actually salvage whatever remains of your comic by listening to your actual fans who are here for you and your work which is your story, not your ability to draw genitals.
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Oh ok the webtoon is a modernised greek mythology its mainly about the tale of the greek god hedas of the underworld and Persephone goddess of spring and how she ends up failing for him its really cute and it also talks about other tales too its called lore Olympus -💜💙
Oooo yes I love that myth I’ll def check it out thanksssss
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Rules: Answer 30 questions and tag 20 blogs you would like to get to know better
I was tagged by @gingerkoalabear and at first I wasn’t going to do it, but then I realized...you guys literally know nothing about me.
I wanted to do this so that I seem less like an omnipotent and occasionally petty writing entity, which the other writing blogs around here seem to be, and more like an approachable person.
1. What’s your name?
Madelyn Rose
2. What’s your gender?
Female
3.Where’s your family from?
We’re flaming Italians. Flaming.
4. Do you have any pets?
Yes; A bearded dragon named Gizmo
and a cat named Carly, whom I don’t have a good picture of on my computer other than this:
5. What’s your favorite book?
Six of Crows by Leigh Bardugo
6. What book(s) have impacted you the most?
Probably the Percy Jackson series. While most people grew up reading Harry Potter, I grew up reading Percy Jackson and the Heroes of Olympus. Those books were the ones that got me into reading, which eventually led to me writing.
7. How long is your WIP?
Hovering around 485 pages, fluctuating as I do the final edit
8. How long have you been working on your WIP?
Three. Goddamn. Years.
9. What time do you expect to be done with your WIP?
Hopefully by the end of the school year.
10. Who/What inspired you to start writing?
My third grade teacher. I wrote this story during Black History Month about a horse that helps Harriet Tubman on the underground railroad (yeah, I was the horse girl fml), and despite the fact that it was good writing for an eight year old but very shitty writing for everyone else, he treated it like I was the next J.K. Rowling. He made me type it up and write it out in a little book from Michael’s so he could read it to the class, and I feel that if he hadn’t done that I wouldn’t be writing today.
11. Do you have any other hobbies besides writing?
Yes, I read and also draw, mainly in charcoal
12. What time do you usually go to sleep?
11:00 pm
13. How does writing affect you as a person?
I’m a hermit. Please help.
14. What usually distracts you from writing?
Youtube. I go to pull up my “For Writing” playlist but then I get sidetracked by the “suggested” feed
15. What’s your favorite subject in school?
Surprisingly, not English. It’s Chemistry. I’m pretty sure my teacher is literally God.
16. Are there any characters based off of real people in your life?
Yes, but there’s not just one person.One of my characters in articular a mish-mash of a few people I know, all combined into one.
17. What’s your favorite part of your WIP?
Andrew’s first rain. It’s just so pure and lighthearted compared to all of the darkness in the rest of the book, and I pop in my earbuds and put on the “Thunder storm 10 hours” vid so I can just write to the calming sound of the rain.
18. What books/TV shows inspired parts of your WIP?
Definitely Supernatural and a book called Hush, Hush, both of which first exposed me to angelic lore and got me wondering if I could write a book on that by my own.
19. What’s your favorite part about Tumblr?
The communities you can participate in and the people you can meet. Heck, I made really good friends with people from this site, people I never would’ve met otherwise.
20. What’s your least favorite part about Tumblr?
Discourse.
21. Do you like poetry?
No.
22. How many followers does this blog have?
5,797
23. What’s your favorite part about being a writer?
Creating my own world, characters, and story. I’m a slut for that shit.
24. What’s your least favorite part about being a writer?
Actually writing.
25. What time do you wake up every morning?
6:30 am on weekdays, 10:00 am on weekends
26. Whose your favorite character in your WIP?
Andrew definitely, but Ashton is a close second.
27. Which character was the hardest to develop?
Ashton. Probably the reason why I like him so much. He went through two personality changes, at least five backstory changes, and one major appearance change.
28. Are there any characters you wish you could develop more?
Dante. I think he’s such an interesting character, both as a father figure and as a leader, and perhaps one day I’ll write a spinoff for him simply for my own self-satisfaction.
29. Do you think you followed the directions of this post thing right?
Absolutely not. It’s simple, but I always find a way to fuck things up.
30. Do you have anything to say to your followers?
Yes! I love you all so much and I think you’re great!!!!
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