#also to me it doesn't imply that she thought that grogu thought that she wasn't a mandalorian or something??

[ragnarssons]

crazy how some people are so quick to judge that they just skip the concept of yknow... characters’ perspective. “did you think your dad was the only mandalorian?” doesn’t speak as much about grogu as it speaks about bo katan. bo katan doesn’t know that grogu has met boba fett (and actually she doesn’t consider him a mandalorian, so?), bo katan doesn’t know that din has still contact with other mandalorians from his group (does she even know whether or not the children of the watch even survived the purge?). i’m pretty sure the point is also to imply that bo katan has no idea how the children of the watch are today, how big the whole group is right now, and how they’ve actually survived all these years. it’s the whole point: to show how SCATTERED the mandalorians are. how even, yknow, “the ruler of mandalore” doesn’t know her people as of today.

[trashquisitor-shirozora]

I think you bring up a fantastic point about the lack of context that Ahsoka provides to its audience, despite being marketed as entry level, despite Filoni saying not to bother watching Clone Wars or Rebels, despite them saying they're making a new story that doesn't rely on anything else. I was one of two sacrificial lambs who watched it, so the remainder of the group wouldn't have to, and the other lamb had never watched any Clone Wars or Rebels, and therefore was really fucking confused what was going on, and kept having to stop to get stuff explained, cuz the show sure as hell wasn't going to.

It's sadly a continuation on the precedent that Favloni with reuniting Grogu and Din in BOBF. Especially since this is all just lead up for Dave's little Heir to the Empire pet project, he's going to be needing to yank a lot of characters out of their normal characterization (Thrawn is the most obvious example for this) which is easier when the audience doesn't have preconceived notions of what that characterization looks like from previous shows.

I'm half "yeah, I remember reading Filoni saying that" and half "wait, did he really say that?" and I don't know what to say now that the first two episodes dropped. Imo, while TFA relied a little too hard on nostalgia it was able to ride on cultural osmosis and also did a halfway decent job introducing us to Rey, Finn, and Poe. The movie gave us enough of a glimpse into each of their backstories and what life was like before the inciting incident on Jakku to help us understand, relate to, and connect with the characters. I didn't get that with Ahsoka. If I didn't already have working knowledge of who Hera and Sabine were, I wouldn't know what the fuck to do with them because they weren't introduced in a way that gave me an idea of their relationships with each other, with Ahsoka, with Lothal, with Ezra, with the Rebellion.

It wouldn't have been that hard to do it. When that ceremony was happening in Lothal with the mural, we could've gotten a really condensed and maybe extremely embellished summary of Rebels that culminated in the Battle of Lothal and whatever the fuck Ezra did with Thrawn and the space whales. When we actually meet Sabine, we could've gotten some useful information out of her banter with the pilots; she could've mocked Ryder's speeches, quoting almost verbatim what he said to imply that she's heard his shit before many many many many many times, and said she was too fucking tired and Done to go through yet another ceremony/commemoriation/speech. I don't know shit about fuck about Ryder Azadi (I had to google his name because I don't remember if it was mentioned anywhere but that's auditory processing shenanigans for you) so I don't know if that's in-character for him so if it's not, give that assignment to some new face. Or have us briefly shadow a New Republic visitor who isn't too familiar with what happened at Lothal and asks for a summary from a local. I don't know, just do something to give unfamiliar viewers some fucking context for why we're on Lothal and why Sabine matters.

This goddamn assumption that everyone tuning into Ahsoka somehow already knows all about TCW and Rebels because they either already watched all of that or had to the time, energy, and fucks to give to watch them after Ahsoka debuted in the Mando Show is goddamn arrogant imo. I have a lot of other thoughts about this particular sticking point but this isn't the place. I'm real happy for the people who did watch the other two shows and enjoyed them and had a great time and all that, but I wasn't that audience and I'm not in the position right now to try to join in. I'm just watching along and taking notes.