#also saying all this knowing u are a Laurance hater
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little-laurance ยท 11 months ago
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hi it is me owner of confessmau. im here to make a confession to you.
honestly i assumed the post being referenced was kim is an enabler pt 2 from the aphverse-confessions account. it's like 5 or so paragraphs dragging kim specifically for the zane shit and it's the only confession ive seen that does anything close to openly demonizing kim. i vagued it in the tags bc i also wrote kim is an enabler pt 2.
in retrospect it prolly wasn't refrencing my post since im not a laur/dante/travis stan (its hard to tell the confession is like 90% strawmen) so apologies for any grief! you are very slay i adore your writings!!
@confessmau To be completely honest with you, it could be either of our posts on the topic. I feel fairly confident that the person who sent in that confession had already vagued me in a previous post regarding their adoration for Kim and the misogyny in all Kim haters. However it is entirely possible it was the enabler Kim pt 2 post that they were referencing in their confession. Could have been (most likely) both.
Either way I think my points still stand. No need to apologize for grief!! I posted my initial Kim post and I assumed the confession was about me! I'm no innocent party in the Kim Wars (TM).
I only wish that people leave the confessor alone. It's very clear to me that they are just upset about seemingly needless slander for a character they just can't understand people hating. I think they are going about this in the wrong way, but I don't think they are deserving of hate or anything akin to it.
This fandom needs to start getting comfortable with people having different opinions and interpretations of characters. It's frustrating to have to say this to the confessor since they have rather hypocritically accused Laurance stans of blowing up at the mention of disliking him while blowong up at the idea of ppl hating Kim. But I digress. We as a fandom really need to let go of our 8-12 year old angry selfs and just learn to get along. We all love these shitty characters in half-assed stories. Let's focus on what we have in common.
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little-laurance ยท 11 months ago
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Bro I know ur talking abt me ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€
Anyway, in case anyone needs to know, I literally don't hate Kim. I feel like mildly annoyed by her presence at worst. I made a post explaining reasons I have seen ppl hate on her. And really, no where have I demonized her?
Every reason I gave had to do with her redundancy in the cast, poor introduction, and lack of character outside of her possession. This confession is acting like I called her a terrible bitch. The only comment I made referencing her personality/actions was abt her dismissal of ghost's assault on Zane and self-focus during ghost's Zane outbursts. And tbf that is a trait shared between EVERYONE at the lodge so maybe it was unfair to call her out for it specifically, but it was a post abt why ppl didn't like Kim ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ I never acted like she was unredeemable monster? I listed a few blunt points that were issues ppl had with her.
Also, your generalizations of "Kim haters" are broad and unmoving. Someone insulted a character u love and ur upset with that, which is fine obvi we've all been there we all get it. But you can't go cry misogyny because someone dislikes a female character u like. To act as if every "Kim hater" is just a misogynistic freak who demonizes all of Aph's frmale characters and falls over backwards for her dudes is both ridiculous and immature.
I like a lot of Aph's male characters, I'm not gonna deny that, but I'm also not gonna sit here and act like they were super cool flawless guys in canon. I am well aware of the fucked up behavior from the guys in Aphmau's series. In complete fairness, Kim was introduced around the time I lost interest in the series when I was younger, so I don't have a childhood idealized version of her that I love (tho Melissa is still a fav of mine), unlike most of the other Aphmau characters I adore.
And I don't adore Aph's version of the characters. I like what I have invented for them in my head. I just don't find anything in Kim to latch onto. Kim's a victim of bad writing, unfortunately her breed of bad writing made her uninteresting to me.
Now listen man. I don't think you can come in screaming abt how misogynistic it is to dislike a female character you like (which like, geniunely good for you. I'm glad she gave u smth to appreciate) while ur favs appear to be Dante and Travis. I love Dante and Travis as well, but we cannot sit here and pretend they are not two of the most egregious examples of casual misogyny in Aph's series (along with Laurance, we both know that). But you and me, we look past that because we see the POTENTIAL if they weren't written like shitheads.
I just don't see strong potential with Kim. That's all it is. I never got a strong read on her as a character, so I never made a glamorized version in my head for her and she never really mattered to me. I had no idea she had such a strong fanbase, and I am being completely geniune when I say I would LOVE to understand why. I want to know why people like her.
I grew up as a CRAZY Aaron hater. Re-entering the fandom as an adult I still didn't like him much. But I have since had my mind changed. There are a lot of people raving on and on abt their ideal Aaron and how cool he could be if he had kept certain traits or expierenced some different events. And they have geniunely changed my mind. There is a version of Aaron in my head I really like, cuz people were able to show me why they valued his potential. I would love to have that same expierence with Kim.
Fandom discourse and character wars aren't worth it to me. I don't want to hate any character or ship. I don't have the time nor the energy for it. If you ever think I hate a character, you're wrong.
no no go on explain how u think kim is terrible and irredeemable and the worst character ever. and ur favorite characters are laurance or dante or travis or whatever. uh huh. go ahead and explain no i really wanna hear why the only characters u demonize to hell and back are women but u love all the shitty male characters who do FAR worse things and are written WAY worse. go ahead tell me. id love to hear how u definitely arent misogynistic at all and how kim is actually just horrible and the worst bc of bad writing but every male character is awesome and cool despite bad writing
(putting this here so theres more reach bc im so ๐Ÿ’” also this is directed at kim haters not just Everyone In General)
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