#also law still exists right when people suing shinra in advent children?

[fauzhee10069]

Not challenge your opinion or anything, but I want to make my point clearer as maybe you misunderstood because what I wrote was also unclear (sorry for this part).

It’s not about Cloud and Tifa have to get ‘legally’ married in order for their conflict to sound 'valid' and make sense. Forget about the post-apocalypse, we may even be living in a different culture and belief.

Let’s say, between me and otp-oasis-heavenxearth as audiences, we may be projecting ourself to Tifa.

otp-oasis-heavenxearth as a married wife with her ups and downs marriage, is projecting to Tifa.

I, a single woman still looking for potential mate (with several relationship failures in history including some toxicity and abuse), am projecting to Tifa.

And that’s how otp-oasis-heavenxearth can appreciate the struggle of Tifa to mend her relationship with Cloud as much as possible .

But in my POV, Tifa could potentially waste her life for that as I care to her character and think that she deserves better than this.

Still, neither of us are actually Tifa.

And it's up to the writer to tell what path Tifa will take.

I hope you don't misunderstand me again, that I don't intend to dictate Nojima about what he should write… or that he sucks, or that he’s wrong.

And canon is ‘canon’, and I (am a mere audience) have to just accept it.

I'm not saying that otp-oasis-heavenxearth who likes cloti is wrong, liking cloti in general is never wrong.

But I also can't lie to myself that I can't truly enjoy the story of cloti.

And this is why our opinions differ, because we live different lives.

As audience, we have the right to rate, but not the right to demand a change.

And if you really think that Nojima is brilliant in depicting how the couple works during post-apocalypse setting, then fine, that’s your rating.

But have we… okay, it is just me perhaps… have I ever really lived in such a setting? Never (although riots have happened a few times at my place, but that's another story), perhaps that’s why it is very difficult for me to be related to them (cloti).

So, when we may not have to be legally married in this setting (yet there is still lawsuit in AC as far as I remember), does experiencing 'broken heart', 'breakup', 'affair', 'divorce', 'moving on' also become impossible in this kind of post-apocalyptic life?

Or does ‘sticking together’ become obligation in this kind of setting?

I’m skimming Case of Tifa again…

I like that it mentions one of Tifa’s motivations for joining Avalanche really was revenge, plain and simple. I’m also surprised how much of it is just, showing how much Cloud’s and Tifa’s relationship does not work.

The novel starts after its end, the rest of it is told through flashback, Cloud has been gone, and Tifa has absolutely no idea where he is, he hasn’t contacted her at all. She knows he’s still alive just because she has heard from other people who have seen him. (““I wonder where Cloud is.” Tifa didn’t know and put her hand on her neck. Cloud was in Midgar somewhere. She imagined how the worst could have happened as he was caught in an accident where he went to work or he was being attacked by some monster. But she soon found out that he was still out there on jobs. There were people who had seen him. He just left the house, that’s all. Tifa was trying to convince the children that there were no problems, but she lost her composure and the children soon realized something was wrong.”)

Tifa gets mad when Cloud wants to be alone. (“Cloud was drinking alcohol even though he rarely did. He drained his glass. Tifa thought about it before going over and filling his glass. “Shall I join you?” There was something she wanted to talk to him about. “I want to drink alone.” Hearing that, Tifa lost control and said, “Then drink in your room.”)

Marlene notices Tifa and Cloud aren’t getting along… (“As Marlene wondered if Tifa was listening or not, she told Barret in a sad voice, “Cloud and Tifa aren’t getting along very well.”)

Even though Tifa makes an effort to hide it from Marlene and forces herself to talk to Cloud. (“Tifa forced herself to talk to Cloud. When Marlene was near, she would pick something positive, something that wouldn’t turn the conversation into a serious matter.”)

This deserves repeating, Tifa, forces herself to talk to Cloud!

Cloud doesn’t answer at all when Tifa asks about him feeling like the family they have in 7th heaven “isn’t enough”. (““Even though we’ve been together for some time?” “Maybe that just isn’t enough.” “Even we aren’t enough for you?” Cloud didn’t answer. “Sorry for asking some strange things.” “Don’t apologize. It’s my problem.” Cloud closed his eyes. “Let’s work hard together.” Tifa waited for his answer, though she couldn’t hear it even if she waited until the morning.”)

Cloud went to Aerith’s church and assumed Tifa would be mad, so he hid it from her. (“Cloud was making a face like a kid who thought he would get scolded. “Tell me. I’ll decide whether I’m angry or not after I listen.” Cloud nodded and continued. “Denzel had collapsed in front of Aerith’s church. That’s why I thought Aerith lead him to me.” Saying all that in one breath, Cloud looked away. “You went to the church.” “I didn’t intend to hide it from you.” “You did hide it.” “I’m sorry.”)

Cloud was also embarrassed to tell Tifa that he thinks Aerith brought Denzel to him. To which Tifa says Aerith brought Denzel to their home.

Cloud leaves 7th heaven/their home after this conversation.

Reader and Tifa are left wondering was Cloud’s smile to Tifa fake. (“Aerith brought Denzel to our home.” Cloud gazed at Tifa and finally smiled. Days after having that conversation, Cloud left. Tifa wondered if that smile he showed her was an illusion.”)

..Sorry this is a long post, but I just find it sad and love triangle kind of funny after reading this, it’s pretty ship sinking in my opinion.