#also genuinely not sure where the idea that i prefer jvj/am biased against javert is coming from? i really like both of their characters
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If you actually believe suicide is punishable by eternal damnation and that applies to Javert as well, you must invariably also apply this logic to Valjean, who starved himself to death. A passive suicide is still suicide; it doesn’t stop being so just because you prefer one character to another. To pretend like Valjean didn’t commit suicide and goes to heaven but that Javert must go to hell is just outright incorrect and biased on every level. They either both went to heaven or both went to hell, but you can’t have it two different ways.
Hey thanks for the ask /gen!
I don't believe suicide sends you to hell. I've been pretty careful to specify that *Catholic doctrine in the past* (as I'm not aware of their current position) has taught that suicide is a mortal sin (you can even see this attitude in Hamlet, in which the characters are Catholic), but I am not Catholic, nor do I believe that doctrine was ever true.
Your salvation is not gained or lost by your virtue or sin. Salvation is given by God: "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, so that no man can boast" (Ephesians 2:8-9).
Narratively, how this applies to Valjean vs. Javert is that Valjean accepts his salvation and the mercy shown to him, while Javert, because of his pride and shame (among other reasons) rejects it and instead commits suicide. Neither of them "deserved" a second chance, but both of them were offered it; Valjean took it, and Javert did not.
God will not force you into heaven, but He does make the Way (through faith in Christ) available to everyone. The tragedy of Javert is that he is unwilling to accept that God's path is not the path he thought it was, and instead of living a new life in light of this truth, he ends his life in rejection of it. And in doing so, he condemns himself, when mercy was right in front of him--as so many choose to do.
#also genuinely not sure where the idea that i prefer jvj/am biased against javert is coming from? i really like both of their characters#i don't think hugo intended javert to be redeemed by the narrative and there are many reasons for that (especially given his symbolic role)#but that doesn't mean i hate him and think he 'deserved what he got' or anything lol. he's fascinating and flawed and i love him#les miserables#javert#les mis#inspector javert#meta#my meta posts#my christianity#also yes i am definitely a christian and that comes up a lot in my discussion of les mis as it is a very christian work!#if anyone is curious about more of my views on things like how the characters understand faith i would LOVE to infodump about that#bc jvj AND javert both have a messed up version of faith/religion in their minds but i think the story does critique this#anyways all that to say esp with an ask like this that directly touches on faith/doctrinal issues i'm gonna get pretty in the weeds with it#just wanted to give a heads-up#kay is a classical literature nerd#kay has a party in the tags#responses aka the ramblings of my brain#kay can i just catch my breath for a second#and ALSO also of course there's more than just religious symbolism in javert's suicide. i'm just focusing on that angle bc of the ask
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