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#disco elysium#harry du bois#kim kitsuragi#kuuno de ruyter#also cunoesse in the back#based on a painting by denis sarazhin#idk how i feel abt this I never do backgrounds for a reason but i've been looking at this too long i need to get rid of itkshdlfj
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Man, I'm gonna be honest. I played the two partnered endings back to back to see the differences and I like the detective kuuno ending more than the one where we recruit kim! Its just much more fulfilling emotionally!!!!
Kim is overall very serious and composed about stuff and hes well respected by the other cops. When you get to keep your job and recruit him it DOES feel good!! Because it was smooth and really cool of him to defend you like that and you've gotten yourself a friend! a friend who truly trusts you and believes in you. Kim is the nicest and most patient man on planet earth.
But Cuno??? It's a different message. Cuno knows fuckall. Nobody there respects him and he doesnt have the measured responses and fancy words kim has, just pure utter PASSION. He almost cries of RAGE when people dont listen to him when you're trying to convince everybody about the Phasmid. Jean specifically is a cunt to Cuno and spaces out all the time and doesnt listen to anything he says ("you're hearing, but you're not listening"). Nobody believes him. Nobody takes him seriously. He's used to that, i bet.
During the islet section, Cuno is A LOT like Harry. having him around as your partner isnt like having kim at all. he doesnt help with cop stuff or adult stuff. rather, he says your lines for you. i just played the one with kim and CUNO SAYS WHAT YOU WOULD SAY IF YOU WERE WITH KIM. he has the same thought processes as You do. he asks questions just like you do. he acts a bit like you do. he makes comments you would sometimes. He literally says YOUR lines in his runs. and hes impulsive and a child, so he asks it willy nilly. you have to be the responsible one now, you need to hold him back if anything.
And then the way cuno literally BEGS the officers to let him join? to take him away from martinaise, to give him a better chance at life. Hell do anything, he promises to stop saying shit, he promises to behave. Just get him OUT of there. It feels like there are WAY more stakes, so the emotional payoff is MUCH higher
(If you like cuno of course. Which i do. theres a LOT to unpack regarding that boy.)
Like, seeing him EXCITEDLY skipping to the coupris kineema and opening the door to the other cops?? It feels good!!!! It feels really good! Like on top of everything you did, you also got to take this kid out of that shithole, to give him a chance.
You Must Understand.
Cuno mirrors Harry in MANY ways.
Nobody respects Harry, nobody respects cuno either. Harrys just some insane alcoholic, cunos just a delinquent kid. Neither are considered particularly trustworthy by the people who interact with them in daily life. HOWEVER. cuno has the spark and excitement harry lacks when harry lets him come along. he has hope. he wants to help, he wants to participate even if he doesn't quite know what he's doing. Why? Because if you got him in your party in the first place, it means he feels comfortable around you! For real, when you get that kid to respect YOU he REALLY starts trusting and looking up to you. He's ride or die. For hells sake he chooses HARRY over cunoesse! You don't belittle him and his interests like Cunoesse does! He gets to be unashamedly himself! Plus you're HIS pig. He already very much has a cop/detective fixation and during the entire time he's around harry he's absolutely PUMPED to be solving the crime with him and he's more than willing to help you out and give his two cents on the matter even if he doesn't really know anything about anything.
And so WHAT if he's just some kid? So what if he's POOR and doesn't have a camera to photograph the phasmid? He talks about harry a LOT more than kim does and with awe in his voice. He defends harry until the fucking end and he does NOT stop. He literally doesn't shut up. he just keeps fucking GOING. He blurts stuff out to defend you even if it's not helpful because he respects harry!!! truly respects him! he WANTS to help. he'll say stuff even if his words fail to convey properly what he means.
And then what?? You do the same for him. Well, youre giving me a chance right? Then take the kid along, he helped. He has nothing, his dad is a wasted dying drunkard (like me) and hes poor (like me). But he did good (i did too). He has potential (do do i). Hell behave (i'm trying to behave). Hell be a good detective (like me. he's just like me). PLEASE take him in (you're giving me a second chance, give him one too).
I Need you to understand. In my playthrough i got harry talking about how he feels like he had children at home when he's asked if he has a family. He feels like he has children, daughters. But alas. You're hit at the end of the game with Dora's 'i terminated our pregnancy because youre poor.' I get a feel that he WANTED to be a father. He wanted a family, but he was just So Fucking Mentally Ill about Everything it never came to be.
But honestly? He'd be an alright mentor figure. He clearly enjoys older kids, despite what he says about not being good with kids. He was a high school teacher! He's Clearly used to dealing with older kids and delinquents and he can talk to them like an equal, if he wants to, he can crack them too! He can be understanding.
And so what? Hell never have Dora's kids, but then he, harry (the drunken cunt) (the cunt everybody hates) (the fucking asshole), can be nice to this delinquent addict child a bunch of times (a foul mouthed jackass) (everybody Loathes that kid) (he doesnt know love) and then said kid starts following him like a lost puppy the moment harry needs company THE MOST. He accepts The Cuno. They have each other's back. They don't give up on each other. They want life to change for the better. Yknow???????
Cuno's ending hits muuuuch harder because of all that. Anyways. Yeah. rant over
#cuno#kuuno de ruyter#harry du bois#kim kitsuragi#disco elysium#i really really really like it when Father Figure in case you havent noticed. maybe its me projecting but???? its just how i feel about it#the ending i mean#i fucking LOVE CUNO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thinking more about the parallel between Harry processing his suicide attempt, driving his car into the sea, by only remembering it through the fictionalised lens of sea monster imagery and Cunoesse regressing into pretending she's a mythological creature when she's under a lot of stress- the "näkk shit" as Cuno puts it. Drama says it explicitly- "She regresses and pretends she's a mythological creature when she's under too much stress." With Harry's attempt, driving his car into the sea and barely managing to drag himself out at the last moment, but refusing to acknowlege it for what it was and recontextualising the scattered pictures that he gets from his memories of the crash quite literally through the lens of fantasy- "This is how a sea monster sees the world. You've become a sea monster -- giant, hidden and… strangely tender at heart. All is blue."- he is essentially doing the same thing. Here he's remembering the almost peaceful experience of being under the sea, the stillness found below the waves, as he exited the vehicle and came back to shore. It's fuzzy and confused, layered with metaphor, but the image is repeated again by Idiot Doom Spiral also calling him a sea monster- "We ran towards the ice, whilst you crawled your way out, miraculously unhurt -- covered in seaweed and shit. Like some kind of sea monster." There's something to be said too about his compounded guilt allowing him to see himself as a monster but ALSO a safety, a comfort in being something inhuman. A "hug monster," a "monster, a murderer, the Gnome of Geroma." Just like Cunoesse, it's a shield. A way to protect themselves from painful memories and process reality. And somehow in processing all of this trauma, in reaffirming his inhumanity, Harry's self-described monstrousness is filled at its heart with that same soft-cored tenderness. His wibbling jello soul. His tender heart.
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Completely random things about Disco Elysium characters that I think about
Klaasje isn't Garte's type and he is probably the only one immune to her charm (she even manages to fool Kim)
Garte never takes a step back and even yells at the Hardie Boys and mercenaries. He doesn't give a shit if he dies.
Cunoesse sleeps outside at night
Cuno used to do his homework so he is not 100% illiterate
Cuno is locked out of his house by his father (his father keeps his key) so Harry breaking into their apartment might be the only way he could get in again
Smoker in the balcony says that Harry looks like he does belong in the Homosexual Underground. He even flirts a little
Egghead dresses like a boideiro
Measurehead can't get hard for his babe which he uses some of his racist bullshit to explain
You can touch the hanged man's penis for some reason and electrochemistry even urges you to
Kim intervenes when Harry is talking to Paledriver or Joyce only out of concern for him
When Harry sees Judit he immediately remembers her as the horse faced woman because that was probably what he used to call her before his amnesia, at least in his head
Similarly, Jean uses the words middle-class, bangable and fuckable while describing Dora in a deadpan tone even though he never met her because that was probably what Harry exactly said about Dora while he was drunk. The drunks in the fishing village also confirm that Harry said a "whore" fucked him over.
Endurance and physical instrument holds Harry's repressed toxic masculinity and possible misogyny, although you can become a feminist or grow out of those thoughts throughout the game. If you don't, they will repeat thoughts about how women are whores and they are all crazy.
Both in Harry's first dream and last dream, his subconscious focuses on Dora's sexual aspects: Warmth of her mouth, between her thighs, wearing a white gown that shows her figure etc.
Kim will still like your karaoke performance even if it was a disaster and he will even defend your performance against Jean
Jules Pideu will try to encourage you if you tell him you can't do this anymore
What Judit feels for Harry is just pity
If you make a "joke" to Cuno about Kim dressing in drag Kim will think something like "YOU are the one who looks like a hooker in those promiscuous clothes"
Jean will also tell you that you look like you have 20 STDs if you are wearing something "promiscuous"
Trant used to be a drug addict and so he understands why Harry can't just quit drinking
Ruby does not actually want to hurt Harry and Kim. She even decreases the intensity of pale emitter because she feels bad for them
Evrart will say "you are NOT an ultraliberal Harry, get the fuck out of here" if Harry says that he is an ultraliberal
Kim will yell "are you stupid??" so loud that Harry will lose a health point if he says that he is a fascist
Andre is "not twenty" and he is already balding
"Pigs" lady used to take care of the Hardie boys when they were kids
Titus says "some Hardie boys are queerer than others and that's okay", looking at Glen
Glen is probably gay but he is the one who reacts the most when Harry says that Ruby likes girls
You can give the working class woman a hug
Harry can ask Joyce if she wants to fuck but she will evade it immediately, saving both of them from embarrasment
If Harry goes on a date with Lilienne, one of his skills will say that this is as far as he could go in his current state & he should be sober for more than a year for something more. Which indicates that if Harry did not keep drinking/he has recovered, he could actually pursue Lilienne and they could be something more
Kim knows that wearing anal beads in public would not make a sound
#Almost none of these are tied to each other. These just live in my head for some reason#Completely random#disco elysium#Things i'm playing
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Kim doesn't hate kids! He is uncomfortable around them - due at least in part to his PTSD - and there is a difference!
He doesn't engage with Cuno or Cunoess because, as a faggot and obvious transexual, i can assure you that when the person slinging slurs at you is a little kid walking away/ ignoring it really is the only way to "win" that scenario
But if you refuse to rub your face on lamby when Little Lily asks because "you don't deserve it" he immediately commands you to get on with it (i.e: dont be fucking weird with this little girl, please)
And when he asks how setting up a nightclub for some teens could be relevant to the case you can point out that it's spring and the ice they're on will thaw and they might sink, causing him to agree to the idea since it's less about the club and more about harm prevention
He (who is wearing ENTIRELY too little clothing for the weather...) can also offer Acele his jacket, a jacket that he is fond enough to wear during Elysium's version of yoga
So as funny as it is to see art where he's antagonising Cuno the moment Harry turns his back, I really don't believe he's an "Eww, children" kinda guy
He was an orphan, he definitely knows what it was like to run to an adult for help and be swatted away or outright ignored
#granted he clearly doesn't gravitate towards their company like Harry does#but interpretations of his character where he's cruel to children? nah not our kim#now there is a baby he might actually bully and his name is Jean Vicquemar-#disco elysium#kim kitsuragi#breakthrough imminent: post of mine
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Assumption based off your fanfics you’ve written:
Either you never had a family you could lean on so you cope by writing family fluff or you had a really good childhood and you use your unique skills to give sad characters good families
There is no in between
WAH I DIDNT EXPECT TO ACTUALLY GET AN ASSUMPTION *o*
straight up speechless right now oh my god
"really good childhood" ABSOLUTELY feels inaccurate but i mean i am currently really close to my parents and 2 out of 3 siblings (the closest i will come to airing out family drama publicly. at least while im sober.) so the second option is perhaps more accurate? i just really like a family unit and specifically i want cuno and cunoesse to be taken care of since those are some HIGHLY traumatized children AND HARRY GETS TO BOND WITH CUNO BUT NOT C! I WANT HER TO BE SAFE TOO!
but also holy shit you didn't hold back ASDFGHGFDSDFGGF and i'm not saying that's a bad thing i have been lowkey curious for a while what kind of breadcrumbs i have accidentally been slipping into stuff since i very much DO take real life things but then twist them to be different enough, like to me they feel like they contain at most 60% of stuff accurate to my life
#ask#ask meme#secret-sageent#ALSO did you ever get my ask i sent about your art request post uwu#if you did then no rush take forever but lemme know if tumblr ate my ask or something#personal
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SHARK DU BOIS
-> DR//G MENTION, OD MENTION.
☆ 《 CHILD TO HARRY DU BOIS ; LAST NAME PREVIOUSLY — WILLOWFERN.
☆ 《 DOESNT EXACTLY KNOW HOW THEY MANAGED TO FIND THEIR DAD, THEY JUST DID. THEY LIKE TO BELIEVE ITS DUE TO THEIR "EXPERT INTELLIGENCE".
☆ 《 HAS A SPECIAL INTEREST WITH SHARKS.
☆ 《 SEES CUNO & CUNOESSE AS THEIR SIBLINGS, AND KIM AS THEIR SECOND FATHER.
☆ 《 TENDS TO TAG ALONG WITH HARRY ON HIS INVESTIGATIONS, THEY ARE AN HONORARY DETECTIVE IN TRAINING.
☆ 《 LOVES TO WORK ON MACHINERY & CARS DESPITE NOT EXACTLY KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT THEM AND NOT EXACTLY KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE DOING. EVER.
☆ 《 LOOKS UP TO BOTH KIM & HARRY AND WANTS TO FOLLOW IN THEIR DADS FOOTSTEPS AS MUCH AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN.
☆ 《 FOUND OUT THEY WERE NONBINARY AFTER HAVING A LONG CONVERSATION WITH KIM ABOUT GENDER IDENTITY AND WHAT-NOT.
☆ 《 REALLY LIKES LISTENING TO METAL AND ROCK AND THE OCCASIONAL CLASSICAL MUSIC, ALSO LEARNING THE FIDDLE FROM KIM.
☆ 《 ADORES 80'S STYLE CLOTHING AND PATTERNS, ESPECIALLY COLLARED SHIRTS WITH FUNKY PATTERNS ON THEM.
☆ 《 HAS A DUFFLEBAG THEY CARRY ON THEIR PERSON AT ALL TIMES, SCATTERED WITH SHARK PINS & SEWN IN COLOURFUL PATCHES.
☆ 《 SEASONAL DEPRESSION, AUDHD, GENERALIZED ANXIETY DISORDER, MILD EPILEPSY, ASTHMA.
☆ 《 HAS A DIFFICULT TIME PROPERLY FORMING WORDS AND SOCIALIZING, ALSO HAS REALLY TERRIBLE EYE-SIGHT WITHOUT THEIR GLASSES, SENSITIVE TO FLASHING LIGHTS & EYE-STRAIN, DIFFICULTIES UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY'RE READING.
☆ 《 HAS DIFFICULTIES TAKING THINGS SERIOUSLY.
☆ 《 REFERS TO THEMSELF IN THIRD PERSON OFTEN.
☆ 《 USES THEY/THEM + NEOS.
☆ 《 MOTHER DIED A YEAR BACK AFTER AN OD, LEADING INTO SHARK ATTEMPTING TO FIND THEIR FATHER.
☆ 《 THEIR MOTHER WAS NEVER REALLY THERE FOR THEM, THEY GREW UP IN A RUN-DOWN APARTMENT BUILDING, AND THEY HAD A CAT WHO THEY NAMED SARDINE.
☆ 《 MOST OF THE MONEY THEM AND THEIR MOM HAD WAS USED ON DR/GS AND MORE OFTEN THEN NOT, SHARK WENT HUNGRY AND ENDED UP LEARNING TO EAT ONLY A LITTLE IN ORDER TO ENSURE THEY HAD ENOUGH FOR THE NEXT DAY.
☆ 《 THEY REFUSED TO STEAL ANYTHING DUE TO THEIR MOM HAVING A CRIMINAL RECORD FOR ROBBERY AND THEY REALLY DID NOT WANT TO BE LIKE THEIR MOM AT ALL.
☆ 《 THEIR MOM DID CARE FOR THEM THOUGH, SHE JUST WASNT THE BEST ROLE-MODEL FOR THEM IN THE SLIGHTEST. SHE ALWAYS TRIED TO PROVIDE AND SUPPORT SHARK, BUT DUE TO HER ADDICTION, SHE WAS UNABLE TO DO SO PROPERLY.
☆ 《 SHARK DOES NOT RESENT THEIR MOTHER IN THE SLIGHTEST, THEY CAN'T POSSIBLY BRING THEMSELF TO DO SO.
@gmanwhore
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unfortunate side effect of watching Fantasy High literally all day is that I am imagining Cunoesse playing Wirral with Bernadette and Cuno and maybe Harry and Kim
to me Wirral is like the in-universe equivalent of DND right
and if Bernadette is the DM then it'll be a completely homebrewed adventure based on Feline Fighters (i sincerely forgot what I named that series in-universe) and everyone would have to be a cat. However the adventure would be really planned out and with a sincerely interesting plot full of mystery, intrigue, and more violence than you would assume a bubbly 13 year old would make. However it would be TOO planned out and Bernadette initially wouldn't do well with players going off the planned adventure and would have to work on not railroading them.
HOWEVER: I am also imagining that they play like, a few sessions with the cat adventure but it gets dropped and they don't actually finish it, but Cunoesse surprisingly liked it A Lot so she wanted to play more. She was able to get Cuno to DM a session with the two of them that is the pre-made campaign that comes with the game and Cunoesse read the entire thing ahead of time and she /kind of/ takes over as the main character of the world and does everything "right" because it is more satisfying for her. Despite this, or maybe because of it, Bernadette goes completely RP-heavy and doesn't do a damn thing to progress the plot and she's just having a fun time while Cunoesse does the heavy lifting and minimal RP and it doesn't sound fun but I imagine them all having a blast.
Cuno periodically is a little shit and puts in something that he thought of on the spot with the intention of throwing Cunoesse off her game and it makes he Pissed Off every single time. He does it one too many times and she's throwing shit and climbing on the table to try and hit him and they have to be separated but they're back to playing the next weekend.
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Greatest regret of my first DE playthrough is that despite bumping up my int stats as much as I could I still barely got any world lore and almost nothing on the Pale. Second greatest regret is that I didn't get the jackets. Third greatest regret is that I didn't even get the option of the feminism thought. Fourth greatest regret is I couldn't figure out a way to get Annette inside. Fifth greatest regret (related to first) is that my psyche was so low that I feel like I missed out on like half the game. Ah well.
Greatest victory was completing the homosexual underground thought task pretty early on. Second greatest victory was getting Kim to trust me enough to not get shot during the tribunal. Third greatest victory is getting the working class woman to hug me back. Fourth greatest victory was managing to remember to do karaoke (and failing, but I was fine with that). Fifth greatest victory was getting a cool dice set like hell yeah.
Greatest complaint was that I can't end the game not on the force without getting Kim shot (this is a good narrative decision it just makes me sad). Second greatest complaint was that I couldn't get much backstory on Cuno or Cunoesse without either like punching Cuno or recruiting him (this is also a good narrative decision it just makes me sad). Third greatest complaint was I couldn't argue enough with Morrel and Lena about their racist bullshit (this is a good narrative decision it just makes me angry) (up to this point my complaints have been less complaints and more just marking the interesting ways the game positions you as a white male cop and then never ever lets you forget that fact, which is a very very very good narrative choice).
Fourth greatest complaint is not enough lore (there is lots of lore but I want more. The Pale? The history of the rcm? Please tell me every single little thing? Please?). Fifth greatest complaint was that I had to gentrify the fishing village to get my gun back (come on Everart I know you can be better than this. Like maybe if you care about this community you can work to get the goddamn gun away from the mentally ill old lady and maybe don't send the trigger-happy cops after her?? and not use the situation as a weird power play?? Ffs man. Like I'm not even that mad about the probable murder of the past union organizer, I'm willing to hear you out on that one; just like, can you not endanger random innocent people in Martinaisse to no good end please??) (this is an ok narrative decision but I'm still angry about it. Like my man i know you're a narrative foil to Joyce and all but could you maybe not reflect the "callous disregard for lives and wellbeing of those you supposedly care about, but on a smaller scale so that it seems horrible rather than abstracted as to be justifiable like the Moralist Coalition or whatever does"??? But alas much must be sacrificed in the way of "cool compelling narrative that is damning critique of oppressive power structures and their ability to propagate etc etc").
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3. Charging rent just to live somewhere *is* pretty outrageous.
+1 Communism
LA FUMÉE, VOL 1. NO. 4 - The writer G. Martin remarks dryly that 'capitalists *love* wealth redistribution, so long as it's only redistributed *upward*'...
You flip back to the front of the magazine. The table of contents unfolds before you.
5. [Put the magazine away.]
Since we've leveled up Conceptualization, I head back to the wall, but we've lost our bonus from the evening light. No point trying this now.
The bookstore is also closed by now. Only one place left to go tonight.
🎵 Whirling in Rags, 12 PM
Looks like Lena and the Hardie boys are already gone.
It's a bowl. There's spit in it, reeking of tobacco.
Photos of men in overalls, toting guns and Union placards.
You see hawthorn bushes outside. Hmm...
GARTE, THE CAFETERIA MANAGER - "Can I help you?" He arches an eyebrow.
"About my bill for tonight..."
GARTE, THE CAFETERIA MANAGER - "Got the 20 reál?"
"Yeah, 20 reál for the night."
"Not yet..."
GARTE, THE CAFETERIA MANAGER - "Good. You got the room for the night, but remember -- you'll need *another* 20 reál tomorrow."
-20.00 reál
Task complete: Find money for rent and pay Garte
+10 XP
EMPATHY [Challenging: Success] - Take it easy on him. Deep down he really hates being the guy who has to remind you.
4. "Good bye." [Leave.]
Goracy Kubek is also gone from the kitchen. No looking into the shady brew.
Alright. Time to see if we can get those boots. First we need to get rid of Kim, so we'll pretend to turn in for tonight.
"See you in the morning."
"Bye."
There is some more stuff to look at in our room first, however. Perception shows us we can pick up this Empty Cassette Case.
EMPTY CASSETTE CASE
There used to be a tape in this case, but it was destroyed in a fit of rage. Something about the Etenniers' single Smallest Church in Saint-Saëns must have rubbed someone the wrong way. The label says the song was recorded in '43.
Words fail to describe how rank it smells in here. They should have sent a poet.
MIRROR - A mirror hangs on the bathroom wall. In it -- your face, adorned with *The Expression*.
2. [Electrochemistry - Impossible 18] Attempt to stop *The Expression* from happening.
This time I remember to put on my cool jeans and gloves before trying an Electrochemistry check.
ELECTROCHEMISTRY [Impossible: Failure] - Still not happening. It won't come off that easy.
4. [Let the mirror be for now.]
Let's make our way back to the body.
THE HANGED MAN - The man is decomposing visibly now. Every hour he looks less like a creature and more like a pile of intestines...
2. Try to remove the dead man's boots again.
THE HANGED MAN - The body is reluctant to let go of the boots -- as though they were its last bit of dignity.
CUNO - "Whoah. Cuno's little *sneak-pig's* back for the booty... "
CUNOESSE - "Yeah, fuck it to pieces for us. Liar cop!"
Pull on the right boot.
Pull on the left boot.
THE HANGED MAN - It's not completely useless. You're able to reveal a little more of the putrid polymer sock beneath the boot.
2. Pull on the left boot.
THE HANGED MAN - It feels like the leg is going to come off along with the boot, but you are able to get the boot to move a centimetre or two.
EMPATHY [Easy: Success] - See? The corpse doesn't care if you try to take his boots. He doesn't need them. He's probably *glad* to get rid of them.
Pick up the body and try to shake the boots off.
Step on the corpse as you pull on the boots.
Try to twist the boots off one by one.
THE HANGED MAN - It's heavier than you'd think. You're forced to drop it back down immediately. The corpse lands on the ground with a nauseating thud, looking even sadder than before.
PHYSICAL INSTRUMENT [Formidable: Failure] - Damn, you're out of shape... In your defence, the corpse *was* quite slippery.
2. Step on the corpse as you pull on the boots.
THE HANGED MAN - Something cracks in the left leg -- it really is about to come off. The leg, I mean. Not the boot.
VISUAL CALCULUS [Medium: Success] - You may want to slow down. Don't tear into it like that.
3. Try to twist the boots off one by one.
THE HANGED MAN - This is the right method. It takes some time, but eventually the boots come off -- with nasty slices of polymer sock stuck to even bigger pieces of skin and rotting flesh.
Item gained: Fairweather T-500 Boots with Rotting Flesh
CUNOESSE - "Look -- he's skinning the fucker up good. *Puukko* style."
CUNO - "Hell. Keep at it, pig!"
Take stock of the damage.
THE HANGED MAN - The legs look like they've been clawed at by wild animals. As for the boots -- you can't possibly do anything with them until you have cleaned and *disinfected* them thoroughly.
PERCEPTION (SMELL) [Trivial: Success] - Yes. These absolutely need to be washed before. The stink is incredible.
2. [Leave.]
FAIRWEATHER T-500 BOOTS WITH ROTTING FLESH
Don't smell these boots. Better yet, don't even *think* about them – unless it's to think about how you're going to get them clean, that is. For now, they're unsellable, unwearable, and just downright disgusting.
We can, unfortunately, interact with these.
BOOTS WITH ROTTING FLESH - These boots were probably left on the corpse because they were impossible to pull off while it was hanging. They're not exactly pleasant to look at right now, much less smell.
Look the boots over carefully.
Look at the soles of the boots.
Look inside the boots.
[Put the boots away.]
BOOTS WITH ROTTING FLESH - Graceful whorls cover the boots' glossy surface. These will be gorgeous once you get them clean.
2. Look at the soles of the boots.
BOOTS WITH ROTTING FLESH - "Fairweather T-500 / VE" is imprinted under each heel.
3. Look inside the boots.
BOOTS WITH ROTTING FLESH - Still just pieces of sock and rotting cadaver.
4. [Put the boots away.]
We need to find a kitchen to clean these in. I can only think of one... I'm sure Garte won't mind.
INDUSTRIAL STOVE - This industrial gas-powered stove has been used to prepare food for many hungry hostel guests. There are several pots and pans on hand.
SAVOIR FAIRE [Easy: Success] - Getting the corpse residue out of these boots is going to require patience. And also a huge pot full of boiling water, soap, and white vinegar.
Check out the cookware.
Check out the cleaning supplies.
Master chef out. [Leave.]
INDUSTRIAL STOVE - A commercial pot draws your attention. It's very large. Gigantic, even. It could be used to make enough stew to feed an entire city. And also to boil a putrid pair of death-boots.
ESPRIT DE CORPS [Medium: Success] - Far away, in the darkness of a makeshift morgue behind Station 41's lazareth, Dr. Nix Gottlieb cuts into the cold, dead feet of a murder victim. The veins are oddly black, he suspects a neurotoxin...
2. Check out the cleaning supplies.
INDUSTRIAL STOVE - There is a variety of soaps and bleaches in the cabinet to the left of the stove. There is also a bottle of white vinegar in the cabinet next to the fridge.
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empathy, suggestion, and shivers!!
OOOH thank you these are good ones, I’ve answered empathy here!!
disco elysium ask game
suggestion: if you could change one thing about disco elysium, what would it be?
I would give the IP back to Robert Kurvitz 🥲
But also I would have MORE CUNOESSE!!! I’m so curious about what exactly happened to her, how she came to be here alone in Martinaise…
shivers: what is…le retour?
Fuckkkkk op is a genius for making this an ask prompt. To me le retour is a lot of things. Klaasje calls it an urban myth more than anything, and mentions that it’s a concept that seems to appeal to everyone regardless of political alignment. It’s implied (if not just outright stated) that a real political event is on the horizon, so when it does then we’ll have a more literal answer to “what is Le Retour of ‘51 in Revachol,” but as a concept it seems to have a very universal appeal. Steban even mentions a “La Vuelta” that happened in Mesque at one point! I think ultimately, le retour is a kind of longing to return to a time when you believed in a promised future. Maybe you’re hoping for a return of the commune, or of the Suzerain, or of a 12 year long relationship. Whatever you’re waiting for, it’s gone, and the only way to experience it again would be to give into the pale and let the past consume you entirely. In a way, it might be a beautiful experience. But it will cost you the future.
UN JOUR JE SERAIS PRÈS DE TOI. “One day, I will return to your side.” There’s a lot of separations in the game. Cindy disappears with those words, Klaasje and Ruby run away separately rather than together, Cuno and Cunoesse mysteriously split if you get partnered with Cuno, Tommy is separated from his family, Gaston and Billie lose their other halves, who die alone. And then there’s Harry and Dora, of course. I think it’s very interesting how some of these separations differ depending on whether or not the hope of a return/reunion is also hope for the future. Tommy’s family really is waiting for him to return, and thinking of them gives him strength to get through the loneliness of being stuck in this jam. On the other hand, René and Jenny are dead, and when Gaston thinks about them, he hopes that he’ll die and join them soon. In Harry’s dreams, his nightmare version of Dora tells him “there are no stars. There is no future.” And in his waking life, the home that’s waiting for him is no longer on Voyager Road, it’s on Perdition. He’s driven to this massive breakdown because he feels like his life is just going to be this forever. Returning to the intersection, failing to stop Dora from leaving him, waking up and still finding himself in hell.
So in my mind, yeah, le retour represents a very universal longing. To some, it’s hope for a future. (“It’s our way of saying we refuse to accept that the world has to remain like this.” “Broken. Unfinished.”) To others, it’s a kind of suicidal ideation. (“I am on the side of the adversary.”) I think de is very much about how both sides of that longing are at the heart of politics and philosophy.
#asks#army-of-bee-assassins#have been rotating that le retour question around in my brain for so long thank u for the prompt 😭
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Okay, I have some ideas for some choose your own adventure style stories, I’m gonna start with something small based on a couple of suggestions I’ve gotten, but I have something a little bigger planned for the future once I’ve tested the waters a little 👀 here’s what I’m thinking:
Ideally each adventure will be contained in one post and I’ll use an extension to add polls to reblogs, so long as the polls don’t break
(if they do break, I’ll have to switch to using a tag that people can scroll back through to see each adventure from start to finish. The fact that they’ll be in reverse order is a little annoying but oh well. And posts with polls not being editable unfortunately means that I can add “start here” or “previous” buttons to each post to make navigation a little easier, but I can’t add a “next” button 😔)
Since the shortest poll duration is 24 hours, I don’t think I’d be able to make every single Harry dialogue a poll, or else it would take a veeeery long time to get through the story and I imagine that it would get annoying. It would be easier to pull off in a twitter thread than a tumblr post. For this blog, I’ll try to make each installment long enough to be satisfying, and each dialogue poll important enough to be worth the wait.
(For this reason, I also wouldn’t be able to make it so that you could go through all of the options in some dialogue lists like you can in the game. Sorry!)
I think it would be fun to include active checks! (Red checks only, again white checks/going through multiple dialogue options might be more fun to attempt if polls could be like an hour or two long like on Twitter.) It could look something like, if the check option wins the poll then that’s an attempted check, but whether it’s a success or failure depends on the percentage of voters. Higher the difficulty, higher the percentage of votes needed.
If anyone has any thoughts/suggestions, let me know! I’m hoping to test the waters with a short one about Cunoesse based on some suggestions soon!
#meg talks#one person suggested cunoesse and another suggested smth about harry’s friends mentioned in the fifteenth indotribe thought#and i was like ohoho. extremely compatible suggestions#anyway stay tuned i suppose#the Big Project i’d like to do is about dora… 👀
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harry for the character ask
Ooh, okay!
First impression: I first saw him through fan art here on tumblr so my first impression was that he was a relatively handsome middle aged dude with weird facial hair lol. I didn't know anything about his character at the time.
Impression now: I love him. I see a reflection of so much of the world through him. Class struggle, addiction struggle. I see him as a kind of hope that things can get better (I always make him sober up due to past trauma involving alcoholism)
Favorite moment: this might be a bit outside the norm (maybe?) but I think my favourite moment is when he digs a little deeper into the hanged man and finds the bullet lodged in this brain stem. That solidified in me that he is actually a good detective.
Idea for a story: I want to draw up a comic where he quits the RCM and goes back to being a teacher. Maybe an art teacher this time around (or whatever the Elysium equivalent is to an English teacher). Maybe I'll include that in my Cunoesse AU comic.
Unpopular opinion: I like to think he gains some weight after the events in the game. He's described as fat in the game but I don't really think he is. Well, to an extent. He's overweight, got a beer gut, but to me that's not really all that fat, just flabby.
Favorite relationship: his relationship with Kim if that wasn't obvious from the art I make lol. I also like to think he's like Goku or Naruto and eventually wins everyone over.
Favorite headcanon: he's an excellent cook and writer.
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what tags/words do you think the disco elysium gang would block on tumblr?
oh man I have no idea. I'm also operating under a loose idea of "disco elysium gang" applying to anyone who I can think of something for lol
I'm partial to the idea that Harry's brain itself censors the word "faggot," not the game so that for him for sure, maybe religion/Dolores dei if inland empire gets through? maybe even "dora ingerlund" gets blocked in a fit of paranoia
Kim's internalized racism makes me think he'd definitely block anime as a whole. pinball too, even though no one on earth posts about pinball. just to be safe. he also blocks anything he can think of to do with junior delinquency, including "pranks" and "tomfoolery" because that's funny for me
jean runs a horse blog and blocks anything and everything he comes across that doesn't have to do with horses or like. muscles or some shit.
trant doesn't have anything to block because he uses tumblr as an actual blog and doesn't even realize he has a dashboard.
Torson and McLaine run a shared buddy-cop blog where they only post like. physical pictures of stills from movies that are accidentally vaguely homoerotic but they don't know what captions are so the stills are incomprehensible. they don't block anything but they follow the pornbots back.
evrart has most political things blocked so that he doesn't have to see other people's opinions. he does like every single one of Harry's posts though, even if he has to click the scary button to show something he's blocked
cunoesse doesn't block tags but does block anyone who follows her immediately. she sends hate off anon first so they read it and know it's her but blocks them before they respond
cuno blocks words seemingly at random after taking too much speed for his tiny body one night and doesn't know how to fix it so he just leaves it
Cindy has steban and ulixes blocked even though they're her friends because they're annoying
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gotta ask about gremlin boi Cuno (and also C if you want hh)
CUNO TIME!
first impression: im gonna be honest i just found him deeply annoying and his voice grated on me lol it took a few conversations for me to warm up to him
impression now: ouugh the scrunkly........ cuno is such a fun character but also So So Deeply Sad. i only want good things for him in the future. i would also let him infodump to me abt his fictional city if he was prepared to talk abt it
favourite moment: hm. cuno says a lot of shocking yet humorous stuff, but more than that i think my fav moment with him is the aforementioned locust city stuff. would love to know more abt it. also whenever he gets genuinely enthusiastic abt the idea of harry and kim being gay for each other LOL
idea for a story: i don't think i rlly have any
unpopular opinion: although i think harry and cuno being friends could be helpful for both of them, i don't think it would be remotely feasible or healthy for harry to be a father figure to cuno long term like what gets portrayed in fan content sometimes. im not particularly passionate abt this or anything it's just my personal take
favourite relationship: despite the previous answer lol, it's gotta be his friendship with harry. considering how negatively things begin with them, it's rlly interesting to see how things can develop between them
favourite headcanon: neurodivergent cuno. very very real
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doing c/cunoesse too like you said bc i love her.......
first impression: i thought she was cuno's sister at first lol. i honestly didn't register her much at first, i feel like she's one of those characters that continues to grow on you the more you encounter her or think abt her
impression now: poor cunoesse....... poor little demon child............. even in better endings for cuno she's just left there alone in martinaise. what happened to her to make her the way she is........ i would love to know. disco elysium cunoesse spinoff when
favourite moment: ough i love the various little moments where her facade cracks a tiny bit and you can see that she genuinely does care abt cuno despite it all, and when she gets upset when cuno expresses vaguely suicidal thoughts. she's a person she does care abt him shes just deeply messed up
idea for a story: i always had a vague idea abt writing something abt what happens to her in the route where cuno is harry's partner in solving the case, like what happens to her after they leave martinaise. but i never got round to actually writing anything and my memories of the ideas are pretty foggy now 😔
unpopular opinion: i think it's sad when both the game and the fandom talk abt cuno but act like she isn't important or doesn't exist. yes she gets less direct character development than cuno but she's so fascinating and so sad and i wish ppl talked abt her more
favourite relationship: her friendship with cuno, how she genuinely cares abt him bc he showed her an act of kindness........ it's sad that he doesn't seem as attached to her as she is to him, and i hope she can form connections with other ppl in the future, but her friendship with cuno and the shenanigans they get up to are not only entertaining but also kinda touching at times
favourite headcanon: a while back i saw a fan theory that she's actually the gnome of geroma and it's one of my favourite de headcanons of all time. it's real to me. sometimes a little girl can be a venomous gnome beast as a treat
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Okay, I finished Disco Elysium. (Spoilers)
Had to sit with it for a while. Wasn’t sure how I felt at first, but now I think I’ve kind of got my head around it, or at least I’m starting to.
So, for the record, Ruby shot herself and the Tribunal did not go well. I didn’t save Elizabeth and Kim got shot (although did not die afaik), which means Cuno tagged along for the island and joined the squad. I’m assuming Kim would’ve done, had he been present.
I had to think about The Deserter for a while. Like who is this guy? What does he represent? But I think I understand. He’s an ideologue who couldn’t move on, who couldn’t let go. He’s stuck on his moment of failure. Which is what Harry isn’t. As much as he fucks up (and it’s a lot), he keeps going. So there’s that.
I also like the idea of it being a kind of random event, like not any of the suspects you’ve been investigating. I think that’s related to the Phasmid. Which, I KNEW IT. I knew that cryptozoology stuff was going to come back, that the game wanted me to keep believing. Like, the mystery’s essentially unsolvable from prior information—you have to follow the path, persevere, believe and you come upon something… weirdly beautiful, if probably not what you expected.
The ontological mystery never got solved, exactly. Like, it’s obviously working on a metaphorical level. And it’s alluding to more—all the stuff about power and gaming, the symbolism of Anodic Dance Music and such, I dunno, the fantasy around the edges. Maybe in a second playthrough, I can figure out more.
Cos I know there’s stuff I didn’t see. Whose bedroom was that that I broke into in the apartments? What’s up with the old lady hiding in the lorries who wouldn’t talk to me? What, exactly, is behind the secret doors in the Whirling? Why did Ruby think I worked for LMP? The fuck is with Cindy and Cunoesse? Etc.
(I did finally get in the cargo container, though, and… whoo, that guy. But also there’s the whole “this reality is subjective on a very literal level” thing that’s happening there. There’s so much weirdly interesting shit in here—it’s like batshit absurd but also very well thought-out. That seems to be the crux of the appeal.)
I dunno. I need to chew on this one for a while. It’s a game I look forward to revisiting in like, a year or two, when I’ve forgotten just enough of it to make it spicy. But yeah, it’s doing something big. Like there’s SO much going on, on both a literal plot and metaphorical level… I see why it has the reputation it does.
For now, I’m deciding what to play next. I have about a month until FF16–I’m thinking maybe TLOU2?
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