#also any discord server with a trigger warning list that's a mile long and adds members triggers
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i’m feeling messy. for the new ask game, 5 :)
for the choose violence ask game!
5. worst discord server and why
of COURSE you would choose to be this messy, you lil rat. <3 i will be kind enough to not name the server, it's a general Batfamily server i found on Disboard. most Bafam discord servers tend to be... anti leaning so it's something i sort of expect, but this one has a "ship advisory list", including ships you're not allowed to share media of (like fanfic or fanart) and if you discuss the ship you can be told to stop talking about it. and there were the typical ships you'd expect like Joker/Harley, BatJokes, and ofc a "no proships" umbrella ban. but some of the ships fucking baffled me. like canon ships were on this list. ships i to this day can't figure out why they'd be banned. the top ships of the list that just *got me* in terms of "... what is bad about this ship???" were
DickBabs
DonnaDick
Barry/Diana
Barry/Dinah
JayRose
Catwoman/Penguin
Talia/Bane
some of these i didn't know were shipped in the *first place* but even if they are, i can't fathom what's wrong with them. some of them are canon, normal ships? like what did JayRose do wrong. it's one of Jason's healthier relationships. and DonnaDick somehow gets me the most. my only guess is that antis heard them referred to as the Wonder Twins and thus decided the ship was incestual. bc otherwise how. why. i laugh everytime i think about DonnaDick being problematic.
on one hand i do think it's fucking hilarious of a list and it always makes me laugh bc i cannot fathom the mentality. but on the other hand it is sort of depressing that so many public social platforms for discussing the Batfam are becoming *so* anti-leaning that ships can be banned simply bc the mods of the server decided they were problematic for some unforeseen reason. it was the biggest depiction of "i don't like this ship so it's problematic" i've ever seen. like where does the goalpost stop moving? when does it somehow become problematic to ship things in general? it was wild even for anti stuff. truly the most baffling server i've been in.
#necrotic answerings#necrotic and divine#ask game#proship#there are probably other shitty servers i've been in#but that one lives rent free.#tho i need you to know#my answer was *almost* the official dc discord server#i've never seen a more poorly moderated space in my life#it's pure madness.#how did dc think that was a good idea#i have so many questions for dc about that one.#also any discord server with a trigger warning list that's a mile long and adds members triggers#i'm sorry about that one but i have feelings about how you need to manage your own triggers online#and cannot expect public spaces like discord servers to cater to your triggers.#a contained trigger warning list with like. the typical gore/nsfw/drug use/etc makes sense to me#but having it so long it includes pieces of media is. to me just censorship but what do i know-
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Long discord blacklists are inaccessible and unethical
(note: all examples are either my own previous triggers unless stated otherwise)
Following a conversation in a discord I'm in, I wanted to make this post. This isn't mocking the concept of hyperspecific triggers, not is it saying that the concept of blacklists is inherently bad. However I think that making a long blacklist of peoples hyperspecific triggers, then insisting that people not only remember them but also either spoiler them or not mention them at all, is inaccessible and unethical.
I understand how they come about. You start with a general blacklist, of intense topics things like suicide or self harm or rape, and maybe a couple discourse topics you're sick of hearing about. Then someone asks if you can add a trigger on- a relatively common one. So you do. And then someone else asks, and someone else, and before you know it your blacklist is half a mile long and you can't mention marshmallows without a trigger warning and spoiler.
This is inaccessible.
If there's a long list, it'd likely be difficult to remember for anyone. Especially if people have memory issues- something that's very common with multiple disabilities, and ironically, many of the same disabilities or mental illnesses that cause these triggers in the first place. If you have a space full of people with disabilities or mental illnesses that cause memory issues, it's not particularly possible to expect that blacklist to be kept to. But if you do, and you warn or even ban people who don't adhere to the blacklist, you create a space that's hostile to disabled people.
Additionally, I've seen or been made aware of servers that don't seem to have any reasonable kind of limit for the blacklist. Servers that allow you to add prosthetic limbs to the blacklist. Limb differences. Mention of chronic pain. Facial differences. Servers that make disabled people trigger warn their own existence. That's not okay.
It's also unethical. Telling people that their triggers are on a list, so they'll be safe from them in that server, creates a false sense of security. Then if someone does accidentally forget that they're not meant to mention deodorant without a trigger warning? That false sense of security shatters. They thought they were safe in that server, but they aren't. They're not actually fully safe from their triggers anywhere really- it's impossible to guarantee that they won't be able to come into contact with their triggers.
I've had it happen in real life. Teachers told me they'd made everyone stop spraying deodorant in the PE changing rooms. I thought I was safe there. But people forgot and still sprayed, and it was worse than if I'd have know it was a risk. It meant my paranoia and feelings of not being safe anywhere got worse.
And yet these servers try and claim that the blacklist will keep them safe.
A blacklist that's gotten so long, it's almost impossible to remember.
A blacklist that has everything on it from photos of marshmallows to people's names (oh, and if that's your name? You have to go by an alias in that server) to F4 racing.
A blacklist that doesn't keep anyone safe.
It's not accessible and it's not ethical.
#im half asleep but my brain made me write this 👍#disability#blacklists#accessibility#online accessibility#inaccessibility#trauma#trauma triggers#triggers#complex ptsd#ptsd#ill reblog/edit with a tldr tomorrow maybe
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