#also also about the modesty thing there are a fair amount of nevernudes in kpop
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"like the whole bts thing as parasocial friends instead of boyfriends is genius but oh god the damage it id" can you elaborate on this? idk if i wasnt into kpop back then or what but what happened 😅
oh there wasn't actually like, an 'announcement' about it or anything lol. so basically bts' whole new marketing strategy post their failure to hit big as a hiphop group was that they were self-produced 'anti' idols with an emphasis on 'loving and accepting yourself' and 'making a supportive community'. which, on the surface, those are not bad things. kpop fan communities are often support systems for those involved, and you should try to at least be neutral about yourself. and there has been a distinct lack of community and community building in the western world + with the age of the internet and people are desperate for it, even if it's not something that people are cognizant of, so just on paper, it isn't a horrible idea. HOWEVER: when that push for community comes directly from a company, the company and the community get capitalistically intertwined and there becomes no way to separate the two. plus, it makes an extremely toxic community, as we've all seen, because the foundation of it is based on capitalism and consumption, while simultaneously hiding the fact that it's based on consumption, because fans will do overtime defending the company because the company pushes the community branding.
the other big part of this is pushing them as 'authentic' and 'real'. obvs this is straight up just not true, BUT it heavily appealed to western and intl fans who on the surface don't really understand the kpop model (it's also the western pop model but marketing™️) and who had orientalist views that kpop is 'manufactured' by the company and therefore 'not real music'. by presenting bts as these anti-idol figures that are 'fighting against the industry' (this was a big part as well), you hit a tonne of the demographics that wouldn't be caught by typical boy group marketing and it's precisely engineered to catch western fans. and a lot of those fans are not going to be familiar with how the industry works, and because bts' content is numerous and separated from the industry, it creates a closed loop where those fans never interact with any other groups' content and feed back into 'the community' perpetually.
also they pretty notably have done very little 'racy' content compared to other groups of their age. esp since they started doing their western push they've been pretty buttoned up, which i'm not gonna begrudge anyone who has personal boundaries about that kind of thing, but it IS unusual to family-friendly brand an entire group like that, which further enforces the "they're your friends" narrative.
#that one love yourself album or whatever it was called is the locus of this like the damage that album caused to kpop is irrepairable atp#also yes pretty much ALL kpop fan communities are based off consumption bc that's literally how the industry works#its all capitalism all the way down#but no company has ever successfully managed to HIDE THAT in the same way that hybe has#like the way hybe has company shooters is fucking crazy like NO other company has that#875#they do a lot of the 'we're your support system trust us we're here to help 🥺' rather than 'hey you wanna fuck me'#which is VASTLY more insidious bc 1) ALL KPOP IS FAKE and 2) it's harder to break the illusion bc it has a wider reach#and is 'more rational' than the boyfriend thing#text#answers#kpop questions#lalksdjfsdf this made me laugh i always forget that not everyone is a hag like me#also also about the modesty thing there are a fair amount of nevernudes in kpop#but very few groups are wholly family friendly like them#famously hakyeon is the most nevernude but also he's arguably the hottest member of vixx and that's POWER#so this is not a condemnation of modesty or that modesty = family friendly#it's just that hybe is using a particular image to push a narrative
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