#also I love jordayla so much lol

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Roberto Aguirre Sacasa’s influence (derogatory)

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Do you have any late thoughts on the proposal

Thank you for asking (ages ago - I am SO SORRY)!

I haven’t thought about All American too much during this hiatus but here’s some thought dumps. 

Jordan’s relationship with Layla has been a vehicle for displaying Jordan’s character development. He summed up his entire year with the word “maturity” and pretty much his primary plot in S5 was Layla. He is more mature now and we see it in his relationship with Layla. As a fan of Jordan and Jordayla, I’m happy to see how his character journey continues through the marriage chapter of life, and how it’s good and right. When he got married the first time, he didn’t ask his parents, he didn’t put in the work into the marriage afterwards, he didn’t tell his friends about it, he just did not go about it in a way that set them up to be successful at all. This time will be different. I did want to have heard his reflections but we’ll see them for sure.

In the last episode, Layla was the mouthpiece for the cons for marriage. I just can’t wait to hear them describe their decision and relationship. 

I just LOVE the later parts of a ship where we look over their past moments (Did anybody else just watch the Rina flashback montage in hsmtmts S4?!). When they call back to prom etc, when I hear their vows, I fear I won’t survive.

In S3, it comes up repeatedly that Jimone thought that marriage would turn their love “real”, whereas Jordayla’s love is very much already REAL. I did want to make a post about this but just don't have it in me to rewatch S3 lol.

To revisit their best friends era, just rewatch S4. To revisit their dating era, just rewatch S5. It doesn’t matter if it's too soon for them to get married, just watch S6 when you’re ready hahaha. I’m happy that a married era is being filmed and released of our favourite couple, who wouldn't be?

A cute thing – When he’s advising Asher about Jaymee, he talks about her being “not afraid to live.” Similar to 5x20, when talking about Jasher, we can hear into his thoughts about his own relationship. One of the main reasons for proposing is that after his traumatic experience, he’s eager to live, and he can only see himself doing it with one person. We see this theme repeatedly: “He wants to start a life with her” / “I don’t want to spend a day of my life without you knowing.” Also, whilst he’s giving relationship advice, Layla is heart eyeing him hard and it takes me back to the first time she caught feelings for him when he was giving relationship advice about Clay during the prom dance and she’s taken aback by that sincere passionate side of him. It’s still something that makes her swoon!

I’ve enjoyed their love story happening away from everyone, a little nervous for them to be in the middle of the spotlight. Oh, and I hope the marriage process is not to Billy-centric, hearing his name in the proposal almost sent me over the edge. Realistically, I know he’ll come up but I just won’t love it. 

I think the writers always (as much as a fan can ask for) get them right and will continue to. 

I’ve missed talking about Jordayla. Thanks for your ask anon!

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Not a question, just piggybacking off the 4x18 post + your response. But pls give your thoughts on anything I said.

I want to know how & when Spencer knew Layla was one of Jordan’s favorite people lol (4x18). & if it was bc he peeped them spending more time together, then the secret dating could’ve been so much better with him & liv spying on jordayla. Tailing them as they snuck around to more places than JUST the studio.

I think Spencer was noticing the closeness developing with jordayla, specifically Jordan's affection for Layla. Not in a romantic way because he had no idea until 5x09.

But steadily, he realized they were like, best friends. He might have seen Jordan worrying about Layla when they were all at the hospital for Coop, he might not have. But Layla moving into the Baker house definitely signified how close she really was to their family.

And Spencer saw Jordan just go completely full steam ahead planning her over-the-top bday party that JJ set up. He even told Liv Jordan wasn't gonna like it when he found out they had returned the piñata, thus altering Layla's party.

He saw them get chummier. Like, they were always together and involved in their Vortex, but they tended to pair themselves off now. So Layla probably went to a lot of the parties JJ threw at the beach house when she was in town. And she and Jordan most likely hung out together.

Jordan might have casually mentioned that he was gonna be a buffer between Layla and her dad at the Baker house, and he might have seen them together at Preach's thing the next day. And Layla, Jordan, and Liv went to the gym opening together, so again, he's discovering how close Jordan and Layla are becoming. He doesn't put any weight on it or think about it one way or the other, but there are a lot of opportunities for him to piece together.

She was there at the party at the beach house where everyone praised Jordan for his winning touchdown and Spencer's fire play. They most likely stuck by each other most of the night. And he was there when Jordan announced that he'd be accompanying Layla to the studio.

And jordayla had to have told everyone that they were stuck in her studio, hence the reason why they were absent. Then he finds out either from Liv or Layla that Jordan and Layla took a road trip to see Carrie. Because he didn't react when Layla talked about confronting her, so he knew what happened. And he had the final opportunity to notice jordayla spending time together at his apparel launch.

So... he's surrounded by potential moments. Not sure if he paid attention to all of them, but when it came down to cheering Jordan up, he knew exactly to ask.

To your second point, as fun as secret relationships can be with the hi-jinx of it all, I really respected this storyline. Layla's reasons for keeping things secret came from a really pure place. Once Jordan clarified that she wasn't ashamed of him and wasn't hiding him, they were able to treat their relationship with so much tenderness and care.

So I don't mind that Spencer and Liv didn't catch on until later. And everything about 5x09 was gold. I think Daniel's humor is severely underrated. And the scenes he had with Mike and Greta were just hilarious. I also thought Spencer's reaction and talk with Jordan after was very lovely.

Also, Liv finding out when she did worked beautifully for the moment. And I loved each one of her close calls with them beforehand.