#all that matters rwby

[lesboymetaknight]

The shows that awakened something in us.

[rwby-confess]

Honk mi mi mi zzzzz

Final prompt for Qrowin week 2024, I had fun drawing my faves even though I rushed through with these ♡

[lacependragon]

You know, the longer I think about it, the more I realize that it actually makes perfect sense that an online company so incredibly pro-military and pro-veteran (RoosterTeeth) would write the worst black-and-white, unbelievable, morally bland, and utterly boring and worldbuilding breaking anti-military story I've ever seen.

It's like they thought if they even slightly tried to make it realistic, even slightly tried to make it believable, we'd all realize how similar it was to the US military and go "you hate veterans!"

But instead we got a military that makes no sense. A story that relies on you not paying any attention to the worldbuilding. And a bunch of dead people who didn't mean anything because by the end they were just fucking caricatures. James is the evil general. Clover is the too-loyal right hand. Vine is the self-sacrificial meditative type. And they aren't anything else.

All of Atlas is flat and cardboard and cartoon-y and bad. And I genuinely think so much of it is the inability of these fuckers to stop sucking off the US military long enough to understand something called nuance. Because they fired so completely in the opposite direction to their on-camera shit (we love veterans! we love soldiers! fight the bad guys!) as opposed to RWBY (all military evil there is no nuance no middle ground nope just evil! James is as bad as SALEM!) that they lost every discussion and every interesting detail in the sprint between the two podiums.

This isn't the real world! We can have discussions about stuff we wouldn't approve of in real life but make interesting stories! We can have discussions about redemption and revenge and making choices!

But nah let's just have them all be evil evil people and then save Winter (maiden, sure), and Elm, Harriet, and Marrow (and I'm not going to lie here. I genuinely think the reason Harriet lives instead of Vine is because RT was TERRIFIED of another Sienna Khan backlash.)

Atlas was bad.

It was rushed. It was sloppy. It broke characters. It broke worldbuilding. It broke the internal logic of the universe.

And we still learned fucking nothing about its people, its culture, or its history. Just like in Mistral.

Setpieces. Empty destructible setpieces. Only this time there was nothing else to prop up the building facades.

Truly, the only good thing Atlas gave us was Penny.

And look how that turned out.

[tripp-pants-sora]

Crazy how especially in the earlier seasons RWBY would just casually drop some of the sickest fight scenes of all time on you just genuinely kinda out of nowhere and you just had to move on from that. Forget about the insane big raven kill fight. now we're back at school.

[angele-midnight]

Why are so many people on Tumblr/Twitter claiming Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are bad shows??? "They're not mid shows guys they're just bad" can y'all give me one concrete reason they're bad besides debunked "controversies" or things that other people told you were bad about em?

Like I'm halfway convinced all of these people claiming these are such bad shows and are annoyed about em haven't actually watched them - "I don't need to watch a show to know it's bad" pretty sure you do if you want to have an informed opinion, that goes for everything actually.

If you're annoyed by the hype and the fan culture?? That's fine we all got our things but that doesn't make the shows themselves bad I think y'all just like having someone to poke fun of without feeling like a bully and honestly?? That seems like a miserable way to live.

[strqyr]

either tai has nothing to do with the crown of choice or anything related to it, in which case he's at home with zwei all "this is fine."

OR

he does have something to do with the crown of choice, which immediately turns the mood into "[chuckles] i'm in danger" once there's nothing left of vale and patch is the next logical location to raze to the ground.

these are my two, completely serious, no joke options /j

[instruwen]

One of my fav songs from RWBY!

This is my 1st time doing a cover with multiple instruments, it was a fun challenge.

[little-lion-man-self-ships]

Small Vent

So fucking upset right now. Rooster Teeth is shutting down. Not a Rooster Teeth fan but I’m a HUGE fan of RWBY which is one of the shows they have and now I’m heartbroken cause RWBY may never be finished 😭😭😭

[yangfanbb]

Absolutely love this song 🖤💛

[fandomflotilla]

Things Beacon Students are No Longer Allowed To Do: Rule 52

52. The game “Jetpack Joyride” is now banned on campus.

52 a. Jetpack Joyride is now banned from being spoken of on campus. Stop telling freshmen the machine gun powerup is “based on real events” or “instructional”.

52 b. While we were all impressed by how high Ms Adel got, and it may eventually be a useful tactic against Grimm in specific situations, the method of testing she used was unacceptable. Anyone who tries to replicate her stunt is getting automatic detention and kitchen duty. (What on earth were you thinking???? You did so much damage, the Beacon repair teams are now on suicide watch, and you traumatized half of campus! Even with my semblance we could barely clean that mess up. - Prof. Goodwitch) (Okay, but you have to admit it was badass. - Coco) (You now have two more weeks of kitchen duty, Ms Adel. - Prof. Goodwitch) (…fuck. - Coco)

52 c. To all students: Recoil is not an acceptable form of aerial propulsion. (… - Ruby) (… - Yang) (… - Nora) (Glynda, could you please come to my office - Ozpin) (…*sigh* - Prof. Goodwitch)

52 c i. Edit: Recoil is not an acceptable form of aerial propulsion outside of training areas and combat. (Better? - Prof. Goodwitch) (Quite. Thank you Glynda. - Ozpin)

Extra Context:

In case anyone is wondering what on earth I’m referencing, here’s a clip from “Jetpack Joyride”

In case it’s not clear what Coco did, that is a machine gun strapped to his back.

[i-hear-a-sound]

not to be RWDE 😦but can I just… get something off my chest

the chunk of the fndm that scream about how progressive RWBY is and will go out of their way to harass anybody who says otherwise… 90% of the time are the same people who try & justify a fictional fucking child slave of a minority group being branded as property and blinded by his superiors because, yknow, he miiiiiiiight’ve deserved it, right?

[thepalestrose]

What are we gonna do? It just… feels like there’s a hole now. Fuck. I shouldn’t be getting this emotional over a cartoon.

Well, if there's anything the epilogue was about, it was about keeping hope in the darkest of times. So that's what I plan to do. Hope that this isn't the end, and that we'll see them again.

[rwby-confess]

Confession #89

[nightmare-foundation]

...I just realized.

After Oz reincarnates in Oscar.

He technically is actually 14 now

I mean. He's in the body of a 14 year old boy, one whose brain isn't fully developed yet, meaning he feels and processes things like a 14 year old boy would

That makes this whole thing so much worse. Ow

[nthmetalrose]

i took a break from rwby five years ago bcs of drama and bullshit both in fndm and in crwby writing. then i got into SG for all five of those yrs i was away and nothing in the world can tank so fucking HARD as cws writing/character death and absolute raving retarded stupidity that is sc fandom. so coming back to rwby?

its not bad actually

rwby is so barebones i can legit just grab what i want and do my own thing with fic or art, maybe make a small following outa that and have fun. i can read rewrites/canon divergence fics from people who are waaay more creative and into worldbuilding and have fun with their version and guess what!!!! its canon! bcs rwby is now part of dc and dc canon is arbitrary and everything and anything goes!!!

like if ya hate rwby/rt/crwby, valid, but like, why waste ur time and breath on raging abt it. just do ur own thing, make ur own hcs and aus and whatever the fuck at this point lol

[aknolan]

I think part of the discourse here really stems more from what kind of interpretation of RWBY's story you take away from the whole thing.

Your viewpoint is predicated on the idea that RWBY must completely prove the gods wrong, or it would be a disservice to the story's themes.

To me, however, a large part of the story is kind of a complicated mix, in that the villains and antagonists are PARTIALLY correct, but the issue is how they twist a kernel of truth into a means of abuse and control over domains that they don't really have any right to claim control over.

The Gods ARE correct that Life and Death shouldn't be treated carelessly, but they are consistently shown to be hypocrites who use it as a means to enforce their power over others.

Adam and Sienna WERE correct about the state of Faunus, but the former twisted the cause into satiating his own bloodlust and petty egotism.

Ironwood WAS correct that Salem needed to be known as a villain publicly in order to better combat her, but he refused to acknowledge that he wasn't that important and was twisted by Atlas' pro-conformity and fascistic culture into believing that he knew what was best for the world, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Jacques WAS correct that Ironwood was becoming as much of a danger to his country, but that was fueled out of self-serving greed and his own gain.

The recurring point that RWBY tends to follow is that the Villains are not people without a point, but that they use the point as a means to enforce unjust control and power over others.

But it doesn't make them completely wrong.

And the honest reality is; I think Penny not coming back is not inherently an incorrect or thematically wrong way of doing things, because ultimately she already PROVED that the Gods are full of shit.

She came back to life TWICE despite being killed.

The Gods have already been proven WRONG.

Her final death is just proof of something else; that even when you do everything right, even when you do manage to defy the expectations and possibilities laid out before you, bad shit can still happen anyways. It's literally what happened with Ozma dying from illness after he and Salem got together.

What happened to her last life was not the result of the story going against it's themes; it was just simply the result of poor choices on Penny's part and plain bad luck. That's it.

And Choices are just as much of a theme in the story, and poor choices or lack of choices are too.

The key is not in proving the Gods completely wrong, but in wresting control away from them so that THEY can't be the ones to dictate terms. They are NOT the arbiters of everything despite what the God of Light believes.

But that doesn't mean life and death will cease to matter. It'll still exist as the tragedy in someone's life.

I don't really disagree with you on like, 95% of this honestly.

I think it's helpful to recognize though, the wider context of the argument. In the simplest form, the fact that I am in that post responding to someone making the claim that Salem was at fault for what happened with the gods. So yeah, my argument there is about how she wasn't wrong for trying to get Ozma back, and Ruby wouldn't be wrong either for trying to get Penny back.

And yeah, life and death shouldn't be treated carelessly, but that's why it's important that this happens in Fairytale Bullshit Land, where Penny's Magic Aura Bullshit Body may have landed. These are very unique circumstances! This isn't gonna end up being a repeatable situation. They are incapable of treating life and death carelessly, and I'm sure that if they manage to bring Penny back with them, there will be a cost.

And the point of the gods has not been refuted yet. Not on screen.

Penny's revival happened off screen, and on the technicality that she wasn't actually dead. She was still on Remnant. Her core was intact, and that's why she could come back. Had she been completely destroyed, she would have been truly very dead.

And the situation with Ambrosius? She wasn't dead.

I consider this cheating death, rather than really being a proper "brought back from dying". Even disregarding that though... it's our protagonists who need to refute the villains.

Pietro revived Penny, team rwby cheated with the staff of creation. But Ruby making the active choice to bring Penny back would be a very clear message that she understands Salem. No moral high ground to keep there, on Salem's original problem with the gods. And when you have an unkillable enemy, that is desperately needed.

I also don't think Penny needs to die to drive home the message you put in bold. Plenty of things went wrong already, like losing both of the relics, and the "one way trip to Vacuo".

Lastly though, as long as the comparison between ruby/penny and salem/ozma exists, the elephant in the room remains as well.

If the comparison holds up... it's reasonable to interpret Ruby and Penny as romantically in love with each other, and then we get back to the writers wanting to avoid playing into the bury your gays trope.

Really though, a lot of what you say about complicated mixes of right and wrong are things I agree with. I also can absolutely see the sort of themes someone could go for with permadead Penny. But I take issue with it on several grounds, including that it feels a lot like fridging (except that the protagonist is also a woman this time, adding some bury your gays flavour). And, you know, I just like Penny and would like to think better of the writers than the fuck-up for her story that is the last three episodes of v8.

And that's just talking about the thematic stuff, not even the allusions or the things that don't add up.