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Do Aegon and Aemond show/have any personal interest in Rhaenyra because she exudes a nurturing presence, given that both seem to seek that type of comfort in their lives?
hmmmmmmmm.
For Aemond, in both books and show, i think the answer is no. I think Aemond is very just massively bogged down in this very black and white view of the world and unwilling to see shades of gray. Things that are part of the natural order and tradition are right and you must do anything and everything to keep things right; any wrong you do is forgiven because you are attempting to get back to The Correct Order. Any deviance from that order should be swiftly punished. And of course, he sees himself as the sole arbitrator of what is good and what is bad. This is why he's so fixated on Daemon; I think he sees Daemon's ability to be confident, to rise high, to remain influential despite being second born as incredibly impressive and wants to emulate it, but in The Good Way because Daemon Is Bad.
Aemond is play-acting at a story where he's the hero and Daemon is his shadow self and has tunnel vision; I genuinely don't think he thinks about Rhaenyra much at all beyond thinking of her as the Whore to his mother (and helaena's) Madonna. He doesn't think her of a mother any more than he thinks of her as a woman, really. She's simply The Enemy, simply Rhaenyra the Whore, the Cunny Queen.
For Aegon that's a bit more complicated. In the books, I think there's an implication there that Aegon has a bit of a latent fascination there. Most of his ire is directed at her sons and not Rhaenyra himself - he takes issue with Jacaerys dancing with Helaena, he fights with the boys during practice, etc - and the few bits of dialogue we get are often Aegon speaking about Rhaenyra:
Moreover, the prince at first refused to be a part of his mother’s plans. “My sister is the heir, not me,” he says in Eustace’s account. “What sort of brother steals his sister’s birthright?” Only when Ser Criston convinced him that the princess must surely execute him and his brothers should she don the crown did Aegon waver. “Whilst any trueborn Targaryen yet lives, no Strong can ever hope to sit the Iron Throne,” Cole said. “Rhaenyra has no choice but to take your heads if she wishes her bastards to rule after her.” It was this, and only this, that persuaded Aegon to accept the crown that the small council was offering him, insists our gentle septon.
Aegon II was two-and-twenty, quick to anger and slow to forgive. Rhaenyra’s refusal to accept his rule enraged him. “I offered her an honorable peace, and the whore spat in my face,” he declared. “What happens next is on her own head.”
“Sister,” he called down from a balcony. Unable to walk, or even stand, he had been carried there in a chair. The hip shattered at Rook’s Rest had left Aegon bent and twisted, his once-handsome features had grown puffy from milk of the poppy, and burn scars covered half his body. Yet Rhaenyra knew him at once, and said, “Dear brother. I had hoped that you were dead.” “After you,” Aegon answered. “You are the elder.” “I am pleased to know that you remember that,” Rhaenyra answered.
There's something here I think. An even more twisted version of Daemon's issues with Viserys, a sort of mirror to Viserys III and Dany. A fascination with her, at what might have been between them if they were a bit closer in age, if Viserys had been less stubborn and short sighted. There's a hatred here that I think is rooted in the fact that they could have married, that she could have been his. I suppose it's more of an implication than anything, but I do think that yes, Aegon is fascinated with Rhaenyra, drawn to her a bit, and some of his hostility towards her sons is this sort of "if she had married me they'd be trueborn and we wouldn't have this problem" idea, as a bit of a mirror to Daemon and Viserys being very aware that if Daemon was a girl they could have married.
The show is where, imo, you get into Aegon being attracted to her because Rhaenyra very much identifies herself as a Loving Mother to the outside world; she even specifically points to the rumors about her sons when she's talking to Mysaria as one of the points against her. The whole show is very focused on motherhood, especially (imo) on mothers and their sons; and again while Aemond's story is more preoccupied with his own mother, there's this implication between Rhaenyra and Aegon here. He feels like he can never measure up to Rhaenyra, who is perfect in every way - Viserys loved her more and of course he did because Rhaenyra is a kind mother to all her children, has a loyal husband willing to go batshit insane for her at a moment's notice, has this sort of easiness about her that he is incapable of emulating. During the dinner scene in season 1, there's several points where you can see Aegon clearly staring at her and Daemon. In the carriage scene with Alicent, he is very fixated on the fact that Viserys never liked him. Then, in season 2, a lot of his crumbling comes when he is unable to measure up to that Kingly Ideal (while Rhaenyra is in the middle of rising to it). There's that conversation with Larys where Aegon calls himself the realm's delight, which was what Rhaenyra is called.
I think not dissimilar to Daemon, Aegon has an incredibly hard time sorting through his feelings and drawing lines between different sorts of emotions. Married to one sister and deeply aware that he almost married the other. Constantly reaching out emotionally to a mother that is incapable of connecting to him despite her clear connection to Helaena (the sister he didn't want to marry) and her fondness for Rhaenyra (the sister he almost married). I think he looks at the way Rhaenyra's children and stepchildren all seemingly get along and support each other and feels like That Should Have Been Him. His longing is not for power but emotional intimacy, yet he is incapable of connecting to and understanding the vulnerabilities of the people he wants to be emotionally intimate with; he doesn't understand why his mother hates him for raping Dyana, he doesn't understand why Aemond hates him for all the teasing, he can't bring himself to connect to Helaena because he resents their marriage, he can barely bring himself to connect to his own kids! I think this deep longing for love really manifests itself as hatred towards Rhaenyra; the line between passion and hate is very thin after all!
#and like i don't think that first quote goes exactly that way- i think eustace is editorializing a LOT and aegon was likely#much less charitable. but i DO think there's some truth there that aegon who was known for being lazy was basically like#'let rhaenyra be queen what the fuck do i care' very similar to the show where he makes that 'viserys never liked me' comment#asks#akar3n#rhaegon
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Hey!!! Do you know why KNK don’t want to perform knock anymore? Personally is not my favorite song, but it seems that fans like it, is there a reason? thanks!
They said they don’t want to perform it anymore and that’s really the only reason they gave.
Perhaps performing the song reminds them of bad memories. Their goals and aspirations may have been different... back then, things were different. Not only that but the lyrics are... something else lol.
#replies#akar3n#if im not mistaken they haven't really performed gn either#so perhaps there are certain songs that they want to leave behind in the past
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do you have more AK militia headcanons??? pretty please ;)
Oh boy, don’t give my imagination that much power! Alright, as you wish. I could probably write the whole book from Jason’s perspective but I’ll try to be short and use some canon things:
Arkham Knight was giving speeches to the Militia (that’s canon), for the first one he was actually writing a speech because he didn’t want to mess it up, so he wrote it down like 50 times and rehearsed in front of a mirror and was quite nervous when he actually had to do it.
During training, Jason sometimes would have small competitions and for the winners he’d bring pizza. Sometimes he’d be a part of it and you can imagine, he got the damn pizza for himself.
When Jason returns to his hideout tired as hell, he’s too lazy to take off the Arkham Knight armour, so he just ends up falling asleep in it. He wakes up like an old man with back pains and whines a lot at himself.
Some of the Militia guys have dogs and Jason likes to play with them when everyone’s gone on patrols.
When one of the Militia boys falls asleep on duty and Jason finds out, he makes them piss themselves by shouting into comms. He also makes sure no one’s watching and then giggles at himself.
Militia themselves, when someone’s asleep, draws penises on their heads and when Arkham Knight catches them in the act… he just joins them and draws a more impressive one.
Speaking of the dogs, Jason sometimes can’t control his anger, especially when something goes wrong (that’s also canon), he tries really hard not to show it off, it doesn’t always work but sometimes he just goes to see the dogs and tries to calm himself down by talking to them. (I really like the idea of Militia dogs okay, why wasn’t that a thing?)
When Militia has stupid conversations (oh that is so canon), Jason sometimes interrupts them through comms and tells them he can fucking hear them.
When Militia spills drinks on their clothes or just gets it stained, Jason makes them walk in their underwear at the HQ until it gets washed.
Jason can be an ass to the Militia but if someone else starts doubting or insulting them, Jason doesn’t take that shit and defends them.
The Militia often plays music in the HQ and when Jason knows the song, he often hums it to himself.
Sometimes the Militia buys Jason food because they want to see his face but Jason just ends up taking it all back to his hideout.
One time a guy in the Militia was coming up with a bet and the loser was supposed to tell Arkham Knight that he’d look better in a cape (that’s canon), and Jason heard it, so he made the guy wear an ugly cape for a week
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yess!
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akar3n reblogged your post: time skips are hard hey is there anyone that...
Marvel/Shazam kids: Mary, Freddy and if possible Billy, you’ve done a beautiful job so far
thank you! considering they're canonically in yj, i probably should add them and donna troy anyway? i know some people who would enjoy that
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I quite like the idea that we’ll never really know for sure about the parentage of Jon and blueAegon — it’s nice to keep that ambiguity. I’m also perfectly fine with an open ending for most characters. I wouldn’t mind if Dany and the dragons also had a more nebulous conclusion.
yes, even though i'm in general a dark dany proponent i always leave the door open for "dany pulls a nettles and disappears from history forever" as an ending for her because i think an open ended finale for most of the characters really fits with the series. life goes on, this world continues when we close the book, and there are mysteries still left unsolved just as there are historical mysteries we may never concretely solve.
i think especially for House Targaryen And The Dragon Seeds, the idea of kind of going out with a whimper almost - no one knows the truth of Jon and Aegon's parentage, Dany just disappears - feels fitting.
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