#again there’s no pressure i am doing the doodles for funsies and don’t need anything in return ^^

[aroace-poly-show]

buahhhh a few people have asked for characters i like so. here’s a list. there is absolutely no pressure to do anything for me for christmas though btw. to be clear. just figured it’d be easier to have a post and give people options so here’s the official mono’s blorbo list 👍

pjsk: rui and wxs. of course. also a vbs and n25 fan. and i still haven’t read too much of their story but shiho and honami <3

omori: basil my dearly beloved. sunny and kel are my two other faves from the main cast

bsd: ranpo and q <3

vocaloids: VFLOWER <33333!!!!!!!

p5: futaba. beloved.

dr stone: gen and suikaaaa the sillies

[bogkeep]

I have an important question regarding Sevilsoleia! How was a suitable vessel decided? Is there anything in common with the, vessels they inhabited? Or did the vessels volunteer themselves or were they chosen?

OKAY SO......... okay so uh big disclaimer that iphimery is just a fun oc sandbox that i'm deliberately NOT turning into a writing/webcomic project or anything, like i MIGHT create stuff for it, but it's meant to be just this fun zone where i am not putting ANY pressure on myself to actively work out every aspect of the story or the worldbuilding. the reason for this is that i'm no good at active worldbuilding, and the idea of having to think every single detail and consequence through and through is very stressful to me and tends to halt my creative outlet. WHICH IS TO SAY i'm just making stuff up as i go. almost all of the ideas i get for this world or the characters happen almost accidentally - either because there's a specific trope or aesthetic i want to include, or because i buy a character design or dig up an old OC and just want to give them a place to live, and by adding them i add a new piece of the puzzle. but it is still very much a work in progress, and the lore might change down the road! here are the factors behind Swivel's existence from my narrative level: - timian, from the moment he existed, had to have a Repressed Trauma Tragic Backstory which would preferably include dead family members, survivor's guilt, being an incredibly proficient fighter, and an immense need to protect e v e r y o n e and put other people's needs above his own. think gregor hartway and kaladin stormblessed. - the concept of an android that can use her chestplate as a shield while exposing her core is something i doodled ages ago, but never found anywhere to include. UNTIL NOW. i had already decided to link her to Florence, and then i linked Florence to Iphimery, and then i just wanted to make her relevant to the "main story," as it were. all of this was in the slow cooker of my brain for a pretty long time. the fact that i realized florence is timian's uncle who immigrated to iphimery ages ago is also a fairly New idea. - i've also tried to think about the vibe of timian's hometown. i needed it to be a place that wasn't super big, in a way that most everyone knows everyone else to some degree, and i wanted it to have some kind of Tradition deep in its bones as well, that would be relevant to WHY disaster befell this town at all. at some point i got the idea that the main export of Sevilder is medicine made by local flora & resources, and a process that was a guarded tradition. this could explain why anyone would attack such a small town and why so much was sacrificed for it all. (just for funsies: in the modern setting, Sevilder is very traditional and religious - Sevilsoleia is worshipped and heeded as a deity, but they don't have a physical presence like in the fantasy setting! both the town and timian's family survive just fine, and timian moves to iphimery to attend the university. his backstory here is far less tragic, but he has an arc about coming from a small, tight-knit town with all the pros and cons that entails, and finding his place in a vast and messy metropolis. it's a story about exploring your identities and your wants while also reshaping and reaffirming your relationship with your religion and culture and traditions.) ALL OF THIS funneled into the Obviously Very Logical And Intuitive Plot Decision that "timian fable was the chosen guardian for the godly vessel that was his younger sister, rocks fall everyone dies except timian who carries the trauma with him for the rest of his life :)" so uh none of this has answered your actual question. mostly because it's a piece of worldbuilding i haven't had the chance to actually piece together yet. i can probably say that since the town wasn't The Biggest Town Ever, there weren't THAT many vessels to pick from for each generation. i do think Swivel ended up having a preference for what kind of people they liked working together with and that they thought were worthy of wielding their power and keep their knowledge. so there's probably several factors: - the family of the vessel, what their work was, their social status, etc., mostly relating to like, how close they are to the Tradition of sevilder, right - the willingness and determination of the potential vessel, like you can absolutely argue that even if a child is 10000% wanting to become a godly vessel, it's stilla choice they are making as a CHILD, so the ethical concerns around consent are. they're there. that's the narrative point here - ""pure of heart"" type bullshit. again, it's a child, this whole concept is Flawed and Weird and i want to poke holes at it - it probably doesn't have to be a child, but it's usually young people so swivel doesn't have to jump between old people super frequently (although they've probably tried lots of things over the centuries) i'm sure there's MANY MORE factors involved, including sevilder tradition lore that hasn't dropped yet. this question would be equally interesting about "how are the Chosen Protectors picked?" regarding how timian came to be who he came to be. i still haven't decided how much is Ancetral Duty, and how much is "im volunteering to protect my sister NO MATTER WHAT", or if it is traditional for siblings. stay tuned, i suppose!!!!

[comicteaparty]

August 31st, 2017 CTP Archive

The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on August 31st, 2017, from 5PM - 7PM PDT.  The chat focused on Alec in Wunderland by mintycanoodles.

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RebelVampire

Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning. Today we are discussing Alec in Wunderland by mintycanoodles~! (https://tapas.io/series/Alec-in-Wunderland) For those new to CTP, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer so pay them no mind if you wish~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! Each chat a top comment will be picked and featured on an ad for this chat, so let’s have a great discussion~! With that said, let us begin with this first question~!

QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?

Tenor

Not fair that's hard to pick xD

RebelVampire

ironically while i usually struggle with that one, this time i know. its the scene where hattie is talking to the dormouse about alec. cause i liked the end to it where the dormouse is like "bro you gonna have to pick one or the other" and then hattie was like "i know"

that was randomly kind of dark

Tenor

Legit tho, there's a lot of scenes I really liked for various reasons. The opening scene for example was an excellent start, really pulled me in and still was well written enough you know there's going to be more and it was less 'random' based based off Lulu's questions about making sure this kid who will be abducted won't be missed.

Oh yes, the dramatic orchestra suddenly played a lower key there lol.

So far anything with Dormouse has been just pure gold for me, I'm absolutely sold with that character I can't stand it.

mathtans

I iz here! My fave scene is when they're arguing and that one guard is running by and pauses like, wait, what's going on? So they say "We're lost" and guard dumps instructions on them. Felt true to the world and characters and all and I found it funny too.(edited)

Tenor

Oh yes, the comedy scenes have been great, too! xD

But I think maybe utmost favorite just because 'why not' would be Dormouse stabbing the rocks from the collapsed tunnel. Just, BABY WHY THAT ISN'T HOW THAT WORKS

mathtans

I'm a Lulu fan myself. ^^ I also like when she just pushed Alec into the hole after making sure he wouldn't be missed.

Tenor

Lulu's ears are so precious. I love how emotive she is.

RebelVampire

i like the little touch of how because Lulu is young she doesnt have the hang of portals yet. that struck me as a little nice character detail that works for the plot. because often i feel stories forget young people are not rando good at everything

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

oh it started and i read this week

RebelVampire

good job delta

Tenor

I think the pressure TO be good at a young age doesn't help, either, in those cases too.

mathtans

Yeah, that's true. There's a nice mix of ages with Hattie being older too.

Tenor

/ Waves

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i think my favorite scene would be when alec questions wether the orphanige is the better place to go back too

Tenor

It was a good question. /nod

RebelVampire

honestly cannot read that scene without picturing the caterpillar getting sassy

Tenor

Sadly I only know of Alice in Wonderland from Disney, I'm not versed in the books, or the other versions the creator is pulling from. So I don't know a lot of the references they may be pulling from so I'm curious how different everything is.

mathtans

Yeah - makes me wonder a bit if time is passing at the same rate in Wunderland? Like, the Alice thing supposedly didn't take much time at all when she returned.

Tenor

I picture the blue caterpillar with the Fairy Godmother's voice from the old Cinderella film <_< Not gunna lie.

mathtans

I read the "Alice" books but it was, like, 20 years ago. x.x

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

same Tenor

mathtans

Do we think there's a caterpillar for each region? I feel like that's a thing?

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

yeah i belive they said that

Tenor

There's concept for a green one I saw so I think so, yeah.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i think there 5 in all

RebelVampire

maybe? i mean theyre certainly all in diff regions but idk if theres only five regions

mathtans

Yeah, the green one is huge. I guess they're all kind of different.... maybe by the end one is a butterfly? ^.^

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i mean 5 catapillars

mathtans

Oh, I think there's 7 regions. (They were on postcards near the start... and I think on wallpaper that was linked to....)

RebelVampire

i know you meant the caterpillars. but im saying you cant have a caterpillar in every region if there are technically more regions

FONCreator the pun king

Fuck I can't remember uhhhhh.....

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

sup zac

FONCreator the pun king

Probably the whole introduction of it

Generic yes, but I like how it was handled

Tenor

Redd also lists the areas.

(I think it was Redd)

(Campfire scene -yanks open the comic-)

mathtans

Rebel - Yeah, I get what you're saying. Maybe there's 5 caterpillars and a couple butterflies. Or maybe some regions are kind of inhospitable (one's a desert).

Tenor

(Yes Redd, 7 total so eeey)

RebelVampire

two regions are just too cool to have caterpillars

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

or hot

Tenor

I'm curious what the roles the caterpillars play. And the Otherlander plays tbh. Since apparently they keep yanking those into this realm to see if they'll live or die /shot

RebelVampire

they gotta continue that alec/alice cycle yo(edited)

mathtans

Maybe it's a bit like chess, you just have to hit all of them in order to be crowned at the end.

RebelVampire

but i also wonder how canon those queen alice the first pics are

mathtans

Oooh yeah, the history! Like, previous people who weren't found worthy or who fled and such.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

yeah that looked like a staute straight out of the time burton version(edited)

Tenor

I'm curious on Alice, too.

Too much curious HNNNG need more updates xD

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

even had the vorpal blade in her hand

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

loves the fact that the creator puts hidden mickeys in the pages

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

WAIT REALLY(edited)

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

LOL

Tenor

I didn't even notice those until I read a comment that called it out.

mathtans

You got slipped a mickey.

Tenor

Then I had to go back- LOL

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

mat please

mathtans

Here's a thought, I wonder if there was someone before Alec who just kind of gave up, and is still living in the world now, and they meet him/her.

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I keep messing up the time and now I am ehre

RebelVampire

oh thatd be an interesting plot point

Tenor

Eyy~

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

i noticed that the catepillar said "i hope this one makes it" and automatically made me think "o no is there dead kids before him"

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I want to see a sea of dead kids but I think it's too lighthearted for that

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

LOL

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Or at least a graveyard

Tenor

I'm curious on the foreshadowing/call out about Redd not liking leaving people behind. <_< Curious what's happened there. /dundun dunnnn.

mathtans

Cali - Yeah, I had a similar thought, but then I figured maybe they didn't die they just gave up. Or went native or something.

Tenor

Oh lord.

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

a kid that fell into despair

Tenor

or insanity.

FONCreator the pun king

Yo this is a Wonderland story

Somehow

Tenor

Lets be honest you gotta come to terms with this place LOL

FONCreator the pun king

Someway

It'll get dark

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Good

RebelVampire

@math they couldve faked their death too. been like "haha now i can quit the trial" and then realized they couldnt leave

mathtans

Maybe Redd was left behind sometime. That's how he hooked up with Dormouse.

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

plot twist; previous kid is an antagonist

FONCreator the pun king

Zero to a hundred real fast I bet

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

And then all the callipillars bring out their hoookas and are like "Damm son, this again."

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

only just begun reading it lol

mathtans

Rebel: Oooh, that's an interesting prospect!

Tenor

GO CALI GO

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

omg redd and dormouse is adorable

Tenor

Dormouse is best captain.

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I also have an idea that the Hattie character has something to do with the previous children or even Alice

I wonder if Alice is the current queen

mathtans

I don't think she's current because didn't someone else take over? And put Ace in charge of where they're at now?

Hattie could be though. There were pictures of young Hattie at one point.

RebelVampire

do we even know if alice is canon tho? they could just be for funsies images

canon in the sense alice herself is semi in the story

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i don't think they ever hinted that the original story was canon(edited)

Tenor

No clue. I'd like her to be a more throwback, personally, rather than current queen but that's me.

FONCreator the pun king

I think Alice is canon from the Alec in Doodle land stuff

Gotta double chck

mathtans

We don't know. Could be the last person subjected to the trials was an artist and did paintings.

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Hmm plot twist, Hattie is the actual queen running from their job and someone else took their job and is making everything crazy

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

well her flashback did show her childhood was a wealthy one

FONCreator the pun king

That twist

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i was dissaponited she didn't have a hat when a child

Tenor

She had to grow into it I'm sure xD

AWH BUT BABY HATTIE IN AN UPSIDEDOWN TOPHAT

Babycarrier/crib lets go.

FONCreator the pun king

Yessss

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

more smol hattie is always good

Tenor

like 99% hair

all sticking out from the brim of the hat

mathtans

I feel like Hattie's too responsible to just up and leave if she was supposed to be in charge.

RebelVampire

maybe the magic is in the hat hence why she couldnt have it as a kid. cant let kids just play around with infinite hat powers

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I would laugh if the hat actually grew from her head

Like no hat, and then a hat sprouted from the head like poof, hat

mathtans

Seems kind of old hat to me.

Tenor

Go home LOL

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I'm so drunk but not drunk becuase Wonderland don't drink the potion

mathtans

Wunderland you mean?

RebelVampire

QUESTION 2. Throughout the comic it’s hinted that Alec has a larger purpose for being in Wunderland and is participating in some sort of trial. What do you think Alec is meant to do while in Wunderland? What does it have to do with finding the other Caterpillars? What happened to those who came before Alec?

mathtans

Maybe they'll eventually have a trial scene, like they did with the Queen of Hearts accusing the Knave of stealing the tarts in the original.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i think hes meant to bring proper choas, not this orderly crap handed out by royals

RebelVampire

if i assume alice being the queen at some point in the history is a thing, maybe these trials are so alec can become king of wunderland

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

that may be

RebelVampire

cause biological inheritance not crazy enough for wunderland

gotta decide rulers by trial

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

well its a better way than being born into it(edited)

Tenor

I kinda think the same? I do feel maybe Alice might be a hint that the royalty are otherlanders and the first can't leave until the next takes its place.

Which if you pull the Queen of Hearts into the idea from what I remember, Alice being a threat bc noooo I want to keep the throne /shot.

mathtans

So Alec marries Alice? This is a test to find the Queen a King?

Tenor

Oh I'm thinking replacements.

Though that could, too, work.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

maybe?

Tenor

Mine's a bit more dark in the idea that Wunderland doesn't have the same time-span as earth (or maybe Otherlanders are age-lessly immortal here) and Alice can't leave to go home until someone worthy can take her spot.

mathtans

Be interesting if Alice just went mad or something, so they need to get her help. The trials are to make sure her replacement doesn't go mad.

I don't see how the caterpillars fit though.

RebelVampire

yeah regardless of theories on the what im really confused about the caterpillars and what the point of visiting them is

like are they just gonna say hey thanks for stopping by

Tenor

Could still fit alongside it: Like, maaaaybe they want the system to end? Or, darker, they want Alice to stay, Alec to be king with her? Never leave gotta stay.

RebelVampire

its possible alice had a king sadly cause one of the pics she was in a portrait with some guy

mathtans

The caterpillars seem to be evaluating Alec? Like the blue one tried to make sure he really wanted to be there... the green one might wonder if he... eats his veggies...?

Tenor

LOL

Rebel: True, I forgot that!

RebelVampire

https://tapas.io/episode/336206

oh LOL

title is even literally her consort

i have killed a theory

rip

im so sorry

Tenor

-hand over mouth-

That looks like Hattie relative.

mathtans

It's just "Portrait of a Queen" not "Portrait of Alice".

Could be the Queen of Hearts.

RebelVampire

but that is definitely alice cause of a different picture XD

Tenor

There's a picture later that's called Alice the First

mathtans

Ahh, okay.

Tenor

or earlier -looks-

https://tapas.io/episode/381442 Queen Alice the First

mathtans

Too many Queens! (That's a thing in the original, because you get the Chess Queens too.)

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

huh

RebelVampire

unless the queen of hearts and alice are related

or alice is the queen of hearts in this version

Tenor

Could be.

mathtans

The White Queen!

Tenor

Either way can't unsee the consort looking like Hattie now so I'm doomed.

RebelVampire

OH YEAH i forgot that was a character

mathtans

Who lives backwards!

Tenor

Especially since the photos of who may be mom looks less like Hattie <_<

RebelVampire

nah i thought that too. that the consort looks like hattie so i assume its the "original" mad hatter(edited)

mathtans

Oh, that's clever.

Tenor

Alice/Hatter ships are pretty common too so maybe. <<

RebelVampire

plot twist: not even. just some random dude

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

fuckin randy

Tenor

I'll cry LOL

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

is caught up now

Tenor

My heart's set now xD

EYY

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

I REALLY LIKE THIS COMIC SO FAR

RebelVampire

good job cali

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

ITS SO CUTE

i have mixed feelings on the "PROTECT IMPORTANT PERSON VS SAVE FRIEND" thing

mathtans

Lulu for the cute!

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Wait the queen and the consort.....

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

lulu is adorable

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

HATTIE BEING NEXT QUEEEN THEORY MIGHT BE TRUE

Tenor

Depending on why the important person needs protected, I can understand why but yeah, not an easy choice. THEN AGAIN THEM LITERALLY GOING TO GET LULU WOULD HAVE FIT THE FAKE PRISONER PLAN A LOT BETTER JUST SAYIN xD

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

i can totally see the 'alec becomes king' thing

Tenor

But, y'know, one of their main tacticians stabs rocks with a scimitar so /shot

mathtans

I like the little explanations put in too, like how Lulu can't do her portal thing unless she's on ground.

FONCreator the pun king

Yee I can see that thing happening too cal

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

everytime i see the name alec my brain keeps wanting to say alex

RebelVampire

to be fair to their strategy/tactician skills, a guard did question nothing and was like "oh here let me tell you how to get to everywhere in this place"

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

well her portals are rabbit holes

Tenor

Every time I see Alec I see Mandy from Billy and Mandy now thanks to the Halloween special so, fff.

mathtans

Maybe Alec doesn't become King, but he has to be the one to choose the ruler? Like, between Hattie and someone else? They need to test for heart purity to make the decision.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i see that too Tenor

Tenor

Rebel: Yeah but they didn't know that when they built their plan that a guard was a jabberjaw. xD

FONCreator the pun king

True true

Tenor

(Presh button guard too hnnn)

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

alec also totally looks as if he'd be a sibling of rose lalone/dave strider

of homestuck

too

Tenor

Never read it so no idea but I know some comments mentioned it so eeey

Skeleton Honey

I love homestuck

mathtans

I liked how it was totally lucky that they talked to the guard though. Like, he was just running by and "wait, what?".

Skeleton Honey

Excited for hiveswap this september

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

haha i really like that guard they ran into too

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

skelly please this is about a different comic

Tenor

YEAAAH I Screamed at the girls arguing in that panel, too

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

"OH YOU GUYS LOOK TOTALLY TRUSTWORTHY HERES ALL THE DIRECTIONS"

Tenor

"NOW IS NOT THE TIME GIRLS"

Skeleton Honey

Sorry

Tenor

"LADIES - PLEASE"

RebelVampire

now is always the time for arguing

its part of the masterplan

Tenor

Apparently lmao.

mathtans

They did have to knock him out in the end.

RebelVampire

cause if they get arrested for real theyre sure to find Lulu!

Tenor

TRUE.

mathtans

Rebel: Truth.

Tenor

Well sorta, apparently she's in process of getting moved.

mathtans

But they might miss the caterpillar.

Tenor

Omg that would blow tho - get caught, tossed in the cell, as your friend is getting dragged off

... if her teleporting only works when she's on the ground she has to be carried omg.

mathtans

Well, I figured "ground" was like "earth" so if she's on wood or stones it wouldn't work.

Tenor

That'd explain why she hasn't poofed in the cell actually, good point <_<

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

maybe there needs to be a set ammout of matearil below where the portal has to appear for it to work

FONCreator the pun king

good point

mathtans

If she was upside down with earth above her, would it work?

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

so many questions

RebelVampire

since were on the topic of Lulu, i noticed the ace of spades mentioned that they didnt "think there were anymore white rabbits." does that mean there was a white rabbit genocide? O_O

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

seems like it

or maybe they just left

Tenor

Well if people keep wanting a pocket rabbit for teleporting for world domination, yeah they'd probably die out.

FONCreator the pun king

Probably yeah

The white bun must be protected at all costs

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

yes

mathtans

Wow. Hum. I missed that. Maybe I thought it just meant they all dyed their hare?

Tenor

FFF-

RebelVampire

math plz

thatd be really high maintenance

FONCreator the pun king

XDD

I mean they could've

mathtans

Srlsy though, maybe they're undercover.

Tenor

that would suuuuuuuuck

at the same time imagine an old one in a wagon

traveling sloooowly across the lands

bitching the entire time because he can't teleport or he'll get found out.

mathtans

Maybe they're all in the Otherland looking for recruits.

Tenor

Or just having said "F-Wunderland"

RebelVampire

i think you mean looking for children to kidnap

FONCreator the pun king

XD

Tenor

FFF-

mathtans

That too.

In her time off, Lulu likes to find Lemons.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

kidnap recriut, its all semantics

FONCreator the pun king

xD

RebelVampire

but now i just picture some rabbit standing on the corner being like "Sir, sir! How would you like to experience a land of adventure, magic, and should I say....wunder? Our location is actively looking for recruits to try out our new activities!"

FONCreator the pun king

xDD

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

no they take kids

"hey wanna go a magic adventure"

Tenor

Omg.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

"just hop down the hole"

mathtans

With discounts at Lulu Lemon.

Tenor

Comes off a like a peddling con man.

RebelVampire

"Hey kid get in the portal thats not a white van"

QUESTION 3. Wunderland is not only large, but seems to have its own complicated political system in place (example: the Queen of Diamonds installing her own tyrannical Ace to rule the Land of Rain). Do you think this sort of political conflict will play into the plot? If so, how? Do you think the other suits have their own rulers and various subordinates? Do you have any other thoughts about the world itself?

FONCreator the pun king

Depending on the author's skill I'd say its highly possible

Its a very interesting take on Wonderland so far, it ain't as dark as it has been adapted as most of the time

mathtans

It's all a ploy by the Jokers.

FONCreator the pun king

Its rather cutesy/lineless artstyle helps it stand distinct

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I like the artstyle a lot as well

and also I need to head off to get to work so I hope you guys have fun with the rest of the CTP

FONCreator the pun king

Its very much similar to Samurai Jack and The X's

Tenor

I think it's already potentially showing in the plot. They've taken over a location important to the green caterpillar based off the information in chapter 2. I DO hope there's other rulers, as I like to imagine the 'cards' as houses in particular - gotta follow who holds the seat but everyone wants theirs in head.

RebelVampire

thanks for coming feather~!

FONCreator the pun king

And alrighty Duke

Tenor

Bai Feather~!

mathtans

I didn't even really notice the lineless thing. It's subtle.

FONCreator the pun king

Yeah looking more into it, its not THAT lineless, but it gives the feeling of it

Tenor

The amount of lineless reminds me of papercraft

FONCreator the pun king

It also helps fit with the background, but not be too bleneded in

Tenor

Lineless where it would be 'cut' but otherwise lines to give depth, and I really like that feeling

Yeeees

FONCreator the pun king

Once again like Samurai JAck, but with more lines that are darker shades of their colors

Tenor

I haven't seen Samurai Jack in so long I honestly wouldn't be able to picture it unless I look it up lol

OTL

FONCreator the pun king

But SJ's lines mainly came from helping seperate things like fingers, heads and such

So its not just an abstract mess

Tenor

-Nod-

mathtans

There must be some order to it. The spades were designated green. (Wait, why does the Ace of Diamond have spades working for him? There must be a hierarchy then?)

RebelVampire

yeah there has to be a hierarchy going on. which we can at least assume that the aces are under the royal cards albeit idk where jacks would fall

FONCreator the pun king

Perhaps

If there is a hierarchy, then hearts/diamonds must be on the higher up scale

Clubs and spades being the lackeys

mathtans

It's usually jack-queen-king.

Tenor

Considering the power shift from Hearts to Diamonds in that case would imply lots have changed.

FONCreator the pun king

yeah

mathtans

If we're playing bridge, the order is clubs-diamonds-hearts-spades-noTrump.

Diamond uprising?

FONCreator the pun king

Once again depends

We don't know the full story yet

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

always political upheaval in these settings

RebelVampire

it could just be the suits trade around tho. so the the kings and queens just trade around the lesser cards regardless of suit.

FONCreator the pun king

True

mathtans

They have draft picks.

Tenor

FFF-

mathtans

(Daft picks?)

(Daft punk picks?)

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

yes

thats where you pick your favorite songs from them(edited)

RebelVampire

but maybe in the case of the queen of diamonds installing her own maybe its implied that this ace is a spade but in the queen of diamonds' pocket and the king and/or queen of spades is none the wiser

mathtans

I like the idea of trading around though, it's possible. There's also Anchors and Crowns in the extended card decks.

Or maybe they are the wiser but don't care.

RebelVampire

are like eh

just the forest ppl

they suck

mathtans

There is that underlying thread of darkness, so it's hard to say for a lot of things, could go either way. ^^

RebelVampire

i still dont understand what the caterpillars' role is tho @_@

Tenor

To hide their hookahs from the rest of the world.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

maybe the catapillars are like sages here...kinda like the original

mathtans

I think it's some sort of evaluation? Like they're the judges somehow? They test willingness and strength and stuff like that.

FONCreator the pun king

Give it time

mathtans

Green seems very large. I wonder if Green was always like that or if it was something they ate.

Tenor

Considering the concept I saw I thought the green caterpillar was just using magic to summon a golem type of thing.

But if they can transform that's cool too

mathtans

Ohh, that could be.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i feel like the size has to do with the ace fucking up the forest

mathtans

I admit I'm not that into politics, real or imagined.

RebelVampire

thats okay math

there is a question i want to pose but i need to find the scene to verify

Tenor

I believe in you

mathtans

There was the robbing of that stagecoach. So again, implies people in power and people not.

RebelVampire

ok so the question i want to pose is that when alec sees the blue caterpillar he gets told that if he stays hell find what hes looking for. alec asks what is it hes looking for and just gets told he has to figure that out. so what is alec looking for and why is finding the caterpillars supposed to help with that?

FONCreator the pun king

Because plot convience

Tenor

Caterpillars may be a goal post. Could be a metaphor of "you'll find yourself" through going through these trials, and by finding himself he'll be able to find WHAT it is he wants in life - assuming the caterpillar doesn't already know ofc.

Random option, Alice adopts him rather than he becomes king because he's an orphan and most orphans want families.

FONCreator the pun king

But really I think its because it could be parraleling the actual Alice with Alec having to findhimself like Tenor said

Tenor

(typically)

mathtans

What we're all looking for, a purpose? I'm not sure the caterpillars will necessarily help but the journey might, and I still think they're testing his suitability somehow.

FONCreator the pun king

And finding the caterpillers could be something they told him to do to kick his self discovery journey into gear

mathtans

Or a family, true.

RebelVampire

maybe hattie adopts him instead

mathtans

There's possibly a metaphor in that too. Using caterpillars. Who grow up to be butterflies.

RebelVampire

and alec, hattie, and lulu live a happy family life together(edited)

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

that would be nice rebel

FONCreator the pun king

yee

Tenor

That'd be cute too, Rebel.

Much potential for cute. :D

mathtans

Until the dark times came upon them all.

RebelVampire

part of me feels like telling him that was more just a ploy to get him to stay. cause him passing this trial seems important to them so i highly doubt if he self discovers anything itll matter to them

mathtans

He may discover the power to rule them was in him all along.

Or something. RebelVampire

the way you worded that made me think he becomes a tyrannical dictator XD

QUESTION 4. Given this comic is a retelling of Alice in Wonderland, which characters are you interested in seeing in this version? What role do you think some of these yet to be seen characters will play (assuming they do appear of course)?

FONCreator the pun king

Jabberwocky, Queen of Hearts, and Dee and Dum

mathtans

I saw someone mention the Cheshire Cat in comments and the author was vague about it. I played the CCat once in a play. ^^

FONCreator the pun king

Forgot if Dee and Dum were already introduced or not

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i'm curious to see when the cheshire cats comes out

Tenor

Cheshire Cat for me, too, as he was the only prevalent one I remember growing up.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i don't there were introduced zac

mathtans

Funny thing is how the White Rabbit and the March Hare have kinda been rolled into one character in Lulu? There could be hybrids also.

FONCreator the pun king

True true

Chesire Cat might be a baddie merged with somethig else RebelVampire

i have another vote for cheshire cat. got have the creepy teleporting with a smile going on.

FONCreator the pun king

Could be a great rival to Lulu

If they teleportation is kept

*the RebelVampire

the cheshire cat may at least be a neutral baddie cause generally depictions have the cheshire cat never pick sides. is just there to cause chaos

FONCreator the pun king

true

Even still

with the chesire cat potentially being brought in

maybe certain colored animals can teleport or have dimensional abilities

They did specifically mention they didn't think "White Rabbits" were still around

So maybe Chesire Cats are the only cats who can teleport

again, if chesire cat comes into play

Tenor

I don't think the Chesire Cat can teleport others versus just itself tho? Then again it being a being of nuetral chaos who knows it's potential abilities. <_<;

mathtans

Maybe it's a Kitty. Smol Cheshire.

Tenor

So long as I get to see it fade with random body parts around I'll be happy tbh lol

FONCreator the pun king

yee

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i wonder if the jabberwock is still around, cuase the staute of the queen had her with the vorpal blade

RebelVampire

i want there to be a plot point where lulu messes up the portal again and all alone alec bumps into the cheshire cat. cause then alec is helpless to the chaos. but then hattie and lulu come to save the day and lulu lectures CC

Tenor

I'm sure it'll be an alone-meet up at first, for sure.

Everyone probably thinks Alec is crazy bc that thing should be dead due to age or something but it's really alive and well driving people batty

FONCreator the pun king

yee

mathtans

The Mock Turtle could be fun. Maybe instead of being a fake turtle he mocks people.

RebelVampire

thatd actually be kind of interesting if the cheshire cat was just super immortal

FONCreator the pun king

oh yee

mathtans

Our school put on "Wonderland" a couple years ago. The guy playing the Mock Turtle somehow nailed the inflection. Didn't really talk slow, but you kinda felt like he was.

Tenor

I can't remember any of these characters xD

mathtans

The puns are good with that character.

Tenor

OH LORD

mathtans

"How many hours a day did you do lessons?" "Ten hours the first, nine the next and so on." "How curious." "That's the reason they're called lessons, they lessen from day to day."

RebelVampire

no omg LOL

it hurts

Tenor

kajshdklJAHS

BAD. LOL

mathtans

Most of the Mock Turtle dialogue is like that.

RebelVampire

and its okay Tenor im only really familiar with the disney alice in wonderland and i actually dont even like that movie.

mathtans

Would drive Alec nuts.

FONCreator the pun king

xDDD

I wanna be the mock turtle

Tenor

I can't remember it enough

mathtans

You'd be good at it, FON.

Tenor

I remember liking the Hatter and especially cheshire cat.

And the uhm, dark Alice game's cheshire cat

(Never played it but I had the script read to me and I really liked that version too)

So yeah, really eager to see Alec's translation of the character

mathtans

"If a fish came to me and said he was going on a journey, I'd say 'with what porpoise?'." "Do you mean purpose?" "I mean what I say."

Anyway.

RebelVampire

so do all fish in wonderland have to take journeys with porpoises? important question here

mathtans

I feel like we might get chessboard action too from "Through the Looking Glass", I seem to recall reading an author comment there somewhere.

Rebel: I don't know. Seems fishy to me.

RebelVampire

math no. the chat so saturated with puns now its going to leak

FONCreator the pun king

xDD

Come on, there never be tuna much

RebelVampire

so as a random insert, i like that alec is really practical in a sense compared to other renditions of alice ive seen

Tenor

I think it's a reflection of how times have changed too/their backstory.

mathtans

That's true! Well, also a bit stubborn for walking around on that path and nearly falling off a cliff.

Tenor

Like the Disney Alice was just a well todoish girl bored with her studies.

Screw going around the puddle we'll walk through it LOL

mathtans

Alec follows the rules.

RebelVampire

yeah and disney alice was also....just kind of innocently accepting. whereas alec meets the first caterpillar is like "ummm i was kidnapped wtf is going on"

FONCreator the pun king

Hmmm, maybe this story is about Alec learning that sometimes rules need to be broken and things need to be questioned

mathtans

Oooh, I like that FON.

I don't recall the Disney all that well. I mostly remember the one our school put on those few years back. ^^

Do you think we'll leave Redd and Dormouse behind after this part of the quest is done? New characters every setting?

RebelVampire

i hope redd stays a perma member to be honest

redd a good bro

and cause i could see dormouse being like "redd youre fired"

XD

mathtans

Yeah, he seems to have a good attitude and a past it would be good to learn more about...

He did run off with Alec without permission!

(...someone's probably on board with that ship.)

RebelVampire

gets on board the ship even tho i wasnt but why not sail all the ships create an armada

but yeah im gonna be sad if redd going off with alec doesnt have further significance

Tenor

Redd seems to really care about Alec/the situation so who knows.

mathtans

Oooh, maybe Redd was a former person subjected to the trials? That's why he doens't like leaving people behind.

Tenor

I hope Dormouse sticks around even if it's for selflish reasons.

mathtans

Couldn't have been recruited by Lulu though, or Hattie would know him.

RebelVampire

yes i accept this as headcanon for redd now.

well to be fair

hattie mentions the last trial was like 10 years ago

so even hattie wouldve only be 20 i believe

mathtans

Ahh, possible.

Tenor

And depending on Lulu's age she might not have been involved.

RebelVampire

i think one of the things said lulu is 17?

FONCreator the pun king

Yeah Lulu's like 17-18

RebelVampire

and alec is 14 i remember that

mathtans

Yip. In human years anyway.

Tenor

-NOd-

RebelVampire

but yeah it could work cause hattie and lulu couldve just been too young to recruit

mathtans

Maybe things were less dire back then.

(I mean, I guess so, Green was easier to get to.)

FONCreator the pun king

Alrighty ^^

Can't wait for the next one

Tenor

THIS WAS FUN :D

RebelVampire

yeah that could be

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