#acotar subreddit

[thefatesofspring]

I can not deal with these DELUSIONAL people!!

So now we’re saying ANDRAS isn’t worthy of being called a fae…SOMETHING HE WAS BORN AS just because Tamlin shapeshifted him into a wolf!!! Be so fucking for real!!!😭😭

Shes really saying that it’s not ✨murder✨ because it was an animal…when I swear poaching laws were a thing in the mortal lands??!!!

So because Andras was turned into an animal it cant be ✨murder????!!!!✨because Feyre didn’t have all the information on whether Andras was a fae or not it can’t be murder??!! Only manslaughter?!!! Can you imagine a poacher or…I dunno…a MURDERER using that excuse in court😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

And apparently we are now viewing Tamlin glamouring the rest of his court for FEYRE’s SAKE as a bad thing & a form of gaslighting & manipulation😭😭😭 y’all I fucking can’t with these delusional hoes

Apparently Tamlin never even treated Feyre as a companion let alone an equal & he also isolated her…the same Tamlin that told Feyre in BOOK 1 that she was free to do as she pleased across the 7 courts just as long as she didn’t go back over that wall…the same Tamlin that offered Feyre the title of High Lady FIRST at the end of BOOK 1…the same Tamlin that introduced Feyre to his courtiers in a respectful, dignified & classy way instead of like a harlot like a certain other high lord??…the same Tamlin had gave Feyre her own throne to sit on at the tithe??…the same Tamlin that offered to teach Feyre how to read & write??…the same Tamlin that loved Feyre so much he just wanted to keep her safe when she was determined to get herself killed by saying she’ll follow him & his sentries??…😭😭😩😩🤣🤣🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

BREAKING NEWS: Tamlin stans blame Ianthe for *checks notes* something she did!

🙄

[yaralulu]

The acotar subreddit is actually hilarious sometimes.

[sadiegirl2021]

The ACOTAR subreddit admins are so pro E/riel that they locked a thread that was defending Gwyn from the evil Lightsinger theory stating ship wars even though no one in the comments (E/riels or Gwynriels) said anything about their ships!

How come it's okay to have a million threads about Elain theories and the one about Gwyn is locked!

[gwandas]

0 days without a “do any of you like the books anymore” post in the acotar subreddit

[rin-u-pos]

Do you think Tamlin is a weak high lord? Like objectively.

[shadowsatdawnx]

i do find it very funny that several of the el*ingrate folks tried to post about it in the acotar subreddit only to have the post deleted and their comments removed

[dragneel-brothers]

Sjm reddit

Acotar: ship wars, nesta/feysand/tamlin

Tog: can I skip ___, what order to read, does it get better

Cc: hofas, bryce in cc3, what is sunball

[toast-com]

the High Fae have really long, pointy ears. their ears are ridiculously long and pointy, they move and everything.

[astrababyy]

I feel like this take doesn’t understand nuance of Cassian or what happened in ACOSF between them.

Cassian grows and learns better ways of interacting with Nesta and that’s how they fall in love. It isn’t fair to hold Cassian to who he was at the beginning and not take any of his growth into consideration. The hike is a great example of this. He starts out doing it the mean Rhys way but realizes that he needs to do it the Cassian way. He ends up holding her and helping her overcome her current crisis. This was so cathartic for me and beautiful and completely underrated.

We allow Nesta growth and Cassian should be allowed this as well.

As for Cassian only wanting her sexually and not liking her personally…that’s just a bad take. He can get angry and frustrated with her without it being that he doesn’t like her. He shows us over and over again that he cares for her. It’s really hard to love someone like Nesta who is continually hurting him.

the reddit responses to this were so bad lmao. these people are so far up cassian’s ass it’s embarrassing.

also, maybe these people should ASK before they repost someone’s shit.

ANTI NESSIAN

The short of it:

ACOSF romance sounds like an incel revenge fantasy where the man gets to punish and fuck the woman who rejected him and mold her into a copy of the woman his role model/best friend/ alpha daddy is fucking.

The long of it:

I don't like when women's fear, anger and rejection is taken as a challenge.

Every now and then I wanna read ACOSF, tell myself I'll just ignore the Cassian stuff and eat around it, you know? Then I see canon Nessian interactions and I gag.

I don't know if it's because I don't read dark romance so I haven't been exposed and numbed to the truly heinous things authors are doing in their romances but I can't.

I'm just gonna sit back down in my anti Nessian seat cause it was never my favourite dynamic to begin with but it's to the point I can't even read fanfic bout them anymore (and I'm missing out on some good shit!)

I've read love interests who are mean to everyone BUT their intended partner.

I've read love interests who are mean to everyone INCLUDING their intended partner.

But a love interest who is ONLY mean to his intended partner?

I use the word mean very loosely here.

And maybe it wouldn't be so bad if him constantly pushing her to react or getting in her space didn't include or was immediately followed by super sexual thoughts or intention. That shit is predatory.

Earlier Nessian walked a fine line and I was even willing to move past that awful ACOWAR tent scene but ACOFAS? Cassian doesn't have to be perfect or nice on his own, as a character, but he might as well have thrown the idea of Nessian in the Sidra.

The combo of

wanting Nesta sexually but not liking her personally

having an inferiority complex about himself that he projects onto her interactions with him

History of a high born woman using him and finding a symbol of that same type of woman downtrodden and vulnerable

Having that woman entrusted to his "guidance and care" by almost everyone without question

Confirmation through a magic bond that she was literally made for him, belongs to him and would be best to bear his children (GAG)

Him using his position as her "carer and guardian and authority figure" to punish her on behalf of a man (and group) he desperately looks up to and wants to please

Him molding her to meet the requirements in order to be accepted by said man and group even when it goes directly against how she's expressed she wants to live.

Him molding her to mirror the wife of the man he looks up to

It feels like if this was set in the Victorian period he'd have had her lobotomized and locked away if she didn't correct her behaviour to him and his friends' standards.

Like can you imagine your (already deteriorated) well being signed off to a man who tells himself he loves you but doesn't act like it? wants to fuck you to prove he's good enough to everyone else? Is basically best friends with ACOTAR Elon Musk?

It sounds like an incel revenge fantasy.

And how is several people physically barring someone who is clearly using sex as a coping mechanism from having sex with anyone but this one guy not a weird coercive thing? Like you're taking advantage of her, I'm so disgusted.

All this without even mentioning the 500 year age gap and power imbalance and imprisonment and sense of extreme isolation and lack of mental health care etc etc

[lettheskyfallletitcrumble]

To sum up the ACOTAR Subreddit:

Characters who have been assholes their entire 500 year old lives are sweet misunderstood angels.

3 human sisters turned fae that haven't even turned 30 made some mistakes that aren't even a fraction as bad compared to their fae counterparts are unforgivable demons.

Fuck off.

[lullabesstie]

A while ago when sjm did the today interview, I posted the interview on the acotar subreddit. The last slide was a screenshot of “in the bonus chapter Az was drawn to Elain and another character named Gwyn” I instantly got downvoted and all the comments were so angry saying “ it’s not sjm😡” And then I said okay I just posted the whole interview and this line is a part of the interview too i’m not gonna cut it out? they were soo angry and kept downvoting me 😭😭 then my post got deleted for “shipping”💀

then months later when the article that said “many fans suspect Elain and Azriel stories” dropped. Someone posted it on the sub and all the comments were happy because it’s “confirming the ship” and the post is still up and did not get deleted💀

Like the funniest thing is that all the comment were happy about the “soft launching” and the least voted comment was someone saying “it’s not a confirmation”💀

my post got deleted for “shipping” even though I included the whole interview. this person post that only had the Elain and Azriel part did not get deleted. what I posted was “incorrect information” because it’s not from SJM, but the one that says fans suspect is from SJM?

++++ I even once posted a post saying why my posts are getting deleted for shipping even though they have nothing to do with shipping, they deleted the post and said connect the mods and when I did they never replied 💀💀 any theory that could threaten E/lriel or go against their theories, they instantly get rid of them.

[yaralulu]

If I see one more “I’m on chapter 2 of acosf and I still don’t like nesta” reddit post I’ll actually lose my shit.mf you’re not even a quarter way through this 80 chapter book,stop posting on reddit and go finish it before posting about how you “ still don’t like nesta” 😄!!

[sadiegirl2021]

The acotar subreddit is so anti Valkyries/anti Nesta/anti Gwynriel. The downvotes for mentioning them is crazy. I hate it over there!!

[gwandas]

this is gonna sound a little mean but acotar stans will be like “idk… is it just me or is eris maybe not a bad guy? am i crazy?” as if he doesn’t have the most obvious redemption arc set up ever

[devi1sange1]

I swear I only have fun on the ACOTAR subreddit when I’m surrounded by Elriels.

It was nice to see a post about the bonus chapter that appreciates Azriel’s horny instead of vilifying him for it. A post that got a decent amount of attention too. People actually having fun discussing the bonus chapter when people are usually debbie downers about it.

[pinkrasberryfish]

Maybe I can rejoin the ACOTAR subreddit now that there seems to be a strong defense of Elain in that hellscape??? New admins or something ??