#Vivziepop is going to have to answer a LOT of questions after my new video is out this year... that's for sure.

[woomycritiques543]

-and before people say:

"WHAT IF THIS WAS AN ANIMATION ERROR?!"

Just know, that they would have to draw the horns- LINE BY LINE!

Even the eyelashes (the feminine aspect) was taken away.

All of the feminine or female (the horns) parts were taken away and they made the character entirely cis passing, and in order for the episode to come out- Vivziepop would have had to examine almost every shot to make sure things went smoothly.

Even other comments just outright said "DID SHE KEEP HER DICK- OR NAH?!" Like- it's so creepy?!

I get being attracted to a trans girl, but when it comes to the point where she's constantly sexualized by the staff and fans alike. -and the fact that Vivziepop supported a transphobe willingly but then lied about it in her apology, even after mentioning the tweets that she apparently "didnt" see, but did, as shown here:

When she did- she DID see the tweets that she's pretending that she didnt see, and just to make it worse- she defended the tweets and called transphobia a "IMPORTANT POLITICAL DISCUSSION!" and "not" something that shouldnt exist in the first place-

Which is TRANSPHOBIA!

-and racism! Something Vivziepop was very much familiar with at the time, but excused anyway behind the scenes by saying that stereotypes (including black ones!) were just "hyperbole!" and "not" something that could legitamately cause someone harm.

-and these comments are far from outdated, since she hired Brandon Rodgers, a influencer who thrives off of anti black and fatphobic content. Each of his videos, either mentioning how "GROSS" someone is for being plus sized, or some black stereotype of some kind EVERY SINGLE time he has a black actress in the video.

The women in his videos that arent played by him arent even given any actual roles most of the time- they're just objectifed are used to represent women in the most degrading ways possible!

Look at the difference: Look at the fucking difference.

So clearly, Vivziepop very much is still ok with stereotypes when she hires people, for her "progressive brownie points!" show that also thrive off of anti blackness and fatphobic stereotypes!

IT'S AWFUL!

[candieddemon]

I watched Michael Knowles video on Hazbin Hotel so you don't have to.

I have sectioned off this post so you can just read the funny bits (in bold), there's a warning in the second paragraph, and some introductions to this in the beginning. I can't put subway surfer gameplay next to my blog but I hope this will do. I was shared a funny video about a highly religious YouTuber named Michael Knowles, which by the way no witch hunting it doesn't accomplish anything, and I found the video hilarious but I will give some warnings.

His content can be incredibly offensive. He's proud of this but despite having nearly 2 million subscribers his last videos, which he posted in the past 24 hours, all have under 60k views one of which only has 11k. Despite the whole point of being a content creator is to be likeable and make content people like I'm sure he'll complain about cancel culture being the reason he's failing any day now. That's what people like him say to justify people not liking them. I'm also making this post because, even if you're not worried about certain triggers, this dude will not get out of my recommendations. I'm legitimately considering getting a new Google account. He is completely unironic although it wasn't until I watched a couple other videos to know this. I'm not making the typical "haha I thought this was satire it's so bad" joke I mean I genuinely thought in all honesty he was satirical. His whole personality is about how he thinks he's right about everything. The first line in his YouTube bio is "Bask in the simple joys of being right". That and about leftists yada yada. He doesn't have beliefs of his own, he's just an echo. He looks and sounds like a discount Ben Shapiro and even I think that's too mean against Ben Shapiro. He has a cup with "leftists tears" on his desk. To make your whole personality about how you hate everything must be miserable. Extremely, miserable. The amount of effort this dude spends trying to claim his mentality doesn't make him miserable is incredibly telling and the cognitive dissonance to dedicate a channel to things that offend you and then to claim you do it because others get offended so easily is incredible, but back to the main subject. The video actually starts of interesting. Hazbin Hotel has inspirations from various myths and legends and this person knows a lot about them and shares some light on where Vivziepop probably got some of the plot points from (e.g. How Lilith is portrayed in Judaism). It is all down hill from here though. This is me trying to be, no pun intended, open minded and a devil's advocate.

Despite the show being rated 18+ he claims it is for children and then after he's made up in his head it's specifically made for children he gets angry because of that. He talks a bit about "hook up culture" and does not seem to understand that two people hooking up can be beneficial for both people involved. That sex between two people can be an equal exchange for them. I feel so sorry for his wife. He also goes into how demons can't love but Hazbin Hotel of course does a great job at questioning this subject. If Hell is forever it doesn't make sense. Do you humans lose free will the moment they enter heaven? They're immortal at this point eventually they'll sin so would they not go to hell or is it inevitable even if you make it into heaven you're eventually damned for eternity? Can angels do whatever an remain in the sky? In the bible Lucifer shows there's a limit to what you can do so it is possible. However, Michael Knowles usually only tackles dilemmas he has an answer to and even then they're not great answers. He talks about how Eve was considered an equal to Adam in the bible but then goes into how Eve completely submits to Adam which would not be equal. Do keep in mind he watches the opening season to episode one and that is it. The rest of the show could expose him to a few too many beliefs that he doesn't share and we can't have that. He goes into how the right is riled up, radicalism, and satanism. This was a roller coaster the first time I watched it because the first minute or two I'm like "Oh cool it's kind of educational" and then the rest I'm like "Is this some sort of dry humor I'm not picking up?". "Leftism from the beginning has been a rebellion against God".

[zatyrlucy]

Q&A Facts

First of all, I want to inform that my internet is screwed up. I don't know what is happening but I didn't have internet all day and probably won't have it tomorrow. I am using a “Mobile Partner” so I will try to post the most I can about Momocon (well its only this and probably a gif of the new clip but you get me).  

I watched all the Q&A video from Vivziepop panel and there was a lot of wonderful things people asked. Also thanks to @kaedesan721 for giving me some extra info about the panel. 

1.       Someone asked if fat nuggets is in hell because of random reasons or if he is an “evil pig”. Vivz answered that those kind of facts are still in construction.

2.       Someone asked about the creation of the characters. Alastor was created in the Hazbin world because he already was an old, long-time, character that Viv had changed a lot of times. So she kept him, because she liked the way he is and she rearranged him for the story of Hazbin Hotel. Angel was based in Arackniss. Arackniss was created first but then Vivz decided to give him a more funny personality and that’s how Angel Dust was created. Husk was based in a sketch Vivz’s little sister did long ago, she just changed some things and thats how Husk was created. Charlie “just appeared” in vivz mind and she decided immediately that Charlie would work as the main character. There was already another demon called Charlie but still, Vivz decided to keep the name anyway.

3.       There are some jokes that were scraped from the pilot (I hope they show us those someday).

4.       There will be also a lot of cameos in the pilot, from different characters that come from old and new shows created by Vivzie

5.       Sir Pentious was originated because vivz likes cobras and cliché villains, also she wanted to do a really funny villain with the typical minions. “A cynical, derpy, classy villain”

6.       The series will be 30 episodes long, the idea is from each one to be 30 min long, but given the reality of the case, it depends on the amount of help the show’ll receive how long every episode will be (15 min or 10 or whatever).

7.       In a question about the pilot, Viv said after it's release it's up in the air about its future, but it's a bright future. Studios have been "sniffing around." There's interest but nothing concrete.

8.       The pilot, of course, will be the last animation of Hazbin for this year, because producing more takes a lot of time. But, there will be comics and maybe other content about the series. As Vivz said “whatever that takes the production going”

9.       Alastor is Vivz favorite because he was the first one created from all the cast of Hazbin Hotel (I mean who doesn’t love the daddy deer demon I am right?)

10.       Vivz is working in the script of two zoophobia cartoons, but the productions of them will come “when they can”

11.   Vivz will try to connect all her shows together but is difficult because they are very different from each other, in context and locations.

12.   Alastor has a deer tail? Not even Vivzie knows because Alastor has never been seen without his jacket 

13.   Indeed Angel will have a boyfriend, but Vivz didn’t tell if we have already seen the lucky guy or not. (should we do a bet? Lmao).

14.   Alastor is the hardest to animate/clean up of all the characters according to Vivz, Tom and Ashley. (I guess its because of his hair and ears).  

15.   Alastor is definitely part of the main cast. Although all attention is going to be centered in Angel, Charlie and Vaggie, Vivz confirmed Alastor is going to be in a lot of episodes too, while characters like Husk and Niffty and the others are going to be in some episodes sometimes.

16.   In terms of writing, Angel is the hardest because “his complex brain” and the huge level of sass that Vivz doesn’t have. In contrast, Charlie is the easiest to write.

17.   Vivz is not going to do big changes in zoophobia characters. Only a little bit in narrating. Figurate out “how to tell the story better”.

18.   Hazbin Hotel is indeed a musical and Vivz plan to keep it that way.

19.   Vivz likes edgy characters but after adjusting Alastor into the 30s themes, she discovered he would work better as a “Cheshire cat villain”. Grimm but still goofy, someone who wants to mess up with everybody. Like an edgy-funny, instead of an edgy-edgy character.

20.   Someone DARED to ask where the Egg bois come from and if its Sir Pentious the one who lays them. Vivz said that the answer will appear later in the series and that the eggbois’ origin is going to be something funny, a joke, and Vivz doesn’t want to spoil that. But in the meantime, we are free to think whatever we want about it. (lmao I laughed so hard at that moment my father almost kill me for waking him up haha).

21.   Some Hazbin Voice Actors could work for the zoophobia shorts, but most of the zoophobia VA are going to be new.  

22.   Lucifer is not going to be in the pilot, but will appear “very soon” after that

23.   Alastor’s song is like 2 min long (Vivz didn’t say that but someone that was in the panel told me)

24.    Viv did acknowledge in the stream that the clip they showed is the reprise of Inside of Every Demon is a Rainbow when talking about the musical talents she got on the show. 

25. Vivzie said Charlie has another song in the pilot, but they are not going to show that until its release. She has wants the series to have a song number nearly every episode.

source

[ingayderzim]

not to be that person who asks a googleable question but wtf is hazbin hotel bc i googled it and the only “critical” thing i could find was a typo-ridden article of someone saying it has good animation and its haters are stupid. i was able to glean what it is/what it’s about but idk about the discourse lmao

Im actually so glad u asked this. Here's the lowdown, this is my definitive answer to hazbin shit from here on out, unless new info comes about of course.

Hazbin hotel is an independent cartoon by vivziepop. Most people (that ive seen) have agreed that the pilot of the show really isnt that great but the reason it has so many fans is bc of the entertaining livestreams, massive amounts of canon content produced (she has had these characters for years), unique art style, and the characters. (Ass ugly but unique.)

Its haters are totally justified bc of some of the "controversial" (read: bad) things vivziepop has done. Here's the conclusion that my friends and classmates (several of whom are Black, one Hispanic woman, and one trans woman...nellie if ur reading this i 💜 u) and i came to after discussing this stuff. I am NOT saying "well my black/trans friend said it's ok so i dont have to think about it!" this is based on a few different conversations that my friends and i have had about this topic so what im saying is that my opinion was formed by talking about this situation with multiple people affected by the controversy.

One controversial thing is a drawing u can easily find on google (called beastiality.jpg i believe?) It's a cropped (chest and up, but hes obv naked) drawing of vivziepops character, drawn by vivziepop, moaning, with a snake around him. The character is 17. Many people have interpreted this as child porn. I dont think this image is pornographic, i think it's a stupid joke (it was even tagged as a joke iirc) and completely inappropriate but since it's 8 years old on top of not being porn, i think it's just an example of a dumb drawing. That being said, i would NEVER argue that someone who is uncomfortable w the drawing (im uncomfortable with it! It's gross just not porn) or considers it porn is wrong. They are entitled to that opinion and i would never expose them to vivziepops work or talk about her stuff around them if they expressed to me that they disliked the image.

Another thing is that she drew a doodle of two racist TERFs. This is the one where my friends of color, my friends who are black, and my friends who are trans women took the lead. I sat back for this part and here's their and my opinion on this after talking about it and verbally going through this whole situation.

She was following these women (who had done blackface and stuff) and drew art of them. The art was a "quick doodle" that she did apologize for and she said she didn't realize the extent of their beliefs. She knew they werent great but hadnt consumed much of their content in depth. I believe her bc while ive never followed anyone as bad, ive certainly followed some pieces of shit and didnt notice for months simply bc im not online all the time and bc of the volume of people i follow, combined with the non chronological algorithms lately.

At the risk of screwing myself, im going to admit that there was about a year or so of my life where i enjoyed The Amazing Atheist. I was even subbed to him. I was a nonbinary lesbian (2 things he cant stand lmaoo) in catholic school and therefore i strictly watched his videos about theological stuff since thats what was frustrating me at the time. I had no clue the type of evil racist, transphobic, homophobic (yes ik hes bi), misogynistic things he thought, said, and did, bc i didnt watch those videos. I literally only watched select theological ones that could be of use to me while edgily debating my teachers (sorry mrs macdougal but u had it coming). I was about 15 at the time and im 19 now. Im sorry to everyone i hurt by ever having supported him. I had one of his quotes written in the inside of my religion notebook in high school. I regretted it and ripped the page out the moment i discovered the truth about him. I cant stress enough how much I HATE HIM. Thats an example of what i think happened here tho.

One of my friends who is a trans woman said (paraphrasing) "i think the worst thing shes done is that terf art but i believe the apology especially bc it was a quick drawing."

That being said, i would NEVER argue with someone who wanted nothing to do w vivziepop bc of this. That's their right. 100%. I would never expose them to her work after that.

The last thing i remember is something about a pedophilic couple in a comic but i heard it was a 17 year old and a 19 year old. Im 19 and if one of my peers did that i wouldnt say pedophile but id say ur a fucking weirdo, BUT, the kids were fake and being written by an adult so i can totally see her thinking that age gap is much less of a big deal than it really is. Like she forgot what it's like at this age. Idk how true any of that part is tho, i heard that info entirely secondhand.

Another thing to do with racism is that there's a joke within the show where one character says to the other

"don't get your taco in a twist"

"Was that supposed to be racist or sexist?"

"Whichever one pisses you off more"

I thought that was gross but one of my friends pointed out that vivziepop is of el salvadorian descent so that's her business. Like if i made a lesbian joke of equal or greater offensiveness than that and someone tried to call me lesbophobic over it id be like "that's literally my territory."

Oh speaking of which that character's name is vaggie and shes a lesbian but it's not pronounced w the same G you'd hear in "vagina." Vivziepop seems to name characters weirdly (like how in helluva boss theres a guy named blitzo and the o is silent) so maybe it's a pussy joke but i have no idea.

The animation was.................better than i could do, i wanna say the faces and gestures were good but god i remember there was a part with a car and my gf had to pause so i could laugh my ass off at it. I wouldn't describe the animation as a highlight but i liked the style in motion i thought it was a fun change. Vivziepops style is not appealing imo but i appreciate it as an art student and as someone whose friends all like she ra and steven universe where every character looks the goddamn motherfucking same, and while its chaotic and i dont care for it, the style actually works way better in motion than you'd think.

A good rule that i def use is to assume hazbin fans are guilty until proven innocent. If someone says they dont care about the discourse surrounding it and like it no matter what, RUN! They would support the show even if the creator was in fact a pedophile, or had done the blackface/was a terf herself! They probably support some horrible ppl and are probably "anti antis." A lot of them are minors tho so i'd say block and move on.

So, do i like it or not? Im an art student and all my friends like it so while i didnt think it was funny, i do fuck with it. At the convention this weekend my friends and i had a convo that led to me drawing an ahego hoodie where the faces were angel dust (a character's) face. It was a joke that i could make a killing by selling that in a booth at a con.

Theres really nothing compelling about the show but my friends like it so i join in on their conversations, and i do have a soft spot for angel dust bc he's like a worse, less amazing and gorgeous version of one of my characters, Candy, the love of my life.

A lot of people say the show was edgy/offensive and maybe im just desensitized but besides the taco thing i didnt pick up on that whatsoever??? The Archer episode "Swiss Miss" is worse than helluva boss and hazbin combined and even archer isn't offensive.

Im probably not aware of all the "discourse" (aka people being reasonably uncomfortable by weird and bad shit this random woman has done, and other ppl saying their opinions are wrong when it's literally just an opinion about a show) so if anything she's done isnt included in here it's not to defend vivziepop, this is genuinely all i know. I wouldnt describe myself as a fan of hers.