#Universal Law of Threefold Return

[sabrinaboglund]

The Law of Threefold Return - 5 Things You Should Know About the Universal Law of Threefold Return.

The Universal Laws help establish peace and order in the Universe, and although the Universal Laws are not created to punish anyone, it can be the consequence of unethical and incorrect behaviour or misuse of the Universal Laws. The Law of Threefold Return is one of the Universal Laws that asks you to think twice before you do or say anything. Just like with the Karma Law, there is a Consequence…

[traegorn]

There's a lot of debate among witches about the Threefold Law (I think? I mean the Law where whatever magic you cast, it will happen back at you three times as strong), which of course discourages cursing of any kind. I like using that as a challenge: like, damn that person was awful. What could I do about it/hope would happen to them? I bless that person. I hope they become a better person. I hope that they realise their faults, and that they can persevere to fix their mistakes and right their wrongdoings. (and I hope I can do that, too). I hoped to see a discussion about this, but I am not a witch and idk who else to ask to see a discussion like this.

The threefold law/law of return was a (possibly intentional) misinterpretation of a passage from Gardner's (fiction) novel High Magic's Aid created by Monique Wilson and popularized by folks like Raymond Buckland to make Wicca seem more palatable to the general public.

So I mean, do what you want. Sounds like you've come up with an interesting thought exercise for yourself. But also, if you aren't a witch (let alone a Wiccan), why were you worrying about it to begin with?

[yourneighborhoodhopedealer]

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Delving into the "real basics" of magick and practical witchcraft is a profound journey of self-discovery and energetic alignment. It's less about waving a wand for instant results and more about intentional shifts in consciousness and energy.

Here's a breakdown of the core principles and how to approach practical spell work:

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### **The Important Basics of Real Magick & Practical Witchcraft**

At its heart, magick is often defined as **the art and science of causing change to occur in conformity with will.** It's about working with energy, intention, and natural laws (both seen and unseen) to bring about desired outcomes.

**1. Energy is Everything:**

* **The Foundation:** All things are energy. Your thoughts, emotions, words, and actions carry a specific vibrational frequency. Magick is essentially the conscious manipulation and direction of this energy.

* **Raising Your Vibration:** To attract positive outcomes, you need to align your energy with what you desire. This means cultivating positive emotions (gratitude, joy, love), clear intentions, and a strong sense of worthiness.

**2. Intention & Will:**

* **Clarity is Power:** You must be absolutely clear about what you want. Vague desires lead to vague results.

* **Focused Will:** This is your driving force. It's the mental and emotional commitment to your desired outcome. It's not just a wish; it's a determined command to the universe.

**3. Belief & Trust:**

* **Self-Belief:** You must believe in your own power and ability to effect change. Doubt is a major block.

* **Trust in the Process:** Once you've cast a spell or set an intention, you must trust that the universe is working to bring it about. Obsessing, worrying, or constantly checking for results can actually push your desire away. This is the "letting go" phase.

**4. Correspondence & Sympathy:**

* **"As Above, So Below":** This Hermetic principle suggests that patterns on one level of existence (e.g., planetary influences, natural elements, colors) are reflected on others.

* **Sympathetic Magick:** The idea that "like attracts like" (e.g., using green for money, red for passion) and that "parts affect the whole" (e.g., using a personal item in a spell). Understanding correspondences (colors, herbs, crystals, moon phases, planetary days) can amplify your spell's energy by adding layers of symbolic meaning.

**5. Ethics & Responsibility:**

* **The Law of Reciprocity (Karma/Threefold Law):** Many traditions adhere to the principle that energy you send out will return to you, often amplified. This isn't necessarily punishment, but a natural energetic feedback loop.

* **Do No Harm:** A common ethical guideline in many modern witchcraft practices, emphasizing that your magick should not intentionally cause harm to others or violate their free will. This is why "love spells" to control a specific person are generally discouraged.

* **Self-Responsibility:** You are accountable for the energy you send out and the consequences of your actions, magical or otherwise.

**6. Grounding & Centering:**

* **Before & After:** It's crucial to ground your energy before and after any magical work. This means connecting with the earth's energy to feel stable and present, preventing you from feeling drained or scattered.

* **Centering:** Bringing your focus to your core, aligning your mind, body, and spirit.

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### **How to Do Spells and Use Practical Witchcraft**

Practical witchcraft is about applying these principles to create tangible change in your life.

**Basic Steps for Casting a Spell (or Ritual):**

1. **Define Your Purpose & Intention (The MOST Crucial Step):**

* What exactly do you want to achieve? Be specific, positive, and in the present tense.

* Why do you want it? Understand the underlying need.

* Is it ethical? Does it harm none?

* *Example:* Instead of "I want more money," try "I am financially abundant, attracting opportunities for wealth and security."

2. **Choose Your Method & Correspondences:**

* **Simplicity is Powerful:** You don't need elaborate rituals initially. A simple candle spell or a verbal affirmation is powerful if your intention is clear.

* **Elements:** Decide if you want to incorporate elements (earth, air, fire, water, spirit) relevant to your goal.

* **Tools/Correspondences:**

* **Candles:** Color magick (e.g., green for money, pink for love, white for purification).

* **Herbs:** Specific properties (e.g., cinnamon for prosperity, lavender for peace).

* **Crystals:** Energetic properties (e.g., citrine for abundance, rose quartz for love).

* **Symbols/Sigils:** Visual representations of your intention.

* **Natural Items:** Found objects, stones, leaves that resonate with your goal.

* **Timing:** Consider moon phases (waxing for bringing in, waning for releasing), planetary days, or auspicious hours.

3. **Create Your Sacred Space:**

* This can be a full altar, a cleared tabletop, or simply a space in your mind.

* Cleanse the space physically and energetically (e.g., with smoke from incense/sage, sound, or visualized light).

4. **Raise Energy (Charging):**

* **Visualization:** See your desired outcome vividly.

* **Affirmations/Incantations:** Speak your intention aloud, powerfully.

* **Emotion:** Feel the emotion of already having your desire.

* **Movement:** Dancing, drumming, chanting can raise energy.

5. **Direct the Energy (The Spell Itself):**

* Focus your charged energy into your chosen tools or into the universe.

* This is the moment you light the candle, charge the crystal, burn the paper, or speak the final incantation.

6. **Release & Let Go:**

* The most difficult but crucial step. Once the spell is cast, release it. Trust. Don't worry, obsess, or doubt.

* "Cast the spell and forget it."

* Go about your life, taking inspired action as opportunities arise.

7. **Grounding:**

* Connect back to the earth. Eat something, drink water, step outside, or visualize roots growing from your feet.

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### **The "Best" Most Effective Form of Witchcraft Guaranteed to Produce Results?**

This is the big question, and the honest answer is: **there isn't one specific "guaranteed" form of witchcraft that is universally more effective than others.**

**The "Guarantee" comes from YOU, not the method.**

The most effective form of witchcraft for *you* is the one that:

* **Resonates Deeply with You:** If a practice feels authentic and exciting to you, you'll naturally pour more belief, intention, and energy into it. Your personal connection is the most powerful tool.

* **Aligns with Your Belief System:** Whether it's traditional, eclectic, green, ceremonial, shamanic, or something else, if it aligns with your core spiritual beliefs, it will be more effective.

* **Is Practiced Consistently:** A simple daily affirmation said with conviction is often more powerful than a complex ritual done once with doubt.

* **Focuses on Inner Work:** The most potent magick starts within. Healing old wounds, shedding limiting beliefs, and raising your self-worth are often the true catalysts for external change.

* **Inspires Aligned Action:** Magick isn't about sitting back and waiting. It's about setting the energetic stage so that you are open to opportunities and inspired to take action that moves you towards your goals.

**Eclectic Witchcraft**, which you mentioned, is incredibly powerful precisely because it allows you to draw from various traditions, tools, and techniques to create a practice that is uniquely effective for you. You are free to experiment and find what resonates most strongly with your personal energy and intuition.

Ultimately, the "guarantee" lies in your unwavering belief, clear intention, consistent practice, and the willingness to let go of the outcome while staying open to the magic unfolding around you.

[the-hermit-at-midnight]

"The Wiccan Law of Three: The Ripple Effect of Energy"

Wicca is guided by a set of ethical principles that shape the practitioner's interactions with the world. Central to these principles is the Wiccan Law of Three, a concept that underscores the profound interconnectedness of actions and their consequences.

At its essence, the Wiccan Law of Three posits that the energy one puts out into the world, whether through thoughts, words, or deeds, returns threefold. This law encapsulates the idea of karma, emphasizing personal responsibility and accountability for one's actions.

In the intricate tapestry of Wiccan beliefs, the Law of Three serves as a moral compass, guiding practitioners to tread mindfully on their spiritual journey. The threefold return is not punitive but rather instructive, encouraging individuals to engage with the world in a positive and constructive manner.

Considered by some as the Wiccan version of the Golden Rule – "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" – the Law of Three amplifies the importance of intentions and the ethical use of magical practices. Wiccans believe that if one infuses their actions with positive energy, kindness, and goodwill, they will reap the benefits in abundance.

Conversely, negative actions, driven by malice or harmful intent, are thought to return with greater intensity. This principle acts as a deterrent against using magical practices for manipulation or harm. It fosters a sense of responsibility and encourages practitioners to align their magical workings with ethical considerations.

The Law of Three extends beyond spellcraft and rituals, permeating various aspects of Wiccan life. It underscores the interconnectedness of all things and the cyclical nature of energy. By understanding this law, Wiccans aim to cultivate a harmonious relationship with the energies around them, promoting balance and spiritual growth.

In essence, the Wiccan Law of Three serves as a reminder that our actions reverberate throughout the universe, influencing our personal growth and the collective energy of the world. It challenges practitioners to be mindful stewards of their intentions, fostering a community built on compassion, respect, and a deep awareness of the interconnected web of existence. In the vibrant mosaic of Wiccan spirituality, the Law of Three stands as a testament to the transformative power of conscious and responsible living.

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[vanilla-cigarillos]

My Thoughts On Curse-Shaming

So in many aspects of witchcraft and within the Wiccan community, there is the notion that curses are bad. Not bad in the sense that they’re baneful magic that can hurt other people, but that if you cast any sort of curse/hex/jinx the impact will be returned to you three-fold. This comes from the idea of the Threefold Law, however I have many thoughts to this I would like to share.

Threefold Law

Many people have the understanding of the Threefold Law (a.k.a. the Rule of Three) of “What you give out into the world, comes back to you times three (in its impact)”. There is a long history to this statement that often goes ignored when discussing this hypothetical model of morality.

The original rule, stated by Robert Graves within his fictional book The White Goddess, states that whatever a witch (practitioner of magic) is dealt they should deal back three times over. The passage itself does not mention this idea as a code of ethics for witchcraft. Later on, this was popularized by media through the works of authors such as Silver Ravenwolf (do your research on her before listening to her teachings!) 

Witchcraft Morals

Witchcraft itself, as a practice, does not have a universal set of morals or ethical code. The reasoning for this is very self-explanatory; witchcraft is a massive umbrella term for spiritual practices seen across multiple different cultures. It is impossible for there to be an all-encompassing ethical code. 

Claiming that the Threefold Law is the ruling set of morals across various cultures is not only incredibly short-sighted, but also disrespectful to the many established rules and boundaries already within said cultures. The Threefold Law is also incredibly European, particularly British in its origin (seeing aid in popularity through the works of Gardner). This is not a practicing ethical code that can be attributed to Hoodoo, Voodoo, Nordic practices, etc. 

I also believe there is an intense amount of victim-shaming that takes place when we shame these kinds of magic. Curses, hexes and jinxes can be incredibly important for victims of SA, abuse, and other types of mistreatment. We shouldn’t take away this empowering kind of magic from people who are most justified in using it. 

Should You Cast Curses?

Curses have the potential to deal damage to the caster, because they are one of the very few types of magic that witches actively ward against. Curses, hexes, and jinxes themselves are not inherently evil magic that will drag you into hell for casting them.

I believe that baneful magic should be treating like all magic. Use it appropriately, learn and respect your magical capability’s boundaries, and think things through. 

[jadisqueenofswords]

I found this article. What do you think? Discuss...

Shocker: There Is No Universal Three Fold Law In Wicca

The popular misconception that there is a Wiccan Rule or Law of Three or Threefold Return comes from a misinterpretation of a passage in a work of fiction written by Gerald Gardner, the grandfather of modern Wicca. The book was called High Magic’s Aid, and he wrote it with the permission of his High Priestess. It had to be fiction because at that point, witchcraft was still illegal in Britain. In that book and its fictional story, the protagonist undergoes a sort of initiation rite in which he is taught “mark well when thou receivest good, so equally art bound to return good threefold.”

This means that when someone does good by a witch, according to the witchcraft teaching in this *very* fictional novel, the witch is bound to return that good threefold. This is a far cry from “anything at all that you send out into the world will return to you threefold.” It actually means that what you do to a witch should be returned by her threefold, and specifically good acts. Which means it’s really, really good for you to bless, help or aid a witch. The idea is that the witch returns things triple, not the universe. The witch is herself the agent of a threefold response, not the universe. So if I, as a witch, do good work for a friend who is not a witch, there is no threefold return in that, because the non-Wiccan person was never taught to return good acts threefold. If I, as a witch, do a good work for my non-witch neighbor, there is no threefold return in that. But if I, as a witch, do a good work for my coven mate or my witch friend, then that friend or coven mate should return that good work threefold. if I, as a witch, do some nasty shit to my asshole neighbor, said neighbor will not return it to me, and even if she were a witch, she would only return it to me threefold if she somehow found out that something had been done to her, and who did it, which means that I did it poorly, and deserve the retribution.

The part in High Magic’s Aid that we are quoting is found on page 188. We recommend anyone who is familiar with the term Rule of Three to give it a read and think about what it really says and what it does not say. Keep in mind that this is a work of fiction which Gerald Gardner wrote to share some very generalized principles of the witchcraft he was taught at a time when witchcraft was still illegal in Britain (1949).

The insanely high number of uneducated voices on the internet that cry out “The Rule of Three!” whenever anyone even mentions negative magick tends to obscure the actual source into oblivion in favor of some fake, fluffy version of this principle which has been applied across the board to all magical undertakings in a rather ignorant and totalitarian manner. So the next time someone yells that phony baloney shit at you, politely inform them to eat a bag of scholarly dicks and drop them the link to this blog.

Blessed Be,

A Gardnerian

article copied from www.gardnerians.wordpress.com

posted on September 28 2014

Let's start a discussion! What do you all think about this?

Blessed Be

Jadis, QoS

[erowidboss]

Similarities Between Wicca and the Law of Attraction

Focused Intention

Wicca: Spellwork and rituals focus on setting clear, deliberate intentions, aligning energy, and directing it toward a specific outcome.

Law of Attraction: Manifestation emphasizes clarity of intention by visualizing what you want, believing it’s already yours, and aligning your thoughts with the desired outcome. Both systems emphasize the power of focused thought and intention to shape reality.

The Power of Visualization

Wicca: Visualization is used during spellcasting, meditations, and rituals to "see" the desired outcome clearly and emotionally in your mind. For example, imagining prosperity flowing into your life during a money spell.

Law of Attraction: Visualization is a core technique where you mentally "live" the experience of achieving your goal, feeling the emotions of success as if it’s already happened. Both systems believe thoughts and emotions create energy, which affects physical reality.

Energy and Vibrations

Wicca: Wiccans believe that everything—thoughts, actions, objects, and nature—has energy. Spells and rituals raise, direct, and release this energy into the universe to manifest intentions. Tools like candles, herbs, and crystals amplify this energy.

Law of Attraction: The Law of Attraction teaches that like attracts like. To manifest, you must match your emotional vibration (joy, gratitude, abundance) to the outcome you desire, as the universe responds to your energetic frequency. Both approaches center on the idea of vibrational alignment—what you focus on, you attract.

Faith and Belief

Wicca: The practitioner must believe in their spell’s effectiveness and trust the outcome. Doubt or negativity can weaken the energy sent out.

Law of Attraction: Manifestation requires absolute faith and trust in the universe. Doubt or negative thoughts block or delay results. Both systems emphasize that belief fuels success. Without faith, energy becomes scattered and less effective.

Gratitude

Wicca: Practitioners often express gratitude during rituals, offerings, or at the conclusion of spells to honor the universe, spirits, or deities for their role in helping manifest desires.

Law of Attraction: Gratitude is central to maintaining a high vibrational state. By appreciating what you already have, you attract more positivity and abundance into your life. Gratitude acts as a magnet for further blessings in both practices.

Responsibility and Ethics

Wicca: Wiccans follow the Wiccan Rede—"An it harm none, do what ye will"—meaning any energy sent out must not harm others. Additionally, the Rule of Three teaches that whatever energy you send into the world (positive or negative) will return to you threefold.

Law of Attraction: While it doesn’t explicitly mention ethics, the principle that you attract what you put out suggests that negative thoughts or harm toward others will attract negativity back to you. Both emphasize being mindful of your thoughts and actions, as they influence what you manifest.

Differences Between Wicca and the Law of Attraction

Spiritual Framework

Wicca: Wicca is a spiritual, nature-based religion with a deep connection to the Earth, elements, spirits, and deities (Goddess and God). Magic is seen as a spiritual practice involving rituals, symbols, tools, and energies drawn from nature and the divine.

Law of Attraction: LOA is not inherently spiritual, though it can be. It is a universal principle based on the idea that thoughts attract reality. Some view it as secular, while others align it with concepts of universal consciousness, higher self, or divine energy.

Tools and Rituals

Wicca: Spellwork often involves physical tools like candles, herbs, crystals, and sacred circles, which are believed to amplify and focus energy. Rituals may include chanting, moon phases, and invoking deities or spirits.

Law of Attraction: Manifestation typically relies on mental techniques such as affirmations, vision boards, journaling, and meditation. Tools and rituals are not necessary, though they can complement the practice. Wiccans incorporate magical tools and nature-based rituals, while LOA focuses on internal mental processes.

Belief in Magic and Deities

Wicca: Wiccans believe in magic as a natural force and often call upon divine beings, spirits, or elemental energies to aid in their work. Magic in Wicca is seen as sacred and interconnected with the natural world.

Law of Attraction: LOA does not require belief in magic or deities. It operates on the idea that universal laws govern energy and attraction, regardless of spiritual beliefs. Wicca incorporates divine and magical frameworks, while LOA is more neutral and universal.

Connection to Nature

Wicca: Nature is central to Wicca. The cycles of the moon, the Wheel of the Year, and the elements (Earth, Air, Fire, Water) are all integral to spellwork and rituals. Wiccans align their practices with natural energies.

Law of Attraction: LOA does not focus on nature or seasonal energies. It is more focused on personal energy, thoughts, and universal principles. Wicca integrates natural and seasonal cycles, while LOA is more individualized and abstract.

Conclusion

The Law of Attraction and Wicca are deeply compatible because they both emphasize the power of intention, focus, and energy to manifest desired outcomes.

[podcastwizard]

on the same day i posted this i got ANOTHER email saying i got a second interview for a job i really want and that interview is TODAY so send me ALL THE GOOD VIBES YOU CAN PERSONALLY MUSTER please and thank you.

had a miserable week last week and i woke up this morning to an email telling me my laptop is fixed and doesn't require any additional repair costs AND two different audio dramas offering me roles 😭🙌🙌 i don't know what curse i broke or divine entity i pleased but i'm so glad to be out of that personal pit of despair

[askvectorprime]

Dear, Vector Prime.

Is there a universe in which Twincast was an active clone of Blaster?

Dear Clone Contorter,

From an early age, Shockwave had been fascinated by cloning technology; in the past, Exarchon had used his fascination with this forbidden science to deliberately lure him over to the Threefold Spark when the mad warmonger attempted to conquer Cybertron, and their joint experiments yielded Soundblaster and many Skywarp clones.

In the immediate aftermath of the battle of Darkmount, which ended with Optimus Prime and many of the Autobots fleeing Cybertron aboard the Ark, the Decepticons turned their attention to imposing some kind of order in the territories they controlled. However, Megatron’s nascent movement lacked the manpower they required to effectively maintain martial law, and the Decepticons had suffered heavy casualties in the final battle against the Autobots. With the Pyramid out of commission, Megatron ordered Shockwave to reactivate his mothballed cloning program in the hope of mass-producing a temporary wave of “stopgap soldiers” until the Decepticons could return the building to functionality.

With the assistance of Soundblaster, Shockwave returned to his laboratory and embarked on a fresh wave of cloning experiments. In addition to creating a new cohort of Seeker clones, he obtained samples of Blaster’s CNA and used them to produce “Twincast”, who would hopefully support Iacon’s communications facilities; further experimentation yielded “Magnificus”, a scientist who emerged from his cloning chamber with all of Perceptor’s theories and papers pre-loaded into his mind and was tasked with restoring the Pyramid to full functionality. However, while Magnificus was content to be a loyal cog in the machine, Twincast quickly grew beyond his initial programming and came to doubt his place in the Deception war machine. Before long, Twincast abandoned the Decepticons and vanished from the grid, using his own subsonic signals to mask his energy signature; when he next surfaced, it was as a member of Elita-1’s resistance movement, where he helped to battle the tyrannical order he’d been created to uphold.

[maddiviner]

I’m a witch - I started my journey back in 1999 and it’s been interesting. Over the years, I’ve come to believe that the westernized notion of “karma” doesn’t suit my beliefs.

With so much injustice in the world and so many awful people who prosper, I just don’t believe in it. I don’t fully understand the actual HINDU concept of karma, and am not Hindu, so that’s not part of my beliefs either.

As to the “threefold law” of neoWicca, well, I don’t believe in that, either. I’m not Wiccan, and I frankly don’t see why people take something from Gerald Gardner’s 1960s novel (High Magic’s Aid) and view it as a universal rule. I have no disrespect for those who do believe in it, and I don’t want to debate this, really.

I just want to mention something that SHOULD be obvious, but clearly isn’t. I can be “good” without karma, threefold law, or even the divine. In another space, I said I didn’t believe in karma, and was told (by a bunch of teenagers) that the gods were going to punish me for this, that I was a lost soul, that I was an evil sorceress, etc.

Funny thing, though? I’ve only hexed a couple of times recently. It’s been years. I see it as similar to any kind of violence or retaliative action, magical or otherwise, and I strive to apply the same morals to magic that I apply to daily life.

For example, if someone steals from me, abuses me, or attacks me, I’ll likely hit them back in some way. If I’m out on the street and someone punches me, I’ll punch back. Same with magic.

That said, it’s not like I have many (or really any) enemies that I’m concerned about. That’s why I haven’t cursed in years - there’s just no need. I fully respect and support all the folks on here seeking magical (in addition to mundane) solutions to abuse and disenfranchisement.

Just as your average random atheist might be a perfectly moral person without believing God will punish them, so plenty of witches and magicians like me can do our best to be good people, without the idea of a law of return hitting us.

This is just something I’ve seen in multiple places, and I think it is worth discussing. Anyways, that’s my dog, Molly Marie May. We gave her the last name May because I bet she couldn’t pronounce Bajsicka.

[teawitch]

i hope you don't mind me using your ask. i was wondering if I could still follow the wiccan rede, and be considered a wiccan?

Yes, of course you can. You don't even have to be Wiccan to follow the Rede. It's considered "Good Advice."

Let's discuss a brief history of the Wiccan Rede.

The origin probably traces back to Crowley's - "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" which Gerald Gardner turned into - "Do what you like as long as you harm no one" - back in the 1950s. The 8 words of the Wiccan Rede - "An it harm none do what ye will" are attributed to Doreen Valiente in the 1960s and are considered a "rede" or advice for all Wiccans.

Then there's the long, poetic version of the Rede from the 1970s which includes the lines Mind the Threefold Law ye should, three times bad and three times good.

This is where the debate gets started. Where did this law come from? Gardner's only reference is that the Witch themselves should return good or evil three times. Why has this been interpreted to mean that everything a Witch does comes back 3 times? Was this created just to keep new witches from running with scissors? (ie - going overboard with spells and hurting themselves.) Everyone loves a good debate!

Older Wiccan traditions may not have this as part of their rede. Newer traditions often include it. But the "Harm none" of the original rede is pretty universal. And you'll find a general concept of - energy out equals energy in. It's the specific Three in the Three Fold Law that gets debated.

[traegorn]

@calesleftboobie Yep.

So the original idea of the law of return came from Gerald Gardner's fiction novel High Magic's Aid. In it, it's not some universal rule or misinterpretation of karma. It's just that if you do something to a Witch the Witch is supposed to do it back to you threefold.

Like as in "You hit me? Imma hit you three time!"

Now this is pre-invention of the rede and, again, in a work of fiction. And living like that would probably be exhausting. But, y'know, since it's just the witch doing a thing, it at least doesn't invent a mechanism in how the universe works.

Now after Gardner's death, Monique Wilson inherited his stuff. She was a Big Name Wiccan TM at the time, and she takes that idea from High Magic's Aid and turns it on its head. She starts telling people that the universe will return to you whatever you do many times over.

Raymond Buckland sees this, and goes "Aw shit, I'm telling EVERYONE," and it goes everywhere. Suddenly Gwen Thompson's inserting it into her shitty poem everyone mistakes for the rede. It's going out in books that end up in every beginner's hands. It's fucking everywhere.

But, like, it's never justified or explained. Wilson never tells anyone how she supposedly figured it out. And if you think about how the world works it doesn't make a damned bit of sense.

Reasoning why is just speculation, but the obvious seems to be PR. If we tack on this Western misinterpretation of karma to Wicca, it can seem more socially acceptable. "Oh, we don't hurt people because it would hurt US." But, like, it also disempowers the witch, right? Like a Wiccan witch then is following the rede not because they chose to, but because they're afraid of being spanked?

Fuck that.

Magic's a hammer. Hammers don't give a shit.

But also, other people have hammers too.

If I do black magic on someone evil who hurts and destroys others, will it come back to me 10x? Is there an exception for cases like this?

I don't like the term "black magic" for like a ton of cultural reasons and implications, but we'll put that aside for the moment.

Magic, like a hammer, has no implicit morality. Destruction or creation makes no difference to the hammer. It's still just a hammer. Hammers don't judge because hammers don't care. They're hammers.

The only moral reckoning that's going to happen is from yourself.

And also the law of return was made up by Monique Wilson, so don't fucking worry about it.

[elminx]

Because this was in my notes today...The Threefold Law is not universal - if you don't believe in it, it doesn't affect you. I'm sorry if you want to believe that it does affect people who don't believe - but I promise that it doesn't.

The proof is in the pudding - there are MANY cultures that practice cursing without it reverting back on them. Sure, there are always SOME consequences to cursing - that's why you need to cleanse yourself and the space that you cursed in after you're done. The most common side effect I've heard from people who curse is bad skin and personal malaise (you feel bad for a few days but don't know why). This is because you use a lot of negative emotion to curse (most times) and you tend to sit in whatever you have created.

Ergo, and I believe this strongly: belief in the Three-fold law causes you to curse YOURSELF when you curse somebody else. Because YOU BELIEVE that it will come back on you and, as a result, you manifest the bad into your own life.

This is, of course, an oversimplification. There are circumstances on which your own magic may rebound on you for other reasons - most commonly you cursed a well-protected target who knows how to return your own shit to you.

Cursing is actually deceptively simple and you definitely don't need to be an expert witch to pull it off. And if you can forget about it, it may be, in some cases, the most foolproof spell you'll cast. But casting a solid curse that finds its target, does the intended consequence, and is unshakeable/unable to be sent back to you? That's much more complicated magic and takes a much higher level of finesse.

[yourwitchmama]

Do hexes really come back to bite you? The Threefold Law

Also known as “the Rule of Three,” the Threefold Law is part of many, but not all Wiccan/witchy traditions. It states that every magical act sent out into the Universe—whether positive or negative—will be returned to the Witch three times. This is somewhat akin to the concept of karma found in some Eastern religions, but with a Western twist, as it applies a specific equation (“three times”) to the return of the energy sent out by the practitioner. Just what does “three times” mean, however? Some people believe that the magical work will be returned in three individual instances. For example, if you worked a harmful spell against someone you dislike, you could end up experiencing bad luck on three different occasions (a car breakdown, a horrible day at work, and burning your dinner, to name three random possibilities). Others interpret “three times” to be a multiplier, meaning that the consequences for you will be three times stronger than the intention you sent out. So you might end up with far worse luck than car trouble or a bad day! The origins of the Threefold Law are a bit murky, but the idea is generally traced back to Gerald Gardner, who raised it in his early fictional work about Witchcraft, but did not include it as a major part of his teachings. Later Witches who learned from Gardner’s initiates—most notably Raymond Buckland—brought the concept into more widespread awareness. It is also referred to in the long poem known as the Wiccan Rede, which contains adages and advice regarding magical traditions and spiritual beliefs. Nonetheless, there were many others involved in the origins of Wicca who did not encounter teachings on the Threefold Law, and who doubted that there was a special karmic rule that involves the number 3 and only applies to Witches. Today, some Wiccans view it as just a playful elaboration on the ethical stance against causing others harm. Others take it quite literally, while still others pay it no mind at all. Those who dismiss the Threefold Law generally point to other concepts—namely, the Law of Cause and Effect and the Law of Return—as being more accurate explanations for the karmic exchange involved in magick. At the very least, the Threefold Law serves to remind us that there are consequences to our actions—whether those consequences come in “threes” or not!

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The Power of White Magic Spells

The Power of White Magic Spells: Unveiling Weight Loss Spells and Spell RemovalThe Power of White Magic Spells

In the realm of magic and mysticism, white magic spells have long been a source of fascination and wonder. These spells are often associated with benevolence, healing, and positive transformations. In this article, we will explore the world of white magic, focusing on two specific aspects: weight loss spells and spell removal. While white magic is commonly used for good, it is essential to understand its principles, limitations, and ethical considerations.

Understanding White Magic

White magic, also known as “light magic” or “good magic,” is a branch of magic that seeks to harness positive, constructive energies for the betterment of oneself or others. Unlike black magic, which is associated with malevolent intentions and harmful spells, white magic is guided by principles of love, healing, protection, and spiritual growth.

The fundamental tenet of white magic is the Law of Threefold Return, which states that any energy or intention sent out into the universe will return to the sender three times as powerful. This concept underscores the importance of using white magic responsibly and ethically, as it emphasizes the consequences of one’s actions.

Weight Loss Spells: A Quest for Health and Wellness

Weight loss spells, a subset of white magic, are sought after by individuals on a journey to improve their physical health and well-being. It is important to note that weight loss spells are not a shortcut to achieving fitness goals; instead, they are intended to support and enhance one’s commitment to a healthy lifestyle. Here are some key aspects of weight loss spells:

Positive Intentions: Weight loss spells should be cast with positive intentions, such as achieving a healthier weight, improving self-esteem, and boosting confidence. They should not be used with the aim of achieving an unrealistic or unhealthy body image.

Visualization: Visualization is a crucial element in weight loss spells. Practitioners often use meditation and visualization techniques to see themselves as healthy, fit, and vibrant individuals.

Incorporating Natural Elements: Many weight loss spells incorporate natural elements like herbs, crystals, and essential oils known for their beneficial properties. For example, rose quartz may be used to promote self-love and acceptance, while cinnamon might be employed to boost metabolism.

Healthy Lifestyle: Weight loss spells are most effective when combined with a balanced diet, regular exercise, and a commitment to making healthy choices. Magic should be seen as a complementary tool rather than a sole solution.

Spell Removal: Dispelling Negative Energies

On the flip side of white magic, spell removal is a practice that seeks to eliminate or neutralize negative spells, hexes, or curses that may have been cast upon an individual. It is important to emphasize that spell removal is considered an act of defense and protection rather than an offensive action. Here are some key aspects of spell removal:

Identifying Negative Energies: The first step in spell removal is identifying the presence of negative energies or the effects of a curse or hex. This may involve feelings of chronic bad luck, ill health, or persistent negative influences.

Consulting a Practitioner: Spell removal is often performed by experienced practitioners, such as psychics, mediums, or energy healers, who have the knowledge and skills to address negative energies.

Cleansing and Protection: The removal process typically involves a series of rituals, prayers, and energy cleansing techniques to dispel the negative influences and protect the individual from future harm.

Karmic Considerations: Practitioners of white magic believe in the importance of ethical actions and the Law of Threefold Return. Therefore, spell removal should only be undertaken when genuinely necessary and with the intention of defense rather than harm.

Ethical Considerations and Responsibility

While white magic spells, including weight loss spells and spell removal, can offer guidance and support in various aspects of life, they come with ethical considerations. Practitioners of white magic emphasize the importance of responsible use of their abilities, ensuring that their actions align with the principles of love, compassion, and harmlessness.

Free Will: White magic respects the concept of free will. It is unethical to cast spells that interfere with the free will of others or attempt to control their actions or emotions.

Respect for Nature: Practitioners of white magic often have a deep reverence for nature and the elements. Spells that harm the environment or exploit natural resources are considered unethical.

Karmic Consequences: As mentioned earlier, the Law of Threefold Return emphasizes that the energy one sends out into the universe will return threefold. Therefore, it is crucial to consider the consequences of one’s actions and intentions.

Informed Consent: When performing spells for others, practitioners should seek informed consent and ensure that the individual understands the nature and purpose of the spell.

Conclusion

White magic spells, whether related to weight loss or spell removal, are a testament to the power of intention, positive energy, and the human spirit’s capacity for transformation and healing. These practices are rooted in a deep respect for the natural world, ethical considerations, and a commitment to using magic for the greater good.

As individuals explore the world of white magic, it is essential to approach it with responsibility, humility, and a genuine desire to make positive changes in their lives. White magic spells can be a source of inspiration, guidance, and support on one’s spiritual journey, promoting physical and emotional well-being while upholding the principles of love and compassion.

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To Free Doctors From Computers, Far-Flung Scribes Are Now Taking Notes For Them

Podiatrist Dr. Mark Lewis greets his first patient of the morning in his suburban Seattle exam room and points to a tiny video camera mounted on the right rim of his glasses. “This is my scribe, Jacqueline,” he says. “She can see us and hear us.”

Jacqueline is watching the appointment on her computer screen after the sun has set, 8,000 miles away in Mysore, a southern Indian city known for its palaces and jasmine flowers. She copiously documents the details of each visit and enters them into the patient’s electronic health record, or EHR.

Jacqueline (her real first name, according to her employer), works for San Francisco-based Augmedix, a startup with 1,000 medical scribes in South Asia and the U.S. The company is part of a growing industry that profits from a confluence of health care trends — including, now, the pandemic — that are dispersing patient care around the globe.

Medical scribes first appeared in the 1970s as note takers for emergency room physicians. But the practice took off after 2009, when the federal HITECH Act incentivized health care providers to adopt EHRs. These were supposed to simplify patient record-keeping, but instead they generated a need for scribes. Doctors find entering notes and data into poorly designed EHR software cumbersome and time-consuming. So scribing is a fast-growing field in the U.S., with the workforce expanding from 15,000 in 2015 to an estimated 100,000 this year.

A 2016 study found that doctors spent 37% of a patient visit on a computer and an average of two extra hours after work on EHR tasks. EHR use contributes to physician burnout, increasingly considered a public health crisis in itself.

Before COVID-19, most scribes — typically young, aspiring health professionals — worked in the exam room a few paces away from the doctor and patient. This year, as the pandemic led patients to shun clinics and hospitals, many scribes were laid off or furloughed. Many have returned, but scribes are increasingly working online — even from the other side of the world.

Remote scribes are patched into the exam room’s sound via a tablet or speaker, or through a video connection. Some create doctors’ notes in real time; others annotate after visits. And some have help from speech-recognition software programs that grow more accurate with use.

While many remote scribes are based in the United States, others are abroad, primarily in India. Chanchal Toor was a dental school graduate facing limited job opportunities in India when a subcontractor to Augmedix hired her in 2015. Some of her scribe colleagues also trained or aspired to become dentists or other health professionals, she said. Now a manager for Augmedix in San Francisco, Toor said scribing, even remotely, made her feel like part of a health care team.

Augmedix recruits people who have a bachelor’s degree or the equivalent, and screens for proficiency in English reading, listening comprehension and writing, the company said. Once on board, scribes undergo about three months of training. The curriculum includes medical terminology, anatomy, physiology and mock visits.

Revenue has grown this year, and his sales team has grown from four to 14 members, Augmedix CEO Manny Krakaris said. Sachin Gupta, CEO of IKS Health, which employs Indian doctors as remote scribes for their U.S. counterparts, projects 50% revenue growth this year for its scribing business. He said the company employs 4,000 people but declined to share how many are scribes.

Remote scribe “Edwin” gives internist Dr. Susan Fesmire more time, freeing her from having to finish 20 charts at the end of every day. “It was like constantly having homework that you don’t finish,” she said. With the help of “Edwin” — Fesmire said he declines to use his real name — she had the time and energy to become chief operating officer of her small Dallas practice. Edwin works for Physicians Angels, which employs 500 remote scribes in India. Fesmire pays $14 an hour for his services.

Doctors with foreign scribes say notes may need minor editing for dialectal differences and scribes may be unfamiliar with local vocabulary. “I had a patient from Louisiana,” said Fesmire, “and Edwin said afterward, ‘What is chicory, doctor?’” But she also praised his notes as more accurate and complete than her own.

Kevin Brady, president of Physicians Angels, said their scribes start at $500 to $600 per month, plus health care and retirement benefits, while senior scribes make $1,000 to $1,500 — middle-class family incomes in India. Employers are required to provide employees with health insurance, although many scribes are contractors, and the job site Indeed.com says the average salary for a scribe in India is $500 a month. Scribes in the U.S. get about $2,500.

Remote scribing is still a small part of the market. Craig Newman, chief strategy officer of HealthChannels, parent to ScribeAmerica, the largest scribing company in the U.S., said that the firm’s remote scribing business has increased threefold since the pandemic’s outset but that “a large majority” of the company’s 26,000 U.S. scribes still work in person.

It’s a highly unregulated industry for which training and certification aren’t required. The service typically costs physicians $12 to $25 an hour, and studies show scribe use is linked to less time on patient documentation, higher job satisfaction and seeing more patients — which can mean more revenue.

For patients, studies suggest scribes have a positive or neutral effect on satisfaction. Some have privacy concerns, though, and state laws vary on whether a patient must be notified that someone is watching and listening many miles away.

Only 1% of patients refuse a remote scribe when asked by physicians at Massachusetts General Physicians Organization, said Dr. David Ting, the practice’s chief medical information officer. His group, an IKS Health client, always seeks patient consent, Ting said.

Scribes aren’t for everyone, though. Janis Ulevich, a retiree in Palo Alto, California, declines her primary care doctor’s remote scribe. “Conversations with your doctor can be intimate,” said Ulevich. “I don’t like other people listening in.”

Some patients may not have the opportunity to decline. With limited exceptions, federal laws like HIPAA, the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996, don’t require doctors to seek a patient’s consent before sharing their health information with a company that supports the practice’s work (like a scribe firm), as long as that company signed a contract agreeing to protect the patient’s data, said Chris Apgar, a former HIPAA compliance officer.

About one-quarter of U.S. states require all parties in a conversation to agree to be recorded, meaning they require a patient’s permission. Some states also have special privacy protections for certain groups, like people with HIV/AIDS, or very strict informed-consent or privacy laws, said Matt Fisher, a partner at Massachusetts law firm Mirick O’Connell.

Remote scribing also raises cybersecurity concerns. Reported data breaches are rare, but some scribe companies have lax security, said Cliff Baker, CEO of the health care cybersecurity firm Corl Technologies.

The next step in the trend could be no human scribes at all. Tech giants like Google, EHR companies and venture-backed startups are developing or already marketing artificial intelligence tools aimed at reducing or eliminating the need for humans to document visits.

AI and scribes won’t eliminate physician burnout that stems from the nature of the health care system, said Dr. Rebekah Gardner, an associate professor of medicine at Brown University who researches the issue. Neither can take on burnout-driving EHR tasks like submitting requests for insurance company approval of procedures, drugs and tests, she said.

This KHN story first published on California Healthline, a service of the California Health Care Foundation.

Kaiser Health News (KHN) is a national health policy news service. It is an editorially independent program of the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation which is not affiliated with Kaiser Permanente.

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