#Twisted wonderland theory

[twisted-wonderland-but-gayer]

Everyone knows by now Ramshackle is actually Mickey's house from Epic Mickey,

However, I played the remake demo and learned that

1) Mickey has created Blot

2) The paintbrush weapon has the ability to thin blot but also make blots friendly and fight on your side

3) The paintbrush can create and erase the environment around it

4) Mickey appears to have absorbed or is made of blot to an extent.

Yuu now has the paintbrush. The potential here. Imagine Yuu was actually made of blot their whole life and never knew. The angst. The horror. Maybe they were feeding on the overblots or caused them. Maybe they can be used as some magestone. Maybe we can cure blot or heal it. This could mean a lot for Idia's curse.

My brain is spinning rn

[ashieeeesh]

GUYS I KNEW THE COSTUME LOOKS FAMILIAR ITS FROM DIAVAL FROM THE MOVIE MALIFICENT HSJDJNSBS

[somecoolpigeon]

If this theory turns out to be true, I hope the game allows Lilia to wring Crowley’s neck as a response alshfjdhsk

[rayroseu]

I love how Meleanor's dragon form can serve as little hints about how Malleus grew up as a dragon🥹💚🐉🦎

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Comparing the frills on their cheeks... it seems like their frills grows with age and gets lighter and more connected to their eyes, it seems to get more purple skin/highlights as well.

In contrast to Meleanor's adult dragon form with hard scales, Little Malleus seem to have softer skin/scales, so i think their hard scales develop over time too. Also their snout gets more patterned too.

The spikes on their backs seems to separate as they get larger. Looking at Little Malleus, he has spikes that are close to each other yet on Meleanor's spikes, they're kind of sectioned in her head, torso, and her tail.

Their horns grows darker as it gets taller. Its noticeable on the horns of their head and on the wings.

Their horns also get more ridges over their development! Since Baby Malleus has smooth horns but now in Malleus' grown up form and Meleanor's, its more textured.

I think their horns are purple at the start then starts to get dark green??? Both Meleanor and Malleus' horns in card art always have green highlights after all.

I wonder if they're more green-colored in their human form bcs it symbolizes their empathy and how they're more humane and how connected to nature they are, but when they're in their dragon form, that green-color is reserved only in their internal organs (eyes and mouth), so "they shut their kindness off".

As a result, their form is mostly dark purple on their dragon form, the color of (evil?) void magic. So, its like when theyre in their dragon form, they're encasing their empathy inside to showcase how cruel/sinister they actually are, it could also convey that in their dragon form, they're not channelling their "fae magic" but their controlled power over "darkness/evil/hell"

Malleus after all said, he's the ruler of those who follow the darkness, Meleanor is the evil princess, and Maleficent has all the powers of hell.

Also I realized Meleanor (based on the Battle pic), might be as big as a entire castle and that's just her at ~300 years old... She looks like she could wrap her own castle with just her dragon form lol.. So I'm really curious at how massive Malleus dragon form is... Maybe its Ramshackle size for now since he's just 178 years old so might not be a dragon at a size of an entire castle yet-

These are just my thoughts after staring at Meleanor for so long kwhkdhsk also bcs I want more Baby Malleus content,,,, It's what Meleanor would've wished😔😔 especially the time where he first transformed into a human🥺💕💝 I think it'll be precious to see Baby Malleus clutching to Lilia for dear life because he can't balance on two human legs jdkdhlssj🥹🥹💝💖💖 Imagine Lilia's surprise seeing Meleanor's horns on their kid as soon as Malleus transformed to a human,,, 🥹🥹🥹 Levan, where are your genes...

[raven-at-the-writing-desk]

JUST realized Lilia wasn’t in lost in the book with nbc because he’s so old he might have actually known or recognized skully. Crazy stuff

YOU’RE RIGHT… 😭 It’d be insane if Skully was a student at NRC at the same time Lilia was still serving as a general in Briar Valley… OR MAYBE… they crossed paths on their travels???? Because Lilia went out into the world to find a way to hatch a dragon egg, and Skully globe trotted to spread the joy of Halloween all over Twisted Wonderland.

THERE IS A NON-ZERO CHANCE THAT LILIA AND SKULLY HAVE MET.

Man. Imagine Lilia casually telling the Diasomnia kids about Skully. “Oh, the King of Halloween? Yeah, I met him. We partied hard too.” Sebek listening in, not realizing that he, too, has also met Skully before and spoken with him about their respect and adoration for their own idols, how it feels to find the flaws in their idols and how they have to learn to accept them regardless… Aaaah, what a missed connection 😔

[heiworld]

Riddle roseheart without trauma is so cute 😭😭😭😭

CHAPTER 7 SPOILERS

LOOK AT HIM BABY 😭😭😭

I need headcanons of him in this AU ☹️

[libraryraccoon]

Mickey creating the overblots theory

Okay, so idk if people have already talk of this theory before, if someone did, please tag me because I haven't see any-

TW : english isn't my first language so there will be some error, I don't remember too much of the game Epic Mickey so there may be some errors.

The theory :

We all know that, in Epic Mickey, Mickey go in another world with a mirror, right ? And that he play with a magic pen that create after something full of ink.

What if that other world was Twisted Wonderland ?

I mean, the mirrors are the same.

And the overblot, especially the phantom behind them, look like ink.

And we know that the mirror can let people change of worlds.

It's like that that Mickey go in the wizard workshop, take the pen and create the monster. And it's also that mirror that show to Yuu/MC the Sevens in the movies we know. So the mirror is connect with other worlds.

We can also see that the ink go to one place in the map/world that the wizard create.

What if that place was the NRC ? Or the Sage Island ? And this is why so much people overblot.

And, for stopping the overblot, Yuu/MC will have to find the magical pen and use it.

That was the theory that pop in my mind- idk if someone have already made it but yeah-

I love the idea of Mickey, coming in Twisted Wonderland, creating the Overblots, and letting someone from another world, Yuu/MC, dealing with it when Mickey is back in his own world.

And if Mickey is on our side, when he realize what he have (unintentionally) done, go back in Twisted Wonderland for helping us stopping the overblot.

[sleepy-n-thinkin-stuff]

Need people to realize either way, this card/update can be a Cater angst gold mine

It's either

A, Cater is envious to Riddle in some way, adding to the ways he's already envious of Riddle. He wants a position where he can be fully himself, judging by the fact he's eating, on his phone, is a judge, and even has a skateboard. In this dream Cater, as housewarden, can pretty much do whatever he wants. He doesn't have to be a magicam obsessed pretty boy who likes sweets, he can be himself. He can be like people view Riddle, as just being himself.

Or

B, Cater was housewarden at some point, and might have even been who Riddle challenged. If this is true, we can see in his dream Cater remembers that life and wants it. He wants to return to a position where he was finally in control and not catering (no pun intended) to others all the time. As housewardwn he had authority and power, and could be more like himself.

Either way we both know it's going to be a mess when he wakes up and the illusion is broken, and he's right back into the life of being Cay-Cay and not Cater Diamond.

[smokesandsonatas]

did you saw book 7 😭😭😭😭 its was such an emotional ride especially malleus with his broken horn, do you think it will grow back?

Hi! Yes I love it! It's an ending truly fitting for Diasomnia (though I wish they grounded it a bit more on reality) and it left more room for more answers. I'll try to combine some asks here.

Crack theories ahead.

Where's Malleus' birth father?

It's confirmed that Malleus doesn't really have enough parental figure growing up, hence he's really attached to Lilia, the only one who is willing to let him have a semblance of normalcy. Malefecia is most likely still grieving her lost daughter, while simultaneously ruling the kingdom. I do like to hc that she loves Malleus in her own ways, albeit not as openly as Lilia.

His birth father is probably still alive. No confirmation of his death, no apparitions via Lilia's magic. He's just... out there. Trying to achieve his dreams of uniting every species.

Will Malleus' horn grow back?

I'm pretty sure it will, they said that it'll take a span of 200 years (?) and that he's guaranteed to "not" overblot during that time, though I need to confirm if what I've read is true. But! I do think something will happen that will push Malleus to the limits. Again. His horns = power. Something is about to happen that is so heartbreaking that Malleus doesn't have a choice but to seek more. Aka, Yuu leaving

Is Lilia strong enough to live a few more hundred years?

I think yes. He actually died, he was just revived by the power of love. Literally. Hopefully it did reset his fae lifespan, adding another 800 years.

What's more?

We still don't know what's the purpose of Mickey appearing every time someone might overblot.

Yuu is the biggest mystery of twst. If it's possible to a trap a powerful Fae into a game, what makes it impossible to not trap a multidimensional being into a one dimension?

Grim and his stones. Grim is most likely related to the ancient magician from 2,000 years ago in Sage Island that is said to have caused a catastrophic event, yet not disowned by its master.

Crowley and even RSA. Book 8 might focus on Yuu, but it might also focus on the player staying at RSA. Remember, there are top 5 mages in the world, one of them is Malleus. Who are the other 4? How powerful are they compared to Malleus, who being a young, inexperienced fae, have already caused such events spanning the realm of dreams, and literally the whole Sage Island?

That's what we need to find out. :))

[veilofthorns]

My "who made Grim" theory

CONCLUSION: Crowly made grim as an experiment with direbeasts and blot. The question is, why?

[yeasty-toast]

TWST book 8 theory

(Probs doesn’t make much sense, I was rambling)

I’m sure by now most if not longtime players are familiar with the Grim overblot theory (which looks inevitable now) but I think that both Grim and Yuu will OB at the same time (the two of them being considered one student and all)

I saw someone post a theory recently (here) they mentioned about how Yuu might be able to use ‘old magic’ which is obtained from a deep desire/wish, which I think’ll happen at the end of book 7 during the final face off with Malleus.

Yuu being able to use magic would be a good starting/driving point for book 8

Combining them now being able to use magic and the very likely negative feelings of being stuck in a foreign world for about over half a year and being forced to help/deal with OBs (which I imagine is pretty traumatizing). Not only that but there’s been basically no progress in finding a way to send them home. All of that basically gives Yuu the ingredients to OB

It would also be a good way to show how far the main cast has come, it was thanks to Yuu, who helped with the overblots by getting all of the students to start working together, and now they have to work together to save Yuu and Grim

I just think an OB Yuu would be a really interesting plot point to explore all things considered

(Sorry if this doesn’t make much sense lol, I’m no good at properly organizing my thoughts)

[silverryuan]

Okay, so about Chapter 7...

Remember the brief introduction of the characters from when you at the start of the game?

I kept wondering why you have to choose whose hand are you going to take from the mirror at the beginning of the prologue before getting isekai'd to Twisted Wonderland...

Then a theory popped in my head. What if...

The same character's hand that you chose to take from the beginning is the same character that's gonna save you from Malleus or Overblotted Grim or when you yourself Overblots.

[ashieeeesh]

Im just thinking about how the M/C name is YUU. In the manga, im pretty sure that the Yuu is based on the dorm leaders, like how the yuu in azul's chapter represents the old him. Its like a mirror them but happier. Coz when MC introduces themselves is like "Hi i am Yuu" its like saying i am the version of you. What you could've been if you didn't experience the trauma you had or smt. Idk if that made sense i dont know how to explain well im sorry 😭😭

Edit: i remember this quote from somewhere it goes "i am all you could have been, and you are all i might be." Its literally the vibes of every yuu and dormleader 😭😭

[jeatenis]

so uhhhh

Hear me out. What if Ace’s signature spell is what helps us leave twst?

‘Goodbye from Wonderland’

the spell basically sends someone back to where their heart belongs.

‘Close your eyes, feel reality unfold around you, say your last words, for they will be your ‘Goodbye from Wonderland’’.

or something like uhhh

‘Set your heart where it belongs, your mind will remember. This is where we will part, for this is our Goodbye from Wonderland’.

cause even tho ace is yk, a heart card soldier, he also represents alice in a way, finding everything the quern (riddle) does, call the queen out, insults her, and riddle tries to get his head.

[rayroseu]

HEAD IN HANDS,,,, Just realized the profound realization that at Knight of Dawn and Meleanor's fight, I know they'll never talk it out... But I just realized that the story even expresses that fact visually....

throughout their fight and even until their death, they stayed at their "masked" form.

So, in Knight of Dawn's view, Meleanor was just a dragon and why the story makes it seem like he's just "insensitive" to the fact she's a living person too, because in that fight, he viewed her a monstrous dragon because Meleanor fought him as that. And, Dawn as a human, can't possibly interpret Meleanor's language as a dragon, much like how Humans are inept in fae language and why humans are still having a difficult time understanding faes and their morals.

The same thing with Meleanor, Knight of Dawn was in full armor in that time, so in Meleanor's point of view, Knight of Dawn was just "a piece of metals". (Like how Malleus viewed Ortho as just a "metallic technology"). Additionally, Knight of Dawn was a person who seem to want to say many things but never did(?), so Meleanor never heard him—

So their resistance, in giving up their role was expressed in the narrative decision that Meleanor fights as a dragon and Knight of Dawn will fight her in full armor and also he's a person who doesn't speak much especially in battles (much like a "metal").

Dawn was only "understood" somewhat when he crashed to Lilia, causing his head armor to fall off.... causing his "mask" to fall off

Its the little things to me OKAYY 🥹🥹😭😭

[raven-at-the-writing-desk]

sept 2024 4koma update

No updates for the usual manga adaptations! Only a 4koma update this month!

This time it features Cater (and his clones) playing basketball with the Basketball Club members. While playing, Cater also focuses on filming himself for Magicam.

During the course of the comic, we learn that the teachers would never allow for Cater to use his UM for class. However, Cater brings out a clone if there is an odd number of students per class and they need to partner up. (Usually it’s Idia, lol) The problem with this is that Cater doesn’t have the endurance to keep his clone around for the entire class, so it usually poofs halfway through.

Vargas cameos at the end to train them all even harder. Cater bails on Ace, Floyd, and Jamil, leaving them to their fates. Scummy of him, but very in-character 😂

This particular update made me realize how much continuity there is in the 4koma. For example:

Cater states that he and Idia are the same class. This is true; they are both in Class 3-B.

Floyd expresses annoyance and anger when Ace comments that he and Jade are the same because they are twins. This is something that Floyd has historically disliked, demonstrated in the Beans Day event as well as his own School Uniform vignette.

Cater is shown using his UM. When his clones vanish, he disappears in a cloud of playing cards. This was first depicted in the Episode of Heartslabyul manga and implies that this is how his UM works in all interpretations. One discrepancy, however, is that in the Episode of Heartslabyul manga, all the cards are diamond suits. In the 4koma, the suits are varied—you can see hearts, spades, and clubs in addition to diamonds. (A friend theorized that the Heartslabyul manga is pre-Riddle OB and the 4koma is post-Riddle OB; in that time, Cater has realized the value of friendship and so the suits represented on his cards changed. But that’s just a theory—a gaaaaame theory!)

Cater has used his UM in other physical activities to get the upper hand or to get the task done faster. For example, to paint the roses or to get running his laps done sooner.

With all this continuity going on, maybe we can take some of the lore drops in the 4koma as basically canon? 🤔 (Like how certain characters are in certain courses together!)