#Turaga Nui

[crystaltoa]

@magicalgirlmascot @legend-as-old-as-time

The Toa Kaita experience the arrival of a strange creature in their pocket dimension

[legend-as-old-as-time]

@magicalgirlmascot

@crystaltoa

This is brainstorming and speculating for an alternative route for how the fight could go with the Golden-Skinned Being.

Maybe the Piraka fought / met Turaga Nui before. The Golden-Skinned Being gloats, thinking they know everything the six current turaga can do-

A dense weight crashes into their face.

Confused and nearly having gotten a concussion, they aren't prepared when a massive dragon lunges for their face.

The turaga repeated their opening attack from their fight against the Rahi Nui, but did it intentionally this time. They hid their fusion behind an illusion and / or invisibility / manipulation of the air. Unseen, they created a massive rock ball that they threw with all of Onewa's vollbeyball expertise at the GSB's head.

Then they go for the mauling.

It might not work or feel too powerful regarding fusions. And it removes a bit of the WTF factor from the Golden-Skinned Being's reaction to witnessed just what the turaga fuse into. But it's fun to think about, and it's something the turaga would do to get an advantage over the GSB.

[rahiwatching]

Ravenous - Additional Dark Hunter Entry, Dictated by the Shadowed One

On occasion, Toa have fallen from grace and joined the ranks of my Hunters. Sometimes, even a lowly Matoran has proven their worth and become an asset to the organisation, but never before has a Turaga ever come under my employ. Until Ravenous that is. But then again, Ravenous is no mere Turaga.

Energised Protodermis is a coveted substance for the Brotherhood of Makuta, and one that I have endeavoured to keep out of their claws whenever possible in my thousand year long war against them. So when word of the discovery of a new pool reached my chamber, I dispatched my closest Hunter in the field to secure it. Unfortunately, a group of 6 Turaga had also discovered the pool, and objected to my claim upon it.

Knowing their pitiful abilities were no match for my operative, they fused their bodies and minds to form a Turaga Nui, and in the ensuing battle both Turaga Nui and Dark Hunter fell into the pool. The Dark Hunter was destroyed by the Protodermis, but that was not the destiny of the Turaga Nui, who emerged from the pool to find their fusion had become permanent.

The delusional creature actually rejoiced at this, seeing it as a reward from the Great Spirit for their unity, and believing that this new power meant that their shared dream of returning to a life of heroism could now be fulfilled. But, they forgot that Mata Nui sleeps, and in a such a restless sleep as his, a dream can quickly become a nightmare.

Fusions, by their very nature, take a great deal of energy to maintain. It is why they are usually so short lived. This new fusion was about to find out that breaking this norm has its consequences.

Half way to the nearest settlement, the Turaga Nui became hungry.

When it reached the village, that hunger had turned… Ravenous.

By the time a second party of Dark Hunters had been dispatched to investigate the first’s disappearance, they found a village littered with the dead, every Matoran killed and drained dry of their life energies. In the centre of the carnage they found the Turaga Nui, its hunger temporarily satisfied but its mind driven mad with guilt over what it had done. Like so many others before it, the being now known as Ravenous could never return to the life it once knew, and so found its place amongst my Hunters.

Powers:

Ravenous has limited control over the elements of Plasma, Ice, Earth, Iron, Lightning and Psionics, but makes up for their reduced power with the wide range of possibilities that 6 separate elements provide.

When kept well fed, their combined millennia of battle experience makes them a formidable foe to my enemies, and their ability to utilise the powers of the noble Calix, Huna, Kakama, Sanok, Akaku and Kiril separately or in combination makes them an incredibly adaptable operative.

But if starved, Ravenous becomes an unstoppable beast, tearing through enemy ranks and devouring felled opponents with a savagery that even makes some of their fellow Hunters take pause.

Status:

I tend to place Ravenous on missions that keep them engaged with the forces of the Brotherhood rather than against Toa or Matoran, lest what is left of their moral code intervene with a mission that in their former life they may have found unsavoury.

I have just dispatched them to an island south of Odina to prevent the Brotherhood from establishing a foothold there. Finding their force of Rahkshi destroyed and the Kraata within reduced to withered husks should give the Makuta pause for thought in our next engagement…

[legend-as-old-as-time]

Onewa's not embarrassed but he's regularly caught of guard when after, he realizes he initiated affectionate contact without any pretense. Or how nice it feels to be more affectionate in general. He does get flustered now and then, however, as well as overwhelmed to know that the others care that much about him and he cares that much back. It's more the vulnerability that gets him.

Vakama's embarrassed and soaks every bit more of affection up.

Nuju's embarrassed and secrety very pleased and happy knowing that the others care that much about him. Which isn't that much of a secret anymore with the other turaga.

Wairuha and Akamai respectively combine from people who are friends with each other, while in love with one of the three people creating the other Kaita. Tien is the only fusion known where all six are involved in some romantic relationship with another person who is also in the fusion, except for Onewa. Somebody curious WILL ask how that feels like.

I feel like one of the romantics--Lewa, Gali, or Pohatu--would be the one to ask. Lewa and Pohatu would ask Onewa, Lewa because he's curious about how Onewa feels specifically as the only one not dating anyone else in the fusion and Pohatu to razz him a little. Gali would ask the office team. Not that she's being nosy! She's just curious! (Lewa snickering behind her back)

I think generally it's kind of weird only in hindsight, post-fusion. When they're Tien, there's just an overwhelming feeling of care, of togetherness. It feels right. Whole. In the aftermath, though, I think all six Turaga are a good bit more affectionate with each other. In whatever form that takes for them. Nuju isn't very physically affectionate except with Whenua, but he's less likely to push away Matau, who is more likely to give him affectionate little side hugs than usual. That sort of thing.

Some Turaga (Vakama, Nuju) are more embarrassed than others (Matau).

[vrahno]

Finally a Bionicle animation. I drew a vague concept of this back in 2011. Took a while to get it done.

[ohlookitsanartist]

"Passing the Torch"

Made in honor of the 20th anniversary of the second BIONICLE movie

[toomanyinterestsart]

FUNNY UPDATE ON THE BIOSECTOR01 WIKI

So I went there to see Nuju's design and...just go look up the Turaga part at the start of his profile

Nuju - BIONICLEsector01

[legend-as-old-as-time]

first thing this idea conjured for me was mata nui waking up, looking around somewhat frantically for a while and then going (calm yet increasingly panicked) "i fucking lost vakama"

*wheezing from laughter* The Turaga / Toa of Fire has made himself accidentally invisible while asleep.

wonderful news! the animal grandparents have their powers again! horrible news! they are awful little bastard beasts with a penchant for new and exciting ways to fuck up the law even when theyre trying to abide to it and once they realize they have them back they will use these abilities for evil -> Advanced Cat Shenanigans

This and the following paragraph made me go, "Yes, again shenanigans and chaos of the Toa Metru Brand!" Nokama's going to live her best life, unlearning the harmful ideas of purity and just cussing somebody out.

These reminded me of ideas for this very AU, inspired by @crystaltoa's ideas for shenanigans in KNPS with the turaga where Matau and Vakama do some illusion fuckery. Also, by our conversation in your fic Are You The Great Spirit?, with the idea of Mata Nui starting a game of Rhetoric Nonsense with the turaga.

Matau and Vakama do Advanced Illusion Fuckery here. Either of them could be using either illusions and / or invisibility, and you don't know who or when. Add the manipulation of air and heat, if you'll allow them more fine control in their elemental powers, and you've got Fata Morganas.

Ice slides with actual water between Nokama and Nuju, with perfect calculated drops and loop-de-loops for best acceleration to shoot somebody over a chasm!!

Matau, Vakama, and Nokama, my infiltration dream team. (I have more, but these were the most concrete ideas!!)

how DOES mata nui unlock that. hm. i have the idea that he is connected to takanuva via code (got too excited about the little guy being made to help him and accidentally left a bit of himself in the coding when he snuck off to see it) so maybe something similar, just dipping into the connection he has w the metru through having chosen them. hes deleting things that could bother them and doesnt notice he enabled mask powers on again. whoops.

Hmm! What if Mata Nui left a bit of himself here too, but intentionally. Bits of code, dormant as he never had the chance to do more, but now are activating with contact with him. Which are battling with the more recent changes by the visorak venom. These were Simply Not A Thing when Mata Nui chose the Toa Metru. They're not quite compatible. The changes also affect their ability to focus, which connects to Mata Nui's code => Headaches.

The Toa Hordika would've figured it. Their brains would've adapted, the code integrated, granting the access to their mask powers (and other things). Mata Nui shortens the adaption process by at least several months and hundreds of days of migraines.

tags by OP

OH. OH. Accidentally fusing into Tien! <3<3

I have a headcanon that Toa Nui are always disabled. (Likely by the Great Beings). And if they were not, there are still many requirements, plus the danger of that much power collapsing, and / or the individual minds not surviving the fusion. It is possible, but improbable. Maybe the differences as Toa Hordika make it so that Tien doesn't pass over that threshold. They are theoretically a Toa Nui, but function more like a Turaga Nui. As Toa Metru, they either couldn't fuse into Tien - but that's too sad - or they're still with the same limits. (As for why they even fused: Mata Nui accidentally lifted the restriction for a Toa Nui. Add mutual telepathy, and Tien gave the middle finger to how a Toa Nui is 'supposed' to be.)

hes deleting things that could bother them and doesnt notice he enabled mask powers on again. whoops. stressed toa hagah voice WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHOOPS--

The Toa Hagah know the Shenanigans and Chaos the Toa Hordika started. And Tien is All Of Them Combined, the Pinnacle.

But also: The Temptation of the Ferret Dragon. 🤣 The Toa Hagah just can't win.

I don't know how to call the AU:

All six of the Toa Hordika have started getting bad migraines. Mata Nui, wanting to help them find the source, reads their coding, magic, biology, and so on. He doesn't do more because he doesn't want to accidentally mess something up. But the contact does something. Or rather, activates something that was there before.

One of the consequences is that they're becoming able to use their mask powers as Toa Hordika. Not that they notice that at first. :D

This might have to do with my AU where being chosen by Mata Nui has side-effects on them.

first thing this idea conjured for me was mata nui waking up, looking around somewhat frantically for a while and then going (calm yet increasingly panicked) "i fucking lost vakama"

wonderful news! the animal grandparents have their powers again! horrible news! they are awful little bastard beasts with a penchant for new and exciting ways to fuck up the law even when theyre trying to abide to it and once they realize they have them back they will use these abilities for evil -> Advanced Cat Shenanigans

sometimes they dont even mean to, like the example above with vakama or when its a bit dark and whenua wants to help mata nui read something so he fucking flashbangs him on accident. matau and nuju def mainly use their mask powers for trouble and mayhem tho the absolute assholes. onewa is surprisingly well behaved with mind control (hes still protecting the pack and its very convenient to just blast FUCK OFF into the mind of whoever comes in and have them comply immediately) and nokama is just happy to Know Things All The Time Again. including swears. shes learning so many swears. she is stashing them away to unleash them when the time is right. she could cuss you and your next four generations into the grave with the most heavily constructed curse youve ever had the displeasure of being positively annihilated by. no one can stop her. no one can match her mastery of the art. shes too powerful

how DOES mata nui unlock that. hm. i have the idea that he is connected to takanuva via code (got too excited about the little guy being made to help him and accidentally left a bit of himself in the coding when he snuck off to see it) so maybe something similar, just dipping into the connection he has w the metru through having chosen them. hes deleting things that could bother them and doesnt notice he enabled mask powers on again. whoops.

stressed toa hagah voice WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHOOPS--

[tempelbeast]

This time we have renders of:

Kalama, Vakama and Nuhrii.

Vhisola, Nokama and Kai.

Tehutti, Midak and Whenua.

Makani, Matau and Orkahm.

Ally, Onewa, and Piatra

Mazeka, Nuju and Ehrye. I know Mazeka never was on Mata Nui. The idea is that The Order send him to secretly check on the Metru Nui Matoran on Mata Nui. He was spotted when he got grabbed by Nui-Rama. He kills it, and falls straight into Ko-Koro.

Iruini, Dume and Norik.

Dalu, Jovan and Velika.

Any thoughts?

[may-b-not]

Anyone else unfathomably pissed off with how different most noble masks are from their great variants? The only ones I could see as a reasonable transformation from one to the other are the Rau and Hau (Movie only because we don’t have a canon Turaga Lhikan set)

Everyone talks about “oh the adaptive masks don’t look anything like the Nuva ones!” At least Kopaka HAS a scope. And Tahu kinda has his grill cheeks (now spread across his entire mouth). Similar comparisons can hardly be made about the Toa Metru’s masks vs their Noble ones.

[2stepadmiral]

After arriving in Metru Nui, the Turaga began to occasionally call each of the Toa ‘brother’ or ‘sister’, partially an acknowledgment of their past lives, partially to acknowledge the success that the Toa Nuva have earned, and largely as camaraderie in the bond that they share as Toa or former Toa.

Tahu outwardly acts like it’s only right that he’d be addressed as such, trying to make others believe that he accepts it in stride, but inwardly, he is humbled by the acknowledgment. The Turaga see through his bluster and appreciate his humility.

Onua is outwardly quite humble and appreciative when it happens, but inwardly, he doesn’t quite see himself as being worthy of being addressed by such wise beings as the Turaga, who he holds in high esteem, so he usually comes off as a little bashful when he responds in kind.

The Turaga started being reluctant to call Gali ‘sister,’ largely because she reacts to the title, by pushing herself a little too hard to prove that she is worthy of the acknowledgment. She once to stayed up all night for two days while repairing an aqueduct in Ga-Metru, and when she could barely keep awake during a meeting with the Turaga, everyone immediately decided that Nokama should not call Gali sister anymore.

Kopaka typically glances at whoever called him this and slightly nods, sort of a polite acknowledgment, but those who know him best, especially Nuju, know that he is actually quite touched by the endearment, and he has to be stoic to keep up appearances. Whenua, having the best hearing, has multiple times heard Kopaka whisper ‘thank you, brother’ in response to Nuju or Vakama.

Takanuva started out being quite flustered when he was called brother by any of the elders, still being unused to being called brother even by the other Toa, but as he grew used to his powers and his responsibilities, he began to accept it in stride. He still won’t return the title, since he still uncomfortable with the idea of calling any of the Turaga by that term, but he is still moved by the respect they show him.

Lewa was delighted when they started calling him brother, But he’s also somewhat amused, often laughing when they call him that. To Lewa, it’s still difficult to imagine these wise old beings as Toa heroes, so he can’t always keep himself from laughing. Even so, he never fails to respectfully return the honorific.

The Toa Mahri have varying degrees of acceptance of the honorific. Jaller is proud to carry the title, and Hahli is eager to prove herself worthy of the honorific (though not as much as Gali). Kongo is a bit smug about it, Nuparu takes it in stride, and Hewkii tends to get sort of ‘aw, shucks’ about it. All of them are somewhat muted in their response, mostly because Nuju was the first to call them brother and sister. They all understand that Nuju calls them that as much as he does in memory of Matoro, and his regret that he never got to see his friend as a Toa and call him ‘brother’ in person. The Mahri learned the bird speak for Brother and Sister, and they always call Nuju brother right back.

And the Turaga universally agreed never to call Pohatu ‘brother’ again shortly after the first few times. After then, he began exclusively referring to the Turaga as brother or sister, always with extreme enthusiasm that the elders often find exasperating and often demanding fist bumps from any Turaga he encounters for days after. Most of them just quietly stopped calling him that, except for Onewa, who continued occasionally calling him brother when he felt he had earned it, but after Pohatu found out that Turaga Dume had been a Toa, the seven had an official meeting where they unanimously voted not to call Pohatu brother anymore. Matau still occasionally calls him that, though, because he personally thinks it’s fucking hilarious when Pohatu tries to fist bump Nuju.

[musurvivalistguide]

So because I'm still working on refreshing my memory on things in the Bionicle fandom, looking through the reference books is quite the treasure trove of little nuggets.

In Bionicle World, a book written to seem like Helryx is writing it based on information collected by OoMN agents, I happened to notice something in the Metru Nui chapter.

Now, according to the wiki, it's not unheard of for the characters in Bionicle to use family terms such as brother and sister. But for a species that can't reproduce, I find it interesting that this term pops up--from Helryx nonetheless!--as though they know what parents or mothers or fathers are.

This makes me wonder if--since she's the first Toa that was made--she might have learned about these terms from the Great Beings? After all, even when there's fighting going on all around them while the planet is getting ready to shatter, I'd find it hard to imagine that she hadn't noticed any Agori or Glatorian children running around or hiding (protective Toa instincts activating and the Great Beings having to stop her from rushing off to save them? 😂). Perhaps even one of the Great Beings we've heard nothing about had a kid of their own and had to do what they could to keep them safe from the fight by bringing them along!

I certainly have memories of when I'd go to work with my parents, so it's not hard to imagine this happening. But if Helryx understands this concept and the family terms are in their programming...would everyone else in the Matoran Universe have any comparison to understand what paternal means, or would they attribute it similarly to how Turaga (specifically the Mata Nui Turaga since we know them best) would treat and protect their villagers?

Would Toa develop a similar role/pattern of behavior as their Turaga, and it's like the Matoran have two sets of parental figures? Or would it be a clash of "Toa, can I do this?" "Ask the Turaga." "Turaga, can I-" "No." ?

And would Makuta refer to themselves as the mother/father of the krataa they create from their bodies, or would they refer to themselves as their creator? Considering that Teridax literally calls his krataa/rahkshi his "sons", it feels like a term he'd just throw around even though he literally commanded a horde of them to die to Sentrakh in Time Trap. >.>

I dunno, it's late, and my brain is getting tired 😂 Would love to hear a second opinion or two, though!

[thereadingaddic7]

It's a bit of a funny and sad mix, how much of a Lohrak around Dume's neck the Vahki are. Certainly Dume is meant to be flawed as a Turaga, a somewhat suspicious character and cranky old man who think Matoran these days need to learn to respect their elders, but ultimately he's a good guy who'd give his life for the cause while spitting in the face of whatever killed him (see him telling Vezok, Avak and Reidak to go do something anatomically improbable when they try to extort him with a Kanohi Dragon). And given how important Metru Nui is, and how dangerous the outside world was, yeah Metru Nui does need some sort of standing army/police force to ensure that shit like the Barraki rebellion or the Matoran Civil War doesn't threaten to kill Mata Nui and doom the MU to drift endlessly through space, but holy shit the Vahki are so insanely bad at it, it's hard to think he'd sign off on it.

As an army they're pretty okay, they're very mobile with two modes of walking and one flight mode, their equipment is also extremely good offensively (mind control, seeing through your targets eyes, you hurt yourself in your confusion, etc), as well as a Kanoka disc launcher for more direct combat, and they're smart enough to think tactically, all without risking any Matoran/Toa/Turaga in combat (and that's without getting into the elite versions). But for Police work... well, they're okay for a Police State where you don't have to give a shit about what your citizenry thinks, their borderline psychotic nature means they're very effective at terrorizing a population into compliance even before bringing in the Brain Hacking they can do, and they are supposed to be the Police for Makuta!Dume's Police State...

They just also happened to be the Police for Regular!Dume's (Police(?)) State, which is a really bad look for someone who's supposed to be Not Actually A Villain. Based on what we see of them, the Kralhi that preceded the Vahki were probably much better at police duties (given that after being driven out of the city by Matoran who tried to "shut them down" they were totally willing to aid and protect Mavrah without issue they clearly don't share the Vahki's abusive nature) without having to take a number of Matoran away from work to do the police work instead (and thus potentially imperil Mata Nui and the MU as a whole by having them not do the necessary work in his brain). If the issue with them was that they left Matoran too weak to do their job after being policed, then maybe all the Kralhi needed was an equipment overhaul rather than being completely scrapped?

I don't know, Dume is meant to be Flawed but Good, but historically he's just made such a baffling decision with the Metru Nui's police forces, spurred on largely I think by Out-Of-Universe needs than because it made sense in-universe, he kind of ended up accidentally being the BIONICLE equivalent of Sentinel Prime, but because it mostly happened off screen it's easy enough for the story to sweep that under the rug. A lore hungry fandom on the other hand is not so easy to shake and I'm left trying to come up with a reason why he'd agree to the Vahki beyond the incredibly unsatisfying "he doesn't really care about the Matoran" or "he didn't think it through" and variants thereof answers.

[dannyfen]

Some more dbza/bionicle incorrect quotes, this time, superkamiguru

[randomwriteronline]

many thoughts about mata nui meeting the surviving toa teams (including the mata discovering that their relationship is less "king and his loyal knights" and more "very proper very sheltered very excited princess and her favorite jousters who are very baffled by her joy and wondering if this is just The Standard Way To Feel In Front Of Your Praising Boss or if theyre developing a crush", the haga being too distracted by Holy Shit The Great Spirit to focus on anything hes saying, and the mahri briefly mistaking him for Matoro on vibes alone and interrupting his genuine apology for what they went through for him to give him a hug) but most importantly imagine youre The World's Least Known And Runner-Up For Most Dysfunctional Toa Team, feeling like you only barely achieved what you were supposed to do through continuous strokes of luck, and then God shows up and is your biggest fan ever. you try to explain in detail how you fumbled your way to tentative success and it just makes God even prouder. thats what the metru are going through

[chaoskingcornerstone]

Post Metru Nui trans matoran

The matoran spheres deleted all previous memories of the matoran. Does that mean that trans matoran would forget that they're trans and for a while think they're cis? How would the turaga deal with that? I imagine they would probably at first try to just tell them they're trans but it might not completely work out 100%, I think it would be better if you discovered that yourself instead of the village elder saying "I looked into the fire and it said you should update your pronouns to she her." But the turaga would still try to subtly nudge the matoran into the direction that would lead them to discovering their true gender the fastest.

The real question is, what did it look like when the turaga first interacted with these matoran post sphere?

Matoran 1: "Turaga Vakama, I have a question, why is the Makuta so evil?" Matoran 2: "Mata Nui (matoran 1), he just is, that's a stupid question!" Vakama: "No no, she did not ask a stupid question at all-" Matoran 1: "Wait, why did you say she? I'm not a ga-matoran" Vakama (internally): "Oh fuck, she doesn't know o_o"