#Tudor Times

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The House of Grey

The House of Grey & Melita Thomas

The Grey family was one of medieval England’s most important dynasties, serving the kings of England as sheriffs, barons and military leaders. Like many families, they were split by the Wars of the Roses, one man betraying Henry VI at the Battle of Northampton, whilst his cousin, Sir John Grey, died for Lancaster at the second battle of St Albans, leaving a widow, Elizabeth née Woodville, and two…

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On this day the 27th of June 1505 Henry, Duke of York repudiated his betrothal to Catalina of Aragon, which had taken place two years before. The significance of the date, is that it was the eve of his fourteenth birthday. In the 16th century, fourteen was the age of marital consent for a male, at which time they could decline to honour any arrangements entered into before their maturity. We can suppose that Henry was acting on instruction from his father, Henry VII. Henry VII, Henry's father, although he had vigorously promoted the match initially, was no longer so keen. The death of Catalina’s mother, Isabella of Castile, had led to the break-up of Spain back into the constituent parts of Castile and Aragon. As the Queen of Castile was married, with several children, the alliance would now only be with Aragon, a less important country. Instead, Henry VII was putting out feelers for a match between young Henry and the Queen of Castile’s daughter, Eleanor of Austria. Upon Henry VII death on the 21st of April 1509 Henry Tudor, Duke of York became King Henry VIII. He could choose whoever he wanted to continue the dynasty his father had begun 24 years earlier. His eyes was on Catalina of Aragon. He married Catalina on the 11th of June 1509 in Westminster Abbey and they were both coranation on the 24th of June 1509

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En este Día de Juego ~ 4-17 de noviembre

El Obispo Gardiner se prepara para asestar otro golpe a la herejía dirigiéndose a la corte para demostrar la culpabilidad del Arzobispo de Canterbury, mas en cuanto pone sus ojos en Thomas Cranmer se da cuenta de que puede olvidarse de sus planes, pues en los dedos de quien iba a ser su nueva víctima se encuentra un anillo del Rey, prueba del apoyo que tiene el hombre que se encuentra ante él. El anillo del Rey Los Barones de Chiche han tenido un nuevo hijo, Robert, cuyo nacimiento ha servido para reunir a parte de la familia De Vere. Es por ello que ahora Sir Thomas regresa a la corte en compañía de su cuñada, Frances Brandon. Ambos dedican parte del viaje a hablar de la situación en que ambos se encuentran, pues las atenciones han estado centradas estos días en el recién nacido. De regreso Por su parte, el Duque de Bavaria disfruta de una excursión en compañía del Barón Chandos de Sudeley a una de las residencias que el Rey obsequió a este último por su boda. Una jornada de competición y caza que termina con una hoguera en el bosque amenizada por una conversación agradable. Exploring other lands

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Anne Boleyn deserved better

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Honestly Elizabeth of York was probably the type of person that wore a killer-outfit (she was the queen so yeah) and was the first to compliment someone’s clothing. 

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Black Settlers in Tudor Times

The Tudor period was significant for Black settlement in England (although Black settlement began before this). In 1501, for example, we know that Catherine of Aragon landed at Plymouth with a multinational and multicultural entourage of Moors, Muslims and Jews - descendants of those who had settled in Spain from the 8th century. Besides 'Black Moors' from Spain and North Africa, in Tudor times Black people began to arrive as a result of the slave trade - as interpreters, sailors and servants, and also, it appears, as slaves.

-The National Archives, Exhibitions, Black presence 

References and Further Reading

Surtees Society, Register of the Freemen of the City of York from the City Records, vol. I, no. 96 (1897) and vol. II, no. 102 (1900)

Walvin, J., Black and White: The Negro and English Society, 1555-1945, London, 1973

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I've been trying to Google this and can never find a real answer, so I'm hoping a good history buff will find this and respond:

I've seen in a lot of historical fiction set in the English court, the king at the time getting super pissed when he finds out someone got married without his permission. So my questions are this:

Is that a real thing that happened? I know some people, like Jacquetta of Luxembourg, got thrown out of court for marrying beneath them, or because they were closely related to the king and remarried without permission (like Mary Tudor, younger sister of Henry 8), but did just random ladies and lords and dukes and such have to ask the king before they were allowed to marry anyone?

If that is a real thing that happened, how did that work? Did you have to write to the king, or request an audience, and just be like "Your Grace, I would like to marry Lady Catherine of Colchester, do I have your permission?" And if he said yes, then that was it? You would've had to ask her family as well, right? Did you ask the king before or after asking her family's permission?

What about asking the queen? I think I read somewhere something about ladies-in-waiting employed by the queen would need to basically clear it with her before getting married, and that would make sense to me, but again, is that actually a thing that happened?

Was there a cut-off for who had to ask permission? Like if you weren't any sort of nobility or gentry or anything, like if you were just a scullery maid or a countryside farmer, you didn't have to go out of your way to ask the king for permission to marry, right?

I do also recall hearing some characters talking about asking the pope for permission. Now I know in certain situations, you'd need to apply for a dispensation from the pope (like if you were marrying your first cousin, or your brother's widow), and certainly on the Borgia tv shows it made sense to ask permission from the pope since the main characters were children of the pope. But what about everyone else? You didn't seriously have to ask for your parents' approval, ask for the bride's hand, clear it with the king, AND ask the pope for permission? Was I just seriously misunderstanding these things? I'll admit I don't pay the best attention to tv shows, and of course even historical dramas aren't the best place to get your information from, so I'd understand if I was just misremembering/misunderstanding.

And how did it work if you were married and both you and you were spouse were at the court of the king? Did you have your own room where you and your spouse slept? Did the husband just have his own room while the wife slept in the queen's quarters and she'd just go to the husband's house sometimes for sex and whatever?

How did arranged marriages... happen? I get some of the steps - someone is like "Hey it would be a really good match if we paired up Jane and Thomas," so then... someone goes to Thomas's household and they work out an agreement of some kind? And someone has to ask the king for permission at some point??

If you were a woman at court, and you were pregnant, could you stay at court? Most of what I've read, the ladies usually leave for one of their estates rather than staying at court. But would you be allowed to stay at court through your pregnancy and confinement, if you weren't the queen? I mean it would make more sense to leave for your quieter, more private home, but I'm just wondering.

I don't know, I just have a lot of questions and Google is turning up no help. I'm not writing an actual historical novel so I don't want to trouble myself by reading through 50 nonfiction books for help, but I still want to know, for my own knowledge and because a thing I AM writing is vaguely based off various English monarchs and nobilities and whatever.

This is the stuff I would rather have been learning about in high school histories classes. Instead I learned what the main export of Spain was in the 16th century - which I can't even remember what it was anymore. Where do tomatoes come from? I learned that too but don't remember it. Probably because it's fucking useless information.

Well anyway, if you've got ANY knowledge, or you know of a website somewhere, or whatever, reblog and/or ask/submit something? Thank you kindly!

By the way I know of the Anne Boleyn Files website, which has great information but I haven't found anything that quite answers my questions (understandably, most of the info is about Anne Boleyn, Henry, and various historical events, I'm looking for information that's specifically not about any queens)

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if anyone could play anne boleyn who would you choose?

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En este Día de Juego ~ 21 de cotubre - 3 de noviembre

Jane Dudley se encuentra descansando momentáneamente de sus tareas como dama de la Reina leyendo la Biblia, sin pretenderlo es interrumpida por Mary Anne Seymour, aunque es algo que ninguna de las dos lamenta una vez que comienzan a hablar y notan que tienen algunos intereses en común, hablan entre otras cosas de las leyes que permiten a las damas nobles leer las Escrituras siempre que sea en privado y también de Anne Askew, a quien una de las dos conoce en persona. Una nueva corte Mientras Emma Fynes se encuentra dando un paseo por las calles, con el permiso de su hermana para darlo a solas, se encuentra con una situación desagradable al contemplar cómo han atrapado a dos ladrones que no son más que un par de niños de edades cercanas a la suya. Es en esta situación donde se encuentra con Emile Bell, que tiene una visión algo oscura de lo que puede ocurrir a esos niños, que decide no compartir totalmente con la joven, y sólo pueden contemplar la escena con impotencia. Laberínticos callejones

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Helena Bonham Carter and Cary Elwes in Lady Jane 1986. This movie :'( .

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mysteriousphotographs

One of my favourite portraits.

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It had the power to turn new wine sour, make fruit fall from trees, kill bee hives, give dogs rabies and make crops turn barren.

Medieval beliefs of the horrible power of menstrual blood. http://authorherstorianparent.blogspot.com/2012/12/to-bring-on-flowers-medieval-women.html

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En este Día de Juego ~ 7-20 de octubre

La Condesa Viuda de Arundel decide que ha llegado el momento de hablar seriamente con su hijo acerca del futuro. Como era de esperar, aún habiendo pasado un año desde que muriera su esposa, Henry Fitzalan no está aún de acuerdo con la idea de hablar de una segunda esposa, pero no significa que su madre vaya a olvidarse del tema fácilmente, aunque también tiene prioridad el pensar en el futuro de sus nietos y en los planes que tienen para ellos. Sobre el futuro Por su parte, Frances Brandon née de Vere tiene la idea de pasar la tarde en compañía de su cuñada, dando la casualidad de encontrarse en su lugar con su hermano, que tiene ciertas ideas en mente para las tierras de cultivo que termina compartiendo con ella con la esperanza de tener su opinión. Pero la tarde no termina siendo tan agradable como prometía pues Aubrey termina confesando algo que Frances no esperaba escuchar. De cultivos y amargas confesiones

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En este Día de Juego ~ 23 de septiembre - 6 de octubre

La falúa del Rey llega a Lamberth para invitar al Arzobispo Cranmer a un paseo por el Támesis. Pero tras esta apariencia de inocente oferta se esconde el deseo del soberano de informarle de las acusaciones de herejía que sobre él se están vertiendo. El favor real En Hampton Court, Ulbretch de Henneberg, decide explorar el palacio y tratar de conocer un poco mejor las costumbres inglesas. Era de esperar que terminara perdido en los pasillos, pero no que en un tropiezo cayera sobre Will Sommers, que al reconocer su procedencia decide que lo mejor será conocer al extranjero y tal vez trabar amistad con él acompañados de un buen vino a la espera del Duque de Bavaria. Accidentados encuentros Triste situación es la que se produce en el Castillo de Belvoir, pues la familia Manners se prepara para despedir a uno de sus miembros más queridos, el Conde de Rutland, arropados por los Condes de Westmoreland, amigos íntimos de la familia. Ahora, su heredero, Henry Manners será quien deba sustituirle en sus ocupaciones. La tristeza que invade nuestros corazones En Escocia, Jean Stewart busca la compañía de John Erskine para tratar de recuperar algo de cómo eran las cosas antes de Solway Moss, así que salen a dar un paseo por las cercanias y comparten una conversación que no se aleja tanto de las preocupaciones que ocupan el pensamiento de todos los cercanos a María de Guisa. Que todo sea como antes

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En este Día de Juego ~ 9-22 de septiembre

Tiene lugar en Hampton Court la boda de Enrique VIII y Kathryn Parr. No son pocos los cortesanos y nobles del reino que se reunen para asistir al enlace del Rey y su sexta esposa, incluso tiene lugar la llegada por sorpresa de unos inesperados invitados durante el banquete. Boda de Enrique VIII y Kathryn Parr (Ceremonia) Banquete de bodas de Enrique VIII y Kathryn Parr Antes de la ceremonia, Richard Butler se encuentra llegando a palacio mucho antes de que todo de comienzo, lo cuál provoca que se quede dormido en una de las salas y, al despertar, se encuentre envuelto en una situación de lo más curiosa junto a la joven doncella de los Gilman, Grietje. No es tan pronto para coincidir Lejos de la corte, en el Castillo de Hedingham todo parece transcurrir con plena normalidad. Una normalidad llena de obligaciones de las que la joven Anne de Vere decide descansar al menos por un día, disfrazándose y saliendo a los campos, con el ��nico sobresalto de indicar una dirección a un caballero, al que no reconoce como Andrew Dudley. Not quite ladylike