#Toffee doesnt have to be redeemed to be an interesting character and i think canonically he wouldnt be redeemed but that

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It's a shame Toffee never was a focus for the show the only story I've read that focuses on Toffee would be SVTFOE the thief and it's only in the second half. I wish Toffee was focused more on your drawings of him are amazing!

Hello anon, you're super welcomed here and thank you s m, thats so sweet of you and im glad my drawings are nice

Yeah.. I feel the same way. I suppose mostly because Im one of those people who weren't into the romance part of the show, so we kinda got the short end of the stick. Tbh I noticed it is very hard to make analysis of the show or show's characters because they,, feel inconsistent, or there are too many unsaid things there

In all honesty, I admire the creators' ideas and imagination, the ideas themselves, (The kingdom, the magic book of spells, the spells, the queens, the world, dimensions, creatures in charge of dimensions, Toffee as a whole) but the execution of said ideas left so many questions and led to some sense of dissatisfaction, at least to me

I get the show was trying to do the "we will leave for the fans to speculate on that part" thing, but nnng, that happened in major plot driven parts and I just wanted to learn more canon revelations rather than speculate. The show was focusing so much on the racism theme just to kinda brush off the idea at the end and kill the magical creatures and even left the deaths of monsters unresolved or never mentioned it, it gave a rather bitter aftertaste.. I feel like it would be better if the show focused only on one thing, i.e. teenage romance only in the show, and other aspects like monster opression, queens, in other sources or even in a Separate show with different mc maybe(?)

The fact that I didnt connect to the main character didnt help me either..For example, in season 1 I liked Star probably because in season 1 she was faced with her mistakes and wrongdoings and she learnt from them, but in next seasons she became always right and never wrong, even when she clearly did wrong things and mistreated others the show didnt even hint on how she was wrong, and I..didnt really like that. Even the main antagonist of the whole 2 seasons didnt get any information revealed about him, I understand the creator wanted him to serve as a bad guy who is mysterious but he serves as a ‘preparation’ for the next arc, but Toffee was around in the show and was the center of the show for so long the audience was bound to get attached to him

And even Toffee himself, was hinted to not be perfect, he was revealed to have fatal flaws (i.e. he’s extremely stubborn and prideful and he is so ready to spite mewmans he literally deludes himself into thinking HE is always right and he is the only one who knows everything, even if that leads to his fall. But the show didnt focus on that, it only made vague hints. I wish that part of him was explored further). I feel like because of that he felt more relatable to me than the main characters.. Its like when the show tries to make the mc likable and makes them perfect, whereas making the villain flawed but that leads to the audience to connect to the villain more. In a way Toffee feels more “human” to me, if that makes sense, which is ironic because he’s a monster. I also feel it is a shame Toffee wasnt focused on at all, because I have a strong feeling that he would make a lot of viewers feel seen and he would be relatable to some watchers if his character was expanded further, he’d be one of favorites in the show. But him being a ‘schrodinger’s cat’ of the show made him either a ‘sexy man’ or ‘disusting guy with nothing to sympathise with’ in the eyes of the audience. and that saddens me because I realize he HAS personality and relatable traits in canon, (he is literally a goldmine of great character potential and topics that can be discussed (generational trauma, pride, impostor syndrome, stubborness, pettiness, resentment, character growth from a teenager bully boy to a general to a historian)) he was just not focused on enough to let the viewers know of them.

 I cant bring myself to hate the show because I know  there are people who worked really hard on it, and put a lot of effort into it, so I cant hate it because of that. But no matter how much i try to like it , I return to that feel of confusion concerning plot and character arcs.. Its like my mind still makes me think the show is somehow still going on, even though it is clearly over, its just hard to accept it was concluded because of how many things were left uncovered