#Tivik

[colleybri]

Which Rogue One characters should make an appearance in Andor Season 2 ?

^ Orson Krennic. Would be so great if we got a scene with him and… Partagaz? Dedra?!

Casting spoilers and speculation below…

Apart from Cassian, Mon, Melshi and Saw, we now know that K2SO is making his chronological debut, and we’re getting more Krennic. General Draven - Cassian’s commanding officer - can also be glimpsed in the D23 leaked trailer. Mads Mikkelsen is appearing at Star Wars Celebration 2025, fuelling speculation that Galen Erso might be in Season 2.

^ The wonderful Mads Mikkelsen as Galen Erso. I remember whimpering with joy when I first saw he was in this film.

My own point of view? I love Rogue One but I prefer Andor if forced to choose (though I’m excited by Diego Luna’s repeated assertions that after season 2, it will be like watching a completely different film ) and for that reason I don’t want any less screen time for my season 1 favourites. Especially those who I think still have a lot of growth/story to come: Syril, Mon, Bix and Vel. But seeing as the final arc happens merely days before Rogue One begins - and the final scene will literally be Cassian departing for the Ring of Kafrene to meet Tivik the informant - it makes sense for Tony Gilroy to enhance the links to the film.

There are some characters who I would like to see and some who it would make sense to be there. Bail Organa perhaps - he’s clearly known to Mon. Mon even knows about his links to Obi-Wan (“your friend - the Jedi”). He would be a good character to have at least in the background, as an explanation for an increasing awareness of the Force (even in an unlikely character such as Cassian) . Maybe. Not essential though, and I wouldn’t be fussed either way.

The characters who make most sense to me and who I would really like to see : Tivik and - IF we’re getting Galen - Bodhi Rook. Tivik because Cassian clearly knows him and has met him before. An appearance by him – especially if we see the sister that Cassian and Jyn were supposed to be meeting with on Jedha - could add a lot of weight to the scene where… Cassian is forced to off him. You know, deliberately depriving a sister of her brother and all that. What with his own history. And there goes another little sliver of his soul…(This is one of the scenes that Tony Gilroy added in the reshoots in order to enhance the sacrifice theme.)

^ Alas, poor Tivik. With that great big red flag of a wounded arm . Among the all-time greats of “Characters who were unceremoniously shot dead by Cassian Andor”.

I love the film, but the opening 20 minutes or so is pretty confusing and fast moving and we’re given no explanation about why Galen trusted Bodhi enough to give him the hologram message for Saw. This is my biggest personal wish. I would really love to see a scene between Galen and Bodhi. To find out a bit more about this relationship and how it was built up. Bodhi obviously has a great deal of affection and respect for Galen. It doesn’t need to be much or long, but I think it would really enhance the film.

Bodhi Rook - arguably Rogue One’s least developed main character. Could Andor’s final arc do something about that?

Jyn Erso? With apologies to my Rebelcaptain-loving friends, I can’t realistically imagine a scene where Cassian is staring at her hologram image, simply because that wouldn’t happen before the Rogue One Tivik scene - the Alliance only then start looking for her as a possible way to track down Galen and gain safe access to Saw. But there is a hope that she might pop up at least as a mention in any Galen and Bodhi scene, or perhaps via Saw - who looked after her all those years. Maybe even Luthen knows about her in some way from that time.

^ Jyn Erso - might we get a mention or even a glimpse?

For the same reason, I don’t think we’ll see anything of Baze or Chirrut - it makes sense for their first appearance to be in the film.

One more wishlist request from me. Bor Gullet. The alien who works for Saw as a mind-reader. I would really like a little backstory there. No, really. I’m fascinated. (Might Bor even be retconned as a surviving Dizonite?!)

^ Bor Gullet will know your thoughts! The unfortunate side-effect is that one tends to lose one’s mind.. (though not for very long, apparently!)

Over to you. Re-blog or comment with your wish list.

I have a feeling we’re going to love you all over again, K2!

[rogueonebrackets]

Rogue One Costume Contest - Round One

Who shows up to the Halloween party in a better costume?

[atomiccollectionanchorme]

Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016) directed by Gareth Edwards

Wots all this then?

[faceofpoe]

On Wilmon (and Luthen and Cassian)

I'm a little scared to muse "what are we doing with Wilmon?" but fuck it, what are we doing with Wilmon?

His journey into s2 was always most intriguing to me of the ones on that ship in Rix Road because of the echoes of Cassian's -

-sparing a moment to be emotional about how he was *almost* arrested but Brasso, Brasso got him, Brasso saved him and -

So we've got teenage boy lashing out at his father's death and attacking a garrison - but Wilmon's been spared the horrors (I mean, or more likely execution, but) of what came next for Cassian. And we don't know anything about Sipo/Mimban really except that Mimban was enough to put it into Cassian's head that fighting is useless, that 'rebellion' is a joke.

Wilmon gets a chance to breathe and recover on Mina-Rau but it was always a matter of time, of course it was, and then he's in, properly in, sometime between arcs.

And we meet him with Saw. Luthen sent him to Saw. Not going to dig into the 'wow really thought he'd still be with Saw's outfit in arc 3' until arc 4 maybe sheds some light or not on his Saw time/connections (read: I am wondering if Wilmon will be instrumental in getting Tivik's message to Cassian? or if the message was meant for Wilmon? Or Luthen more generally? Idk I can't remember if it's clear that Tivik and Cassian actually know one another or not tbh). Saw's a scary dude, Saw shoots his own guy right in front of him, Saw does his weird-ass initiation rite or *something* with the damn rhydo.

Anyway Wilmon is back with Luthen by arc 3 and he's...

Everything Luthen wanted from Cassian?

(Luthen got Wilmon in the messy break up and this is so fantastically complicated I want to fic about it forever)

Luthen is vaguely "making things happen" and whatever those things Cassian is skeptical and Wilmon is committed.

"You act like Luthen's the enemy" / "Wouldn't that be easier" will be the subject of many hours musing these three in the week/weeks ahead I expect, anyway.

Wilmon has taken over the Ghorman... advising? role while Vel has broken up with Luthen and Cassian is... hiding. Sort of hiding. He's injured - he doesn't like that Wilmon has shared this with Luthen. Luthen wants to put him back to work and has apparently pulled Wilmon away from Ghorman to try and coax Cassian back into the circle.

(insert hilarity over 'hey here's this person it'd be very easy to kill her but we need this one (1) specific guy to pull that trigger' no one on site could possibly make it happen)

(this however does lend implication to things that Cassian perhaps got very good at under Luthen's employ)

(I have so many Thoughts about the breakdown between them in arc 2 and after the show is done I expect I will be waxing poetic about the whole playing with the negative space concept but anyway)

Wilmon and Cassian have *the most heart-wrenching scene* parting ways on Ghorman and -

Wilmon goes back, gets it done, makes it out, makes it home. Hurt, but home. And that's kind of where we leave it. He needs a doctor and Cassian takes him back to Yavin.

So where do we go from here?

We never get to see Luthen & Wilmon on screen together and this haunts me lol BUT. I daresay we use Wilmon to sort of show that Luthen has... learned something? From arc 2? We don't hear Kleya ask, and maybe she did, but that's Luthen's question upon meeting Cassian: "Wilmon?" and he looks a bit perturbed by Cassian's reply and then Kleya pops in and "hey guys there's an emergency let's focus" changes the topic.

[insert Senate drama]

Upon arriving at the safehouse and chugging some water, Cassian nods at the back and asks Kleya "Is he back there?" and Kleya nods and this felt like a really weird script crack where we just didn't see Cassian get news about Wilmon making it home but the more I turn this over I'm wondering if he meant "Is *Luthen* back there?" and if we're meant to infer Luthen's hand... somehow... in helping get them to safety.

[this might be reading way too much into my favorite problematic blorbo and I have zero concept of the passage of time between the Senate flight and the safehouse arrival but]

Anyway they have the whole 'they wanna rewrite the story' (lol) thing and Cassian's response is to challenge, "what does *Luthen* want?"

"He wants Wilmon with a doctor."

And we might read that a few ways. Mon has moved beyond Luthen's concern and how she goes from here isn't his problem.

Wilmon just really needs a doctor and Wilmon is valuable.

Wilmon is Cassian's people and he's already pushed Cassian away by being dismissive about the importance of those connections.

Or Luthen is... letting Wilmon go?

Genuinely I have no idea beyond that the ep twice draws attention to Luthen's concern for Wilmon's whereabouts/wellbeing amidst the "immediate problem." And he's talking about burning all his bridges and Cassian is very aware that the clock is ticking before Luthen is discovered.

And Wilmon has maybe sort of taken Cassian's place in some kinda way but it's Cassian who Luthen wants to extract Mon "I wasn't sure you'd come", Cassian as the guy "I know I can trust" Cassian who Luthen has his vague *destiny vibes* about.

If Rix Road was Wilmon's attacking the garrison with a stick (a really impressive stick), then Ghorman was Wilmon's Rix Road and he did the job, he went back for his person and saved who he could and made it away.

Anyway I figure arc 4 has three options:

first - zero/minimal Wilmon. He speed-ran Cassian's story from age 13-end of season 1 but without the prison trauma, he's now vaguely in the background of the Alliance somewhere probably, not part of the arc 4 story.

second - Wilmon recovers and goes back to Luthen 'til the bitter end, perhaps maintains some Saw ties in this capacity.

third - Wilmon tied in amongst the Yavin side but drawn into whatever endgame dramatics will undoubtedly bring Cassian back into Luthen and Kleya's orbit one last time.

I don't know I want any of these answers more or less than the others. I think I could be satisfied with option the first, if what we had is what we're going to get.

But I also still wonder if this final arc isn't going to sucker punch me with Wilmon in some way I haven't anticipated.

Anyway. Wilmon. Muhannad Bhaier. Damn.

[hrygth1138]

Can't stop thinking about the scene in S2 E1 of Andor when he is calming Niya down after she betrayed her home, her presumably work family, and, honestly, a nice job. 1) it shows that even working for bad regimes is not all just horror but you have a life, hobbies, and friends 2) I got chills the way Cassian was able to calm her down using a very clearly rehearsed script he has probably used many times before in the last year. He is figuring out how best to calm people down who will most likely be tried and killed if they get caught (and most probably will because let's be honest they are a bunch of civilians)

BUT

This scene has such an interesting mirror to the scene in Rogue One where Cassian is faced with another very scared human who has left everything behind. Tivik is quite literally freaking out and Cassian does his best to calm him down (with now a very memorized and unfeeling speech about how what he is doing is good) but quickly realizes it's a lost cause because they are trapped and he can't climb with his injured arm. At that moment I bet all the other little scared faces flash in front of his eyes and he has to kill another scared individual so he doesn't fall into enemy hands and face a worse fate.

I wonder at what point he had to do this for the first time and if it came to that with Niya, at this spot in his character development, what he would have done or gotten caught with her.

[andorerso]

I put together my own personal Andor S2 wish-list all the way back when S1 ended, and I'm posting it now to see how many comes true (struck out the ones that we already know will be happening)

Jedha mention

Cassian going undercover

more specifically Cassian going undercover as Joreth Sward (or Willix or Aach)

Jyn mention / holopic of Jyn (specifically Cassian putting together her file)

the Yavin IV base

this is a broad one but: Cassian with PTSD, trauma, dissociation, depression

lullaby pill moment/mention

Cassian as a recruiter

Cassian interacting more with Vel and/or Cinta (ideally both but I'm especially interested in his dynamic with Vel)

Cassian kills someone with his bare hands

Velcinta on-screen kiss

K2 sass king

Cassian cooking moment

Galen and/or Krennic appearance/mention

perhaps a Bodhi cameo as well

the reappearance of Luthen's sky kyber (maybe ending up with Cassian)

Project Stardust mention (with those exact words!! need the word Stardust in there)

more Saw scenes

more wicked cool Cassian jackets

Cassian and Mon interactions

sniper Cassian

fast-draw Cassian gunning down someone again

Cassian sent on assassination missions

the Jenoport fiasco with Kay

Tivik appearance (how does he become Cassian's informant?)

DAVITS! DRAVEN! (and him mentoring Cassian)

Mon and Draven interactions

and finally... the most important one of them all: FULCRUM CASSIAN

[classicanalyzer]

Andor Season 2 Second Trailer

I love how the poster incorporates more Rogue One characters and locations.

Yet again, Andor Season 2 continues to have me hyped. I like the use of the Imperial alarm sounds since it reminds me of how the Rogue One teaser trailer used an Imperial alarm sound to build up tension.

“Welcome to the Rebellion” the delusional part of me hopes he’s telling that to Syril tho he could be talking to someone else. Syril will either undergo a redemption arc, remain a delusional pro-Imperial to the end, or will die as an Imperial but realizing he served the wrong cause.

Seeing Ferrix under Imperial occupation and being torn down is heartbreaking.

I really hope the jungle world is Kenari.

I think Kleya might help Andor find Tivik based on how she mentions the Empire is working on a weapon.

I cannot wait to see Mon’s speech and perhaps maybe Saw will get a speech of his own.

One thing is clear: All roads lead to Scarif.

[the-border-outpost]

Thane is a soldier, not a hunter! This particular Buffalo Beetle has escaped with its life, Thane a bit bruised and embarrassed by his failure. It looks like another night of a small bit of their stew. The whole pack is hungry, but the more frustrated they get, the more clumsy they get in hunting. They have tivik back at the outpost, but tivik are small, and the eggs they produce are definitely helpful for protein. Eating the tivik would mean no more eggs. There's enough for each of the Warbred to have a couple eggs and a little of their stew.

[rapidashrider]

I don’t think we talk about this enough tbh, about the sacrifices Kay also makes against his own kind for the cause.

“You know what you have to do,” says Cassian.

“You know” tells us Kay made a joke instead of acknowledging what he already knows is the solution; “have to” tells us it’s not something he’s choose. He’s trying to avoid it - not really, not actually, but there’s a dark humour to making a joke when both he and Cassian know the real solution.

There’s a clearly intentional (in the filmmaking) brutality to the whirring, the flickering lights, the holding the other droid by the neck. Whatever it takes. Get the information even if it means murder.

This is Kay’s Tivik moment and we don’t talk about it enough.

[rogueonebrackets]

Rogue One Brawling Tournament - Round One

No weapons allowed! Who'd win in a fight?

[erospendragon]

HOUSE OF PENDRAGON

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TELERKÉS TEV PRASDÉOS

LEARES

DAS RAESES TE DIRISE

TER TUNDERER

SES KÓI FETISITERS VERK

MAGYAR LENS FERTOA

COSMI VELTE

POTESTÁ ERNS ENARÉTIA

LETS SÍLVERE TEMPI CARMINA

KALEATES TORS ERTENIENES

DE RORKE VEST TERVIMENTEC

TEMERATA SER TEVETS

SIRKITS ET LERK SKAVARTÍES

SURTÍAS TORKET SIARIK TIRÉS

VENDRANI TERVET AKT

CLAMA PER VARTORE

DE VISTAR TOK DIOMEDES

DARSDA INFARSTENE DECONISCUTA

SEDEMI QUILLI TERK SOTIANI

PERKASI NERS VORS TIVIK

TER LITARELENTE

SENZA FINATURA DIVIARI

SIMI NESTUNA NIVIKI SIRIEMI

ERST MET VEC L'INSATA

DER TAK FIENZA LIT URTIV

CHIAMARTE SOLTEMA SERITERKES

CAETARKE LEK AVET RESTANGÉNERE

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Be quiet.

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Silence.

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REMEMBER

WHAT WE HAVE

LIVED

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DEUSES

Permaneçam junto a mim.

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[ruby-red-inky-blue]

I've been thinking about that again lately - especially the point about Cassian being an unconventional male lead in the movie - and I think what annoys me so much about the Andor characterisation (besides how little there is of it sometimes) is that it reads like a character who was reconfigured for the male gaze in many ways.

Rogue One Cassian:

a guy who committed fully to a cause at a very young age, and was clearly destroying himself in the attempt to hang on to that idealism. Yes, that man killed people without flinching, and was clearly prepared to do it all over again, but he was also wracked with guilt over it

implied to be a good manipulator (Tivik, who is clearly very afraid, still agreed to meet him and give him a huge secret; he convinced Bodhi they'll make it off Scarif; holds good speeches; described as a great recruiter by his superiors in the additional publications)

but clearly winging it most of the time, and not often suave

no hint of being great with women (calling Jyn's commitment to the cause inadequate and privileged, trying to tell her what she is feeling, then returning and offering her an army of people willing to die for her is... inelegant as far as flirting goes tbh)

kept being one-upped by the female lead in physical fights

took orders readily, deferentially and silently, both from his CO and (gasp!) the female lead

there was no specific personal loss that had pushed him into caring, although he did tell Jyn she was "not the only one who lost everything", it was never specified if that made him pick up the fight or not

he was the organised stickler to Jyn's rebellious chaotic approach

he was largely a reactive character, shifted around by the plot and, most importantly, by following Jyn

failed his main assignment, not because anything out of his control went wrong, but because he couldn't bring himself to shoot Galen

his arc was relearning (or, possibly, learning for the first time) to assert his own judgement over his superiors, which is a storyline usually given to female characters

meanwhile, here is what Tony Gilroy saw in Cassian:

source: Vanity Fair

Couple things here.

"A perfect kind of spy" - yeah! But in a real-world sense, not a James Bond sense. Because James Bond is actually a really bad spy. Cool, but terrible. He leaves a trail of women he fucked whom he told secrets to and who can be used to manipulate or trace him, he tells everyone his government name for no reason, he is drunk, keeps killing people who could tell him stuff, and cannot stop drawing attention to himself. An actual good spy is unassuming and nonthreatening, and sure, charming and attractive doesn't hurt but not in a way that people will remember. A spy who is the hottest thing since sliced bread? Way too conspicuous. The Cassian we see in the movie defaults to make himself nonthreatening at every opportunity - making himself look goofy and clumsy ("oh no, my gloves!"), smiling, making himself smaller, letting himself get kidnapped with no earnest attempt to resist or retaliate.

He is not the perfect warrior. He is a good shot and appears to have an ungodly pain tolerance, but we never see him engage in violence in the way that "warrior" stereotypically implies. It is never implied he is adept at any strength-based combat and he will not get up close and personal. This man never beats up anyone, he is not reckless when outnumbered, and his main contribution to the final fight is drawing fire and covering the protagonist, and almost immediately getting hit.

"The perfect killer" who, again, had the perfect chance to execute a vital enemy target and didn't, simply because he emotionally could not do it. Great analysis, man, no notes!

I think the interpretation of "seductive" isn't wrong in regards to R1!Cassian, looking especially at his speeches in the latter half - except, of course, on Andor we end up with that being reflected both by Cassian being suddenly incredible at massive feats of manipulation (while being unable to lie to his mother or convince people to get off his back about the money he owes them, somehow), AND literally by Cassian being a flirt and womaniser. Which, again, really works against him being a good spy, and also goes against the characterisation of the movie. Sure, you could say he was weird around Jyn because he had a crush, or because he wasn't into her, but Cassian seemed so burned out most of the movie that I just can't picture him mustering the energy for any kind of hedonism.

The last bit of that quote is such an upsetting mischaracterisation of Cassian's final acts, and I really hope that's just because it was phrased weirdly. Because "How do you get to that place and then sacrifice yourself" implies that Cassian felt he was top of his game, and proud of it, and sacrifice was an active step he took in spite of that. Cassian visibly resented himself for his actions. He repeatedly put himself in harm's way with no hesitation and very little care for his life before the finale. Giving his life was not sacrificing something good for a win. Scarif was his redemption. This is very clearly stated in dialogue. Cassian viewed this victory as making things right with the world, and seemed mostly relieved to die on the beach. I don't understand how a writer could not get that.

But yeah, overall Cassian, while still a very tragic character (and still played by the man with the saddest eyes in the biz), has become way more of a male action hero type in Andor. The initial Han-Solo-esque blasé attitude and reluctance to fight, the mercenary mentality, the petty criminal background are all things typically associated with the Cool Tough Guy, traits which he emphatically did not have before. Also, I get that Cassian and his skillset would be a great asset to Luthen, but I feel like Cassian from Rogue One was emphatically not a guy who any recruiter ever treated like God's gift to the cause, and Luthen repeatedly makes the point that his own life and the invaluable imperial tech Cassian stole are worth the risk of recruiting... some thief who can lie okay? Luthen's early treatment of Cassian is oddly chosen-one coded, and I never felt like that was earned. But it makes Cassian look badass! Which was probably the main intention behind all that. And then the constant bitchiness about submitting to authority. I'm obviously not talking about the prison arc, I mean when he was receiving very necessary training on Aldhani or even when he has a go at Kleya for giving him bad intel before stealing the TIE in season 2. That is simply wildly out of character for the man we saw in Rogue One - but it is more palatable for the kind of male viewers who think masculinity is always asserting dominance. If your pov character can't be in command just yet, he can at least be bitching about the ones who are. And making him so slow to care for the broader cause makes it look like he's not ever really acting out of conviction so much as he seems to be avenging personal losses and harm to himself and people he personally knows. Which is also a much more traditional motivation for a male character.

We do still see Cassian flounder a lot, but in a way that makes him look much better than in Rogue One, because it's always established that he's a) new at this and b) even if he comes in prepped for a situation, it was always on a notably short deadline or with extra hurdles. He was brought into Aldhani three days before go time; they have to orchestrate the prison break with very limited amount of communication; he was ill-prepared for the theft of the TIE (and also apparently only there for a few hours? why not send him in for a few days, to watch other people fly the thing?); he had virtually no time to make any kind of plan before trying to extract his friends from the farm planet. R1!Cassian was much more reliant on prep and planning (the whole operation up until Jedha had clearly been planned for a long time), and was skilled at improvising when that plan - his plan - inevitably went sideways. In Andor, every fuck-up appears to be outside of his control, and he was mostly winging it anyway! Any success is therefore impressive and cool, and a dunk on all the other idiots who spent so long planning it.

The only truly dumb choice he makes is executing Skeen before he can prove to anyone that Skeen was going to betray them - and here we do see him be the cold killer that Gilroy seems to think he is! Because that was not ordered, did not further any cause but to satisfy his anger at being successfully lied to, and there was no shadow of self-defense in it. It's not necessarily a thing I can't see R1!Cassian doing, especially a younger version - but it does run counter to the portrayal we got, of a man who "did everything I did [...] for the Rebellion", who hated killing so much he eventually couldn't even do it when it did further the cause. And, crucially, Andor!Cassian never once seems to feel the slightest bit of guilt over the people he's killed so far - only people who got killed because of him or beside him, like Nemik or Kino, and even there guilt didn't seem to be the thing that lingers, he's mostly angry. Which is fair, both for the themes they're exploring and as a possible backstory for the character, but again, much more palatable to that certain male audience.

Lastly, this is even in the clothing! It pains me to do anything but rave about Andor's costuming because it is divine, but... they even dressed him kind of like a cowboy in his intro (see this post). R1!Cassian spent a large part of the movie in a floofy parka that his frame completely disappeared in, face haloed by soft fur, and was otherwise dressed pretty much in army fatigues (except for the Imperial uniform and the sexy black leather jacket in the intro, which might be where Gilroy pulled the inexplicable Bond vibes from??). Also, we get a shot of his ass but not of Jyn's, which is very funny but I don't know if I want to pretend this is a serious argument or not. Andor sees him in much more leather and suede in more muted colours, coarser materials, long, swooping open coats with a more classically adventure-hero type silhouette (when he gets to pick his own wardrobe, of course). And, of course, there's a shirtless scene, too.

so yeah, I know a lot of people will not vibe with this assessment because Cassian in Andor is still, unlike a lot of action leads written by men, not a creep or a misogynist. But they still retconned or reshaped a lot of the traits that made him so inadequate to a lot of male Star Wars fans in the movie, and as someone who thought that was very sexy of Cassian that's just such a bummer.

Nah I gotta say something.

After watching Rogue One all of the characters are amazing. I literally love them all. Some people saying Cassian was their favorite. I love him, he’s my blorbo.

And then Andor completely retconning his entire character, personality and background and everything we knew at all whatsoever, some people still say that this was why the SAME GUY was always the fave ???

I loved him because he was a refreshingly different male lead. Because he wasn’t some brooding loser but was intentional in being a leader within the rebellion no matter the costs. And then they made him out to be a reluctant cowboy?

I get liking both canons. I get still loving this new character and the old. I get trying to bridge the differences. But completely ignoring the fact that they changed his everything and acting like it was the same guy, it’s so sad seeing so many people never gave a shit at all in the first place when they claimed to. Maybe it’s just me being naive but that’s actually wild to me male characters can be completely contradicted and still be valued over their female counterparts. I actually hate y’all.

[andorerso]

I'll be real, I don't think it makes much sense for Cassian to only start looking into Jyn after the meeting with Tivik. I mean yes, the timeline of Rogue One in general isn't 100% clear, but Cassian has already known about Galen when Tivik mentioned his name to him, which leads me to believe they already had some kind of intel about Project Stardust and that Galen was involved in it. which in turn makes me think they were likely already looking at Jyn as a possible mark. not to mention that Bodhi was already on Jedha when the meeting with Tivik happened, and since I don't think that much time passed between that and Jyn and Cassian going to Jedha, Jyn had to have been rescued from Wobani around the same time. and honestly, I don't think Cassian could have put together her file and found her that quickly.

is it possible? technically yes. but I find it far more believable that Jyn was already in the picture when the Kafrene meeting happened.

there's also this from the novelization:

they know about Galen. they know about Saw. there's no reason they wouldn't already be looking into Jyn, the girl who connects them both. just as a precaution - even if they aren't yet sure she's important.

[melyzard]

Okay, I’ve finished up the climax of the story, but it ran 12k long, so I cut it in half. Here’s part one of the end of i might know my heart, @kotaface!

It’s time to run.

Tivik’s mouth dropped open. “Are you insane?”

Very possibly, Cassian thought indifferently.

Read it here.

[colleybri]

Absolutely. He’s also been established, going back to the Rogue One novelisation and Andor season 1, as someone with “ a fear of being somebody who leaves people behind”. In the novelisation, it’s even linked with people he has had to kill (like Tivik). It’s the real importance of the lost sister plot imo- establishing where this character trait might have come from. Tony Gilroy has even called it Cassian’s “problematic saviour complex”. It’s just so incredibly cruel that he was too late to save Brasso, that they’ve had to leave him and B2EMO behind… so much guilt here, making those long scenes where he’s unable to do anything because he’s trapped by those idiots’ infighting not just frustrating but tragic in hindsight. I think it’s narratively important that Bix saved herself but another thing I see in this exchanged look is an acknowledgement from both of them of how incredibly fragile life is. Either one of them could go out at any time.

God, it hurts so much. What a scene.

If Diego doesn’t get serious recognition for this performance there’s no justice in the world. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him this good.

I don’t see people talking about Diego Luna’s performance in this enough. What I absolutely love about this scene was what it implied through just the way everything was communicated through the body language, the turn of the head, the eyes looking away first before the head follows. You can see grief at first, when he first looked at Bix, acknowledging who they’ve lost. Then the scene cuts to Bix who was absolutely devastated after what she had been through and after what happened to Brasso. Then the scene cuts to this, where Cassian can no longer hold eye contact. It was guilt. I didn’t come home fast enough.

I’m not sure how to articulate this well enough but when you feel guilt, or apologetic, or vulnerable, you struggle to hold eye contact, especially with the person you feel the most of these emotions towards. This was why this scene was so beautifully performed. Cassian’s guilt was the first thing I felt when I first watched this scene.

I don’t own the GIF, GIF cr to owner.

[jaqobis]

sometimes i remember all over again that tivik was headed back to jedha and even if he'd survived and gotten off kafrene somehow he would've been dead by death star in a couple of days anyway