#Time Paradox

[liznfin]

I can’t believe Artemis gets mauled by a gorilla in Time Paradox and it’s the least of his problems.

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Time paradox babyyyyy

Ive been wanting to draw them for so long bruh

Enjoy~

Time paradox belongs to Undertale AU (tbh idk who they belong to so if you know plz leave a comment down broski)

[less-undertale]

Never forget your old self, but never want to become a new man. Never want to become your past, but forget your present. Time.

(WHAT? NOOO... THERE ISNT A TIME PARADOX REFERENCE IN THIS ART???)

[percheduphere]

Loki Season 2 - End Game Theories Part 2

Part 1: (read here)

Part 2:

5.) Mobius's Plotline

6.) Sylvie's Role

7.) John = Mobius?

8.) The Original Timekeepers & Time Paradoxes

He is so wounded and lost. If he can't get a hug from anybody, he'll settle for something sweet to eat.

MOBIUS'S PLOTLINE

As I mentioned in Part 1 of my theory dump, Mobius is narratively positioned to be at his lowest point. Renslayer claims he cannot make the hard decisions or the sacrifices required to do what must be done, Brad accuses Mobius of being a nobody, and Sylvie accuses Mobius for not taking the danger facing the multiple timelines seriously (more on this in Sylvie's section).

*Sidenote: I bet Mobius has a really common name like John. More on this in John = Mobius? section.

With the latest screen captures of the mid-season trailer, it's confirmed we will see Mobius in his original timeline, but we don't know HOW he gets there. I believe there are 3 possibilities:

1.) The Loom explosion immediately throws everyone back into their original timelines (with possible exception to the gods).

2.) Mobius, with the TVA falling apart, chooses to return to his original timeline, believing that he is not necessary and will only cause more harm.

3.) The TVA and its inhabitants (with exception of the gods) slowly spaghettify and Mobius bids Loki farewell.

The images below suggest #2 and/or #3, but Loki's attire gives me pause. Unless he travels backwards or forwards in time, who would put him in the jumpsuit and collar in the present? Himself via magic, to relive how they first met before a final goodbye? If it is a final goodbye, why are they not embracing like in S1? Because it's too painful?

I wish I could figure out the timing of this moment because of its impact on the story.

If it happens BEFORE Mobius returns to his original timeline, we know Loki and Sylvie will seek him out.

If if happens AFTER Mobius is returned to his original timeline, then Loki and Sylvie found Mobius, and Mobius chose not to stay.

Regardless, when Loki finds Mobius, he does not expect Mobius to have no memory of him. (Again, sigh)

Another possibility is that this Mobius is not Loki's Mobius, and that Loki's Mobius will eventually see what could have been his life as an observer. This option, however, lowers the stakes and thus seems unlikely.

Whatever the case, I think we will find that Sylvie's and Mobius's narrative positions will be reversed in the last 2 episodes. Pre-Loom explosion, Loki and Mobius needed to convince Sylvie to join them. Post-Loom explosion, Loki and Sylvie will need Mobius back.

But the cost will be exceptionally high. Mobius was right: he knew knowing his life being incredibly good will tempt him away from the TVA and all the responsibilities, violence, and stress that come with it. He will need to give up his dream job, a lovely home in the suburbs, and family. Mobius won't be the only one challenged by making this choice, the weight of it will fall on Loki's shoulder's, too, and Loki needs to articulate how much Mobius means to him because Mobius has been more vocal and active in tending to their relationship, Ep 2 not withstanding.

We know why Loki would be motivated to find him, but what would motivate Sylvie to bring Mobius back? How can she help Loki facilitate this?

SYLVIE'S ROLE

We know that Sylvie has the ability to see other people's memories through enchantment. It's possible she will either share her memories with Mobius directly or act as a conduit between Loki and Mobius. The latter makes more sense since Loki has more positive memories of Mobius at the TVA than Sylvie does. I think she will offer to do this because: 1.) She wants to protect her timeline, and 2.) Like Loki, she will come to realize Mobius means more to her than she thought.

From what we've seen of Sylvie in her 1982 McDonald's timeline, she understandably wants nothing more than to live a calm life and make friends of her own. All of this is perfectly valid, and she is deserving of a peaceful life.

Her outburst at Mobius during the pie scene strikes me as a projection of her own guilt and feelings of helplessness, which she does not yet have the tools to deal with in a healthy way. Sophia is an exceptional actress: her micro-emotions shift from guilt to anger so quickly it is almost imperceptible if you're not watching closely. Sylvie is very much Loki as he used to be: deflecting responsibility by blaming others, mocking softness as a weakness, outbursts of yelling and violence. She wants to be left alone! And yet ...

*Sidenote: I jumped out of my seat when I saw that kid's name tag: it says "John", my personal original timeline name for Mobius since forever ago.

This is a lie. Sylvie never wanted to be alone. She wanted a place to feel happy and safe.

Look at that smile. Are you kidding me? How can anyone hate her? Mobius wants pie and hot cocoa. Sylvie wants a fast food job. Both want the comfort of normalcy. So does Loki. All of them deserve happiness.

She seems to have found a degree of these things in the 1982, Broxton, Oklahoma, Branched Timeline. Someone, however, enabled her to make a living there by getting her a job at a fast food chain ...

JOHN = Mobius?

This theory is quite a reach since the timeline is a branch, but the dates map out just right. If John (Mobius?) can't drive yet in 1982, he'd be 15, which makes his birthday 1967. Assuming this story is set in 2023 and John is Mobius, that makes John/Mobius 56. Owen Wilson is 54. Pretty darn close! I mean, look at that hand-hip pose and brown/neutral color scheme, not to mention his enthusiasm for the menu. The tie suggests he's a shift manager (someone with promising leadership skills), and he has a distinct accent.

If this kid pays off as being teen!Mobius, then I don't doubt Sylvie has a certain affection for him. In the parking lot, she asks if his mom is going to pick him up and he assures her, yes, he'll be okay. He then asks if he will see her at work the next day, and she in turn assures him she will. (If someone can find a gif of this, please let me know!) What was the point of this interaction, if not to show that Sylvie is capable of making friends and showing care towards others? If John is in fact Mobius, then what irony: they will soon create the TVA and work alongside one another again!

Sylvie will likely also feel more compassion towards Mobius if she met him as a teen. She seems to have a soft spot for kids, seeing as she gave a kid a Kablooie! which allowed Mobius and Loki to find her in S1. If John isn't Mobius, then Sylvie has at least 1 person in a timeline to protect, and that will motivate her to bring Mobius back.

They will be friends. We know, based on the image below, that they're going to make amends. We know it's going to be okay. They will unite as the 3 timekeepers because it is the right and hard thing to do. Sylvie will stay and (at least until HWR is dealt with) so will Mobius.

THE ORIGINAL 3 TIMEKEEPERS AND TIME PARADOXES

I've written before in asks to @bebx and @mobius-m-mobius that I believe the story is in a timeloop, whereby killing HWR triggers a series of events which causes Loki (and possibly Sylvie) to recruit Mobius, B-15, and Casey from their respective timelines, which means their pasts. Because the TVA is destroyed by the Loom explosion, the TVA consequently needs to be created.

And I suspect the Loom, which constrains the number of branches that can exist, was put in place by HWR after the TVA was formed by the Loki and Sylvie when they went into the past to recruit the people they've already worked with.

HWR said, "See you soon" after Sylvie kills him.

Because the Loom exploded, the Loom no longer exists.

Since the Loom no longer exists, multiple timelines come to being with variants of Kang.

Loki, Mobius, and Sylvie form an alliance against Kang to protect all timelines.

To do this, Loki and Sylvie must find Mobius in his timeline, which for the purposes of the TVA, takes place in the past.

The TVA is therefore created in a past that is running along concurrent timestreams in which the TVA already exists or is in the process of being destroyed. Remember: branches run concurrently but at different points in time. Sacred Timeline Loki's timestream is ahead of L1130 Loki's timestream; LL1130 Loki is in Sacred Timeline Loki's past before he diverges.

The TVA's original purpose was to monitor for threats like HWR and combat him.

At some point, HWR and Ravonna infiltrate the TVA and wipe everyone's memory. Note that Loki suspects it's happened more than once. They likely do this on a different concurrent timestream while Loki, Mobius, and Sylvie are actively forming an alliance and combating him in another concurrent timestream. This is why the original 3 timekeepers are consistently missing. They are in the TVA's past and future at the same time but never truly in the TVA's present. HWR rules the TVA's present.

They wipe memories once (1) to make everyone forget the original timekeepers (Loki, Mobius, Sylvie) when HWR wants to be responsible for the Sacred Timeline. His image is then brought to the TVA, the Loom is installed, and pruning begins. HWR ensures that only his temporal aura can access systems when Miss Minutes overrides TVA's control.

They do it a second time (2) to make everyone forget HWR when he gets tired of his role and wants to retire via death. The 3 timelords imagery and robots are put in place to create a lore based on fact.

HWR, being a megalomanic, does not want anyone else to govern time even though he's too fed-up with it to do it himself. He will count on another HWR to do this form him.

HWR paving the road for Loki and Sylvie to find him was never about giving them the power to govern time (lies!). He needed them to facilitate a timeloop in which HWR always returns to create and control the sacred timeline in the TVA's present.

Sylvie kills him. The "end of time" takes place. The timelines branch uncontrollably. The Loom explodes. Loki, Sylvie, and Mobius build the TVA in the past.

Rinse and repeat.

The loop in itself calls into question free will.

Loki, Sylvie, and Mobius need to figure out how to break out of the loop.

This is a lot! If you made it this far, thank you so much for reading. I hope you enjoyed. Let me know what you think!

[svyat-da-boev]

SANS SPHERE PARADOX: Personal Bullcrap You Will Not Understand But Mari Is Involved

a-side: sans sphere-centered, mari scaled down to a sprite as planned

b-side: mari-centered, uses the unscaled drawing because i like it too

[caprin-fishie]

The lich he could’ve become

And the wizard he once was

The time paradox intertwining his fates

[capt-janeway-dqvc]

I have no idea what I'm doing on this site, but just like everything else in life, I'll figure it out. New to Tumblr, but not new to Daylight Saving time ending, so I guess my first post is a meme.

[xxrobotessaxx]

The Drone Came Back - Roleplay for @tessajameselliot1001

Once again, the dark turquoise haired drone stepped into the time rift, bringing a bag of goodies from her beauty shop. Lots of manic panic, some pretty bows, and a ton of pretty rocks. She had a skip in her step, even if the manor made her anxious. The pale blue eyed drone leaned through the doorway and knocked on the open door, today in a black gothic dress with white ribbons and lace. She trilled in a friendly tone, "Hello Tessa, I'm back again!"

[professor-geen-berries]

I just had a thought

what if the Mandela effect is just time travellers fucking up small parts of history? Like, what if instead of the whole world changing when you kill a mosquito, some teeny weeny fact gets switched up and that's why everyone thinks that some quote or logo is one thing when it's actually another? It's our collective memory not processing the change fully, and when you say "oh I could have sworn the quote was this, not that", well, it was that, but not anymore!

[andrewcrag]

Seedless Bloom

A role-playing epic of time traveling cultures torn amid tragedy and hubris.

This free tabletop role-playing game released under a Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 license might suit you if you're interested in…

…a serious approach to time travel as a culture.

…learning new ways of thinking and a new vocabulary that comes with it.

…role-playing the epic exploits of time travelers whose lives are torn between tragedy and hubris.

…setting up the problems and antagonists you're facing.

…a boiling pace sustained by a mechanic using real time.

…playing a narrative, procedural PbtA(Powered By The Apocalypse) game with approachable, directed mechanics that support the above.

[gear-project]

Wait, Axl Low has a picture of Megumi, his girlfriend. So those encounters with I-No....why couldn't they recognize each other? Especially Axl since he keeps something that helps him remember her?

I-No explained it: her memories were blurred to the point of almost feeling like they belonged to someone else, not to mention the sequence of events didn't match up with the history of her dictated past.

Her past and her actual memories didn't match, they were a paradox.

By contrast, Axl Low couldn't convince himself that I-No was the same woman he knew. She was completely different in behavior, actions, and ambition.

It's like if you had married a woman and lived with her for 30 years only to wake up and find someone else in your bed.

It's a horrifying prospect for anyone in a relationship, but that sometimes happens in issues of amnesia or a mid-life crisis.

Axl was also struggling to fully comprehend his burgeoning powers to even "look" at I-No clearly at the time as well. He was time-slipping (changing the timeline) with great frequency due to the fluctuation of his emotions and memories.

This gets even more complex when I-No encounters her "past self" and sees a completely different person to who she remembered herself to be. Like having a split personality of sorts.

A person's history really can define the kind of person they actually are. And if that history were to change even in the slightest, so too would their experiences and ways of thinking.

[veetri-bitcrush]

Thinking about how they went and upgraded Raiden's model just to make that shitpost video teasing MGS4.

[homestuck-music-tournament]

Time Paradox

Album: The Felt Composer: Thomas Ferkol Leitmotifs: None Characters: Doc Scratch, Felt

[choppedcowboydinosaur]

Terminator Zero has an interesting take on time travel within the Terminator Universe. The resistance leader character seems to promote the idea that each new time jump into the past creates a new timeline instead of it all being one continuous loop. This could be done as a way to resolve the other movies. But the shows plot seems to present a time loop especially with some character revelations towards the end of the season. Maybe they will explain it further if it is a loop or not in season 2. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.