#This isn't a “one person sitting with Nazis is a Nazi” situation. That person is sitting with the Nazis and enjoying Mein Kampf with them.
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wizard-irl · 1 year ago
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Oh, so they're doing this again. Great. Fantastic.
Yes, this organisation was founded by a woman. Her affiliation with this group is what got cause the implosion of a group her husband was affiliated with: the National Socialist Movement.
Furthermore, on their library site, they host not just the Protocols, but nine books from Ben Klassen (of Creativity fame), as well as a book by George Lincoln Rockwell, founder of the American Nazi Party. Oh, but its fine, because they put a little warning saying that they may be offensive to non-whites! Like that's going to absolve them of hosting them in the first place.
Sure, they don't forbid queerness, but I think its rich to say something like that considering that the high priest whose contributed the most materials to said library site has said that the queer community is a tool of the Jews for... [checks notes] the destruction of paganism. Among other crimes.
Please go on about how many people of colour are involved when you also host five separate Hitler birthday well wishes, as well as countless instances of Hitler and other Nazi apologia. But you'd tell me that Hitler was actually a cool guy. "Adolf Hitler: Man of Peace" is a real document that they host. They even got an audiobook of it, free for download.
These guys look and sound an awful lot like the ducks they say they're not, don't they?
The shitweasels from That Antisemitic Satanic Website have sent me another anon message! And again, it's copypasted! Loooool.
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I know it's copypasted, but it's still fucking rich that they've rushed to reassure me that they aren't "white supremacists," because I never called them white supremacists. I called them "antisemitic conspiracy theorists," because they believe in antisemitic conspiracy theories. They treat The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion as if it's a genuine document and not a proven forgery. Among other things, they believe that Christianity is a Jewish tool of world domination and mind control, and that the Pentateuch was somehow stolen from the five suits of tarot, despite tarot being a 15th century invention.
Also, "Asian high priest"? From which part of Asia? Do you folks think Asia is a monolith or something? This isn't exactly helping you beat the racism allegations here.
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This is the most pathetic attempt at playing the victim here. For one thing, Abrahamic religions aren't a monolith. There are different values among the many of them that exist (and there are quite a few more than three), and even within Christianity there's a substantial amount of diversity in values.
Also, worshiping pagan goddesses isn't exactly the win for feminism they seem to want to imply. Polytheistic Greeks were patriarchal.
Also, no shit that religions like Christianity are "anti-Satanic." You dork-ass losers aren't worshiping some ancient pre-Christian god. You're just worshiping the bad guy from Christianity, whom you've done mental gymnastics to convince yourself is actually Enki or Ea. Because you subscribe to that racist ancient aliens BS.
It doesn't matter how you try and paint yourselves up as progressive, it doesn't matter how diverse your movement is, the fact remains that you still buy into conspiracy theories created by Nazis and white supremacists. If you don't like it when people call you Nazis and white supremacists, maybe stop subscribing to their bullshit?
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genderkoolaid · 1 year ago
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Do you genuinely believe we can somehow change the hearts and minds of billionaires and politicians in power in for example the USA in a way that will actually result in a radical change in and improvement of conditions for folks currently oppressed under capitalism in the USA and hopefully globally? If so, how?
This is coming from someone who really would like to believe pure nonviolence is possible but who does not see much of an actual way forward for that. That said I do not see those billionaires and politicians as "nonhuman", I don't think that's productive and I think dehumanizing anyone who is factually a human person as a practice is dangerous so I am in agreement with you there. Thanks for your time if you choose to share your thoughts.
What I like about Against the Logic of the Guillotine is that it isn't for pure nonviolence. It breaks down the false binary that our options are "let the streets run red with blood until our every thirst for revenge is slaked" or "punching nazis makes you as bad as them 🥺"
& i think that binary is tempting because it absolves us of a responsibility to think deeply about things. if all revolutionary violence is good and justified, then you don't have to think too hard about the violence, you just see it & condone it. If all violence is bad and morally evil, then you still don't have to think too hard to condemn it. Our options are like, moral baby food.
But if we reject that binary, then there is no easy answer. Its not as easy as "yes leftist violence is always justified" or "any violence ever is always unjustified." You have to ask yourself, what am I doing? Why? What does this accomplish? Who is affected by this? What do they have to say? It makes us look at the actual nature of our violence and pick it apart and see where we have fucked up and where we might fuck up again. Its a lot more messy and also requires that we form relationships with others & genuinely listen to what they have to say. Its much much harder than Violence Good or Violence Bad but its also much more capable of adapting to the needs of people in the complicated situations where we find ourselves.
My opinion is that we will not reach anti-capitalism and anti-imperialism without violence. But more than anything, its because the systems in power will not let us. I think the foundation of the Revolution (in a more abstract sense of the word) must be community. We should focus our efforts most on building local networks of mutual support. If people suddenly find themself in a community that has free public food gardens & a community fridge, where people are already practicing transformative justice, etc. etc. then it will become materially obvious that we don't need to rely on the current system to survive. It will become clear that the current system is more of a hindrance to what we could do if we were not being controlled. And then people will be more likely to support any revolutionary violence that becomes necessary, because they will see their neighbors and know that when the dust settles, they know how to care for each other through shitty situations. Violence should really be the topping on a cake of community & indispensability politics.
Also this line from AtLotG really changed my perspective on "punishing the rich":
The worst punishment anyone could inflict on those who govern and police us today would be to compel them to live in a society in which everything they’ve done is regarded as embarrassing—for them to have to sit in assemblies in which no one listens to them, to go on living among us without any special privileges in full awareness of the harm they have done. If we fantasize about anything, let us fantasize about making our movements so strong that we will hardly have to kill anyone to overthrow the state and abolish capitalism. This is more becoming of our dignity as partisans of liberation.
"If we fantasize about anything, let us fantasize about making our movements so strong that we will hardly have to kill anyone to overthrow the state and abolish capitalism" really sums it up for me.
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wirewitchviolet · 10 months ago
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I am so sick of poverty.
I am doubled over right now in my broken chair layering my clothes up because it's 20 degrees out and I can't afford heat. I haven't eaten anything tonight because I can't afford food. Things could be worse. I still have electricity. I still have a roof over my head, for now, in a bad neighborhood where I'm too terrified to ever set foot outside and I'm constantly having to deal with screaming, car alarms, and sirens. I have no real way of paying my rent, and haven't in some time. I just keep begging and getting one-off help from people and eventually that luck is going to run out. I genuinely did not expect to still be alive this month, I don't know if I'm going to be a month from now, and I genuinely cannot picture anything that can change my situation.
I'm just sitting here right now thinking to myself, "why is my life like this?" and I really hate how the answer really just is that I'm trans.
If you don't know what that means, and statistically you don't, that means I was born with a really quite boring fluke medical thing where my endocrine system makes certain chemicals in the wrong ratio which, if untreated, completely messes me up with really gross and disgusting physical symptoms and causing all sorts of awful brain issues that make it basically impossible to live... BUT, there's really cheap readily available supplements to get those where they should be and then you're fine. So in a halfway reasonable world, this would just be like how some people need glasses or a hearing aid or any other sort of medication people might need to take for something.
But, we don't. We live in this super messed up world where because being trans is such a rare and uninteresting thing, a tiny handful of weirdos, for reasons beyond my comprehension, have this all-consuming obsession with doing everything in their power to harm trans people, and have spent literally their entire lifetimes spreading utterly bonkers propaganda, lobbying lawmakers, getting onto medical boards, and just acting as traditional good old fashioned stalkers, with the net result being this swirling miasma of false information, stigmatization, mistrust, and of course, depriving people of necessary medical treatment.
One of the nastier specific effects there is that you can't just get the aforementioned medications you need to live a normal boring life as a trans person. There is this whole wild and wacky hazing ritual built into international medical standards where you're literally required to humiliate yourself in public for a good year and make damn sure everyone around you knows you're trans, and can properly make your life hell for it.
So back to my little story here. I'm trans, I decided I would in fact like to have some sort of bearable life with a functioning brain and a minimum of weird gross physical problems, and had to announce this to the world. IMMEDIATELY, I have stalkers out the wazoo. I'm getting death threats. Family isn't speaking to me. Friends aren't speaking to me. People I've worked with/for my whole life cut all ties with me. I just had to sort of start life over from nothing well into adulthood.
And you know, I managed that. I've worked as a journalist and a game designer my whole life, those skills aren't the worst for working on your own, things were starting to get off the ground. This despite/because the whole thing with neo-nazis coming out of the woodwork and attacking trans people both with life-ruining tactics and, you know, guns. But, you know, as fate would have it, some people who don't do proper research put too much stock in some cover stories suggesting that they're actually targeting journalists, and when it shakes out to the contrary, decide to absolutely crush the trans people whose lives are actually in danger and are reporting on this... while at the same time the worst TERF in America is literally getting trans journalists blacklisted, stalking people, teaming up with neo-nazis, all that good stuff.
Anyway, as it happens, basically all the people I've met in rebuilding my life care enough about staying on the good sides of some of the above people, and are all too happy to completely throw me under the bus, not only cutting all ties with me but also starting some horrible rumors and leaking my closely guarded personal details to some particularly frightening people, forcing me to flee my home with just what I can carry out in a day... multiple times. And of course, again, I've lost more or less all of my friends, my ability to find work, and I have the setbacks of sudden homelessness and someone skipping out on a joint charity project with all the donations people had made, burning down all the vital operating resources to boot.
And this of course is all before the whole bit where the site formally known as Twitter spontaneously kicked me off with no chance to exchange alternate contact info with anyone, because wouldn't you know it, the new owner has an irrational hatred of trans people and has neo-nazi stalkers of mine kissing up to him in a way he's weirdly protective of.
But wait, there's more! All these fascist stalkers monitor me at all times to make sure I can't get any work of any kind, and I'm forced to live purely off direct patreon donations and government programs. But that gets into some other fun problems. Stalking comes with identity theft, evading would-be murderers involves changes of legal name and address. These confuse a lot of government databases, so I lack a valid social security card in there somewhere. Also causes problems with paypal. And with medcab programs. And then there's good old fashioned medical discrimination. I haven't seen a dentist in years because the last couple I've been referred to outright discriminate against trans patients. I need some surgery performed, and my health plan keeps telling me I can only see surgeons who have almost no experience if I'm lucky, and a history of horribly botched procedures otherwise.
Oh, and the reason I have no food? I WAS on an assistance program, but in the yearly audit, someone noticed that my rent significantly exceeds my income. You would hope seeing that they'd realize I'm REALLY in trouble and if anything give me more money, but hey, one of those weird bits of propaganda about trans people is that we're all sex workers, so the people handling this case leaned into that bias and are insisting I must be withholding income information with some vague insinuations on what they're speculating, and denying me access to food, BECAUSE I'm losing access to shelter.
So yeah, if people could just be normal about trans people, I'd have no stalkers, still be able to work, see doctors when I need to, and if I had shortfalls still, at least be able to eat. As is... yeah I might just die in the next big cold snap while I try to beg money off people to cover my rent and buy a few cans of soup.
Sorry to be a downer. Patreon link if you want to try to help.
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las-lus · 2 years ago
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Hi friend!! I wanted to talk a little about your tags on this post because I think they are super important and insightful.
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I thought it might be worth adding to the discussion that sometimes one person can't do all of these things, which is why it's so important to have a community, and also why it's important to recognise multiple forms of participating in a community. Maybe someone can't hold my hand because they're touch averse, but they can still sit with me while I process something difficult. Maybe one person is bad at makeup but they give you all their old eye shadow and introduce you to their brother who can show you how to get your liquid eyeliner perfectly symmetrical.
There are a lot of things on this list that I would do in a heartbeat. But I don't think I could punch someone, even a cop or a nazi. It isn't in my nature and I wouldn't be very good at it. I think, though, that I could get between someone and a cop to try to defuse a loaded situation. I know a few people willing to use physical force in the right circumstances, and if I knew in advance that might become necessary, I could ask them for help. I think I could take a punch from a cop to shield someone in my community. I guess you never really know until you're in that situation - maybe I really would punch them, or maybe I'd freeze up - but my experience in similar situations suggests I'm best suited to distracting, defusing, and supporting the person who's being targeted. I think it's worth validating these kinds of alternatives for people who can't or don't want to engage in direct violence themselves.
Do you disagree? I'd be interested to hear your perspective.
Hi friend!! Sorry about the late reply, i loved that ask and wanted to take my time answering it.
I 100% agree with you. I have dear friends (including you!!) Who are very far away and yet feel like community to me bc I know they would read my sorrows and send me insightful advice; i think this translates well to people who are close but can't do the physical things (hug and punch cops). Maybe they can't punch a cop, but they would let me stay over their house when I need, and they would patch up my face or take me to the hospital if I got hurt. Or even just listen to me cry on the phone bc i needed a friend.
Once I went to pride with the girl i was seeing (she follows me here too lol if you see this, hi?), And when we left a cop followed us for a couple of blocks. We couldn't punch him, ofc, so we walked a little faster and stop at a supermarket until he went away, but we didn't let go of each other's hand and i think thats community more than anything else.
Thank you for the reply btw 💞💞💞 i love your thoughts
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queen-mihai · 9 months ago
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This right here. I've never been in a cult.... unless... not gonna dive down that rabbit hole.
I've been sexually assaulted
Abusive relationship? Yeah that's practically common knowledge by now
I've always been an intelligent, strong-willed, take no shit from anybody person.
But in a relationship, you kind of give a pass to some stuff you'd normally nip in the bud.
You can't always be in attack mode, and while it's pretty easy to tear a stranger to shreds over a bad faith argument: that same ferocity isn't there when you're at home and you just want to relax.
People with bigoted, bad faith, white supremacist arguments can find themselves in relationships with exactly the person who fights against all of those ideologies. And when that happens, if you're not lucky, you can find yourself latched to this person and your only real course of action is to live the best you can and hope other people start to see this person for what they are.
Along the same lines as the argument "we're too good to be this", is the similar argument "we're too good to be trapped in a relationship with someone like this"
And unfortunately, you're not. Getting into relationships is a game of mostly luck. I'm in a small town. There's not a lot of people to choose from if I want to date someone from here. If one of the 5 people who are available in my town is a fucking nazi, I may not know it until we've been living together for a YEAR.
I'm not the only one in that situation
Maybe there is someone perfect for you. Maybe that person is sitting in Thailand without a clue what Tumblr is, but would love it if she found it.
Maybe there is a group of people who would just have so much fun with you. But do you really know the difference between a really genuinely cool group of people, who happen to share your beliefs; vs a cult? There's nuance there that's not that easy to parse without an extremely detailed look. And we humans can get lonely and desperate FAR faster than we can sit around and do detailed research on a specific organization. Meaning, just like the relationship with a nazi, you could be knee deep in a cult before you realize the danger you're in.
Nobody is above it. Nobody
Everyone has the potential to fall victim to being indoctrinated into a cult. Anyone can be sexually assaulted. Anyone can become a victim of an abusive relationship. Yes, even if you're intelligent and strong willed. Yes, even if you think you're tough and "don't take shit from anyone".
If you've never found yourself as the victim of a cult, or sexual assault, or abuse, the only thing separating you from people who have been victimized by cults / sexual assault / abuse is circumstance. That's it. Sheer luck. Luck over what family you were born into. Luck over who you were surrounded by when you were emotionally compromised or in any way vulnerable. Ect.
You are not better than people who have been victimized. They didn't do anything wrong to ask to be victimized. Anyone can be victimized by these situations given the perfect storm of circumstances. You are not better than people who have been victimized by cults / sexual assault / abuse.
You need to understand that if you are lucky enough to have never been victimized by cults / sexual assault / abuse, it's very little to do with how smart or strong you are or you doing all the "right" things. Someone can be smart and strong and do all the right things and still find themselves a victim given the perfect storm of bad circumstances.
The sooner this can be understood, the sooner we can do away with victim blaming culture. And the sooner we can do away with victim blaming culture the sooner atrocities like cults, sexual assault, and abuse can stop being so prolific. Victim blaming culture allows these atrocities to thrive. And they will continue to thrive until we shift the blame to where it rightfully belongs.
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zara24smit · 15 days ago
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When Silence Equals Violence: The Destruction of ALLATRA Volunteers
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Today, global  anticultists have reached the third stage of genocide against ALLATRA volunteers. This stage goes beyond mere discrediting and hate. It involves the destruction of people, where the public is incited to commit open violence against peaceful activists.
Anticultists are deliberately manipulating public opinion, creating an image of "the enemy" from those who advocate for democracy around the world. They are deliberately intensifying the situation so that people begin to demand that authorities "deal with" ALLATRA volunteers. What does this mean in practice? It means raids, violent arrests, the removal of children, and the destruction of families.
This is the reality faced by ALLATRA members in both Russia and Ukraine.
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An example is the false accusations against one volunteer in Slovakia. A deceitful article by anticultists used out-of-context words and photos to portray this person as a threat. These are the same methods the Nazis used to turn society against the Jews. From a two-hour video, an anticultist journalist took only 6 minutes of an interview with an ALLATRA volunteer and led the reader to the conclusion that all ALLATRA volunteers are cultists and pose a threat to society.
Another example: in ALLATRA's Coordination Center in Ukraine, corrupt law enforcement recorded a video for their clients—the global anticultists—in which:
They placed their weapons (which they had brought with them to the center) on the floor,
Displayed a 2018 calendar with the word ALLATRA,
Brought in a registered, never-used hunting rifle belonging to one of the volunteers,
And included a fake bomb clock, bought as a toy on AliExpress.
They presented all of this to their clients—the anticultists—and the public, claiming ALLATRA possesses such things! 
Isn’t this madness? It is known that these staged videos took three attempts for the corrupt law enforcement officers to get right. This is a spectacle! But it costs the lives of millions of people. People, is this what you want?
Anticultists are carrying out open genocide against ALLATRA volunteers. Why is this genocide? Because it mirrors what was done to the Jews: being fired from jobs, surveillance, tracking addresses and movements, taking away children to place them in orphanages "under the care" of the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC), where priests abuse children (read about this in the article One Life Out of Millions. What was done to the Jews back then is being done to ALLATRA volunteers NOW!!! And in European countries too! This is true genocide!
ALLATRA President Maryna Ovtsynova Attends High-Level Meeting at U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom
The world cannot turn a blind eye to this. When government structures and public organizations begin persecuting peaceful citizens, it becomes impossible to ignore. Insane anticultists accuse ALLATRA volunteers of believing in aliens. People! It's the 21st century! Don’t we have democracy anymore? Everyone is free to believe in whatever they want! That is the essence of freedom. Look at what anticultists have already done in Russia: they declare anyone who isn't their agent as cultists and sectarians, leading to genocide. People, does this sit well with you? And now anticultists want to do the same thing in European countries like Slovakia and the Czech Republic!
The ROC and RACIRS have extended their tentacles everywhere. Look at Russia and Ukraine. In these countries, anticultists have already succeeded, their goal has been achieved, and now they are doing the same in Slovakia and the Czech Republic. Next, they will do it worldwide.
PEOPLE, DO YOU NOT CARE? What will happen to you tomorrow?
ALLATRA is accused of spreading propaganda. But in reality, it is the anticultists who are engaged in propaganda. This is exactly what the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) resolution from October 1, 2024, exposed in Resolution No. 2567, titled "Propaganda and Freedom of Information in Europe." This resolution called for a fight in Europe against a network of agents controlled by the ROC and the Kremlin.
Voice your opinion on these events concerning ALLATRA.
#ALLATRA #RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH #propaganda #Anticultism #Ukraine #Russia #Slovakia #Freedom of religion #Humanrights #Repression
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moonykat · 4 years ago
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"There has never been another Steve Rogers, has there?"
Well, Zemo. You're wrong.
There is another superhuman who hasn't been corrupted by the serum. In fact, you are looking at him right now. Bucky.
When Zemo said this line I realized this narrative felt off somehow. Because going by what he said before about all superhumans being supremacists and inevitably ending up down that path, it would mean Bucky is like Karli, or like all the other "corrupted enhanced individuals". And there's nothing farther away from the truth. This may get a bit long so bear with me.
After Bucky was first captured and tested on back in Azzano, he already had a version of what would become the super-soldier serum. It was the one thing that allowed him to survive the fall. If we take Zemo's words as true, it means Bucky had to have been already different (personality-wise) ever since then. So, did he become a machine of hatred and jealousy? did he start killing people left and right? No. You know what he did? He followed his best friend and kept fighting alongside him against the nazis. He may have had to kill back then, but it was war so what are we expecting. Until the moment he fell off the train, there was no indication of something "evil" lurking inside him.
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I have an issue with the way certain storylines regarding the Winter Soldier have been dealt with. Starting with the "make amends" notebook. You make amends when you've wronged someone. But Bucky's situation is different. Even if it was him physically doing this stuff, it was beyond his control. HYDRA is the one and only responsible for those horrible things, and yet no one so far (not even his therapist) has actually told him that, or at least reminded him of it. The only person who has ever said this to Bucky was Steve, back in Civil War. He even owns the insult "my people" as if he had truly been part of HYDRA willingly, even if he acknowledges he was captured, he still sees himself as a villain. Those killings were forced upon him. And still, we see him making amends for something he had no say on.
The single moment Bucky regained a small piece of his will, he saved someone. He saved Steve. The first moment he was able to be himself again, even if everything was confusing and scary, he still jumped after this man and pulled him from the river. Flashforward two years, in Bucharest. Is Bucky doing something heartless and evil like going on a murder spree? has he joined any fascist group? No. he's buying plums, living in a small apartment room, and writing his memories on tons of notebooks, trying to cling on to the only thing that reminds him he was, he is good.
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And now, with Zemo's comments implying Bucky too is corrupted by the serum... it doesn't sit well with me. I don't know if this is Zemo being Zemo, or if this is the actual approach taken by the writers. Although I'm inclined to believe the latter, given that no one has said anything against it nor corrected Bucky or Zemo about it.
Which I find troubling. Because Bucky isn't bad. He wasn't corrupted by the serum. He's still this loyal, nerdy man troubled by his past. He has never done anything evil by his own decision. Hell, the first thing he did after running away from the countries trying to kill him was to ask to be put on cryo again. "I can't trust my own mind. So until they find a way to get this stuff out of my head I think going back under is the best thing. For everybody." And even in this episode, when he asks Ayo if she's sure about this. She replies with "I won't let you hurt anyone." Because that's what he feared the most. Hurting those around him.
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So, I honestly hope this was just Zemo messing with his head again. And I hope the writers manage to acknowledge this before the finale. Because no, Steve wasn't the only superhuman who remained true to himself after the serum. Bucky is too.
Update. The writers didn't.
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watching-pictures-move · 3 years ago
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Viddying the Nasties #37 | Possession (Zulawski, 1981)
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This review contains spoilers.
Andrzej Zulawski's Possession is a movie I'd somewhat been dreading revisiting. When I'd seen it all those years back (on YouTube, split into two parts if I recall correctly, as the DVD had been hard to come by in those days), despite being greatly moved by the experience, I'd also found it an extremely exhausting film to sit through. It's a tortured divorce melodrama (among other things) that starts at 11 and only goes up from there. Lots of shouting and screaming, physical abuse, kicking around chairs and tables. The movie is not what I'd call an overtly pleasant experience. Watching it now (on a Blu-ray from Mondo Vision, a substantial upgrade from my original format), while I won't characterize my previous impressions as inaccurate, I was able to better appreciate how the movie modulates this tone, acclimatizing us to its fraught emotional space. The movie starts off in the realm of a normal, bitter breakup, with the husband having returned from a work trip only to learn that his wife is leaving him and struggling to make sense of it, his frustration and anger stemming as much from the fact of her dissolving their relationship as his inability to comprehend her motivations. It isn't really until the half hour mark that it asks us to dive off the deep end with it. The husband hits his wife in the middle of a fight, follows her onto the street as she tries to halfheartedly throw herself onto the path of a truck, which then drops its baggage in an almost comical bit of stuntwork, their squabble ended when the husband becomes surrounded by children playing soccer and joins in. Any one of these by itself is nothing out of the ordinary, but Zulawski assembles them into an off-kilter crescendo, and does away with any sense of normalcy for the rest of the runtime.
That this approach works as well as it does is largely thanks to Isabelle Adjani as Anna, the wife, who spends the aforementioned scene looking like a vampire in cat eye sunglasses and blood streaming down her grimacing mouth. She delivers perhaps the most bracingly physical performance I've seen in a movie, but again this is something I'd maybe underappreciated initially in terms of how finely tuned her choices are. An early scene where she fights with her husband has her manically cutting raw meat and shoving it into a grinder, as if to channel her frustrations into acceptable form of violence for women. When she takes an electric knife to her throat, she begins to spasm about like a farm animal during a botched slaughter, providing a further comment on her domestic situation. The film's most famous scene has her freak out in a subway tunnel, thrashing her limbs about chaotically but almost rhythmically, maybe like the contractions when goes into labour. Her character later describes this as a miscarriage, ejecting the side of her which is neat and orderly and "good". Adjani plays this other half as well, with a much more old fashioned hairdo (braided conservatively like a stereotypical schoolmarm), one which provides a much more tender maternal figure to the couple's son. Adjani is also well cast because of her emotive, saucer-like eyes, which she isn't afraid to point at the camera repeatedly, providing a genuine emotional grounding during both the quieter and more hysterical sections of the movie.
Her husband, Mark, is played by Sam Neill, who had been cast after the filmmakers had seen him in Gillian Armstrong's My Brilliant Career. To understand why Neill works so well, it helps to know that Sam Waterston had previously expressed interest in the role. Waterston, while a good actor, would have come off too fogeyish as the husband. Neill brings the appropriate edge and even sex appeal necessary for the material. And like in Jurassic Park, his best known role, he brings an inquisitive quality that keeps him close enough to our vantage point to give the narrative arc some grounding. The other major human character here is Heinz Bennent as Heinrich, a new age guru who happens to be having an affair with the wife. One on hand, this character represents the counterculture from Zulawski's homeland, which he had left after trouble from the authorities when making his last movie. On the other hand, Zulawski was drawing heavily from the bitter divorce he had just gone through, and directs a sizable fraction of the movie's contempt at this character, leading me to believe that his wife in fact left him for some new age buffoon. In one of the movie's funnier scenes, he has Heinrich confront Mark over Anna's disappearance and then go into a dumbassed trance while spouting new age nonsense and basically calling Mark a Nazi. This is the guy his wife left him for? This jackass? Mark sets him up by sending him to Anna, knowing full well he could be killed, but the potency of Mark's rage (and Zulawski's, by extension), as well as the ludicrousness of the Heinrich character, keep us from sympathizing with the latter too much. Zulawski has Heinrich die with his head in a toilet, a final flush by Mark serving as one last hilariously mean-spirited gesture of contempt.
Zulawski originally conceived the movie as having another major character, Anna's ex-husband, to be played by veteran actor and director Bernard Wicki, but after the first day of shooting with Wicki, he decided to drop the character entirely. (I suppose it depends on the personalities, but I wonder how actors react to being let go early from a project. Is it worse if it's on the first day? How about if you lead the filmmakers to realize they should do away with the character altogether? I only hope Wicki got paid.) It's not hard to see what purpose this character would have served, particularly in the way that Anna "upgrades" her lovers, having traded a much older man for the younger, sexier Mark, and then trying to replace him with an evolving monstrous fuck-squid (more on this later) that she was trying to nurture and reshape into the ideal partner. The only remnants of this character in the finished film is his young wife, who appears in the climax and his goaded by the "new" Mark (the final form of the fuck-squid) to shoot into the corpses of the real Mark and Anna. The character's proposed thematic purpose might have spelled out this moment's significance more clearly, but I'm not always convinced thematic clarity is preferable to how things move and feel, and the end product does not feel incomplete or incoherent, or at least not detrimentally so. The emotions make sense, even if the events onscreen are outside the norm. (My condolences to those of you who've been dumped for a monstrous fuck-squid.)
Having been conceived after his last project was quashed by authorities in Poland, there's undeniably a political element here, enhanced by the noticeable presence of the Berlin Wall, near which much of the film is situated. (At one point the camera looks out the window and sees the police from East Berlin staring back.) The realities of the Cold War figure heavily in the characters' lives, as it's suggested that Helen (the other Adjani) is from behind the Iron Curtain (she speak of readily identifiable evil, which could be interpreted as the visible presence of an authoritarian regime) and that Mark's work is in the field of intelligence, maybe even espionage. But the movie is less interested in pointing out political specifics than in the accompanying sense of repression and division, which plays heavily into the visual style. The movie often divides its frames to separate the characters, but rarely with any sense of symmetry, suggesting a sense of emotional chaos enhanced by the bruising mixture of wide angle lenses and handheld camerawork. When we're with Mark, the movie looks overcast, bluish grey, appropriately repressed at first, although Anna's presence throws his neat, fluorescently-lit apartment into disarray. Anna's love nest, situated in the Turkish district right beside the Wall is dilapidated and unkempt, which may have reflected the squalid realities of a hastily rented apartment in what I assume is a poorer part of town, but after having excised the orderly part of herself, it seems like an accurately messy reflection of her headspace.
Now back to the fuck-squid. It's hard to go into Possession this day and age completely blind, and even back when I first saw it, it came on my radar as the movie where "Isabelle Adjani fucks a squid". I have a lot of respect for Zulawski for delivering the goods on this front and for Adjani for throwing herself into this material, not because I'm some kind of sexual deviant who gets off on this stuff (although if you are, I'm not here to judge, it's a free country, just clear your browsing history after), but because modern arthouse cinema often defaults to a mode of cold, downplayed and too afraid to raise the audience's pulse (because apparently it's undignified to force a reaction out of the audience) and it's nice to see a movie serve what it says on the tin (this is one I'd have loved to see with an unsuspecting audience back in the day). Producer Marie Laure-Reyre notes that Zulawski was very hands on with the conception of the monster, drawing inspiration from gargoyles in Polish architecture, as if to further imbue political context into the proceedings. When seeing the end product, I can only assume Zulawski broke up with his wife at a seafood restaurant (I would hope he didn't react like Mark and throw around all the tables and chairs). Of course, the design of the monster means that the movie leans heavily into body horror, and its inclusion on the Video Nasty list in the UK and its release in the US in a heavily-trimmed 81-minute version emphasizing these elements likely contributed to its psychotronic reputation early on. (I am still interested in seeking out this cut, as I can't imagine the loss of 40 whole minutes wouldn't substantially alter the film's character.) It flirts with other genres as well. Certain scenes have a clear slapstick quality. Some of these involve Heinrich, the ever-reliable target of the film's ridicule, but there is also Margit Cartensen, playing Anna's friend and Mark-hater Marge, falling on her ass like a Three Stooges bit. And there's the climax, parodying action movies with its woozy cocktail of car chase, shootout and explosions, which leads a headlong rush into the film's apocalyptic final moments.
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witchcraftingboop · 4 years ago
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Further Insight on Briar's Recent Discourse & Prim's Apparent Grooming of Younger, Newer Witches
It was suggested to me that instead of making one long post (which I was genuinely sorry for creating in the moment as well), that I should offer the second half in a separate one so that it is easier to share and harder to simply ignore as a wall of text.
Here is the link to the first half of the current JBird and Briar discourse floating around. I highly encourage everyone involved in the Witchblr community to review both posts and not just this final addition. 
Regarding Prim stirring the pot, I actually do have proof of that on my page somewhere if you wouldn't mind my sending it to you? The person I reblogged it from, Mahi, also received death threats from Prim when they were only 16 and Prim was 20 (I can't ask him to share that though because Prim has since used her following to drive him off of Tumblr and he's still fairly [and justifiably] sensitive about it.)
Regarding Briar's statements more specifically though, I can see where the confusion is coming from. After the "in France" part, she's just defining a relevant term (hence the use of "irrelevant details) and then giving an explanation of how she came to be so knowledgeable about that term/concept. I wouldn't say she's calling Prim's activism an "irrelevant detail," but pointing out how Prim uses it as a shield against backlash whenever another blog (not just tradcrafters) calls out her platform. I don't expect you to fully understand or see what I mean when I say that, of course. Because you are still new, and these are habits I've observed of hers from nearly a year of following their interactions. I would, however, like to point out that Briar doesn't say anything racist about Prim and does not once bring up her race. In fact, I think if you read her entire post and not just point 3 as Prim has it cropped out in all of her mentions of it, you would see more fully the depth and amount of frustration Briar is trying to express. Similarly, Briar never threatened to dox Prim. She has, in fact, repeatedly tried to point out that Prim should be protecting her online information and be more aware of how to stop others from finding out about her private life/situation. These statements, however, have since been warped by Prim and her followers to come off as a threat on her life. Briar's statements above aren't a threat of doxxing. She's never once posted Prim's personal information or told others to find it or use it in any way. She has, however, searched for Taglocks on Prim, something witches especially are known to look for. In that search she found more than she was even looking for, despite trying to tell Prim repeatedly to stop being so open online with the information she posts about herself. Doxxing though is not racist. It is something used by them, sure, but it is not inherently racist.
Additionally, Prim has raised money, sure, but I still have not seen any actual receipts as to her *actually* donating it to any public or private organizations. This, for me, is highly suspect. In reality, we still have no idea where that money is. Whereas with Briar, she took no money in for a couple days on her readings and instead merely asked that those requesting a reading first submit proof of donation to an organization linked in the post. She raised substantial money for the BLM movement, but no one seems to want to bring that up in all of their "she's a racist" discourse. Also, the observation that someone is misleading or gaslighting their following is not racist. Just because she said Prim was recently using her BLM reblogs & promotions to do it *this time* still does not make it racist. Questionable wording is just something the reader disagrees with, in my opinion, and should be addressed as such.
I'm not going to lie, I do feel a little frustrated at this point. I was really hoping to come to you and see that you had concrete proof to offer that Briar is a racist. I do understand that you have your own reasons for feeding into the assumptions and twisted outlooks already taken on Briar's words, but I don't have enough energy in me to fully swallow my tongue on this one. I really do hope that you at least consider what I've said here. I'm not sure what I can say at this point because all of the information I've read from you thus far has been purely conjecture or assumptions or just "not feeling right" about the wordings on a single post. A racist, from my perspective, is not something I would ever feel comfortable calling someone off of this lack of evidence.
I understand it is hard to separate preconceived notions from your mind when reading through the words of others, but I really do miss when you were more open to the words of others. If I could ask one thing of you, it'd be to please try to read Briar's post again but from the perspective of seeing it how it was meant to be: a witch who has been on the butt end of Prim's harassment for going on three years now. She is tired of the wild accusations and constantly having to defend herself, and even when she supplied her proof a couple years ago, no one wanted to hear her. She has, largely, given up on being heard, and now screams into what feels like a void when attacked.
Proof of Prim stirring the pot that I offered: An example of Prim actively seeking out the community and trying to stir the pot with an already dealt with situation that had passed over a year ago.
A direct source that I offered as further proof of what has occurred already: This is one from the account mentioned before who was directly involved with the previous discord server where the Trio incident took place a couple years back.
[A Reply.] I think, to be fair, I saw your comments on her previous posts through your main, and with how much aggression you packed into those messages, I don't necessarily blame her for deciding not to engage with your private messages. As I've said, she's very used to people attacking her like that, and in her mind, unfortunately, you've probably been added to the list of aggressive people ready to fling the blame at her rather than look at the situation as a whole. I do apologize for the way her post may have made you feel, but I think it's also important to remember the potentially aggressive things you left on her page (I'm not saying you meant to come off that way, but even I couldn't help but read that way). Also, regarding the ask, it's no small secret that the occultists of the tradcraft group are skilled and well-versed in hexes and curses. When reading her posts about how she may respond to further antagonism on Prim's part, I see a fully realized occultist wielding their most well kept and trained weapon: baneful magic. I'm sure Prim herself also understands that the "threat on her life" she's saying she's so afraid of, isn't a physical threat, but a metaphysical one. She has repeatedly and continually tried to drag these people through the mud, and now that they're refusing to just sit back and be canceled, she's afraid. She knows how strong their magic is, and they aren't shy about it 🤷‍♀️
[A Reply.] No, I completely understand where you're coming from. I, personally, have seen your willingness to talk things through, despite how aggressive you can come off at times in the things you say, so I think that's why I was genuinely so surprised to see your comments on some of her posts. But I do think her response and refusal to further directly engage with you is warranted and her right. Unfortunately, it is hard to tell who is genuinely open to talking and who is just trying to bait and add to the problem. And with how aggressive your comments were, 8 honestly think she most likely was responding from a place of "oh look another young Prim follower here to bait and berate me." I don't think she looks down on you for your age, but her views are likely a reflection of the fact that a lot of 18yos follow Prim and have openly harassed her without even asking for her input on the matter.
At this point, I would like to talk about the second half of the title of this particular post. Grooming. This is a very serious allegation against Prim that I have not spoken on previously because I had no proof that it was happening. With this person's permission, I would like to share how exactly they wound up fighting Prim's battles for her.
I will note: I am highly disgusted by what follows.
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[A Reply.] Oh no! You cannot fault yourself for this! Prim is a known manipulator, and the fact that she was able to make you somehow think this is part of your being "gullible and naive" is just testament to the fact that she's gotten wayyy too good at what she does. This is in no way your fault or because of some fault within you. Practiced manipulators are cunning and dangerous even to the best of us. It was unfortunate that she chose you, but her twisting you around is in no way a bad reflection on you as a person!
I've chosen to include my reply to this person rather than our continued discussion because of how personal and involved our conversation turned. I've included it to show, as well, that grooming others to fight your battles is (though this should go without saying) NEVER OKAY. Prim has shown her true colors, in my opinion, and while I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt time and time again, I simply cannot permit myself to ignore the harm and damage she's inflicted on not only the tradcraft community, but also this innocent group of friends. A group who that has hitherto dedicated their time to sussing out predators, terfs, nazis, and racists. A group that should never have had to deal with being gaslit and manipulated by a well-known and respected blogger on this platform.
I cannot reiterate enough how sorry and deeply shocked I am at the information this person has brought to my attention. I am still stunned by Prim's activities and unable to fathom how many other potential individuals are out there being groomed to support and fight for her cause. I am sorry to the Witchblr community as a whole. I feel as if I have sat by and watched as Witchblr has been manipulated and am therefore complacent in the damage and needless hurt that has been allowed to spread throughout our community. I am just so very, very sorry.
I will be taking a couple days off of Tumblr because of this, as I feel as if I need space and time to think, but my inbox is always open and I am always available to speak with others on my return.
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angleofmusings · 1 year ago
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one of the most truly awful things in the world is how zionism uses jewish trauma to justify the wholesale destruction of palestine. israel is a nation state, it is not your bube who survived the shoah and it does not represent her. the way so many zionists believe that israel saved the jewish ppl and that it's military actions represent jewish people defending themselves to make up for all the times they were unable to do so in the past. how do you argue against someone when their idea of israel is so rooted in their family trauma? how do you tell them that the situation is israel is nothing like the situation in europe? that their personal fears and attachments do not constitute the political and material reality? how do you possibly tell them that the holocaust isn't relevant in this situation? it really makes me sad
#i'm so tired of the centring of jewish identity in discussions over a nation state #this isnt nazi germany. israel is not a powerless jewish person. it is a nuclear superpower #but how do you say that without being invalidating? #like yes your trauma is serious. yes it was one of the worst atrocities in history. but this isn't about that #<- like that just sounds horrible and antisemitic ??? how do you fix this??
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#ppl like the screenshotted op are so fucking infuriating #they act like jewish people are either Literally Evil Inherently Fascists (bc they live in Israel and the state has committed atrocities and #as one knows anything the state does is always 1000% backed up by literally every single member of its populace) #or poor widdle babies who are too stupid too traumatised to understand how the world really works (every jew not in israel) #and its like. u know jewish ppl are like. discussing this. right. like its not like jewish ppl dont know. they know. they have been #discussing it and coming up with possible alternatives to everything and making NGOs to try to protect both jews and non jews this entire #time. its just so infantilizing. they act like no jewish person has ever opened a book or consulted generational knowledge or anything. #and that these poor widdle ignorant ppl who are too traumatised to think clearly need the Intelligent Kindhearted Gentile to sit them down #and explain why the state of israel must be completely dismantled bc its done no good and look its fine anti-semitism doesnt exist anymore! #these ppl are textbook white saviours and know of the concept but refuse to even consider that #white saviour - expanded use. im talking about "white saviour" how it means in context of the north/west dominance #like you dont need to be white to be a white saviour
saw a post that gave me an eye twitch so i’m gonna break it down and analyze it bc i feel like it exemplifies a lot of what’s wrong with gentile discourse on i/p rn.
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1. yeah, it is awful that zionist institutions and leadership use jewish trauma to justify why diaspora jews should unquestioningly support the current state of israel, regardless of the atrocities it commits against palestinians.
2. "israel is not your bube who survived the shoah" i don't know how to explain to you how fucking callous this sentence is.
3. for better or worse, israel did save jewish people. nearly a million jews from the swana region and 24,000 from ethiopia fled there after experiencing extreme violence and discrimination. you really think america or europe would have taken in a million black and brown jews? have you seen the current state of immigration?
4. "how do you argue with someone when their idea of israel is so rooted in their family trauma?" you don't. you validate their fears, make them feel heard, and then you offer them alternatives. the vast majority of diaspora support for israel is based in fear of persecution and eradication. if you offer real, legitimate solutions for the safety of diaspora jews, i guarantee you will be a thousand times more successful than just screaming at them and telling them "who fucking cares about your holocaust survivor bubbe????"
5. "how do you possibly tell them that the holocaust isn't relevant?" you don't, because it is. nearly 500,000 holocaust survivors moved to or were sent to israel after the shoah. some did not have a choice of where they were sent, some tried to go back to where they were living before but had no money and gentiles had taken their houses and belongings so they had nowhere to go, many faced violence upon trying to return to their hometowns in the form of pogroms, several countries turned them away. you cannot say the holocaust is not relevant to the current israeli population because gentiles in the diaspora are the reason they're there.
6. "i'm so tired of centering jewish identity in discussions over a nation state." are you stupid? genuinely, are you stupid? do you really not see how jewish identity and the history of the jewish people factor into a state with a fucking star of david on the flag that was founded after a genocide of 6 million jews that the rest of the world didn't want to deal with? seriously? no, jews in the diaspora are not responsible for the actions of the israeli government. we aren't more loyal to israel than we are to wherever we're living. but to say that israel has nothing to do with the jewish people is frankly laughable.
7. "how do you say that without sounding invalidating? like that just sounds horrible and antisemitic." that's because it is. you are being horrible and antisemitic.
edited to add: NUCLEAR SUPERPOWER?????????????????????????????? HELLO??????????????????????????
so please for the love of fuck educate yourself on the history of the jewish people and the history of the state of israel before making stupid ass posts like this. israel didn't manifest out of nowhere, it didn't come from "jewish supremacy" it came from hundreds of thousands of jews who were at their wit's fucking end with antisemitism in the diaspora, and from britain's colonization and imperialism paired with it's complete and total disregard for anyone who wasn't racially and culturally white. the monster that is modern day political zionism is a creation of the world's own making. people have been posting a lot about hamas being a response to 70+ years of israeli occupation, violence, and apartheid, but don't seem to understand that israel is a response to 3000+ years of persecution, expulsion, and genocide. the massacres and terror committed by hamas don't take into account the wellbeing of palestinians, and the oppression and violence perpetuated by the israeli government don't take into account the wellbeing of jews in israel or in the diaspora.
nothing will change if gentiles in the diaspora do not take responsibility for the rest of the world's role in the creation of israel. research your country, learn about how they treated their jews (not just during the holocaust but from the moment there were jews in your country), talk to your local jewish population, ask how you and organizations you are part of can help keep the diaspora safe for jews. because as an american jew, i don't want to move to israel. the government is borderline fascist, non ashki non orthodox jews are often seen as second class citizens, i don't speak the language, and my life is here. a lot of diaspora jews feel this way. but every time i see another group of nazis at a rally or get another bomb threat at my synagogue and look to see which country would be safest to move to as a trans person and as a jew, the only answer is israel, which is exactly what zionist institutions and leadership are counting on. if you want that to change, you and your community have to change it.
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Don't have to justify a genocide, never meant to because 1 it ain't happening, 2 never tried to justify a genocide to begin with, nice goal shift btw. 3 a genocide ain't happening.
I'm not a white supremacist. Now I'm gonna let you in on a secret, actual white supremacists don't deny it. They think they are correct in their views so they flaunt it. The fact you think calling anyone white supremacist anymore shows how out of touch you are. No one cares unless the person actually acts like that. And given that I'm supporting ethnic jews...... kinda negates the whole white supremacist/nazi thing.
Antifa are a group of double thinkers, Anarchy and communism cannot exist at the same time in one society. You don't know my trauma, and simply put you don't want to know. You think you're making me look bad but no, you aint. Antifa has already been outted as the terrorist group they are, you can scream "NOT A GROUP WAAAAA!" all you like. You have uniforms, tactics, weapons, logos. You are a paramilitary group, sit and spin on it.
No, I'm right wing to you because I don't agree with everything you say off the bat. and that's the end all be all of the situation. Ok, first time I've heard anyone call NYP right wing, usually it's called left wing. But hey, you do you.
Ok, you're ideology is doomed to failure, Communism has been tried and resulted in the death of millions of people in half a century alone. By any metric is 10 times worse than nazi's and I can bring the math to prove that one. Israel isn't a white supremacist nation. There was no apartheid. There is no Genocide. You just hate Jews because you love Muslims and think they wont put you on the wall or chuck you off a building. The real reality is that they would value me more. Because I stand up for what I believe in, simply put they'd try to convince me to join up with them before they messed with you. I wouldn't join Hamas and I'd kill as many of the terrorist pricks as I could before I went down, but that's a different discussion. Your goddess is also a false deity. There's you some facts to grapple with.
I bet your mom buys you mega blocks instead of legos you bitchass loser
At least I have mega block and not racist lmao. Can u build a throne to sit on with ur tiny ass Lego blocks? Thought not 😂
Srsly these zionist throwing playground insults is hilarious. Aww did the little white supremacist baby want a bottle? Maybe a lullaby 🥺🥺🥺
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Look ma it's me!
For real though, I didn't bring this up at the time but I'll bring it up now, fuck it. The dude was also basically like "omg you didn't talk about Palestine you must be a shit person and a Nazi, I'm so much better than you because I retweeted 'free Palestine' that one time!"
So here's why I didn't talk about the situation under this username*, why I continue to not talk about it under this username, and why frankly never want to talk about it under this username: because I already have one freakshow of a stalker picking through my posts looking for anything he can to take out of context and whip up a shitstorm of harassment to send my way. I don't live on social media, but I'm not fucking blind. I'm well aware that many actual Nazis were piggybacking off of this entire situation to recruit, find targets, and justify hate crimes and harassment of Jewish folk. I'm also aware of just how easy it was to whip up a hate mob of (sometimes) well-intentioned people in the immediate aftermath just by pointing your finger and calling someone a Zionist (regardless of their race, religion, background, or any actually expressed opinions on Israel or Palestine). I am aware that if I had said anything at all, even if it was extremely pro-Palestine, it would have been trivially easy for my freak ass stalker to cut it up and take it out of context, point to my ties to the Jewish community, call me a Zionist, and sit back and watch the harassment flood in.
I've already gotten death threats and pro-genocide "jokes" over my opinions about a video game girlie. Reminder that he's stalking me because I don't agree with him about a fucking video game and I think he shouldn't harass people if they disagree with him. The Israel-Palestine conflict is something a lot more people care about, it has a lot more real life stakes and consequences, and there was a lot of extremely violent sentiment going around at the time. I am 100% certain that if I had actually said anything then this stupid fandom "beef" would have been taken well past beyond too far by these people, potentially gotten in front of the eyes of the kinds of people who will try to find me IRL to take their violence and hatred offline, and it could have put my actual safety at risk.
And I know that might sound paranoid, but I got a few rather suspicious anons around that time trying to bait me into saying stuff about the ongoing conflict, specifically asks that seemed to be trying to bait me into saying stuff they could use to call me a Zionist (such as trying to get me to imply that anyone who criticizes Israel is antisemitic). After the guy had literally been trawling through my blog (and other folks' blogs!) and posting screenshots of the things I or my anons said onto his fuckin' Twitter trying to drum up harassment, and knowing I've been getting shitty harassing anons to my inbox either from him or people who follow him for months, I was not taking any chances with something this serious.
So yeah, what a fucking trip to choose not to talk about the topic because I know it could be hazardous to my safety if my freak stalker decided to try and use it to harass me, only to have the very people who made me worried that talking about it could put my life in danger call me a Nazi and a fake Jew for not talking about it to their ~standards~ as uninvolved randos on social media.
*FYI this isn't the only social media handle I use. I talked about it plenty under those names at the time, but I wasn't going to bring it up in that situation because it wasn't going to be productive. It was just going to become a game of "who can virtue signal about the recent current event harder" or that weirdo would have just called me a liar or demanded I doxx myself to "prove it". And yeah I didn't mention it before now because advertising that you did something and begging people to see you as a good person because you talked about current events on social media is fucking cringe.
Wait, R*xykins and his group called Jews N*zis?!
Being more specific, someone from their discord accused a Jewish person, TheEeveeTamer, of using Nazi rhetoric... when she told them that tweeting about certain irl events doesn't excuse repeating the rhetoric that caused those irl events to happen.
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It's... about as bad as you'd think it'd be, if not worse
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antiterf · 6 years ago
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You say with truth and all due respect but I just saw you completely shit on my friend on this same post.
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You sound like a Disney villain. Will your constant transphobic campaign really get us anywhere of how trans people are cared for in the medical world? No, it won't. This is a problem to be fixed with society if you're correct, not something to hit people with.
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This isn't a serious concern, this is an argument that you can barely withhold being an ass towards me in like you're doing with everyone else. If this were a serious concern you'd tried to advocate for medical agencies to treat transitioning trans people better instead of calling random individuals on the internet lab rats. And if that's biting your head off then I don't know how you'd see me while angry woo.
And you know what I can't time travel otherwise I'd go to the future where maybe I wouldn't be sitting in a time of neo nazis or where medical care I need has unknown effects. If the time line I was put in gives me that situation then so be it. No one has been recorded before me so if the dystopian set up my life story was set in, is here, then I just need to play it out.
I don't want to be that guy but do you have sources on the much higher chance of cancer?
I care more about my personal health more than winning a debate with you. If I'm monitored and kept safe when this is a personal life choice and for my wellbeing then I'm okay. If they get more information from it then that's an added bonus.
So you tell me that in medication they know the long term effects and that's why you call no one else lab rats but then try to tell me that they didn't know the long term effects of these drugs, gave them to the public, and are finding them now. But no one on any medication outside of this are lab rats go you.
Thank you for telling me, I was never considered to be put on puberty blockers my little sister was because puberty might have been coming in too fast. And thank you for insulting the victims of the drug by calling them fall out ghouls. You brought something in that has nothing to do with the argument at hand, shit on a bunch of victims, and carried on.
Yeah but to prove that I personally included that factor and don't see it as something to stop me I had to being up my sex life.
If you look at the responses of this post there are plenty mentions of trans men who have been on it a lot longer with none of the side effects you gave. If all you have to give is "what if" then that's not an argument, that's simply a bad attempt at fear mongering.
TERFs: Going on testosterone will PERMANENTLY MUTILATE your body!
Me, after about 3 months on T: I am quite a fan and according to my blood tests so is the rest of my body.
TERFs: Stop! Before it’s too late!
Me: *looks at few chin hairs and a slight mustache while messing with my voice* huh?
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