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hi-hey-haechan · 4 years ago

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I woke up to discover that this post was not showing up in the tags. I’M SO MAD. I HATE WHEN THIS HAPPENS.

The ask was roughly along the lines of “Can we just shortly imagine how hot it would be to have Haechan finger you? His fingers are so long, but he’s also such a tease. Please, I need an imagine for that.”

Fun fact: The small plot behind this story actually came from a video I saw. It was JSMR, but the camera was only focused on his hands. Also, thanks to that video and this headcanon, I now kind of sort of maybe have a small thing for hands...

“May I take your coat?” Donghyuck asked to the orange he was peeling.

You heard that statement without the visual for context. In turn, you looked up, confused. Sitting across from your boyfriend at the kitchen table, wearing your (his) hoodie, you furrowed your eyebrows. The hoodie barely counted as a coat...

Your eyes widened at the sudden realization. He was talking to the freaking orange, the “coat” being a reference to its peel, which he was removing.

“You’re a really weird person, but this is among one of the stranger things you’ve done,” you laughed.

Now it was Donghyuck’s turn to look confused. His head snapped upward, causing his hair, which was growing longer everyday (much to your delight) to bounce at the sudden disturbance. “What? Being polite to an orange?” His voiced feigned innocence and shock.

“Is that what you call it?”

“Do you not talk to your citruses as you’re peeling them?” Both of you were probably sharing bewildered expressions. However, you could see through the act Donghyuck was putting up by the way the corners of his mouth quirked upward, trying to tug his lips into a smile. It was cute, you decided -- his weirdness, his adorable tendencies, all of it.

“Does the politeness make them taste better?” you grinned, playing along.

“Of course! Now, you’re getting it!”

You rolled your eyes while an affectionate smile remained on your face. The two of you returned to silence, and your eyes flickered to the orange.

His long fingers gently removed the peel. They were the same fingers that were delicate as they touched your skin, both lovingly and tenderly, as though you were fragile. At the same time, his digits could create a harsh, rapid dance across the keyboard on his laptop, aggressively playing video games with his friends. Donghyuck’s hands weren’t particularly veiny, but the bones in his hands visibly branched out to the fingers. You found yourself looking at them often, even when you hadn’t intended to. Donghyuck would never let you hear the end of it if his hands and fingers, of all things, could catch your attention. His slender fingers, which were much longer than yours, possessed their own grace as they moved.

Once the coat peel had been removed, he slowly began to separate the individual slices of orange. You watched this closely, too, observing how his fingers bent and hands flexed as he followed through with such a simple action. In addition to this, you were trying to convince yourself that the act of observing his hands was just your ability to admire the beauty of simple actions.

Yet you couldn’t ignore one of the greatest things his hands could do, besides perhaps hold your own. You looked at his long, slender, fingers and thought about how well they could coax orgasm after orgasm out of you. They could reach deep inside of you, further than your own fingers could ever reach, and curled at the spot that had you arching your back and crying out his name. His thumb could rub harshly at your sensitive clit simultaneously. At this point, you’d be nothing but putty, telling him to keep curling his fingers right there, right fucking there, until you hurtled to your next high, practically in tears from the pleasure.

You mentally swore when the ache that had awoken in your core pulled you back to reality. Watching him peel a freaking orange had somehow turned you on, which baffled you. The power he managed to hold over you was still shocking.

His hand lifted to bring the orange slice to his mouth. His eyes raised, too, meeting yours. However, before you tore your gaze away, you knew he’d caught your stare lingering on his hands. “Can I help you?” Donghyuck inquired, and you swore you could catch a teasing lilt to his words. He finally ate the fraction of the fruit.

“I was just wondering if it actually tastes better, as you said.”

“Of course it does. Then again, it’s admittedly a placebo, but we can ignore that.” He grabbed an orange off the plate and handed it to you.

Your eyes dropped to the slice, but you focused on his digits, possessing their own type of beauty, which was somehow enough to make your core gush with arousal, though you’d never admit it.

A few seconds too late to not seem suspicious, you, too, ate the orange slice, which tasted exactly the same as any other orange, as expected.

When you looked back at Donghyuck, he lifted the pad of his thumb to meet his lips, a movement your eyes shamelessly followed, not expecting him to be watching the entire time. Only when you saw his lips curl into a smirk did you finally meet his eyes.

“Damn, it only took an orange for me to expose your hand kink.” Yep, he was definitely teasing you this time. Your mouth kind of fell open as you tried to come up with an answer, amidst the feeling of your face burning, core aching, and mind blanking. “Next time when I’m on tour, and you miss me, I’ll make sure I send you a video of me doing some hand exercises, and that will really get you riled up.”

“Fine,” you huffed, “you have nice hands. Now put them to good use.”

Before you knew it, you were completely naked, lying on the bed, with Donghyuck’s fingers barely brushing up and down the soft, sensitive skin of your stomach. Every time he got to the bottom, you unsuccessfully forced yourself to not shudder under his touch. Goosebumps prickled up and down your skin. For a brief moment, his fingers dipped even lower, pressing against your swollen clit. You let out a small gasp.

“Stop teasing me.” You attempted to make it sound like an order, though your voice came out as a wavering sort of beg.

Your boyfriend dragged his fingers down further, moving once over your slit. Gently, he traced over your folds, circling, but never quite touching where you needed him most. Occasionally, he’d bump a knuckle or finger tip against your clit, which could send sparks of pleasure throughout your entire being. “You’re so wet from just looking at my fingers? I mean, I knew I was attractive, but if just my hands can have this effect on you, then you must be horny around me 24/7 from just looking at me.” He slowly circled your opening, knowing how much you needed him, but he refused to give in.

“Goddamn it, Donghyuck, if you don’t finger me right now, I -- oh,” you were cut off by your own soft moan as a result of him finally giving your neglected clit some attention. He circled the bud at a decent pace, but his touch wasn’t light, either. You were already so sensitive, due to how riled up you were, no doubt.

“You want me to finger you?” he asked in a condescending tone, “you mean like this?” His fingertips glided lower, dragging through your wet folds once again. A little whine left your lips, and you bucked your hips helplessly into the light touch. Your core was aching, pounding with heat, and you needed relief, which Donghyuck seemed to refuse to give to you. He dipped a finger in, slightly, just enough for one segment of his finger to really be inside of you.

A frustrated groan left your lips, and you were a bit shocked to hear how close it was to a sob. “Please,” you finally begged, knowing the pleas were what he wanted to hear the most. You were far past caring at this point, the tight string in the bottom of your stomach needing serious relief.

When two of his fingers immediately entered without so much as a warning, your hands balled up the sheets as you cried out in pleasure. He took his sweet time, carefully scissoring you open. His fingers slowly dragged out of you before plunging back in, earning a quiet, involuntary moan from your lips. You could hear how wet you were, with his fingers squelching at just the slightest motion. At least you were too far past the point of caring.

With two of his fingers fully sheathed inside of you, Donghyuck’s fingers bent at the knuckles, curling them against the spot that made you see stars. Your back arched up off the bed, and you legitimately whined, no longer able to control the sounds that came out of your mouth.

Would he tease you about how much you liked his hands, in the future? Yes. But at the same time, you could say something about how he was getting off to using this to his advantage. You looked him, who was sitting between your legs, which were draped over his. Donghyuck’s body was facing you, and his fingers were pumping in and out of you at an unrushed pace. Your stare soon dropped to the obvious bulge in his jeans. If his free hand wasn’t braced against your thigh, he’d be palming himself through his pants, clearly turned on by the sounds that spilled past your lips and the actual situation itself, which was indeed quite erotic.

You felt every inch of his long fingers drag against your tight and slick walls. As your stomach knotted up at every curl of his fingers, you grinded yourself down further, needing more and more still. You fell into a bit of a rhythm, fucking yourself onto his fingers.

When your eyes moved up to Donghyuck’s face, the smirk he gave you told you that he knew exactly what he was doing to you. Every small force back onto his hand, every whine when he hit exactly where you needed him to -- every single thing you did, he saw, and clearly understood. So when he pummeled his fingers rapidly in and out of you, quickly changing the pace, the pleasure written across your features told him everything you were feeling.

At the change of pace, you cried out, completely shocked at the new pace and feeling. The heat that clenched at the bottom of your stomach became more intense, and you felt your walls helplessly spasm around him. “I’m so close, shit,” you managed to say.

And in the next instant, his fingers were completely gone. Your walls pounded around nothing, the emptiness of your core and roaring of your lust causing you to almost shout in frustration.

“Donghyuck, what the hell?” you asked him, feeling your orgasm fade away. “I was so close.”

“Sounds like a you problem. If you want my fingers so bad, then just say so.”

“I swear, you little shit, if you don’t--”

“Oh, are you threatening me, now?” he asked, his voice mockingly offended. “It’s your loss, not mine. I’m not the one who wants to cum on my oh-so-beautiful fingers, and clearly, neither are you.”

You sighed, easily defeated. “Please make me--” to cut off your sentence, he inserted three fingers, pushing deeply until he reached the hilt of his digits. Three was a stretch, despite the fact that you were so wet to the point that your juices were dripping down Donghyuck’s hand.

A swear was ripped from you, and your head was thrown back into the pillow, eyes shut in pure ecstasy. His fingers were curling like crazy, opening you up and making you see stars, At the same time, his thumb ran harsh circles on your clit, constantly causing your legs to shake.

“Make you what?” he inquired innocently, as though his fingers weren’t exactly playing the part.

“Make me cum, please, I’m so close, please,” you begged, attitude gone with your composure.

And his fingers thrusted faster, the room full of the sounds of your wetness and the varying sounds of your cries and pleas. The knot in your stomach curled and uncurled, heat pooling in that same area. Your legs quaked, toes curled, and walls wildly clenched and collapsed as you came around his long and slender digits, crying out his name, which you knew, in the end, was exactly what he wanted. He worked you gently through your high, making it last, but not overstimulating you. You’d cum hard enough once, and he wasn’t going to force you to do it again.

“Now, my beautiful hands, were they everything you were dreaming about?” His condescending grin was back. He wasn’t even wrong, either, for his fingers literally gave you one of the best orgasms of your life.

“I hate you, you know that? And clearly, making me fall apart had an effect on you, too,” you said. You forced yourself into a sitting position, leaning forward and resting a heavy hand on his painfully hard, still-clothed cock. When a whine passed Donghyuck’s lips, it was your turn to smirk. He wasn’t the only one who could tease like that.

#nct dream smut #nct smut #haechan smut #00 line smut #nct imagines #nct scenarios #haechan #nct dream imagines

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helenarasmussen87 · 4 years ago

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Writing Asks

This the post where I know no one is going to ask me anyway.

1. Describe your comfort zone—a typical you-fic.

Something that is like a “Oh hey, what happens if we do THIS!” and go from there. Usually ends up having loads of emotions, comfort, angst, introspection, loads of kitchen sink dialogues, not too much action. Families, happy endings.

2. Is there a trope you’ve yet to try your hand at, but really want to?

Fluffy stuff and humourous stuff. I am a little too serious for either one and my humour is drier than the desert and very odd. So no.

3. Is there a trope you wouldn’t touch with a ten foot pole?

Teacher and Student relationships. Necrophilia, abuse of all sorts, underage. Just not my thing. I’ve gotten unable to stomach a lot of grimdark and super dark stuff as I get older so I won’t write it. But go ahead if that’s your thing.

4. How many fic ideas are you nurturing right now? Care to share one of them?

Two, since I can’t have more than two on the burner. Learned THAT early on and they’re Terror AU’s One is a fixit, but with health complications and angst. The other is a Modern Day AU which has two professors falling in love after one gets injured and the other worked as an EMT and helps to take care of him and they fall in love.

5. Share one of your strengths.

I can offer insights on what flows and what doesn’t. I can also happily shred my own drafts if they don’t work.

6. Share one of your weaknesses.

Action. I work at it, but it’s not my favourite. Or war writing.

7. Share a snippet from one of your favorite pieces of prose you’ve written and explain why you’re proud of it.

“Danny had to turn his head away to hide his smile, because he knew that it was a legitimate concern for Jose. Most of the time, he had jumped into bed with his partners first and then did the mating dance.

Although extremely smart in other aspects, dating and social interactions were always a bit skewed, because he was always second-guessing himself and nervous as hell.

“That’s actually how things work out in these situations. At least it did for me and my ex and for me and Claude.” Danny explained calmly, making Jose nod and take another pull of his slurpee.

“So what do I do? Like is there a time when I bring up the possibility of us sleeping together?” Jose asked, the words slightly mumbled as he chewed on the straw.

“You don’t bring it up. You’ll just know when the time is right for it to happen. Sex isn’t what a relationship should be built on. Yes, it’s nice and it’s part of it, but it’s not the end all to be all. Trust me on this. It will happen if it’s meant to happen.” Danny explained, hoping that he had put it all in the plainest and simplest terms he could for his friend.

I am proud of this because it was majorly borrowing from life and I can see the difference from earlier writing.

8. Share a snippet from one of your favorite dialogue scenes you’ve written and explain why you’re proud of it.

“Sergio laughed shortly. “I’ve already done enough of that, and look at where it’s gotten you. Yeah, legally I hold claim over you. I could make the club buy out your contract and sit at home all day, having litter after litter.”

Iker’s blood froze at that and he turned to look at Sergio to see if he really meant it, but Sergio’s face gave nothing away.

“Or I could sign your rights to the club and let them sell you wherever or to whomever. Take you out of Spain, or sell you to Getafe or Malaga. All of these things I could do. The club actually did bring it up at that meeting you didn’t show up for.”

Iker blinked, his hands going numb as Sergio’s wickedly honed words hit home.

“I’m not telling you this to hurt you. Or make you feel indebted. I’m telling this to you because you’re this close to losing your spot and that’s the last thing I want for you. But there’s only so much I can do for you.”

He sighed and looked at Iker dead in the eyes.

“I miss him too, Iker. I miss Antonio every fucking day. And I miss you.”

Iker swallowed hard as Sergio abruptly turned and left, slamming the front door and freeing him from the command so suddenly that Iker fell onto the couch and curled up in it.

He had no energy to do anything else. Not when he was all too aware he’d fucked up and fucked up big and needed to fix it.

Borrowed from life again and it was more of a dialogue that needed to be had when you finally realize how much you fucked up and how much you need to stop coasting and make it right.

9. Which fic has been the hardest to write?

ALL OF THEM! Kidding. I want to say the one I’m working on right now. I was lucky enough I got a ton of help fleshing it out. I can see the end of the 1st chapter and I am having a hell of a time writing Goodsir’s chunk. He’s turned out more emo and romantic than I was expecting.

10. Which fic has been the easiest to write?

The QuiObi prompts for the prompt week. Took me like two hours to knock them off and post.

11. Is writing your passion or just a fun hobby?

Its a passion and a hobby. It helped me through a lot of rough patches and keeps me sane.

12. Is there an episode above all others that inspires you just a little bit more?

Mostly music or a change in life. I tend to write when everything is in flux with me.

13. What’s the best writing advice you’ve ever come across?

Just write. Worry about editing later. Once you have something on the paper, fixing it up becomes easier.

14. What’s the worst writing advice you’ve ever come across?

Edit as you write. You don’t get anything done.

15. If you could choose one of your fics to be filmed, which would you choose?

Oooh. I think it’s a toss up between my Qui-Gon/Jango fic in a pastoral setting where they have put their pasts behind and are farmers on Concord Dawn. Or the Werewolf fic I wrote during my RPF phase.

16. If you only could write one pairing for the rest of your life, which pairing would it be?

Bloody hard. I would have to say Fitzier (Commander Fitzjames/Captain Crozier)

17. Do you write your story from start to finish, or do you write the scenes out of order?

Depends. Sometimes I go straight from beginning to end and sometimes I end up writing the middle and not figuring it out until later.

18. Do you use any tools, like worksheets or outlines?

Outlines. I have notebooks I jot down point form notes about the characters and the plot.

18. Stephen King once said that his muse is a man who lives in the basement. Do you have a muse?

Mine is a librarian or an alchemist trying to figure out answers and how things fit in.

19. Describe your perfect writing conditions.

A good playlist. Alone, in my room.

20. How many times do you usually revise your fic/chapter before posting?

I revise it along the way when I sit down to write. Then before I post, I give it a once over to make sure it flows and makes sense.

21. Choose a passage from one of your earlier fics and edit it into your current writing style. (Person sending the ask is free to make suggestions).

All my old fics are honestly gone so I’m skipping this one.

22. If you were to revise one of your older fics from start to finish, which would it be and why?

Honestly? The Duo and Heero one I wrote about them being in an abusive relationship where they split up, then got back together again. I was again writing from life, and I have seen couples who did overcome it, but looking back, I think I should have written it that they separated and went their own ways.

Keep in mind I was very young when I wrote this, and I was in an abusive relationship myself and didn’t realise it at the time. He hit me once, apologised and never did it again. But he did end up manipulating me, gaslighting me, and emotionally abusing me until I finally had enough and left.

23. Have you ever deleted one of your published fics?

Yes. Loads of them due to me not wanting to finish them. Or the hosting sites going under.

24. What do you look for in a beta?

Someone who is honest, someone who knows the way I write, and has suggestions to fix those said things. But someone who is themselves is the best. Because they know what they want. Same here.

25. Do you beta yourself? If so, what kind of beta are you?

I do, simply due to lack of steady betas. Flow and story telling, but I also look for syntax and formatting as well as grammar. I will miss typos, so I run spell-check too. I mostly use a mental rubric. Teacher training.

26. How do you feel about collaborations?

I haven’t had a successful one due to the second person always deciding that they can’t follow through or up and disappearing. So I don’t do them.

27. Share three of your favorite fic writers and why you like them so much.

Oh my God! I read so much and so many different people that I can’t pinpoint three. I usually end up reading a fic or two, so I can’t say why I read the author.

28. If you could write the sequel (or prequel) to any fic out there not written by yourself, which would you choose?

I haven’t done that. I do admit to having inspired by fics. I wouldn’t ever presume to do that. It just feels like a snub.

29. Do you accept prompts?

Not really. I can’t tailor write stuff consistently.

30. Do you take liberties with canon or are you very strict about your fic being canon compliant?

Oh always! I end up liking the characters that somehow never make it until the end. And in the Terror, unless you want to write angst all the time, you HAVE to ignore canon. And I mean BOTH the book and the show, since the book is nasty. The show is amazing, but oh my god is it depressing.

31. How do you feel about smut?

Yes damned please!

32. How do you feel about crack?

Depends on how well it’s done. Sometimes it is needed. Sometimes it’s like “Why?”

33. What are your thoughts on non-con and dub-con?

A bit tricky. I don’t mind non-con, but it has to be handled well. Dub-con, especially in A/B/O happens within context and it is usually dealt with. So I can tolerate that more than the first. Outright abuse, no.

34. Would you ever kill off a canon character?

Yes. Not often thought. But yes. I usually try and keep as many alive as I can though.

35. Which is your favorite site to post fic?

AO3, its a wild place and I love it for that reason.

36. Talk about your current wips.

It’s an AU where two professors that live in the same building and work in different faculties get thrown together and start to get to know each other. Due to circumstance, one gets injured and the other kind of volunteers to help take care of him, where they fall in love. The others in the vicinity do also. There’s Canadian shenanigans and baking.

37. Talk about a review that made your day.

That they really liked how I wrote Frank Randall and would like to see more with his son, an OC I created for the story.

38. Do you ever get rude reviews and how do you deal with them?

I either delete, or give a generic reply and leave it. I’ve got stuff to do.

40. Write an alternative ending to [insert fic title] (or just the summary of one).

Nope. It just doesn’t work for me.

*somewhere I fucked up on the number but here you are*

Whoever wants to do this.

#about the author #asks #memes

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meanderings0ul · 6 years ago

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Philinda & Timelines

I wrote most of this in a more disorganized form a few months back, but now I’ve fleshed it out and done some more calculations. I hope it might be interesting to fans of these characters or useful for those who write fic for them. I personally like to have some dates and characterization timelines to look at when writing fics set in a “real world” type show, so I generally keep some notes for myself in word docs. Here I just kinda dove into it.

I don’t go into plot timeline details here because I just don’t care. Marvel does an incredibly shit job of taking travel time and medical times into account. They can try and convince me something happened in two weeks, but I’m always going to ignore it. This uses info from the show itself and from an online date calculator. I am mostly not pulling from the various wikis. The wikis are great for trivia, but they are massively self-contradictory due to tie-in comics, stuff said in various interviews, etc. It’s Marvel. [Edited 03/20 to finally include workable theories for Captain Marvel]

Phil Coulson was born July 8, 1964. This makes his sun sign Cancer and his Chinese zodiac year the Dragon. He was an active and outgoing kid who wished he had a brother to play with. His dad died or was killed in 1973. Coulson was only 9 years old. They’d either finished restoring Lola together earlier that year or in 1972. It is implied in season 2 that he and his mother moved after the death, either to a different part of the town or somewhere else entirely as he did not attend the high school his father worked at. Coulson finished high school and went to college to study history, both because that was the subject his dad taught and because he was always a giant history nerd. He worked as a lifeguard as a teenager. We do not know anything about his mother’s work or their relationship when she was alive. A research project into the S.S.R. brought him to Shield’s attention. He was recruited from college by Nick Fury, an agent at the time.

Melinda May was born November 20, 1965 (a reference from the scanned back-page of a tie-in comic I cannot find again - Fury’s Secret Files from somewhere I think). Obviously, they’ve just used Ming’s birthday with a different year to parallel the actors. Her birth location is always listed as classified, so it’s possible her mother was involved with something for the CIA at the time. Her sun sign is Scorpio and her birth year in the Chinese zodiac is the snake. May always picked up new physical activities quickly according to her dad in S3. She started ice-skating at 7 and quickly began skating competitively. At 12 she switched from skating to martial arts. May has a trusting relationship with both her parents. We don’t know anything about when they seemingly separated, decided to live separately for Reasons, or got divorced. There is around a year unaccounted for between when she most likely graduated high school and when she likely joined Shield. She might have joined against her mother’s wishes. We know nothing of how she was recruited.

Star Wars Episode IV came out in May of 1977. Coulson was 12 and May was 10. This is totally relevant information.

These dates mean May is just shy of two years younger than Coulson. More precisely, Coulson is 17 months older.

We know they were at the Academy together (Comms and Ops shared some classes and electives) and graduated at the same time because of 2x4. Comms and Ops would have been in different facilities, though reasonably close together for logistics purposes. There would be a significant amount of overlap for field agent hopefulls. They probably wouldn’t have seen each other every day. They probably usually saw each other multiple times a week, depending on their classes.

They also shared classes with future Agent Blake and Agent Garrett. (It’s important to remember that Agents Hand, Hartley, Sitwell, and Hill are younger in the MCU and did not attend the Academy until the previous four Agents had already left.)

From common practices in American educational law, Coulson very likely started school (kindergarten) in the fall of 1969 (at 5). He would have graduated in 1982 and started college that fall. It is also possible he started school in 1970 (at 6) and graduated in 1983. May likely started school in 1971 at 5 and would have graduated in spring 1984 at 18 or she possibly started school at 1970 at 4 and graduated in 1983 at 17. (At the time, starting kindergarten at 4 years old was common if you would be turning 5 soon. Start ages were lower in the 70s.)

Here’s where a couple different things could have happened.

I’m going to move forward here with the (imo) more likely graduation ages for them both. These aren’t official. These events could have happened a year earlier or a year later, but anything more than that would be very unlikely.

It’s spring 1984. Coulson just finished his sophomore year of college and is about to turn 21. May just graduated high school at 18.

We know the Shield Academies at this point were legitimate in the eyes of the U.S. Government, though mostly under the radar. There was enough of a structured curriculum schedule in place we know they had a yearbook (as of season 5). Taking on recruits under 18 generally requires parental permission, as Shield is still paramilitary.

Option 1 - Coulson’s research has already drawn Shield’s attention and he is approached by Fury. Someone recruits May or she becomes aware of Shield some other way. They start at the Shield academies fall of 1984. They are 21 and 18 when they join.

Option 2 - Coulson continues through his junior year of college. His research into the S.S.R. draws Shield’s attention. Fury goes to recruit him. May spends a year doing any number of things. Her mother might want her to pursue the CIA. May picks Shield. They start at the Shield academies fall of 1985. They are 22 and 19 when they join.

Option 3 - Coulson is about to finish college when he draws the attention of Shield and is recruited by Fury. May is an unknown for two years. They start at the Shield academies fall of 1986. They are 23 and 20 when they join.

Star Trek IV (the whale movie) came out in November of 1986. Coulson was 23 and May was just 21. This is also totally relevant information.

Let’s say MCU Shield’s training program lasted 3-4 years. (Fitzsimmons strongly implied in season 1 Seeds that Scitech usually took about four years.)

The absolute earliest (3 years) May and Coulson (and Garrett) should have been in the field was 1987/1988/1989. Their most likely brand-new Level 1 Agent year was 1988/1989/1990.

Coulson and May were most likely Level 1 agents at 23 and 21/24 and 22/25 and 23.

The Sausalito mission mentioned in episode 2x4 probably happened later in 1988/1989/1990.

John Garrett, who they were trained with, was injured in Sarajevo and became a Project Deathlok subject in 1990. He probably was only Level 2. He’d only been an agent 2-3 years maximum.

We knew from season 1 that Coulson’s mom Julie was long gone. The wiki puts her death as September 22, 1992, exactly 19 years after her husband’s death. Coulson was only 28.

This is where I take issue with one of the semi-official dates. Big issue.

We got a flashback to a younger Agent Coulson and Agent May in season 4. May was a Level 3 specialist and Coulson was recently Level 4. We know they knew each other pretty well at that point, enjoyed each other’s company, and also frequently went weeks or months without seeing each other. They worked on missions separately and together and kept track of each other through company gossip. It’s at this point in their lives that a little, badly-kept-secret, mutual crush is going on that is ultimately not pursued for multiple reasons. They stay close friends and work partners for the next 10-15 ish years.

Parts of the wiki claims this flashback was to 2003. However, this is basically a retcon and in my oh so professional and classy-sounding opinion is just dumber than fuck. (Also, that date was never used in the episode.)

The absolute latest Coulson and May started as field agents was 1990. So *13 years* later they’re still Level 3? I don’t think so. Level 1 is your entry level. Anyone who is performing well is only going to stay there 1-3 years max. Level 2 is your no longer a noob level. If you’re doing great work let’s say people stay there 2-5 years. Agents would stay longer in Levels 3/4/5 than Levels 1 and 2.

Let’s be generous and give them 5 years at Levels 1 and 2. It could have easily been 4, maybe even 3 depending on how fast they got their groove after the whole “in the bay for five hours” thing. Coulson and May logically made it to Level 3 anywhere around 1993/1994/1995.

The Captain Marvel movie makes dubious use of existing aos canon, but if we use the perspective that Phil is a brand new Level 3 field agent instead of one fresh out of the Academy (which is completely incompatible with aos’s timeline) than we can say Phil and May were new level 3 agents sometime early in 1995.

A sensible placement for the Russian 0-8-4 mission would be anywhere from late 1995-1997. With Phil having recently made Level 4 (strongly implied the the flashback), I would suggest 1996 or 1997 as the most likely placement.

From the tie-in comics, MCU Agent Barton is recruited by Nick Fury around this same time, Agent Romanoff “recruited’ by him a few years later.

By 2003, both Coulson and May should have advanced a Level again and be taking on more complex missions. Strike Team Delta is part of Shield now. Fury is Director.

The Bahrain mission happened in 2008. Coulson was likely a Level 6 operative and May would be Level 5. Coulson took a lot of orders from a lot of people in episode 2x17. I highly doubt he was Level 7 at that point. The agent in charge of the operation, Agent Hart, was one of the ones Katya took over. Big Shield headquarters forbade Coulson from sending May into the building. He gave her the clear to go anyway and covered for her. May was 42. Coulson was 43 or 44.

May worked on administration for mostly Level 3s in the basement of the Triskelion for the next 4.5 years. This does not mean she became a lower ranking agent; you would likely want a higher-than-3 managing your level 3s.

Coulson is sent to make contact with Tony Stark later in 2008. At some point he advances to Level 7 then 8. Given Shield viewed the Bahrain rescue as a legendary success, not knowing how it unfolded, it is reasonable to think Coulson was promoted to 7 shortly afterwards.

Coulson died on the Helicarrier on May 4th, 2012 during The Incident. He was 47. May was 46 when she found out he was dead.

When we met them in season 1, Coulson was recently 49 (technically…) and May was 47. May is a Level 7 agent and Coulson remains Level 8.

After season 5 they are on a beach in Tahiti. Coulson is 54 and May is 52. They’ve known each other 34/33/32 years.

Now, I’ve tried to structure this whole thing in a way that should you want to change their school-dates and use any of the three options you should be able to go through and add/subtract from the existing numbers pretty easily. So I hope that’s useful if you’ve been trying to math and write fic or if there’s just been general confusion.

I greatly prefer to write from the Option 2 set, with adjustments made for Captain Marvel. That just makes the most sense to me as far as events we know about from season one and the other life events for these characters. So if you’ve read any of my stuff, this is generally where I’m coming from.

I really hope this was useful and interesting. I spent far too much time on it.

#agents of shield #aos meta #philinda #phil coulson #melinda may #john garrett #loooong damn meta #omfg #why did i do this to myself #nevermind #i know why #and i will never admit how much of this i was able to write from memory #though I've double checked everything since #and #only a year later than planned #i've finally updated it for captain marvel tie in info lol #pinned now because i think this'll stay relevant for s7

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lotrewrite · 7 years ago

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LOT Chat Recap

So the chat went very well! I have grouped the subjects into thematic categories for everyone's ease.

A few up-front things for everyone:

Scheduling

Everyone will have two more weeks to revise their drafts or send in comments. Writers, please send me the edits you want me to make to your episode outline, which will be posted to the outline doc; you can also start drafting your final episode. If writers have any further questions about your episode, send in submissions or asks and they can be discussed by the group on this page; I am also always available to talk by messenger. Readers, please send in your comments and questions on episodes. I will be posting "let's talk about these three episodes" posts every day for the next week so that people can submit specific comments about those episodes if they have any additional comments to make.

We will have another chat on Saturday June 24 at 1PM EST (unless people prefer a different time)

Fully written episodes will then be due on Friday, July 28. We will then have two weeks of editing and proof-reading, with the goal of posting the complete season to Ao3 by August 15.

Format

As people are welcome to start drafting their episodes ASAP, we need to decide on format. I will post a separate post in regards to this question with a poll.

Recap

Queen B

We're using the "Queen of Bialya with mind control powers" version, with an amulet instead of "pheromones" because it corresponds with Amaya's symbolism-wise; Queen B is from 2016

Motive: she's sensitive about the fact that she's illegitimately in power, which is why she isn't in Bialya

Legends could use in the Roman Republic episode where she's pretending to be a Queen; that’s why she has a feud with Mari, who has been helping undermine her power base by helping prove that she's not legit; she wants the spear so she's legitimately the queen of Bialya, which is why she joins the Legion (also because messing with Amaya will interfere with Mari)

Femme fatale style villain, which would make the scene in episode 16 where instead of seducing/convincing/mind controlling the guard, she just punches him, SO MUCH FUNNIER (like she saunters up, you think she's gonna use her powers, she smiles all seductive - and WHAM)

We need to pump up her role in the various episodes - she can take Merlyn's place as the "person who snarks with Darkh"

Amaya

Needs more development of her plot where she’s thinking about her future and trying to think of whether she should change it or not

Episode 10: Amaya and Queen B fight - Queen B hints at things, building up Amaya’s curiosity

Episode 13: Queen B has more revelations for Amaya, telling actual facts

Amaya is thinking about changing: the destruction of her village and the fact that Mari grows up in the foster care system

That means we can have her start to angst about changing things in the Tudor episode (14) and New York (15); maybe a scene in 14 where she does research about her future secretly and then in 15 more debate about changing it, with the events of 15 inspiring her not to change it

that way we have a 5-part arc for Amaya about it

and her later confrontations with Queen B in 18 and in Doomworld work stronger because of it because Queen B’s taunts don’t work as well any more

Compass

They pick it up in Episode 8 from Constantine in return for helping with the Crusade; Lily gets brought in to use her micro-tech knowledge to amp it up but really because Stein wants her around, but otherwise I think we can limit the references to it to "so Gideon says the compass goes to Y time period" – but it should be referenced consistently after Episode 8

Lily first appears in Episode 7 just like in canon, possible reference to present day Clarissa

Lily first gets picked up in episode 15, and ends up having her fight with Stein about him hiding her aberration status in episode 15 so that 16 starts with them still fighting; she can just be brought in as an "expert" in technology to help calibrate the compass, not because she’s an aberration – Rip can reveal it to her because he’s a Time Master and objects

Relationship with Stein: he’s still a workaholic, tries to over-interfere with her academics, distant but proud of her accomplishments and they bonded over their intelligence, he’s a good mentor figure; she’s pissed off that he didn't tell her about the aberration thing - it makes her feel like he didn't trust her, and she presumably had to fight HARD to get to a position of academic achievement where she felt he respected her instead of humoring her because she's his beloved daughter; a case of "daddy knows best" when it comes to the aberration issues. And she can be like "this is just like when you came to my dissertation defense!" It also explains why she forgives him in episode 16: she's kind of used to him being a bit of an oblivious tactless dumbass

Oculus – Spear

The Oculus' destruction and the scattering of the spear pieces are somehow connected – they were using the spear to power the Oculus; when it exploded, they scattered

as a Time Master, Rip knows where to find them – the piece he finds in the time loop with the 81 people is one of the pieces from the Oculus; the pieces want to get back together and are powered up by one of them being used

they don’t whisper and cannot be used to guide to each other – they don’t work by “wishes” per se, they just allow people to make changes to the timeline (good luck in succeeding in changing history to your will); only the spear together can you “wish” a new world into existence

The spear pieces weren’t “always there” – they were scattered there

Re-work the pilot so that the piece Rip gets is from the Oculus and maybe we can scatter the information that they had been powering the Oculus with the spear into episode 4 (Eo's explanation) and episode 8 (Constantine can do a bit of an info dump, he's a magical character)

Len

Len ends up just hovering in the background in a lot of the episodes and he never seems to get any lines that talk about his bitterness/resentment, so we need to use him more.

He is connected to the Oculus and that's why putting the spear back together = we see him more

Len’s appearance guide:

First few episodes, we have ONLY "visuals" of Len, just momentary glimpses, through episode 5, but nothing more - no comments, just blink-and-he's-gone.

Episode 3 is our first appearance of blink-and-miss-him - thematically appropriate since we're also bringing in Amaya

More blink-and-miss appearance in the next two episodes

We have the "funeral" episode as the turning point between “blink and gone” and “talking” next episode

Then in episode 6 we have our first appear-and-talk Len, the big moment where Mick is taken aback and is surprise (like in canon, where Mick has to give a gruff "You're not real"). But at that point, he's still only showing up briefly.

Len starts showing up more as the episodes go by; episode 6 through 10 we have him saying things TO Mick and Mick trying (and failing) to ignore him

Episode 10 being the episode where he's talking enough with Mick that the others notice

Episode 11 they test Mick for hallucinations, but Len's still there

Episode 12 Len doesn't do much, but the audience finds out he's real

Then from episode 13 to 16, Len should really be written as a full member of the cast just one that no one else can hear but Mick.

In Episode 14 L!Len steals the piece while O!Len is around, which is when O!Len realizes for the first time that Legion!Len is around; we could have a scene with O!Len asking Gideon "WTF was that"

NOTE: once Len is a full cast member, he can have scenes by himself, he doesn't always have to be tied to Mick or to another cast member, but before that, when he's just a hallucination, he shouldn't appear solo

Episode 16, he argues with Mick and leaves to go with the Legion!Len, who he discovers can also see him

Episode 17 is the episode where he helps Legion!Len fight the Legion

Episode 18 O!Len comes back and re-joins Mick's side, but isn't able to convince him not to go with Legion!Len in episode 19

Episode 20, Mick discovers Len is real

Episode 22, everyone else does and Len gets resurrected

Bambi

Decision made that Bambi survives; Pan will fix the details

Because Bambi survive in episode 2, there will be a line in the very end of the finale, when they crash land in LA and there are dinos there, just as the scene is fading to black we get a Ray voice-over going "wait...Bambi?!"

because that would be A, hilarious and B, a good tie-in to show that time is broken and they didn't land in a different part of the multiverse

Pencil

It's a convenient device that Nate would have around that the audience won't immediately go "ah-ha! mysterious item gets mentioned! will be important!"; him waving around the pencil in the pilot is a nice, easy way to bring it into the audience's view - but not emphasize it

It's his "lucky" pencil that he only uses for important exams; think of the kid who has a pencil box where he lovingly keeps that ONE PENCIL that he passed a test with and he uses it ONLY for tests

Nate inadvertently creates his own closed time loop: the spear is scattered through time and appears in Nate’s possession, which he thinks is a gift from his grandfather – it immunizes him from the changes in time (Nate tells his grandfather "you gave me your lucky pencil"; his grandfather who does not' have a lucky pencil gets weird about it then grabs a random pencil from the mission ( the spear piece) and gives that to young!Nate thereby completing the circle)

The JSA is there on a legitimate mission that is being messed up by the spear piece being there but since they're IN the time period, they don't realizes it's being messed with; the Legends, however, realize something is wrong and figure out that those weird glowing sticks might be involved and go looking but also try to help fix the original mission, which they mess up and show how unprofessional they are; however, in the end, they manage to help the JSA complete their mission and in the process, Henry grabs the spear piece he doesn't know it's a spear piece because the legends never shared that info

He takes the pencil because Nate told him he gave him his lucky pencil and Henry didn't have one but he doesn't want to disappoint his grandson so he picks one up going "this is a good memento of a really weird mission" and the Legends realize that that's how Nate got the spear piece in the first place it plays on the nature of time travel

the pencil is a closed time loop - it's a really nice way to play with time travel without being too cliche - it's the "being your own grandfather" trope but funny

the fact that we have two "time loops" in the early episodes - but not really in the later ones - could be a symptom of the timeline freeing itself from the "set" history of the Time Masters

which would be really cool thematically, with the Legends being set up by their various experiences in season 2 to actually start /deliberately changing history/ in season 3

Nate

Nate's hemophilia resolved with Gideon just saving his life, but doesn't fix his hemophilia

would be really funny to have Nate cameo in Doomworld by literally doing the same thing he does in the pilot - breaking into the mayor's office and babbling about history something. except this time it's Darkh; but then darhk would kill him, but it'd be undone by the end of Doomworld

Ray breaking his suit

The full sequence is episode 6 (damage) episode 7 (overshadowed by Invasion) episode 8 (breaks) episode 9 (unsuccessful repair; acknowledge that he won’t be able to use it) episode 10 (can't use it all; trying new personas).

Because it's his screwing up in episode 6 that causes it, but it doesn't fully break it. and he's not a big player using his suit in Invasion, which we're mostly leaving alone

In Episode 9, he’s trying to put the suit back together but has only gotten parts of it to work; he shrinks due to an error and is worried he won’t be able to get big again – should have a moment at the end of the episode where Ray acknowledges he won’t fix it any time soon and realizing he needs to try to be a hero in a different way to set up the episode 10 montage

Ray montage

in terms of visuals, the scene should probably focus on Ray in the center, with whoever commenting doing so from off-screen

Ray tries to give himself powers; "I'm going to Captain America myself" "Remember how that went for Bruce Banner?" - a good way to point out that the Marvel universe are comics in DC

dress him in the GL outfit and he's explaining to someone that "so it'll be based around this ring -" "won't work"

dress him as the Blue Beetle for a second before he goes "naaaaah"

booster gold and Gideon advises against

We should have him in a superman costume at one point but with no "s" and he's saying "I dunno, maybe if something went in the middle?" (that is also a Powergirl reference - the superman outfit but the "s" was a chest-window or the "atom" LOT symbol, and then you have someone (Jax?) off-screen going "no, man, no")

possibly one piece outfit, Naruto outfit - Mick offscreen just goes "NO, haircut"

Vikings

Jax says Stein is his dad, possibly a mentor instead? Or a specific reference to multi-cultural Vikings

the changing vs. preserving history argument

They are split up as sara, ray, amaya for preserve and mick, jax, stein for change, but by the end of episode 13, it ends up as mick, jax, stein, amaya vs. sara, ray, rip once rip's brainwashing is removed and amaya hears about her future from queen b

Cameos

Jason Blood in the background for a few episodes

I think the references to Poison Ivy not returning their calls and then having a discussion of Poison Ivy in Doomworld worked really well using Kendra three times was also really great

the Lanterns should also be foreshadowed more, if they're going to appear (one reference to the Lanterns in our rewritten Invasion, so if we have maybe one more somewhere, it'd be enough)

References to the other rogues: both in the future and mick, len, and lisa talking about them

Need to fill in reference in filler episode (Selina Kyle? Someone else?)

Trauma

Should have some scenes dealing with the trauma Ray went through while surviving in the cretaceous period and dealing with the effects Rip's brainwashing had - both characters would try to deny it, powering through until they break (Ray when his suit breaks for good in episode 10 - he mentions that he feels empty without his suit and all alone like he did in the Cretaceous period)

Rip and Mick should definitely have a moment to discuss brainwashing, if possible

Ray's suit is some symbolism for his psychological journey

Episode 3

Possible move to D Day or using the 1942 occupation of the south of France because of the Allied invasion of Morocco

Episode 10

Stein goes undercover as a Brit as well, and that's how they find out that the Legion are influencing the Brits; That way he gets stuck on the British ship and can't form Firestorm until the climatic battle moment

episode 8

Zatanna and Madame Xanadu should appear briefly in the beginning (wild goose chase montage when they’re trying to hire someone other than Constantine)

The organization should be 1, Rip being chased; 2, intro sequence; 3, Constantine sequence with Zed getting the vision; 4, they go after Rip and I think 4, the feudal Japan sequence, should be longer, with more chasing and action sequences, as well as a scene where the Legends lose Rip to the Legion because Ray’s suit breaks and where Rip thinks Eobard is friendly before realizing he’s not;

needs a scene where the Legends return to Constantine and he offers them the compass in exchange for help with the Crusade, THEN intersperse the Rip interrogation with the Legends defeating the Crusade

#recap #episode 3 #episode 10 #episode 8 #episode 5

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embracetheapocalypsewithme · 8 years ago

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Embracing the Apocalypse, Part 24: Keeping Up Appearances

This is the second-to-last chapter of Embracing the Apocalypse! I can't believe how quickly I wrote this thing. Microsoft Word tells me that, if this were printed out, I would need 140 pages...that's a freaking novel, guys! I hope you enjoy this chapter, and stay tuned for the stunning conclusion of EtA!

Summary: Is Rebecca really dead? Or undead?

Word Count: 4,045

Content Warnings (or selling points?): Smut, Negan, Negan being Negan, language, violence, blood, oral sex.

Part 1: The Tale of Thelma Facefuck

Part 2: What’s Up, Doc?

Part 3: A Successful Job Interview Begins with a Firm Handshake and Ends with a Salty Surprise

Part 4: A Crack in Everything

Part 5: Sorting Duty Sucks

Part 6: A Faint Whiff of Bullshit in the Air

Part 7: Turn and Face the Strange

Part 8: Poor Life Choices

Part 9: In Which Negan is a Total Jerk

Part 10: No Plan

Part 11: Negan Settles Rebecca’s Hash

Part 12: I know Where That Hand Has Been, Negan

Part 13: Gimme Danger

Part 14: The Loneliest Hours of the Morning

Part 15: Well, Fuck You Too, Kitty!

Part 16: That Escalated Quickly

Part 17: Well Fuck Me Gently with a Chainsaw

Part 18: Shards of Glass

Part 19: Donkey Heaven

Part 20: Morphine Dream

Part 21: Promises to Keep

Part 22: Are You a Killer?

Part 23: That the Hill You Wanna Die On?

Part 24: Keeping Up Appearances

Read on AO3: http://archiveofourown.org/works/8807527/chapters/23042742

Part 24: Keeping Up Appearances

As soon as Negan’s hand grazed her cheek, Rebecca’s head jerked up from its resting place against her chest and her eyes opened wide, staring at him. Her face was emotionless; just a blank slate of pale skin with Stephen’s drying blood streaming from her mouth and down her chest.

“Holy fucking shit!” he cried, falling back onto his ass, sure that she was about to lunge for his throat too. How had she reanimated before the others when she had been the last to die?

But as he prepared to defend himself against the reanimated corpse of the woman he had loved for the second time in his life, Negan noticed that she hadn’t moved toward him at all. He also realized that the eyes staring at him weren’t the opaque, milky colour of the dead, but the bright green of a very alive woman.

“Fuckface? Are you alive?” he asked, his voice coming out strangled and hoarse as Chris looked on in stunned silence.

“I killed him,” she said. Her voice was dull and far away, but her eyes rose slowly to meet Negan’s.

“I’ve never seen one of those dead fucks talk before, so I’ll take that as a ‘yes’ then,” he said before sitting up and moving closer to where she was to put his arms around her and push his face into her hair, inhaling deeply.

“Rebecca, are you hurt?” Chris asked, standing from his place beside Stephen’s body and moving toward the pair.

“Fucker stabbed me in the leg when I bit him…” she answered, still in a daze.

Negan looked down to see a deep gash that ran along her upper left thigh, oozing blood, “Fucking fuck! Chris, can you get a shirt out of that dresser behind you? Second drawer from the top.”

The other man did as he was asked, tossing a white shirt to Negan who proceeded to wrap it tightly against the wound, “Thanks. Be a dear and run to get Krouse for me, Christopher.”

“Sure thing,” Chris replied, walking hurriedly out of the room and turning in the direction of the infirmary.

Negan sat with Rebecca in his arms for a long time. His eyes were closed and his heart still raced with adrenaline. Once he had calmed down, he spoke to her: “I thought I lost you again…”

Rebecca didn’t answer immediately, but after a shaky inhale, she replied: “I thought you did too. When he attacked me, I didn’t think I’d make it. I was so weak from the beating and the drugs, and a part of me almost wanted to give up. But I just couldn’t bear to think of you finding me like that. After everything you’ve told me about Lucille and how she died. I knew I had to fight for you.”

“I’m glad you fought, Fuckface. I’m proud of you.”

“He was one of the men who attacked me before, wasn’t he?” she asked.

“Yeah. We’ve got the other one locked up in the basement with Julie,” Negan answered.

“Who is he? The other one?”

“Ted,” he said simply.

“Fucking Pencil-Dick? Didn’t think he had it in him…” Rebecca replied, sounding legitimately surprised.

“Yeah, well, it was definitely him. And he’s fucking proud of it too, the bastard.”

“I didn’t think I could kill someone, you know,” she blurted out suddenly, “I know I talked a big game about wanting to kill them before, but I wasn’t sure. Not until this asshole over here came at me,” she gestured toward Stephen’s body, “But I can. Not for no reason. But when I need to, I can do it.”

“What are you trying to say, Fuckface?”

“We have to kill them,” she looked up at him, her eyes shining with a mist of tears, “I don’t want to. But we have to. Right?”

He sighed and buried his face in her hair again, before mumbling into it, “Yeah. I think we fucking do.”

“Ok. Then I want to be the one to do it. And I want everyone to see it.”

“Rebecca…”

“It’s not your battle. It’s mine. And I should be the one to do it.”

“No,” he said firmly, “That shit is not happening. We’ll take them somewhere away from the Sanctuary and shoot them in the head. But no theatrics. No crowds. No brutality.”

“How are you going to deter others from trying this shit again then?” she asked sharply.

“Oh, everyone will know about it. We’ll have a town hall to announce their sentences before they’re carried out, and attendance will be mandatory. But I’m not bashing in brains anymore. And neither are you,” he tilted her face up so that he could look her in the eyes, “Go it?”

“Yeah. I got it. If you think that’s what’s best, then that’s what we’ll do,” she sighed, “I trust you to do the right thing for this community.”

“Thank you, Fuckface…” he leaned forward suddenly, as if propelled by an unseen force, to kiss her, first gently and then with a hunger that only comes from nearly losing someone that you love twice in as many days. He could taste Stephen’s blood still on her lips from where she had bitten him to save herself, but he didn’t care. Still pressing the fabric of his shirt against the wound on her leg, he allowed his free hand to stroke her hair and move down her body where it rested at her lower back.

Rebecca kissed him back with every bit as much passion, her body moving toward him and her hands finding their way to his chest. Eventually, they were locked in an embrace with her arms looped around his thick neck, and her nails lazily trailing through the hair at the nape of his neck, causing a shudder of pleasure to ripple through his body.

Flashing her devilish grin he asked, “Is it totally inappropriate for me to be getting hard right now?”

“Nah. Truth be told, my panties are totally soaked with more than just Stephen’s blood right now.”

“God-fucking-damn it. Way to kill my boner, Fuckface.”

“Oh, come on,” she smiled back, “If you’re really nice I’ll let you get to second base before Krouse makes it up here-“

As if summoned by her words, the door to the room burst open, sending the handle several inches into the plaster of the wall beside it. Krouse and Chris stood in the hallway, quickly making their entrance to check on the freshly injured woman.

“Jesus fucking Christ, Krouse! You didn’t have to break my door down and fuck the wall up. This isn’t fucking CSI: Apocalypse or some shit…” Negan growled at the man, his face showing his disdain.

“Oh! Sorry...I just- Chris told me it was an emergency. I came as fast as I could,” he knelt beside the couple, laying out a bag full of various medical supplies which included disinfectants and a needle for stitching wounds, “Can’t keep you out of trouble, can we, Rebecca?”

“No, I guess I just attract the bad boys, don’t I doctor?” she said, shooting a sly look at Negan out of the corner of her eye.

“That you fucking do. Gonna have to keep you under lock and key here soon,” Negan mumbled, still holding onto the small woman.

“Mind if I take a look at what’s going on under the shirt?” asked Krouse, ignoring the flirting taking place in front of his face.

“What the fuck are you talking about?” asked Negan, narrowing his eyes at the other man.

“The knife wound?” Krouse replied, “Under the shirt you’re holding on top of it?”

“Oh!” the large man replied, carefully removing the blood-soaked cloth from Rebecca’s leg, “I thought you were asking to see her titties or something…”

“What?! No! Jesus Christ, why would you think that?” Krouse asked with a horrified expression, before going in to inspect Rebecca’s leg. After a moment, he reached into the bag beside him for the disinfectant.

“What? You trying to say you don’t want to see my titties?” asked Rebecca with mock sadness, “You think I’m gross of something? Do I disgust you?”

“No…I’m just…trying to be professional…and…” the man trailed off in frustration as Rebecca burst into gales of laughter.

“Sorry, I think I’m still a little high from the morphine. Or in shock. I dunno. I’m just fucking with you, doctor,” she said breathlessly before taking a deep breath to calm her laughter, “I don’t know what Negan’s excuse is.”

“You know, I forget what that psychologist said the disorder was called…but the official name has at least five syllables,” Negan said earnestly before cracking a brilliant smile at the room.

“Yes, well, Rebecca’s going to be fine. He missed anything important or…uh…gushy. I’ll just get this cleaned up and she’ll need a few stitches…” Krouse said, evidently deciding to ignore Negan and Rebecca’s antics once and for all. Chris continued to watch the scene unfold, but looked away once the former paramedic brought out the needle to begin inserting the stitches.

Once her leg was stitched up, Rebecca smiled sweetly at Krouse from her position on the floor next to Negan, who had held her hand during the entire process, “Thank you for your help again, Doctor Krouse. And sorry for being awkward earlier. You really are a good doctor.”

“It’s no problem,” he said with a faint smile, “Now, you’ll need to get yourself cleaned up, but you can’t soak the stitches or get them wet at all for a few days, so you’ll need to…kind of…um…sponge bathe for a while, I guess.”

“I volunteer!” Negan said eagerly.

Rebecca gently slapped at his arm to quiet him down, “Yes, I’m sure they both know that you’ll help me out with that task, Negan.”

Krouse’s face remained expressionless at their conversation; he seemed to be completely over getting worked up at the couple by this point, “If you need anything else, let me know. I’ll be back to check on you tomorrow and make sure everything’s going well.”

Krouse turned to leave and Chris followed him into the hall, throwing a final comment over his shoulder at Negan and Rebecca as he left, “You guys get cleaned up. I’ll be back in a while for Stephen,” with that he closed the door, leaving the couple alone.

“Think you can get yourself up off the floor and into the bathroom?” Negan asked.

Rebecca shrugged slightly, “Won’t know until I try, so let’s find out.”

Propping an arm against the bed behind her, she pulled herself to her feet, bending over slightly for a moment before straightening her back, and taking a tentative step toward the bathroom’s door. She had to skirt around the pool of blood that had spread around Stephen’s body, and nearly tripped over her own feet.

“Shit! Careful, Fuckface…” Negan said, moving toward her to grab her arm.

“I’m fine. Just clumsy today,” she murmured, continuing her journey across the room.

“I need to go get us some water and another change of clothes for you since we’re running low on guards to do the running for us. Think you’ll be ok alone for a few minutes?”

“Yeah, I should be fine.”

Rebecca quietly opened the door to the bathroom and walked into the darkened room as Negan ran off to get the supplies needed to clean her up. The candles they had used earlier were dark, but still in their former positions around the room. Since there was nothing else to do but wait, she went to work re-lighting them, hobbling around the bathroom on her injured leg and cursing at how it impeded her progress.

Once the candles were lit, the room glowed with flickering orange light, making her feel safe and comfortable. It reminded her of a cabin she had stayed at with her parents back in Maine during a spring break many years prior to the outbreak. She had been a surly teenager at that time, and hadn’t wanted to leave her friends to spend “quality time” with her family. Looking back now, she cherished these memories of her mother and father, wishing that they were still alive to see the woman she had grown into.

With these thoughts in her mind, Rebecca limped over to the large mirror that hung against the room’s back wall, just behind the sink. She peeled the once-pristine white robe, now soaked in Stephen’s rapidly congealing blood, from her body and allowed it to fall to the floor with a wet plop.

Stepping closer to the mirror, her eyes travelled her own body, noting the many cuts and bruises from her beating. She met her own eyes in the mirror and almost didn’t recognize herself in the image reflected before her. The eyes will still their characteristic green, but there was something different about them. Some shine and life had left them. Her cheeks were hollow and her skin was far too pale, even in the warm candlelight.

(yeah, stress’ll do that to ya, lady)

Wrapping her arms around herself as a chill raced through her body, she turned from her reflection, and continued to wait for Negan to return. She decided that it would be better to stare at a white wall than to see herself looking so old and haggard in the mirror.

(better to ignore it all than to think too much about the shitty things that have happened…for now anyway…)

Fortunately, she didn’t have to wait much longer as the door to the bedroom sprang open and Negan entered with his arms full of washcloths, towels, clothing, and a large bucket of soapy water.

“Oh shit! You’ve already got the place lit up, I see. Nice fucking work!” he beamed at her, joining Rebecca in the bathroom.

“Had to do something other than just be useless and stand here, I guess,” she said nonchalantly.

“Heh. If it’s one thing you are not, Rebecca, it’s useless. Wait…did that make sense? I’m bad at negatives and double negatives and shit,” he paused, “What I mean to say is that you’re very useful, even when you’re hurt. Not too many ladies who could rip the throat out of some douchebag attacking them when they’re in the state you were in.”

“Well, thanks for that…” she trailed off as he approached her and placed the bucket next to them on the gleaming, tiled floor.

“You ready for your sponge bath, baby?” he asked with a smirk.

“I am so very fucking ready to not be covered in blood, yes!” she replied with an exasperated sigh.

“Let’s get you in the tub again then, dirty girl,” he said, offering her a large arm with which she could steady herself as she stepped over the high sides of the tub’s basin.

Once she was safely inside, the elevation of the tub bringing her up to eye-level with the large man, he bent over slightly to dip one of the wash clothes into the soapy water before bringing it up to Rebecca’s face and softly using it to clear away the blood that had encircled her mouth and spread down her neck and across her chest.

As the water slowly diluted and cleaned the blood away, causing it to flow down Rebecca’s body and into the basin below, she began to feel like a human again. It took a long while to completely clear her skin of the sticky substance, but Negan insisted on doing all of the cleaning himself; even the bits that she could easily have reached. He insisted that she not ruin the fantasy for him because cleaning her up was “kind of sexy”. After the task was finally finished, he passed her a towel and allowed her to blot away any remaining dampness from her skin.

“So, do you want the good news or the bad news first?” Negan asked as he moved toward a small pile of clothing he had brought with the towels and water.

“Hm. Let’s start bad and brighten up with good,” Rebecca replied thoughtfully.

“The bad news is that we are fresh out of fluffy robes.”

“Awe shit. That was really cozy too.”

“I know. Sorry, Fuckface. The good news is that I bought you these,” he beamed at her proudly as he produced a pair of stretchy leggings with a skull and crossbones motif checkering the black fabric.

“Oh my!” she gasped, before throwing her head back and laughing, “Those are amazingly silly, but they look comfy as hell.”

“I thought they were bad ass,” he said, pouting slightly at her comment about the leggings being silly.

“They most definitely are bad ass,” she said with a grin before putting her arms around his shoulders and planting a soft kiss on his lips, “Thank you, Negan. I’ll treasure them until my legs wear holes into the fabric of the inner thighs.”

“That’s more fucking like it,” he said slowly, his dark eyes meeting hers and refusing to move away.

Rebecca’s arms never wavered from their position around his neck as she pulled him toward her and pressed her lips to his, this time more passionately. As the kiss lingered, she allowed a low groan to emanate from deep within her body before pulling back slightly from him.

“I think before I put those leggings on, we should take a little trip to the bedroom. And you should get naked. And into the bed with me,” her grin spread further.

“Are you sure? You’re not too sore?”

“Oh, I’m sore, but I don’t give a flying fuck,” she said with a near-manic giggle, “I’ve almost died twice, and I want at least one more night with you before someone tries for round three.”

“Baby, that’s not gonna fucking happen. I won’t let anyone hurt you, Rebecca,” his eyes bore into hers with an intensity she had rarely seen from him, “But if you want to fuck anyway, I would be happy to fucking oblige.”

They made their way out of the bathroom, blowing out the candles on the way. As Rebecca bent over to snuff out one of the last flickering lights she felt Negan move behind her and caress her back and ass with a rough hand before lightly patting her there. She stood up and turned around, raising her face to his to look him in the eyes before taking his hand and leading him from the room and toward the bed.

Negan began to undress, stripping first the leather jacket from his body, and then the white t-shirt. Both ended up in a pile in the corner of the room. Next his belt came off, finally allowing him to hurriedly unbutton his pants and step out of them before kicking them over to the pile of discarded clothes.

“Someone’s in a hurry,” Rebecca said in a low voice, moving toward him until she stood with her body pressed against his in the middle of the room, “We can take our time, you know. We’ve got all the time we need. At least until Chris comes back to retrieve the body.”

“Yeah, I was trying to ignore Stephen.”

“Good call.”

She stood on her toes as he bent down to meet her in another kiss, this one even deeper than their previous ones. Her hands moved down his arms and to his chest as their lips parted and their tongues met along the border where her lips ended and his began to battle for dominance. Breaking off the kiss to trail her tongue across his neck and onto his shoulders, Rebecca reached down and allowed her hand to meet his cock, which was already hardened from just the sensation of her lips and tongue against his.

“Mmm. Oh my! Long time, no see, Negan’s penis!” she giggled.

“It’s been way to fucking long, I think,” he said before propelling himself forward, his lips crashing into hers again as he tried to lead her to lie down on the bed.

“Nuh-uh, Mister. You get on your back this time,” she said with a devious look in her eyes as she slowly spun him around so that his back was now to the bed before gently pushing him toward it.

“Yes, ma’am! You know I can’t resist a woman who takes charge,” he jumped back into the bed, his cock bobbing up and down with the momentum.

Rebecca made her way over to him, still limping from the wound on her leg, but never showing any real pain in her features. She climbed on top of him, straddling his waist and allowing her pussy to loom just over his crotch, teasing him yet not giving in and allowing him entry.

Crawling up his body, she trailed kisses across his stomach and chest as she went, finally making her way to his lips, a hand moving to gently rub over the dark stubble that had grown on his cheeks and chin. He was usually clean shaven, but seemed to have neglected his personal hygiene in favour of dealing with her dramatic situation for the past few days.

“We’re gonna have to shave this soon,” she said, “Gotta keep up appearance, you know.”

“Oh, I fucking know,” he said leaning into her for another kiss, “If it’s not too rough, you can sit on my face and let me eat your pussy though.”

“Now that sounds like a ride I’d enjoy taking very much,” she said, rolling off of him before positioning herself over his face in a sixty-nine formation.

His breath was hot against her flesh as her slit lined up with his mouth, and she felt his tongue take an exploratory lap against the sensitive trench, eliciting a slight shiver and moan from her. His tongue probed deeper into her and his hands made their way from her thighs to her ass as he held her exactly where he wanted her.

Meanwhile, Rebecca confidently grasped his throbbing shaft in her hand before bringing her mouth down to meet it, allowing her tongue to swirl around the head. As she did this, a low moan caused Negan’s lips to vibrate against her clit, and she sucked in a sharp breath at the sensation.

Hungrily, he pressed his face deeper between her thighs, sucking her clit into his lips and flicking his tongue over her until she thought that she would lose her mind at his touch. Each time he did this, Rebecca would take his cock further into her mouth, sucking him gently at first, and then with a needy intensity that caused his thighs to quake against the sides of her head.

They were both getting close to finishing, and she could feel his stomach harden against her breasts as he readied himself to cum for her. Not wanting to take too much longer than he did, Rebecca ground herself against his face, forcing his tongue to hit her in just the way she needed it to in order to get off. His fingers dug into her ass, and she was sure that she would find red welts there later.

She opened her throat and mouth up wide, soaking his already pulsing cock in saliva as she took him all the way down. She began to cum, her hips bucking slightly as her body involuntarily tried to get away from the overwhelming sensation of his tongue against her clit. As soon as her own orgasm began to abate, she felt a loud growl emanate from Negan’s lips and her mouth was suddenly full of his salty release. Allowing herself to drink all of him up, she slowed her pace and moved her lower body away from his lips, taking the last few drops of his cum into her mouth before rolling off of him again.

They lay side by side on the bed, breathing heavily and unable to speak for a long time. Eventually, she rolled over to wrap her arms around his stomach and nestled her head against his chest. They fell asleep with Rebecca listening to his heart beating, first rapidly with the afterglow of orgasm, and then slowing to a soothing rhythm. She was safe and happy in his arms at last.

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ukrainianwomenonline · 5 years ago

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FEEDBACK ABOUT TRIP TO UKRAINE FROM ARTHUR (USA)

Welcome to Ukraine Brides agency. Here we are always happy to share our latest news with our precious clients.

Recently, our client Arthur from the USA has visited Ukraine and was glad to share his experience with UBA service.

– Dear Arthur, we are glad to see you in Ukraine. And we would like to ask a few questions about Ukraine, your experience and about your trip in general. At the beginning could you please introduce yourself and tell us how did you know about our site?

– Arthur: Well, I’m from the United States (I know it was difficult to guess) from Colorado. I found about this site through the friend I met in Kyiv in 2015 and we kept in touch by email. I guess I won’t say his name; I know you know who he is. He’s been in your office. He told me about ukrainebridesagency.com. However, being skeptical especially in the level of scams that we are here about. He says that these guys are really legitimate, these guys are real. I dot online and look at this and say hey let me go ahead. Give this a chance, see how it works out.

– Thank you. And is it your first trip to Ukraine or you were here before?

– Arthur: I’ve been to Ukraine second time. My first time in Ukraine was in 2004 and 2006. Generally saying, it’s mostly vacation leisure. I wasn’t necessary here in Ukraine for a lady. This is more explore thing as I like traveling. And there was a long gap when I was not traveling to places. So my last time in Ukraine when I come back was in June 2015. And I came back several times since then. And especially being on Ukraine Brides and being working outside of the word it is more easy for me to fly to Ukraine and then go back to the United States.

– As I told you before a lot of our clients do worry whether t is safe to come to Ukraine. Could you please share some information, do you feel safe here?

– Arthur: Oh yes, I was kidnapped in the office =) Kidding. I didn’t have any problems. The only thing is I quickly learned is to take taxi drivers. But have never had anybody try to rob me. ‘Course, I mean I’m careful driving anyways. It doesn’t matter what city you are going to in the world every city has its not good parts. But I’ve never had any issues. I’ traveled all over the Ukraine I’ve been to many cities in Ukraine.

– And according to your experience, I see that you are an experienced traveler, and as you told you was here several times – What do think about Ukraine? Could you please share your feelings, your thoughts about our country, what people you met?

– Arthur: People are friendly. I met some coming to Ukraine, I met some a bit of friend. Course some friends I lost. I’ve made some Russian friends, ‘course I’ve been to Russia too. I just met some good friends that I keep in touch with. In fact, some of them I know living in the United States now. I know one lady, she moved from Poltava and she is a friend, she’s now living in the United States with her husband in Montana. I keep in touch with a lot of people. It is easy here to make friends. People here in general very friendly.

– Could you please tell which of our services you have tried? And which of them you like and which you think are not so interesting? Or you would like to suggest something to improve our work?

– Arthur: I’ve used pretty much almost all the services or maybe not all of them, because I don’t like letter writing. In chats, it limits, because you really can build a personality you are not. The video chat I’ve done before. I mean I’m not really can much on video chat, less is Skype you can use and start again. It’s being expansive starting video chat for hours on in. What are the other services? In fact, I travel on my own. I know there are travel services for those who have never been to Ukraine which I would suggest. Somebody has never been to Ukraine and there are skeptical. I was suggesting using Ukraine Brides travel agency – Simply Travel. In fact, I would just spend some time on the request to get the price, but I’ve never done this. The reason is I’ve really experienced traveler. I usually can make some pretty good deals; I mean the less expensive road. But I would suggest for those guys not to waste their nerves on how to get come to Ukraine, they don’t know anything about the language, about the culture. I would suggest for users to use Simply Travel. Don’t think about everything. They can meet you at the airport, they can seat you in a hotel. Somebody will need a local sim card for the phone or if you what they will get you a phone.

– And what about gifts? Have ordered a gift for a lady? Maybe you like delivery?

– Arthur: Yeah, I like the delivery. I did do a gift, not too many times because I don’t really like doing gifts to somebody I don’t know. I could learn that through experience. I have to meet somebody first before I start doing gifts. My recommendations to those who want to send a gift to the lady they have not met yet – Make it simple, don’t go overboard. Because you may meet that lady and she’s not what she is. Cause I even sent a gift for a lady that I brought letters to and even did a video chat with and it even did not work out.so I would suggest to play a safe and wait to meet the lady then she forgets.

– Some of our clients are just unable to come to Ukraine for a meeting after three or four months of communication. And they are really interested in a lady and they want to show that “I appreciate you”, “I’m interested in you” and we also advise them to send to the lady some small gift: some flowers, some chocolate, like this. Something very simple, just to show your attention: “I remember about you”, “I care about you”.

Could you please give advise to our customers how should they act on the site to get success? For example, what did help you more: messages, video chat, real meeting? What was better for you and what would you recommend to our clients?

– Arthur: It’s a hard question. In order, somebody has a success with the lady on a site? I would say first of all for me it should be realistic. If you are sixty don’t think you going to get twenty y. o. It may happen but such cases are pretty rare. I would say I start of a small first like see a lady you might be attractive to. First, send a nudge. See if she nudges you back or reacts on you back. If you don’t hear anything, give her a few days maybe even a week. Send her another nudge, whit a couple of days. If you don’t hear anything, then send an introduction letter. To should introduce yourself to the lady. And if you don’t hear anything after that then probably she may haven’t the interest. She might be kind and nice and send you some kind of respond saying you not the gentleman she’s looking for. I’ve never had such a situation. Usually ladies… they respond… I got some kind work out of there. You can really go there and find the lady you like and book a chat. So she will get a note you really want it, so or book a meeting. If you just book meet with the lady she will just think “this guy just booked a meeting, this guy is serious if he wants to meet”.

– That is really good because a lot of our clients they don’t know how to start, what to start with, send a message, or maybe an introduction or book a chat or what to do. And this is really helpful advice. So, how to go to your dreams step-by-step? How to meet your lady match, then maybe an introduction, then maybe a video chat?

– And another thing is too that a lot of times that I got the case that you just get bombarded with letters and messages. I mean, I have and I just lose track cause a lot of times I can’t be on the Internet all the time, cause I got to work and do things. So, I lost track of the ladies I was interested in and a couple of months later I realize “Oh, this is the lady I really wanted to get to know”. So, in a lot of cases, you probably won’t have sent a message or something, cause a lot of ladies will send you messages.

– Yeah, you can just check the messages from these ladies, check their profiles and choose one or few of these ladies who might be a good match for you.

– Yes, and kind of on a personal note to is when I get so many letters from the ladies and from somebody that I am not really interested in, I kind of feel bad because of that. Well, I can be kind and write her back but it can get expensive though if you got to write back to every lady. So then, I really talking to somebody else right now, but thanks, I mean I do not want the lady to think that I’m ignoring her.

– We have such a button…

– Oh, do you?

– Yes, we have it.

– I did not see that.

– You can, when you open a message from a lady – you have a few options there, and you can send her a message that you are not interested in her right now in such a way that “I’m sorry, but I’m in communication with another woman and I wish you good luck in your search”. And this message is free.

– Oh, okay. See, I never knew that, that is new for me.

– We are always here, as you know we work 24/7, so many of our clients can contact us via LiveChat, Viber, WhatsApp, Skype or email. And it can be even a simple question, any questions – we will answer it in 24 hours after receiving. So, if you just wondering how you can reject the lady’s message without paying for it – you can contact us and ask it. We will answer.

– Okay.

– And how do you think what is the best age difference to create a strong and happy family?

– And that’s kind of a judgment call, I would say. For some people maybe 10 years, maybe the most. For some people it may just be 5 years, for some, it’s like 15-20 or more years. I would just remember that the bigger the age gap the more difference they probably going to have, especially when you get to the generation gap 20+ years. And we talking of generation gap when your goals going to be different from her goals, she is going to want kids, you are going to be older – you already have kids, maybe they are already gone. And she going to want to start a family in most cases. So, I would just keep that in mind. My advice is to be real.

-Yeah, that’s right because it depends on the person and his or her views because sometimes the lady in her thirties’ have a mind of the lady in 20. And sometimes the lady in 20 has mid of the lady of 35 years old. So, yeah, that’s right, it depends on the person that’s first and also, you have to be realistic, that’s a good idea.

– I kind of notice that too. Lady that in her 20ies’, usually, I think different from the ladies in their 30ies’ or 40ies’.

– What do you think of that Ukrainian ladies that you have already meet? Either are they intelligent? How do they look like? Are they beautiful in their age? What do you think about them?

– Oh, they are great, very smart. The lady that I had a date last night – she has 2 degrees, very smart, beautiful and she has some good goals and hard-working. So, I mean I was impressed. Maybe some gentlemen had some bad experience with other ladies, but this lady that I’ve seen – she was a really nice, really kind, mature, good character.

– And one last questions, why did you decide to search for your woman in Ukraine? What attracts you in Ukrainian ladies?

– I get that question a lot, you know don’t you stick with American girls? First of all, I’m always traveling, so a lot of times I’m not even home in the United States. And, so I’m always moving around. My job, you know, inquires me to do that. So, it is difficult, to begin with, to meet American women in general. I meet more foreign women than do American women. American women, their mentality is more progressive, they are more interested, not all of them, there are some good ones, but a lot of them are more interested in a career, not really interested in a family. And for the Ukrainian women are the polar opposite. They are like very interested in family. Sure, they are great hard-workers too and they care about their family and they work and I consider them probably in general more responsible in many cases than Western women.

– Thank you for your time, for your answers. It will be very helpful for our clients and also, us. Thank you very much.

This is great when clients are honest and open-minded people who are happy to share with us, their experiences and appreciate our assistance.

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chriscanwell · 7 years ago

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New Post has been published on Develop Attraction

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How to Text a Girl Into Bed and Build Attraction

If you want to text a girl you like and build real attraction, this article will show you how to do this. Texting and calling a girl the right way is often the difference between success and failure with women.

You live in an age where you can now contact a woman anytime, day or night, without restriction, and without difficulty. In the history of mankind, this has never before been possible—until now.

Our ability to communicate 24/7 has made the dating game a whole lot easier, yet it’s also brought with it a whole new set of problems. The first problem is that women no longer exclusively use the phone as a way to communicate, the phone is now frequently used as a psychological weapon.

At no other time in history has it been easier for women to test men and wreak havoc on their emotions. Women know that if they can unsettle a man, there’s a good chance they’ll be able to expose his insecurities and find out just how confident he really is. This is why it’s so important to understand how to text a girl you like and call a woman the right way.

Ninety-five percent of men get a woman’s contact details and immediately ask the woman out on a date. Yes, you want to ask her out, but not with your first message.

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First Contact

The first message you send to a woman should simply be a “feeler message.” At this point, all you’re trying to do is figure out if the woman is interested in you or not. Your first message to a woman should be something simple along the lines of: “Hey, it was nice to meet you.” Nothing more, nothing less.

You’re not enquiring into how she’s doing or appearing too interested at this point. As always, it’s important to cultivate an aura of mystery and suspense.

Most men remain ignorant of the fact that longer messages only make them look more responsive and thus more desperate. This does nothing to raise a woman’s attraction or cultivate an aura of mystery.

The same applies to talking on the phone for hours on end. As with all areas of seduction, less is more. There are, after all, only so many things you can say to a woman before she knows everything about you. If you try to get too close to a woman too soon, you run the risk of giving away too much information.

You become a known quantity; and while this brings with it the elements of safety and security, it does nothing to build a sense of intrigue and fascination.

If a woman is interested in you, she’ll be in touch. You don’t raise a woman’s attraction by sending her lots of messages and calling her on the phone.

To get a sense of whether a woman is interested in seeing you or not, all you have to do is send her one message and wait for her to respond. No response means she’s either not interested or she’s seeing someone else.

If She Doesn’t Respond

If you receive no reply from your initial message, there’s no point sending another message in a desperate attempt to try and win her over. Only when a woman responds to your initial message, should you respond with some light-hearted banter before using this as an opportunity to ask her out on a date.

If, for whatever reason, a woman is unable to meet up with you, it’s important to remain unaffected by her response.

She might be genuinely busy and unable to meet you even if she wants to. It is, however, easy to kill attraction by handling resistance the wrong way. You might interpret a woman’s initial resistance as a sign of rejection.

This is the moment most men become hyper-responsive, bombarding women with messages and phone calls without waiting for a response.

The rules of attraction dictate that you should never display too much interest in a woman too soon to preserve your value and create an aura of mystery.

One sure way to kill attraction is to send too many messages without giving a woman enough time to respond. It’s essential that you allow a woman the opportunity reach out to you after you send her a message.

The natural flow of a text conversation should resemble that of a face-to-face conversation. In face-to-face conversation, a speaker who rambles without letting the other person speak comes across as overbearing and tiresome.

Don’t Text A Girl You Like Too Much

If you send too many messages without giving a woman the chance to respond, you’re telling the woman that you want her more than she wants you, and that’s never a good foundation for attraction. Consider the following text conversation between Stan and Diane:

Stan: Hey Di, it was great to meet you the other day. How are you? (No response from Diane.) Stan: Just finished work. Now on my way to the gym 🙂 Stan: What are you up to this evening? Diane: Hey, super busy day. Need to workout myself. Stan: Hope you have a great workout. What kind of workout are you doing? Stan: I just did some weights and cardio. Stan: Need to bust my stress. My day was crazy busy too! (No response from Diane.) Stan: Let me know if you’d like to catch up over the weekend. If you’re free? 🙂

In this situation, Diane might have been legitimately busy or she might have been testing Stan. Either way, Stan failed to give Diane enough time to respond.

By sending seven messages to Diane’s one solitary message, Stan displayed a weak, insecure side of himself that did nothing but lower Diane’s attraction for him.

In the early stages of the relationship, it’s easy to fall into the trap of texting a girl you like for hours on end. Resist this trap, for it offers few rewards. You might feel an intense level of desire and comfort when you speak to a woman.

You might feel the need to express this desire when you communicate, convinced that doing so will bring the two of you closer together and strengthen the bond between you. Many good men have fallen into this trap with disastrous consequences.

A study published in Psychological Science examined how women reacted to men who expressed different types of feelings for them. In the study, the women were asked to rate men in three different categories.

In the first category, the women were told the men “liked” them. In the second category, the women were told the men had “no feelings” for them. And in the third category, the women were told it was “unknown” how the men felt about them.

What was interesting about this study was that the women didn’t rate the men who “liked” them as the most attractive; surprisingly, the women rated the men whose feelings for them were “unknown” as the most attractive.

The study also revealed that the women found themselves thinking most often about the men whose feelings were “unknown” as opposed to the men who “liked” them or had “no feelings” for them at all.

This study demonstrates that uncertainty increases a woman’s attraction for a man. There’s no doubt the more a woman thinks about you, the more likely she is to find you attractive and desirable.

Make Her Work for Your Attention

Equally interesting research published in the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology examined the power of winning a lover over. The participants in the study were asked to engage in a series of meetings. During these meetings, each participant would “accidentally” overhear one of the experimenters describe the participant in one of four ways: (1) all positive: (2) all negative; (3) initially negative but becoming positive; or (4) initially positive but becoming negative. It was predicted that the participants in the study would like the experimenter more when the experimenter’s assessment of them was “all positive.”

What the researchers discovered, however, was that the participants in the study liked the experimenter more when the experimenter’s assessment of them was “initially negative but becoming positive.” The findings of this study can just as easily apply to the world of dating, where a woman is much more likely to find you desirable and attractive if she has to win you over as opposed to knowing that you liked her right from the start.

Case Study: Be a Challenge

Greg was attracted to Michelle the moment he saw her running on the treadmill at the gym. After summoning the courage to ask her out, Greg and Michelle soon started dating. Greg couldn’t believe his luck. Here was a woman who was not only beautiful and smart, she was also in great shape and had a body to die for. Greg and Michelle had now been dating for three months, and the more time they spent together, the more they liked each other.

Greg had dated a lot of women in the past, but Michelle stood head and shoulders above the rest. Now, in his early forties, Greg was looking to settle down and start a family.

Every morning, Greg would start the day by sending Michelle a message telling her how much he loved her and cared about her. Michelle loved this. Greg was sweet, attractive, successful, and kind. In fact, he was just about the kindest man Michelle had ever met. It was nice to feel loved and appreciated for once, especially after having had so many bad relationships in the past.

Michelle loved how she could talk to Greg on the phone for hours, talking about anything and everything. That is until one morning Greg sent Michelle another “Rise and shine, I love you” message.

For the first time in their relationship, Michelle no longer felt the need to respond. She couldn’t explain why she felt this way. When Michelle looked at Greg’s message, she felt nothing. No need to panic, Michelle thought as she fired off a quick “Love you too” in response. Greg had no idea that endlessly expressing his love and devotion had slowly but surely killed Michelle’s attraction for him.

Talking too long on the phone, sending too many messages, initiating every conversation, and expressing your love and devotion are all common traps that men fall into.

Expect Her to Test You

If your goal is to raise a woman’s attraction, you must learn to project strength and value even when speaking and texting on the phone. And although it’s your role as a man to initiate and chase a woman at the beginning of the relationship, this doesn’t mean you should send a woman a stream of messages if she doesn’t respond to you. All you have to do is send one message, then give her enough time to respond. Whether it takes her a minute to get back to you or a week is immaterial.

There will always be times when a woman goes cold and decides to ignore a man’s messages. The woman might be genuinely busy, she might be in a bad mood, or she might be testing you. Whatever the reason, you must wait for a woman to respond in her own time, even if this means walking away until she gets back to you.

If a woman takes an hour to respond, simply mirror her response time. If she responds within five minutes, feel free to respond in a similar timeframe.

If a woman doesn’t get back to you for a day or two, return the favor and respond the following day. Don’t feel as though you have to respond straight away just because it’s the “nice” thing to do. And don’t be afraid to make her wait. Just because it’s polite doesn’t mean it’s right.

Case Study: Exposing Insecurities

Kyle didn’t try to hide the fact that he was falling head-over-heels in love with Anita. She was the sexiest girl he had ever dated; not only that, she was easy-going and even easier to talk to. During the week, when Kyle and Anita didn’t see each other, they would often spend hours talking to each other on the phone.

One afternoon, Kyle sent Anita a message: “Hey, how’s your day going?” Four hours later, Kyle was still waiting for Anita to respond. What’s going on? Kyle thought. Has she lost interest in me? Kyle decided to send Anita another message to find out what was going on.

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Anita was driving to the gym when she saw Kyle’s message. She couldn’t respond right there and then so she told herself she would get back to him when she wasn’t driving. Anita drove to the gym then went to the supermarket. It was a busy afternoon and she kept telling herself to send Kyle a message as soon as she got home.

When Anita got home three hours later, she was exhausted and decided to jump in the shower then grab something to eat. She reminded herself to call Kyle right after she finished dinner. When Anita eventually got around to checking her phone, she saw a bunch of missed calls and messages from Kyle.

Kyle: Hey, I guess you’ve been really busy this afternoon. What are you doing? Kyle: Just going out for dinner, want to join me? Kyle: Is everything okay? Kyle: What’s going on? Has something happened? Kyle: Where are you?

Anita sighed with disappointment. She thought back to a time when she had dated a guy called Will. Once, when she didn’t respond to Will for half a day, she remembered how he had gone crazy and proceeded to blow-up her phone.

Without even realizing it, Kyle had just made a similar mistake. All those messages seeking reassurance exposed a weakness Anita had seen before in her ex-boyfriend, and she wouldn’t hesitate to dump Kyle if he acted the same way.

Attraction grows in space, not in close proximity. If you want to raise a woman’s attraction for you, you first need to get her thinking about you. Being less responsive is one way to accomplish this.

Don’t Be Too Responsive

There’s a deep underlying psychology when it comes to texting a girl you like if you want to build attraction. What you say, how you say it, how long your messages are, how frequently you send messages, who initiates first, and how fast you respond communicates either weakness or strength. When a man immediately responds to a woman’s messages, the woman can’t help but feel the man’s desperation. And what kind of man is desperate? The weak and unattractive man.

Numerous psychological studies show that men who are highly responsive are less attractive to women. A responsive behavior set is comprised of behaviors that signal that a man “understands, values, and is willing to support a woman and invest his resources into the relationship.” In other words, he is prepared to become the ultimate provider both physically and emotionally.

Most men believe that acting this way is a good thing. They assume the more supportive, understanding, and responsive they are the more likely a woman is to find them attractive. And while it’s true that men find responsive women attractive, women don’t feel the same way about responsive men.

If there are any lessons to be learned from studies into attraction, it’s that women aren’t attracted to nice guys. They’re attracted to men who project strength and confidence. If you start with the fundamental truth that women are attracted to strength in all its various forms and guises, it becomes a lot easier to see why being a “nice guy” and why being responsive is so unattractive.

From a woman’s perspective, a responsive man is more likely to be exploited by others. The responsive man also sends the signal that he’s eager to please, has a weaker character, and has fewer dating options.

If you’re over responsive and too available, you communicate weakness. A woman wants to know that she can have space without having to worry about you getting upset or becoming clingy.

Every human being wants freedom. If a woman thinks you’ll try to restrict her freedom in any way, she’ll instinctively pull away from you. It’s only in times of strife and uncertainty that problems arise.

Text a Girl You Like the Right Way

You must never allow your fears and insecurities to derail what should otherwise be a straightforward seduction. With this in mind, you must be conscious of where you stand in the seduction process and how fast you respond to women. When a woman sends you messages, you must be acutely aware of how long her messages are, and also how long your messages are in response. If a woman sends you short, abrupt messages, her current level of attraction for you is low.

Never make the mistake of responding to short messages with an overly long response. If, for whatever reason, a woman sends you short messages, which indicate a severe lack of interest, simply delay your response time, replicating a similar lack of interest.

Alternatively, sending no message at all is often the perfect way to allow a sense of anxiety to creep into the woman’s mind and grab her attention.

One of the main drawbacks to modern technology is that it’s now easier than ever for women to test men, especially if you’re trying to text a girl you like, it’s easier than ever to mess things up and kill her attraction. Be aware that technology can be used to project strength and it can also be used to expose weakness—which response will you choose?

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