#Thierry Rothart

[vellichorom]

I’ve been wondering for a while, but how did you come up with Thierry as the name for your narrator? 👀

OK I CAN'T FIND THE POST WHERE I TALKED ABOUT THE BIG FUN PROCESS IT TOOK TO EVENTUALLY GIVING HIM THE NAME THIERRY,

so instead i'll mention a detail i rarely ever bring up in regards to his name; what even made me think of it?

you see, i used to be REALLY into this webcomic called Never Satisfied; a story ALL ABOUT magic-users & familiars & corruption & ALL that good stuff, i highly recommend reading it

& ONE of the characters is known as Thierry Rothart

thierry from what i remember is- well you should just go read the comic yourself to find out actually- thierry & thierry aren't related in any way beyond namesake inspiration & being bitter, greying old men,

....yeah i don't know, the name stood out to me when i was writing down a big list of potential, POSSIBLE names for my version of the narrator. i didn't even mean to cement THIERRY as THE name but !!!! that's just how it goes innit,

what i DIDN'T realize at the time - funnily, was that Thierry is a french name ( i believe the narrator's partially french ) & that the name MEANS

so i feel like i won the lottery a little bit for not even having thought twice about the name

[ohcorny]

the most important question: what was the swan's name

marlowe and it's so embarrassingly bad that lucy's new name is rothart's familiar and their own familiar. in any future iteration i am not fucking doing that again

thierry keeping his first name but changing his last name to the guy he was going to marry is tragic but also incredibly dumb if he was going to keep living in the same city he faked his death in

[zarathustrart]

Nature is fine in love, and where ‘tis fine, It sends some precious instance of itself After the thing it loves.

I think the husks specifically fit very well into the setting of Tyrant Twin. Here’s Thierry as an insufferable professor at the University of Dornang

[dracoria-azucar]

Oh no wait I just realized that the way it was worded, Thierry might think Lucy is dead.

Like. “We’re here on behalf of your former apprentice-”???

He knows Fidelia is dangerous and was specifically hiding from her.

Why WOULDNT he think that her employees finding his missing kid and coming to speak to him meant that they’d been killed or tortured or whatever

[masquaves]

proud to announce that i have finally succeeded in drawing this two years after my previous attempt

[aroshi-wish]

Just various NS things from twitter. See this post to know why Ivy started drinking coffee.

[dafukdidiwatch]

Chapter 9 and 10 End

Got to go, running late on things. Will do recap later

TL;DR: I’m screaming, parent issues are are abundant as abusive and manipulation, and I have a new ship going on.

Edit: Ok I am back and I have new theories on everything going on because Fuck I’m down the rabbit hole here. Where or where do I fucking begin.

Really this session just hammers down the different type of abuse that poor Lucy is going through. It’s even color coded and everything. Blue being cold, isolation, physical and emotional neglect from Thierry. Vs the Red of warm, attentiive, possessive and emotional manipulation that is Fidelia.

I don’t doubt that Fidelia cares for Lucy. But it obviously is really twisted if like only one day in Fidelia is already trying to run Lucy’s life how she thinks it should be. Honestly Seiji nailed it when he pointed out the outfit change was more for Fidelia’s taste instead of Lucys’s.

And this chapter is nothing more than family secrets revealed to Sylas isn’t it? Like, how far do you have to break the boy he’s already hurt enough. His dad literally hating his eldest and lawful child, hates his mother, 100% willing to have an affair and have more children and being told flat to his face he is nothing but a tool. It hurt to learn he was there just as a ploy for Fidelia to keep Lucy to herself, but I loved how he still cared for his half siblings. He wasn’t angry at Emilia’s existence, but how Fidelia had seemed to cast her to the wolves that is their father. He wanted to learn more about Lucy as a person, as his sibling, and was happy that it sounded like they wanted to connect too. But of course he couldn’t because Fidelia made sure to try and nuke that chance before it could bloom. Leaving them both just as lonely as ever.

Ugh it sucks so much because Lucy left from one form of isolation abuse to another!

And a minor note, Peony is probably another bastard child of Fidelia and Dubois. Her and Emilia are probably twins than Dubois didn’t want to take care of both of them so he found a way to ditch one into the streets. I mean, it’s the fucking nose people! The timeline merges and fit to one complicated mess that wouldn’t have happened if two people didn’t decide to bone down.

God I want to know what January will think of this, hearing that the anomaly they were supposed to hunt down is now Fidelia’s pet favorite. Actually, now that Lucy is here, will Fidelia even care for January as much? Or will she still try since this is her way of manipulating the council.

Rin is apparently living her best life as a wolf monster of not giving a fuck and about to do some dirty backdoor dealings with Fidelia. That is Not going to bode well.

And finally, Seiji. Wow did that Bastard Man manage to change my perception of him. You bastard, how dare you make me like you. Fucking Twerp. But god, he is trying to get it through to Sylas that he should go after someone who Likes Him. Which, puts Sylas first as part of his feelings, but also can be flipped on to himself because if Sylas is straight, then Seiji should go after someone who likes him. And that hurts.

And then when he talked to Lucy, like first time ever talked to Lucy, it was cute. It was dramatic. It felt like a normal conversation where they aren’t putting on airs with each other and just trying to figure shit out. And it was, really cute. He has this fucking “devil-may-care” rogue persona that he defaults to when he feels cornered, hence the kiss to piss people off. But, having that be your first form of romantic interest after being in isolation for 5 years, I can see why Lucy may be smitten.

Of Course....it sucks that Seiji only managed to put 2 and 2 together on Lucy and Cylas AFTER he dipped. But he got there eventually. The disaster bastard man.

I think I have a thing where I can only approve of ships if I see some in-canon connection/plausibility first. And it wasn’t a pair I would see dating. But I honestly hope there could be some feelings that sprout between the two. Some emotional development that doesn’t center around emotional abuse since Seiji knows what’s up with Fidelia and calls her out on that.

And since this post couldn’t possibly get any longer: underneath are my theories and just what is up with Morgan and Thierry.

This is what happens when I get caught up on comics, I have IDEAS.

Let’s start off somewhere simple here: Timeline.

Fidelia and Dubois have affair. Multiple times. And it resulted in Morgan. Something Something happened and they pushed Morgan into hiding so it has no connection to them. I’m also thinking that because of how Morgan has no connection to them, since Fidelia lost touch with her kid, she made sure/blackmail the Dubois to raise their next kid as his own to make sure they are taken care of. Hence Emilia’s life.

Anyway Morgan was sick, went to the care of Joe Rothart and Dr. Malliet, where a sudden Husk attack killed Morgan and Dr. Malliet 5 years ago. Where Thierry took them to be raised as “Lucien” under his care.

Thierry “gave up everything” for the kid, meaning he thought it was in his best interest to take Morgan.

The reason Joe has a soft spot for Husks is probably because Dr. Malliet was his significant other/partner. Tobi asked if they “broke up” so it implies they were dating. See here I was thinking that Morgan was like, Joe’s brother or something, way older at the very least. But Morgan was the sickly kid, the patient, and Malliet was the other Husk Expert trying to help.

Basically what I’m saying is that Thierry and Joe were lovers. Thierry Rothart is really Dr. Thierry Malliet. While trying to help Morgan, he used his own magic to maybe siphoned the illness away or something and ended up turning into a Husk himself. So when he squirreled away with Morgan (Lucy) he took the last name of Rothart as a momento of their past relationship/ what could have been and as a way of hiding himself.

Also, Ivy isn’t his cat.

We fucking saw what happened with Captain Yiff of the Wolf Brigard. She turned into wolf mode like Jade did. However!!! Thierry became the bird man of Alcatraz and sprouted feathers. AND! Husks are people who literally reabsorb their magic familiars back into themselves. Meaning that Thierry can’t have absorbed his Peacock Bird familiar AND have Ivy the CAT be his active familiar.

The only way I can think this was any way possible to have a “have your cake and eat it too” moment is because of Su. Su never had magic to begin with, and how she’s a Goat Husk, implying if she did have access to magic her familiar would be a goat. The same could have happened to Lucy.

It was stated that for a Husk the magic comes from the eyes, and eyes are the windows of the soul. Trying to heal Morgan resulted in draining the magic from their eye and that magic latched itself into Thierry, turning him into a peacock man.

....why he wants to have his house be a shrine of peacocks of what he did instead of his own fucking cat, I will never know.

Regardless, I’m thinking that after Thierry did manage to cure Morgan, since he took their eye (again, part of the soul) it probably resulted in memory loss too. I’m thinking that the eyepatch is just covering a hole or dark powers because if Lucy has like one-eye in husk mode that would be really stupid.

It also better explains Ivy helping out Thierry’s Husk mode. Familiars are conduits of magic that allows the Mages/Magicians to safely use their magic without overloading. That’s why when the magic is reabsorbed into the person the magic is out of control and fluctuates on emotion. The animals are safeguards. So Ivy, as Thierry’s familiar, is able to drain away the magic in his emotional states. But that also backfires because draining away magic that wasn’t necessarily his means it was also draining away his memory, hence his behavior issues with Lucy.

Which can also explain Lucy’s own “magic draining powers” is because they is out of balance. They aren’t like  non-magic people where they aren’t able to access their magic. They aren’t like regular magicians where an animal familiar is there to help manage magic. And they aren’t like Husks where all the magic is fully absorbed into their body. Because they don’t have access to their original magic source (Thanks Thierry) their body is trying to balance itself out by siphoning the magic of others. Fill in the gap as it were. Which only works if they are in close physical contact with a magic source. But because it isn’t their original magic, it doesn’t last long. That’s why even though Ana was drained completely of magic, Lucy is unable to use it anymore, or at the very least can’t access it as easily.

The only other thing I could think of is how the hell does Fidelia connect with Thierry. Because Ivy was scared shitless of her or the thought of her. She probably threatened them both as Dr. Malliet to do “whatever it takes” to cure Morgan, and we all know how possessive she is with her children.

Long story short, Dr. Thierry Malliet did some experimental treatment which resulted in his husk form and Morgan’s cure/memory loss/magic issues. To protect themselves from being hunted, he fake their deaths and hid away as a recluse and raising Morgan as Lucy so the city’s magic leaders won’t hunt them down.

[pancat-n-sausage]

if you haven’t read Never Satisfied by @ohcorny, i REALLY recommend it!! with that in mind, this post contains spoilers for chapter 9. please don’t read if you aren’t completely caught up!

so i have a theory about lucy’s past and morgan’s familiar based on some of the clues both within the comic itself and beyond it. i’ll start with the fact that as i was browsing through corny’s call of countershot tag, i came across this post, with these images sticking with me in particular:

i thought it was particularly interesting how lucy’s animal was a black swan — after all, in the comic, lucy doesn’t have a familiar, and if they did, my first assumption would have been a cat like ivy. but as cynthia brandt is also a character in never satisfied, i went to confirm if dr. brandt’s familiar is a beetle. sure enough we see them on her shoulder:

so that makes me wonder if lucy’s familiar would be, or if morgan’s familiar was, a black swan. here’s some evidence i gathered from throughout the comic:

1. Lucy’s name

lucy’s full first name, lucien, actually sounds a lot like le cygne — french for “the swan.” considering their real last name is lapointe, which is also french, the french origins of their name made sense. we also know that lucy doesn’t remember their past as morgan, as well as the event where dr. malliet and morgan “died,” so it’s highly probable that thierry was the one who gave lucy their new name. as morgan got his magic not long before “dying,” —

— this led me to believe that thierry named lucy after morgan’s familiar. moreover, looking up their last name “marlowe” revealed that it means “remnants of a lake,” as though lucy is just a remnant of morgan. swans are often seen in lakes, so maybe that was the reasoning. however, since thierry feels some resentment towards lucy for what happened in the past, this boosts my confidence in theorizing that he named lucy in a way that laments the loss of both morgan and his familiar while also implying that lucy is lesser or incomplete.

2. People can have familiars unique from others of their family.

now if anyone actually reads this post they might be wondering, “no, wait, doesn’t someone’s familiar tend to be the same kind of mammal as everyone else in their family, like with january’s siblings? shouldn’t morgan’s familiar have been a cat or a snake like fidelia’s or lord dubois’?” then i would respond that actually, it’s heavily implied in canon that you can have a unique familiar, like with joe rothart and emilia dubois. we see that january’s dad has a dog familiar while her mother has a chicken:

so regardless of whether joe is a maternal or paternal uncle, it’s likely that his familiar is unique. likewise, fidelia’s familiar is a cat while lord dubois’ is implied to be a snake, but emilia’s familiar is a dog.

so that suggests that it’s more than possible that morgan’s familiar could have been a bird.

3. When Lucy uses magic

in chapter 7, lucy uses ana’s magic against her. the first thing i noticed was how lucy’s vines looked more like rose vines than ana’s, which was foreshadowing of their relation to fidelia (her whole thing is roses!). but did anyone notice how the magic they absorb —

— looks like a bird? right above lucy’s head is the beak, and around them are the wings/feathers. at first i thought it was a peacock, because the distinct lines reminded me of a peacock’s long tail feathers, but now i think it looks like a swan, especially considering the curving neck.

this appears to be even less of a coincidence when we remember the lore about husks. as we learned from tetsu, su-yeong, and thierry, husks lose the ability to reform familiars and take on physical aspects of them instead.

so if lucy’s nature is similar to that of a husk, like broom girl speculates, then morgan’s familiar could have been a swan.

4. (Minor) The store print

this one is less impactful than the other points, but i still think it’s good to consider. in the “Let’s Have Lunch” print, we can see lucy in the back sitting on the wall:

where they seem to be taking the place of one of the birds. i can see that this one may be a bit of a stretch as it’s not exactly clear if those birds are swans — they could be geese, after all. but seeing as corny isn’t afraid of hiding plot points and foreshadowing in sketches, pages, and prints (can you spot piper? how about merrylegs? why is ana really wearing shades?), i think it’s still viable.

tl;dr i think morgan’s familiar was a black swan, and that thierry named lucy with this in mind. i also think that lucy is like a husk in that their relationship with magic prevents them from forming a familiar, though their body retains some sort of “memory” that shows when they use magic.

it’s definitely possible that i’m just over analyzing everything, or if i missed some important evidence that either supports or disproves my theory! but i definitely think that corny is too good of a writer to be taken lightly. so i hope y’all will consider this when reading or re-reading the comic in the future! thanks @ohcorny for writing such a great comic!!!

[varibean]

Comfort or Discomfort: Thierry Rothart

[beesmygod]

this is in reference to something old as hell but is it still weird to be attracted to thierry rothart after him being drawn hot in comic

you misfired big time anon but since you asked, having sex with cartoon characters is illegal and im going to throw you in a lake to see if you are a witch

[enchanted-arms]

When it comes to fictionflickers, do people have various types or categories they could fall under? For example, Thierry Rothart doesn't really feel like a stand alone identiy compared to Kamukura Izuru; if anything Thierry feels as though he adds onto my identity as Howell, or is at least recognized as another version of him. Kamukura on the other hand does feel like a complete identity. He is not tied to anything, he is just this all encompassing feeling that hits me every-once-in-a-while. Both of them ofc are identities I have, but whereas Izuru is like "This is me indisputably" Thierry is more like "This should've been me"

[lou-voiceactor]

The musician turned voice actor Carl Salbacka voices the character Thierry Rothart (amongst others!) in the webcomic dub of Taylor Robin's  Never Satisfied. 

 He sings the song in the background too! 

Follow Carl on Tumblr at: http://sabbacc108.tumblr.com/ 

and listen to his music on: https://soundcloud.com/carl-salbacka 

This is the last of the castreels. Watch the dub tomorrow to see our capable voice actors in action. 

[ohcorny]

If Joe and Thierry were engaged but not yet married, how come Joe’s surname is Rothart?

because it was his name first ???

[zarathustrart]

Hauntober day 16: Unwell

regret to inform you i still love him

[dracoria-azucar]

I’m losing my mind at this update

[masquaves]

started this right after the thierry husk reveal and completely forgot about it -_- it’s about as finished as it’s going to get lmao