#Tekken 8 predictions

[kieloisaplant]

Tekken 8 looking promising rn😍

my prediction for the story mode:

[milk5]

Tekken 8

Legends say that there were unusual people called "Kharakternyks"among the Cossacks. People believed that they originated from ancient pagan magicians who possessed secret knowledge and were even able to predict the future. Some historians maintain that after the adoption of Christianity in Kyivan Rus, pagan magicians were persecuted and moved to the wild steppe where the Zaporizhian Sich was established later. There, Kharakternyks taught warriors martial arts, rituals, and customs.

[dimachina]

tekken 9 predictions?

Tekken 8 was shit but i guess the next one will be good

[burstofastar]

Tekken — Random thoughts

Is it just me, or does anyone else also hate the fact that we got more of Reina than Kazuya in the Tekken 8 storymode? 🤔

Don't get me wrong, while it was interesting to see Kazuya take center stage as the main antagonist (since I think this position was held by Heihachi for basically the entire series, while Kaz was "second"); there was no depth.

The story was based only on the conflict itself, Jin's search for his inner self and the inclusion of Reina, but… and Kazuya? He was just the villain who had to be stopped, like the plot of a predictable play.

There were no flashbacks to his childhood or adolescence; not even something more "recent", like his first meeting with Jun during T2, which I think would have been cool, because truth be told, that part is still a mystery: everything that was built around Kazuya and Jun during T2 is mostly fan headcanons, non-canon installations or a story put together by extra material, but not anything really solid.

The storymode wasn't too bad, but I think not exploring Kazuya more and being more introspective with him was a huge wasted opportunity. Heck, we even had flashbacks of Kazumi from Heihachi's perspective in T7!

And no, don't think I'm forgetting the part about Kazuya having visions of Heihachi while he was facing Lars, because while it added a little (just a little), it wasn't enough (and it was a bit odd and dumb, to be honest).

I hope that in some story DLC expansion they can explore Kazuya in this way… because waiting 10 years for T9 is going to be very long… and disappointing if his story is told just the half.

[smirkingcat]

With Season 1 coming to an end, what are your predictions for Season 2 of Tekken 8?

Since Bryan Fury is already in the game and I'm shoddy at predictions I have no clue hahaha. Noctis was a kind of out of the blue guest character, so I'm curious to see if they have any interesting guest characters brewing.

At the end of the day though, I'm pretty happy with anyone :)

[thedestinysunknown]

Tekken 8 - Bryan Fury:

“Here he is...another predictable character. As I’ve mentioned before, I could have made this gifset yesterday, but the trailer leaked and I wanted to respectable and only make this gifset when the trailer was posted on a main namco Youtube account. Either way, Bryan got the least changes, design wise, but in terms of moveset he got a lot of new moves. Also, his interaction with Paul is brilliant. His rage art is cute, I guess. Nothing special. Overall, he looks fine.”

[soulofamy]

spoilers for tekken 8's story and character endings under the tag! read at your own disgression. these are just my thoughts on it. for transparancy, i likely wont actually be able to purchase and play the game for the foreseeable future so i just watched a playthrough of it instead

so ill start with what i liked. i really liked that, unlike tekken 7, everyone on the roster to some degree was in the main story. i like that a good healthy handful of them even tried their best to aid the efforts against kazuya. it was really nice for me especially to see shaheen get to be cool and heroic. i dont want to hear ANYONE say hes boring ever again, you hear me?

i like the character endings as well, theyre so fun and lighthearted. i liked zafinas and shaheens the most. i surprisingly likes kazuyas and juns too, it makes me think he actually DOES love his wife to an extent. not enough for me to like him as a character unfortunately though lol.

i LOVED angel jin at the end. his design imo was phenominal. i love that they crossed an ethereal, otherwordly monster with a knight and gave him golden angel wings too. it was so visually captivating, i will be looking out for a character sheet to see what distinct features i can point out. i just love that they made an angel design so unique, there was nothing predictable or boring about it.

now things i didnt like

first off, i am SO mad that they killed off zafina AND claudio so early on. they were the two i was most interested to see!! i wanted to see their dynamic together!! but at least zafinas death made a little more sense than claudios. his death did absolutely nothing for the story! i thought maybe that hyper-charged up bolt he shot was going to slowly deteriorate kazuya overtime and weaken him enough that jin could take him one on one or something but NOPE! even zafina i felt didnt need to die. was it ever explained that her life force was connected to azazel? wouldnt it make more sense if she was free to be of MORE use now that azazel isnt holding her back? i never thought i would write tekken fanfiction but they have forced my hand. justice for my faves please </3

they did nothing with leo finding his mother and that makes me sad. its cool we got his dad though, he seems like a cool guy. i wouldnt mind his dad being a new fighter.

steve just kind of dropping the whole thing with nina also upsets me because like if you were going to make the ending to that whole thing so lackluster, why introduce it at all? nina clearly doesnt care and steve just kinda carries on, what was the point? why put nina through such a traumatizing experience of having a child against her will for such little payout?

lastly, i just really could not give two rats toenails about reina im sorry 😭 like visually shes boring. her personality is boring AND annoying. and then they try and make us want more by showing us this heihachi child is ALSO a devil. like i am so tired of the mishima saga that i dont care enough to wonder who her mother is. there are SO many loose ends that havent been tied up yet, i dont want a potential tekken 9 to focus on the mishimas anymore i am on my hands and knees begging

[kristailine]

MY TEKKEN 8 BINGO CARD PREDICTION

Disclaimer: don't take this seriously lmaooo some of these aren't even that well thought of. Let me enjoy making these silly little theories

I'll probably make a separate post to a blank template if anyone wants it

[fgs-n-chill]

EVO '24 PREDICTIONS.

Reblog if you want to!

[alexr-fightgames]

Having a great time at COMBO BREAKER!

If you saw the guy that looks like me, that was probably me!

Competitive games so far...

Killer Instinct! I got demolished by two people who knew how to play KI! I had a good time though. I *almost* hit somebody with Shadow Jago's raging demon. Which would have been sick. He thought he was going to get hit. I still would have lost really hard. Played KI on Friday.

Tekken 8!

I initially thought my pool was on Friday afternoon, but I misread, and it was on Saturday afternoon! That's good, I was a lot better rested on Saturday. I ran Kazuya the entire time.

First match, vs Sensei Zero Mills, who played Law. I won pretty convincingly.

Second match, vs Zed8202, who was running Hwoarang. He kept doing strings with predictable highs, which is a pretty good way to get killed by Kazuya.

Third match, vs Crazyest, who's a really good Raven player. Interestingly, he has a posse of guys who all wear similar baseball-looking jerseys, and he always plays standing up. I put up a pretty good fight, had some good punishes, but I couldn't get a fix on his timings and I got shmixed. First loss.

Fourth match, vs a2brandon, who was running King. He had a posse too, and they were getting pretty hype for his matches. I remember he had cool Potemkin art on his stick. Grappler enthusiast. He put up more of a fight but I got him too!

Fifth match, vs NopeAlope, who played Yoshimitsu... he was quite strong. He got the first two rounds on me; he was doing 3,1 at times when I mostly wasn't ready to slip the second hit. BUT THEN HE ACCIDENTALLY BROUGHT UP THE PS "SHARE" MENU, and the rule is, if you accidentally do something like that, you gotta give up a round. So he was an absolute gentleman and nobody said anything and he just held forward for a round. ... this broke his momentum. I took the next two rounds of that first game, and at that point, I had a fix on his timings and his tendencies for when he liked to do Yoshi flash. So I would get plus frames, just back off, and let him flash -- whiff punish it. Sick. Also I slipped a door knocker.

That was for the burrito. I got out of my first round pool there!

Second round pool, I fought ZiyaBeast, who was running Dragunov, and in the first game I got him so convincingly, I felt like I had this in the bag. But then he started adapting and cleaning up his mistakes. He had been doing predictable highs, and he stopped. He had been going all in, and he switched to a really considered, staggered poke style, and he got me. At one point he did this *perfectly* spaced Dragunov d2, which I'm supposed to be able to launch, but he was just out range -- he did it at a timing that I read, but I didn't expect to be out of range to punish it! Very nice. So he got me in that set.

Out at 4-2. I Got Outta Pools and got my burrito card.

More importantly -- I saw a bunch of friends and hung out with new friends and played a bunch of video games!

Yay COMBO BREAKER! I'll be back tomorrow probably.

[teenysnicotinegum]

I would freaking die for Lee to call Anna ‘lovely lady Williams’ again in Tekken 8 😩.

Just freaking imagine Anna is a model as I predicted and Lee saw her ad and is like ‘Ah the lovely lady Williams I see 😏, excellent 👍’. 

[reneestation2]

Everyone's gonna see another blonde bitch on their feed cause they intersect a lot. (Also I'm only posting this here, because this game is not out yet, and I don't want my ideas to get too much internet traction.) Also I'm gonna assume people are caught up with the Tekken story up to this point.

Leo in Tekken 8!!!!

So Leo has been revealed as base roster for Tekken 8 which is exciting, because they're the character I primarily use. Since there is no individual character trailer for them yet, I'm scrounging up different material to see if somethings are significant enough to warrant certain predictions. So this will basically be some predictions I have about the stories and some evidence to back it up.

1. Development on Emma Kliesen Storyline

First and most obvious is development on Leo's mom, Emma Kliesen. Her unjust murder is the main motive of their presence in The King of Iron Fist Tournament. We know Emma worked in some Devil Gene esearch on behalf of both Heihachi and Kazuya. We also know that Steve (as a child) was a part of these experiments, and Emma smuggled him out and most likely faked his death so that he'd be safe. Leo and Steve meeting to talk about (their, plural lmao) mom would be a great point of dramatic story with little action. Maybe a brotherly bond between the two will emerge??

2. Azucena and Leo's Special Intro

This isn't that big, on the Famdom wiki, there's a link to one of Harada's tweets explaining that Leo does like coffee, but it was rarely, if ever, mentioned. So they just share that bond with each other lmao.

3. Leo and.... Leroy?!?!

Ok, this one is my favorite prediction so far. If it goes in this direction, I'll cry for the rest of my life in the best way possible. So there are some screenshots from the Tekken website and the Press Kit of Leo using moves in-game. They have these for all characters the recently revealed. But the opponents of those characters share some sort of connection, whether it's a rivalry or just a simple commonality. Leo's screenshots have them fight Azucena and Leroy. Now, Leo and Leroy actually have more similarities than at first glance. Both of them are specifically seeking Kazuya to stop him, both of them are well-versed in a Chinese martial art, Leo might currently seek revenge on Kazuya, while Leroy has a satisfied revenge against the gangs of New York, for both having lost family. Leroy could have some sort of guiding role for Leo, whether that be how to fight, or why you fight in the first place, only time will tell. But I really hope they add something really good like that in there.

I also have a couple of predictions on Leo's moveset in Tekken 8, but it's mainly just what could be a Heat Engager or a combo extender, but I'll leave that jargon out.

[gordiepie]

My crazy batshit Tekken 8 guest character prediction

Gentlemen, ladies, non binary folks, and all others… I gather you here today to tell you something that I have been thinking long and hard about.

As you may know, Tekken 8 is out. And as you may know, there is planned dlc. And, like in Tekken 7, Tekken 8’s dlc will have dlc characters.

We have no idea who he or she will be, some say I will be from another fighting game, like Akira from VF or Terry from fatal fury… some say it will be from a popular tv show or movie, such as young Sheldon, or breaking bad… others even say I could be tifa from final fantasy. All these theories, these outcomes, could probibly happen.

But today, I give you something insane, the most chaotic rout Tekken could go when it comes to guest stars. The most batshit insane crossover ever.

Sonic the Hedgehog will be in Tekken 8.

I’m not fucking joking, if you REALLY think about it, and use all of your brain cells, it’s so conceptually STUPID, it could ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

Case in point:

1. IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG- I-I-mean, sonic is really popular right now

Like, really REALLY popular right now, practically in a renaissance right now? With the recent release of sonic frontiers and sonic superstars, the HUGE popularity of idw, and like, the entirety of sonic prime, it just makes sense, sega right now is just like “oh my god, they’re just gunna buy ANYTHING ARE THEY?!??”

And so, ya know what sega sees when sonic is in Tekken? Dollar signs. This reveal will probibly make the fandom CRAZY and profits would go OVER THE ROOF at sega HQ.

“Erm but actually…” you may say “namco says that all the dlc characters are going to have a special character episode in the story, meaning that sonic wouldn’t make sense lore wise, it would be batshit crazy!! uhhhhhhhhh”

Case in point:

2. Tekken is already batshit crazy

Akuma from street fighter is canon to the lore of Tekken. HE IS IN THE STORY MODE OF TEKKEN 7!!! PLUS, this is a fighting game with

1. A boxing kangaroo

2. A bear

3. A space ninja

4. Negan from the WALKING DEAD

5. GEESE FROM FATAL FURY

6. NOCTIS LUCIOUS CAILUM FROM FINAL FUCKING FANTASY

So of COURSE they’re gunna find a way to put sonic in Tekken lore, of course they’re going to do that, AKUMA WAS IN TEKKEN 7 FOR FRICKS SAKE

AAAAAA

Case in point

3. It will boost Tekken’s popularity and bring a whole new audience to the game

I tell you, A LOT of people are going to freak out if he gets in the game, Twitter would shit down for a week, the entire Tekken yt community will have THOUSANDS of videos about sonic, the sonic fandom would go into a chaotic frenzy, everything would go crazy, because SONIC THE BLUE FASTEST HEDGEHOG WILL BE IN TEKKEN FUCKING 8!!!!!

In conclusion, Sonic will be in Tekken 8, I’m right your wrong and no I am not ok thank you for asking. :3

[aryapooja0501]

Tekken 8 Victor New Character Breakdown

 Tekken 8 Victor This mix of borrowed and original moves might make him a bit trickier to predict, adding depth to his gameplay. 

[thedestinysunknown]

Tekken 8 - Feng Wei is Back:

"Oh look, mister Feng Wei is back and he's quite...talkative. It feels weird to see him talk so much, since he's such a quiet character. I think he looks decent. I like his new moves and design. His rage art was quite predictable. Before I saw it, I immediately predicted that he was going to use dragons, like he's Liu Kang. Also, I was expecting to see one of the new characters, aka Reina."

[demonsfate]

Victor's design is cool AF but my god is the sword a bit too much for Tekken, and I LOVE sword/katana wielders. Like I can see why people are saying he's a Noctis replacement, and let's not even talk about his teleporting deal. Some people on 4ch are debating whether Reina will be a Heihachi/Kazumi hybrid without electrics. I also feel like people are expecting too much from her character, but who knows. We will see her soon either way

I actually LOVE Victor's design. I dunno why, but I just have a feeling he's gonna be the best designed Tek8 newcomer. (I have no hopes for Reina LOL) But while I'll get into the "anime" stuff soon into Tekken. I wanna note the reason why it's throwing you off is because when you look at characters like Azazel, you're not surprised by its abilities because it matches its stupid purple chicken design. Victor looks like almost a relatively normal guy, so seeing HIM pull off these crazy cybernetic moves is unpredictable and doesn't match the design. Which may have been intentionally, they may have wanted to subvert expectations. But I'm personally not the biggest fan of it.

And I think I'll take this opportunity to really talk about Tekken and its story, how it changed. Because I'd rather just make one post rather than making a short response agreeing with you, and then doing a follow up! So feel free to read beyond this point or not. :) See... most fans do agree that Tekken 6 is when the game took a turn and became Very Anime. That was the start, and that's another reason why many people are critical of Tek6 beyond its depiction of certain characters. Hence why Azazel came to your mind.

But I actually think Tekken 5 is when the game began developing theses symptoms. Jinpachi was leaning toward "too much," characters that didn't have joke endings before now had joke endings (see Lei and Heihachi) Xiao's awful characterization, and despite Jin still being relatively in character, it did set up Jin's ""villain arc"".

And before I get into how Tekken 6 took this to a whole new level. I just wanted to explain that there is absolutely nothing wrong with anime. When I (and many critical fans) state that we don't like it being "anime," we don't mean in general. Yes, we acknowledge Tekken has always been anime. It's always had anime tropes, designs with spikey hair, and nonhuman characters such as bears, space ninjas, and devils. But the problem lies in when the game began implementing predictable, overused tropes as well as bad writing. People try to use Kuma or the devils as proof the game has always had "wacky" characters that aren't grounded in reality. But if you were to take Kuma's moveset and give it to a large human character, it would still be semi-realistic fighting, and nobody would think much beyond the biting LOL. Kuma may be in the form of a bear, but he doesn't whip out a flashy cybernetic sword, or does he throw his head at people and it explodes. And the devils also practice semi-realistic martial arts, too. The only thing is that they sometimes use a laser and sometimes fly up. Sometimes you can fight a Devil Kazuya or Devil Jin without them even using their devil moves. They don't constantly teleport with flashy effects to the point where you can't even process what's going on. And if you watch Jin in Tekken 4, he's just a traditional karate user. That's it. If you watch Jin in Tekken 8, he now has all these flashy moves and it just takes away from him practicing real karate. HELL, Tekken 4 would have Jin calmly practice karate techniques in a dojo with no background music. It showcased that the game really had a focus on real martial arts. It didn't have to contain flashy effects and images, and Jin screaming while going Super Saiyan, and loud music playing while a war is going on and all that shit.

Tekken before was anime. Tekken now is poorly written anime with no sense of direction.

Back on to Tekken 6. Tekken 6 took the "anime" tropes to a whole new level with both design and writing. First off with what it did to the story of Tekken. Tekken's story was still relatively simple prior 6. It mostly had a focus on the Mishimas familial rivalry and their corrupt business. Because of their corrupt business practices as well as their selfish desire for power, they tend to hurt a handful of people. (Such as Michelle whose father was killed because of these criminal practices.) And with the introduction of Jin Kazama's character, we have a good Mishima whose main story becomes wanting to kill his family because of their corruption. There's also the whole devil gene ordeal Kazuya and Jin struggle with, and how it affects their morals and decisions. That's it.

However, Tekken 6 is when the series' story took a nosedive and became convoluted and over the top. The game is no longer just about a dispute between family, it's now about a MOTHERFUCKING WAR that a 21 year old started and somehow managed to devastate most countries and conquer them without even a nation of his own, just a corporate business. All of this done in less than a year btw. So instead of a handful of people being burned because their family was involved with a company that's comparable to a criminal organization, or people who are investigating the corrupt company because of their not so legal practices... we now have characters who are mad at the Mishimas because they're literally bombing cities, taking over nations, and killing people in the masses. And if that wasn't crazy enough, it turns out this war started because Jin started hearing "voices" in his head of an ancient demon who threatens to destroy the world and Jin thinks his only way to save everyone is by... killing millions of innocents...? Oh and there's the whole maybe getting rid of the Devil Gene, and Government Bad.

See? That plot is just so fucking bizarre, and not in a good way. It's to the point where it's actually incomprehensible. Because even to this day, fans cannot understand Jin's motives due to his wild (un)characterization and motives. 14 years later, fans still discuss whether Jin was the evilest Mishima and was only doing this for selfish reasons (muh devil gene bad) or if Jin was genuinely a good guy who was forced to do Bad Things for Good Reasons. Though, Jin's behavior as a character doesn't help him appear like a good guy who was forced with a tragic dilemma. But you see, the game does nothing to help the case that Jin is actually "good." For no reason, he acts uncharacteristically cruel. In fact, Jin was given opportunities to have the "Save The Cat" moment in 6. What's Save The Cat? It's a method utilized when writing a character with mostly unlikeable traits. It got its name from the trope of a not so good person feeding a stray, or saving a cat from getting hit by traffic. This means to give an "unlikeable character" a moment to show they do have a heart of gold deep down inside. This makes them more sympathetic and likeable to the viewer and helps balance their overwhelming negative traits. Jin never has this moment in 6 despite being written as an anti-hero. There were moments when Jin could've; notably Alisa's death and Miguel's grief could've been Jin's "Save The Cat" moments. He could've felt genuinely sorry that Alisa died for him. But what did he do instead? Call her a worthless piece of junk and act GRATEFUL that she died all while mocking her FRIEND'S pain. And then him giving Miguel the cold shoulder, and even showing no remorse for killing his sister. There is nothing in Tekken 6 indicating Jin is a "good guy" or has any redeemable qualities. Despite not acting like it, Jin just tells us he's good.

Anyway, I don't wanna dwell too much on Jin's characterization as I've made countless posts and have already proven how Jin in Tekken 6 might as well be a totally different character from Jin in the previous games. But I just wanted to bring that up real quick as it is an important part on why the story is so messy and I will bring it up later when talking about the game now being "over the top anime." Other than the overall plot which is too wild, the game also suffered other bad anime tropes that fans didn't like. Such as plot beats like Secret Child we've never heard of, as well as Lars' amnesiac plot. Jin's own story might've been heavily influenced by Code Geass itself, as that was a new and popular anime at the time. Except, whilst I never watched it, I'm gonna assume he developed naturally and had real reason and emotion behind his actions that make sense to the viewers as opposed to Jin whose development wasn't natural, his personality completely changed with little explanation, and his motives didn't make sense no matter how people look into it. But the fact they were heavily inspired by Code Geass but with poor execution is more example of this feeling like a bad anime. Alisa's addition was also heavily criticized by fans due to her appearance. Up until now, despite some characters having spikey hair, we never had any character with unnatural bright colored hair - which that's a HUGE anime trope. Every character had natural hair colors and eye colors (with the exception of Kazuya's one red eye. And Hwoarang's orange hair... but he's a punk who dyes it) So to see a girl with bright pink hair was alarming to some fans. And then her whole moveset... we've had robots like Jack before, but Alisa is a new extreme with how she can shoot her fists, pull off her arms, and throw her head like it's a bomb and somehow regenerate another head. People believed her to be too far fetched, and actually clashing with the Tekken aesthetic up until now. Alisa also felt a bit waifu bait at the time with her polite and usually compliant personality. Lars was also often criticized mostly due to his over the top hair. But Alisa was the start of these "flashier" anime characters.

Even though I actually thought Tekken 7 had a better story than Tekken 6 (but that's not saying much) and I felt it wasn't as generic. But... Tekken 6 was such an open sore that it left a scar on the entire series. Even though I felt Tekken 7 had some improvements in design over Tekken 6, it still continues the predictable anime trends such as Lucky Chloe being a Neko cosplayer. And what's worse is that, aside from main story, now almost every character is a joke. The majority of the endings in Tekken 7 were joke endings. This makes the writing even worse than before.

And finally... I wanted to talk about Tekken 8's story. Despite people's complaints about it being "too anime," there are many that SERIOUSLY believe Jin's gonna be a plot twist villain and Kazuya will be the one to turn around just because Jin was "very bad". These people are trying to form these theories without considering the following. 1) the anime tropes they criticize the modern games for having, and 2) the writers mindset and intentions.

First the anime tropes; this is something that people commonly joke about anime. The guy who killed many innocent people suddenly says he's "sorry" and somehow the main characters forgive him and he's now apart of the Friend Group despite his atrocious crimes. IF Jin's actions from 6 do not get retconned, then this is definitely the route they're taking. Just because Jin's "sorry" and is now trying to do "good", he's forgiven. Yes, the game's still pointing out his sins and Jin's like "I must make amends!111!!111" but it doesn't change the fact that Lars is now clearly buddies with Jin. And yes, I do see Lars maybe having it in his heart to forgive Jin, as many people faced with trauma tend to forgive the ones who hurt them as a healing process. But I don't see Lars becoming friends with Jin... or at the very least, being this friendly toward him. Jin had devastated the world, and caused millions pain... but he's also personally hurt Lars time and time again. It's weird for Lars to be "I'M PROUD OF YOU. :)" to Jin but then all scowling towards Kazuya. Which yes, Kazuya isn't doing anything to redeem himself. But... Jin still personally traumatized Lars more than Kazuya has.

Secondly, the writers intentions. Jin isn't good because of his actions and Kazuya isn't bad because of his actions. They're morality depends on the writers' intentions. The writers want Kazuya to be bad, therefore he's bad. The writers want Jin to be the hero, therefore he's good. It doesn't matter what their actions were, you can't create theories for what direction Tekken 8 goes without considering the writers. Jin ISN'T gonna be a plot twist villain because his actions in 6 appeared villainous. This is because the writers don't view them as villainous. YES, Tekken 8 is definitely acknowledging Jin's actions as "bad". But in the end, the writers are trying to depict it as a necessary evil. You can tell because not only have the game been emphasizing Jin as the "hero" now, but the writers have said in many interviews that this story is about unshackling yourself from the chains that hold you and finding freedom; redeeming yourself and learning to accept yourself. That is Jin's story. They've also made this apparent when they [Harada specifically] referred to Jin as an "almost villain" in Tekken 6 from an interview from last year. This shows that the writers themselves do not view Jin as a "bad guy" despite what the fans think, therefore they wouldn't make him a plot twist villain. In the eyes of the writers, Jin is good because his intentions were to ""save the world,"" and Kazuya is bad because his intentions are "selfish" as he's taking over the world because he wants the "power."

Also stop saying Kazuya should be redeemed but not Jin. Sorry but Kazuya is literally just as a bad as Jin. If you want to say "OH JIN DID DO ALL THOSE ACTIONS LETS IGNORE BAD WRITING YADA YADA" Then you can't go around and say "JIN SHOULD BE MAIN VILLAIN AND KAZUYA SHOULD BE REDEEMED AND DEFEAT HIM IN THE END." Kazuya is just as bad as Jin. Some fans don't think so because Kazuya "didn't start" the war. Which is so silly. It'd be like if a serial killer kills 25 people, and then another serial killer gets inspired and kills 25 people as well. Nobody is gonna say the former is "more evil" because he "started it." They're both gonna be deemed terrible people. Kazuya is perpetuating the war and striving for world domination. People try to say "but Kazuya isn't raining missiles on people like Jin did!!1" and it's like how do you know? Because the game hasn't quite shown that yet? Kazuya has been demonstrated in Tekken 7 to kill many innocent people to get what he wants. Even if it's as petty as making Heihachi look bad. If Kazuya is taking over the world, devastating it, and has all this expensive equipment... I can guarantee he's likely using the same methods Jin did in Tekken 6. Either Jin is also worthy of redemption or neither of them are.

Which brings back my point of how jacked the writing of Tekken 8 may be. The concept is something I highly enjoy; learning to accept yourself and not being afraid to take on your demons. But the issue is... this concept can ONLY work for Tekken 4 Jin or even Tekken 2 Kazuya. It CANNOT work for Tekken 8 Jin or Kazuya. It's why Tek8 Jin NEEDS to be retconned in order for the story and its message to work! There are some things you and other people should never forgive yourself for. Mass murder and war crimes are one of those things. If Jin, however, was just brainwashed (or a devil was in control) to do these actions... then it would fit the story better as Jin has to learn to accept himself, and learn to accept that just because his body was the one to make those choices, doesn't mean he himself was and that he's not responsible. It's guilt he has to learn to let go.

But at this point, I really do fear that the writing just isn't gonna be as competent to do that or pull off a convincing redemption for the character. I think it's highly likely they're just gonna have Jin say "Sorryyyy :(......" and the other characters going "cool." I fear it's gonna suffer the bad mistakes of most recent games' writing. Which is a shame, because Tekken has AMAZING concepts, but it keeps getting wasted and wasted.

And to finish this, I'll also return to something you stated about Victor being "over the top." You've seen Victor's trailer and how he just teleports everywhere and slashes his sword then does a rage art.

Here's a Tekken 3 clip if Jin versus Xiao. Xiao nearly defeats Jin, but Jin makes a major comeback... but not without cheap power moves or weapons but with genuine skill. He chooses the best moves and dodges rather than just pressing a trigger panic button. The fight flows really well too, and there's never any interruptions with a cinematic or rage/heart trigger. And the success of both characters don't feel cheap, they feel genuinely earned. This feels like watching an old martial arts movie. Modern Tekken games feel like you're watching a fight scene from an MCU film. It just feels way more gimmicky with all those bright and flashing effects.