#Tbhk theory

[justobsessedwithvic]

hello lovely people in the tbhk fandom! how are we all doing today?

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Great! So in the chapter 112 leaks, we see this panel with shijima!

here she is! our favorite supernatural artist, looking perfectly alive and healthy! so pretty!

Unlike the other students, she's not wearing a uniform, or a tracksuit like Aoi is. Instead, she's dressed like an adult. I would say a teacher. (also shes lowkey buff now look at her arms) Anyways, she seems really tall, and she's holding a clipboard.

In addition, the students near her are holding up a poster they made, and they look really proud of it. You know what teacher I would show a poster I made to first? an art teacher.

Shijima died years ago, so her current age makes sense, becuase in this reset world, she probably didn't die. (thank god because shes so pretty ajwhgskajshg)

Anyways yeah Shijima is the art teacher at the school. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.

im gonna try not to talk about anything else because if i do i might start sobbing

[elizabethzoopzoop986]

I don’t know how tbhk is gonna end nor do I know what I want to happen to Hanako, Nene and Kou. But what I do know is that Aoi and Akane should get married, and Aoi will be a girlboss millionaire ceo and Akane should be her trophy wife that stays home and raises the 495747 kids there gonna have and if that doesn’t happen I’m gonna riot.

[legend-of-cupcake]

Tsukasa works FOR Sakura

Now this is very likely me just being slow and not connecting the dots until now, but chapter 109 has made me realise that Tsukasa is not the one in charge of the "destroy all yorishiros" plan... It's Sakura.

It's this line here that's made me finally see the light, Tsukasa has to "help Sakura, by destroying the yorishiro." He is not actively desiring the yorishiro to be destroyed, he's just doing his part in the plan. In chapter 106, he wasn't even phased that Nene didn't want to destroy the yorishiro and the only reason he persisted was because it was "his job."

Even way back in chapter 93, Sumire describes Sakura as the one No. 6 serves. Sakura gave him the job of destroying his own yorishiro, not Tsukasa.

Sakura is the one who wants the yorishiros destroyed, she's been trapped inside the school for 100 years and is tired of it. She wants to leave whatever duty is keeping her bound

And she is more than willing to make sacrifices to make her wish come true

Sakura is behind everything, she is the reason that Tsukasa was freed from where he was trapped (very likely Hanako's boundary).

She is also the one altering the rumours.

Tsukasa, as cunning and intelligent as he may be, is probably a bit too impulsive to be the brains behind the entire operation. His intense curiosity for things would likely get in the way, no matter how well he means or how serious he's being.

And again, it's clear Tsukasa is not as invested in destroying the yorishiros as we are initially led to believe. Again, he really doesn't mind that Nene no longer wants to destroy yorishiros anymore

In fact, it's Natsuhiko who worries Nene won't destroy them. Keep in mind Natsuhiko is 100% loyal to Sakura and not necessarily to Tsukasa. If this was Tsukasa's plan, I doubt he would be worrying over whether Nene will keep doing her part as the kannagi

The only reason we even initially thought this was all Tsukasa's doing, was because Sakura painted a picture that she was in a similar situation to Nene.

Sakura gives the impression that she can't go against Tsukasa, that he is her master. But that can't be right, because we know Sakura was the one who appointed the 7 mysteries in the first place. And she was also the one who freed Tsukasa, so how could he be the "master" in this relationship?

I think, Sakura said all this to gain Nene's trust.

Nene, being the modern kannagi, is absolutely vital in the plan to destroy the yorishiros. So having her trust Sakura would help out immensely.

So overall, whether it's the price he's paying for having been freed-- or for some other reason entirely-- it's quite clear to me now that Tsukasa is not the one in charge of the "destroy the 7 mysteries" plan. He's absolutely a major key player, with his cunning and curious mind clearly being an advantage (figured out the fastest and easiest route to stopping time so he could access the clock-keeper's boundary with Nene). But he is doing all of this to help Sakura, it's not for himself.

[chocor0se]

here me out here, we know that past timeline mitsuba isn’t the original mitsuba, who we will refer to a sousuke, which means current timeline is the original (well that timelines version).

kou’s spent a lot more time with mitsuba then sousuke, so they have a bond there. but kou’s never going to forget sousuke, or that they’re not the same person no matter how alike they are.

so i think kou’s going to have to make a decision, just like the one depicted in the panel. he’s going to have to choose getting the original timeline back or keep the current one, which really will translate to choose mitsuba or sousuke

(i would also like to add that his mom and dad also play a role in this too somehow since, you know, they’re actually THERE)

[sleepyjuice-juice]

//TBHK 114 SPOILERS

okay okay imagine

this is kou's perfect tl, right? His family is together, his mom is alive, and not only is Sousuke alive and well, but they are close. First name basis. Sousuke knows that Kou is an exorcist even though he keeps that a secret from his other living friends, Yokoo and Satou. They share some sort of exclusive relationship.

And then... Nene, Akane, possibly Teru (Teru is a wildcard atp - Minamoto mom in the mix complicates his motives), possibly others are trying to revert the timeline, back to the one where absolutely nothing is working out for him. Dysfunctional family, loved ones dying, weight of the world on his shoulders all over again.

I mean, one part of this to analyze is how this affects Kou's character development. In the og tl, he's in a very tough spot in his character development, in which he still feels responsible for everyone else's happiness, always putting others first, always at his own expense. He feels weak and unreliable, but holds himself to such a high standard, because otherwise he doesn't know how to hope. He's barely voiced his insecurities to anyone, besides Mitsuba, and also Teru when they fought during the severance arc.

We don't know how much Kou remembers now, nor the rate he'll remember things, nor how adjusted he really is to this new tl. Because Nene, even though she initially struggled to remember the old tl, she also was foggy on some details about the current tl. And Kou set a table for three instead of 5. So, the question this begs is how displaced is Kou's memory atp?

Alright. Moving on. Depending on these factors... how is his development affected by this? He is in an environment that is fulfilling for him in every way, but it is being threatened to be taken away by people he may or may not remember (doesn't remember Nene yet, status with Akane not confirmed, Teru's motives still in question)

And even if he does remember, how will he react? He has everything he's ever wanted, and it's real this time, unlike in picture perfect. Will he finally put his own wishes first, or will he relinquish a life that's better for him, his family, Sousuke, and so many more? And would that really be selfish of him to decide, if this timeline is objectively healthier?

It's suggested that one of the Yugi twins even grew up to be one of Tsuchigomori's colleagues, likely Amane. If he thought about it, Kou could argue that if Nene loves Hanako/Amane, she would choose the world that he got to grow up in instead of the one where he dies prematurely. It's even hinted that Aoi still likes Akane despite her engagement to Teru, so, logically he'd have a really good argument against everyone opposing the new tl, right?

But... it's not his story. We know he's more than likely going to have to lose this life. Lose his loved ones all over again

And of course... to choose Sousuke Mitsuba, he has to unchoose Mitsuba No. 3. Which is another ooooof biiiig storm coming

It's gonna hurt me, I know. I'm just SO goddamn invested in how this is going to play out

[noahxeditz]

TBHK THOERY PT.2

Amane Yugi was never bullied, he was getting hurt by the clock which he couldn't tell Tsuchigomori about due to the fact that no one is meant to be touching the clock.

Amane was so determined to get the clock moving by the end of the year that he didn’t care if he was hurting himself.

Now we can say that Tsukasa is the reason Amane is fixing the clock due to the fact that Tsukasa tells Nene about No.1's power.

Also asking her if she wants to still learn about Amane and telling her to come play with him again if she does.

Now this is where it's a bit blurry, cause Tsukasa KNEW the clock keeps would create a new timeline so then Nene COULD play with him once again. However the problem is that, what was the game?

Trying to get out of the pit? Cause if so, Nene will lose due to the fact she no longer has her fish form.

Or maybe it was traumatising Kou with his wishes? Or maybe it was the fact someone actually came, to see him and wanted to learn about him and Amane.

Tbh, I’m still not sure myself… but anyways.

I didn't forget the fact that I said that "Tsukasa remembers Nene" cause in reality. He does, we don't know why or how but from The Tea Party arc.

Tsukasa is asking her questions as if he know Nene liked Amane.

When he hears that Nene doesn't, he takes Nene to the everywhere and nowhere boundary where Nene mets Amane for the first time and this is when Amane loses his keys.

Running out of the room.

Now if you look at the date, this was 4 days BEFORE Amane gives Tsuchigomori the moon rock.

Now this was on a Friday so for Monday and Tuesday. Amane was hard at work, trying to fix the clock. Which is why his wounds are worse than before in Tsuchigomori's flashback.

(I am still working on this theory so please, if you have anything to add. Please do tell!! <3)

[professional-idiots]

I JUST NOTICED SOMETHING IN THE CLOCK KEEPERS ARC!!!!

Now, it’s very possible everyone else has already seen this, but for me it was a breakthrough.

So, I was rereading tbhk the other day when I got to the clock keepers arc and I was sort of laughing to myself because Future Kou is wearing a cropped leather jacket. I just thought it was silly that his clothes would change with his time moving forward WHEN I SAW:

Are you seeing what I’m seeing?! This man has a whole RING around his neck. Here’s a closer look:

This is so strange to me because AidaIro are not the type to just add something in for ✿fun✿, so it has to be important somehow…. Especially since they took the time to draw it into every innocuous scene that he’s in. Like it’s always in plain view….. I’m so curious where he got it from and I feel like not enough people are acknowledging its existence.

(I really want it to be some sort of promise ring situation with Mitsuba!!!!!)

I’m so floored by this it’s actually crazy…

[yugiamaneisdead]

Yugi Amane Isn't Supposed to Live

Other than my False Mystery Hanako theory/AU, I have another. That Yugi Amane's death is a set in stone event. Like think of time as being able to be changed, like by the Clock Keepers, but with certain points that cannot, at least not without disrupting the natural flow of time and events.

I believe Amane's death was one of these events. Everything around it can be changed, but he will be dead at 13. There's something extremely important about the event of his death besides the creation of Hanako, and by changing the timeline to one where Amane never dies, they've avoided something pivotal. Something that cannot and should not be avoided.

And thus, they've caused a rip.

One minute he's there, and then, with no sudden sound, everything has reverted. It's a storage room with no teacher inside. The universe trying to reset itself, to get rid of what is essentially an extreme anom9ly, an impossibility. Amane is supposed to be dead, and his continued and sudden existence rebels against time itself.

Granted, Tsukasa did say the time was 'unstable', and Yashiro says this could be from a past timeline, which I agree with. It's definitely the past timeline leaking into this one. But what's important is what 'unstable' means in this context.

Is it unstable as in multiple timelines can mush together? Or is it unstable because it's able to fix itself with time as it is?

However, it's also important not to put too much weight in Tsukasa's words. Though he doesn't lie very often, he does twist his words and purposefully be misleading, as well as the fact that JSHK is no stranger to having characters just be outright wrong about certain things.

Evidence for this is the fact that upon seeing Amane as a teacher, this is the FIRST TIME any timeline differences have presented themselves. If it were about the festival itself, and nothing else, there would've been more inconsistencies with events. More people appearing and disappearing, more places changing, etc. But there's not. It only happens when Yashiro sees and, noticeably, speaks to Amane.

I believe that what this is, is time itself (personified, for the sake of easier explanation) is attempting to fix the removal of a stationary event. The Clock Keepers removed this unmovable event, and using the time instability, it is perhaps being all focused on fixing Amane's existence. Any existence and interaction with him must be erase, because he should not be alive.

JSHK puts forth the lesson that death is both unavoidable and unchangeable, in the forms of Yashiro's lifespan, Mitsuba's car accident, Hanako's suicide, and Tsukasa's murder. Writing wise, suddenly bringing forth the ability to change people's deaths with time powers would be unwise, and make a lot of the past efforts of characters seem futile.

Also writing wise, JSHK has put so much emphasis on Hanako's death being an unchangeable fact that never doing something with that unchangeable aspect would be a waste.

And lastly, Hanako is, himself, a deeply tragic character. Seemingly destined to die young by countless fates.

If Tsukasa didn't go into the pit, he would be dead before double digits by that sickness. Tsukasa does exist, and there's nothing yet to imply that the sickness was the influence of a supernatural, so Amane would be dead, and there would be no pit to save him. Specifically the entity in that pit was destroyed.

So without the pit and wish to save him, Amane was going to die young anyway. So logically, in a timeline without the pit, he would've been dead much younger than 13, let alone a teacher.

And the ages don't quite line up, do they? He was 13 in 1969, and at current time in the manga, that's over 50 years later. He should not be a 20 something looking adult.

Because of the Clock Keepers interference, they've made several impossibilities, all hinging on the fact that Amane should not live past 13. 13 is, after all, an unlucky number (The Last Supper, 2012 Apacolypse date, the "successful failure" of Apollo 13 one year after Amane's death [another space reference], as well as many people thinking it represents 'death').

His death is, seemingly, far more important than his life, and necessary for time itself.

[pixelatedtaken]

What a fascinating thing it is to re-read something.

A while back, I had a theory about Kou and Yashiro messing with the timeline. More specifically, putting in motion the events of the yugi twins lives. That was back in December 2021, and I never ended up posting that theory. (it's still in my drafts)

The reason I'm bringing it up is because of recent events in the manga and a little theory of what the clock keepers changed.

Spoilers

It's fairly obvious that Hanako or Amane, more precisely, never killed Tsukasa, meaning that the 4 years old Tsukasa that Kou and Yashiro met in the red house never went back.

If it hasn't clicked yet...

I think the clock keepers changed a present type of event rather than a past one. Since Tsukasa in the new present still seems to be possessed and Amane lived beyond his 13 years old self (and got possessed as well wtf), it means that they never changed the event of Amane killing Tsukasa because it never happened. No, they changed Kou and Yashiro ever meeting toddler Tsukasa in the red house.

Tsukasa returned because Kou told him that Amane died at 13 and killed him as well. If the event of Yashiro and Kou going in the house had never happened in the first place, then the young boy would never go back. And in the new present, he didn't. Something else is going on with the both of them [Tsukasa, Amane] this time around, sure, but I do believe that at least one of the core things the clock keepers changed was that meeting in the red house.

Don't think I'm the first one to point this out. I just have a wack timing for it since I keep these things to myself.

[certified3nakin]

TBHK spoilers; don't read unless you're caught up with the manga.

Why have, at least from I've seen, most people in the fandom forgotten about Kou's desire/contemplation on becoming a supernatural?

In the far shore arc, after the Severance, it's is shown that Kou had a conversation with Natsuhiko regarding this topic, though we don't actually see the conversation. He's asked Teru what he thinks of Kou himself becoming a supernatural. He also seems to pick up on the information that eating a supernatural makes you become one.

I know this arc was around a year ago but I feel like it was either

An unessassary plot point that was scrapped OR

foreshadowing

I feel like, once we get back to the main timeline, that will probably be Kou's main conflict (after everything with Mitsuba dying AGAIN is resolved. Though, we don't know if he's actually dead or just in pieces like at the aquarium.)

I really hope this plot point gets brought up again because if not I'll feel like an idiot :3

[royakahoshiart]

okay fine. I need people to know this.

I feel like most tbhk fans are Christian from America and Europe. So they probably don't really think about the religion in tbhk but it actually has such a big role.

I'll get straight to the point, all of tbhk (or at least main charactes and the plot) is revolved around the worship of Kami ( 神 ) gods, spirits and supernaturals alike.

ThE most obvious ones are the seven mysteries themselves, yako in a kitsune (litterally fox) a fox spirit/yokai whom like to pull pranks of humans either by shaoeshifiting, seducing or even killing at points, this can be seen in yako's sort of cocky personality. Yako is more specifically an Inari statue of an Inari temple for the goddess of agriculture, they say it protects crops and foxes.

Tsuchigomori is a tsuchigomo (literally earth spider) it's a giant spider who can be at least as tall as 10 meters. In one story, minamoto no yorimitsu (or raiko) killed one and had found multiple skulls inside, obviusly implying that the creature eats humans.

Hakubo is an Oni, a general word for demonic creatures in Japanese, thought I can't pin point which exact one. Another story involving yorimitsu is the drunken demon, when hakubo was found by the exorcist he said to have given the biggest Oni poisoned sake, as the real story says that three old men gave yorimitsu and his men sake that revealed the oni's real appearance but didn't hurt humans because he prayed at 3 nearby shinto shrines, and later slashed his neck like in the original text.

Hanako is straightforward but it is different in almost all prefectures of japan.

The gist of it is that hanako was a little girl who died either by herself of by her classmates in the girls bathroom around 5-10 years old. She can grant your wish but is you make her angry she'll curse you with a painful and slow death that'll happen very soon. One prefecture even says that she died in the nuclear blast during the last years of ww2.

Im not sure where nº3, nº1 and nº4 come from.

Now Onto the more subtle details, you might ask "hold up Roy, but Japanese buddhisim is very in touch with supernaturals aswell, how do you know if it's japanese buddhisim or shinto?"

Well let's talk about the minamotos. As you might've read, yorimitsu killed many yokais, so he would be called an exorcist where now are kou and teru, the staff kou has is real and is in some temples, teru's bracelet wards off evil spirits in shinto (rather not talk about the Buddhist thoughts on it....) .well teru's blade is obviously not real as a sword like that would've been impractical.

The temple where Teru and Akane go during the severance is a shinto shrine, we can see this from the Torii gates and the architecture as well. The workers at the temple are also not bald therefore they aren't Buddhist monks. It was also very customary to serve tea to the visitors. On the front gate of the shrine there at this 'weird Rope' with papers attached on it, it's on most temples and its a direct reference to a story involving amaterasu , the sun goddess, wich i wont get into.

The train to the farshore is actually a story itself and the place being full of water isn't just an artistic choice but it rapresents the river to the farshore.

Haha wow this is all to conviniet, yeah I believe in shinto bye I'm writing this in the fucking school bathrooms. Need to start school soon bye.

[questioning-transmasc]

fuck happy endings toilet boy manga (tbhk) is gonna end with like half the cast returning to the original timeline except nene and everyone who was doomed by the narrative from the start is going along with her so everyone dies and then the other half is gonna forget all about their friends and it's gonna mentally kill the readers (it already has but that's not the point)

[thelunarfairy]

hi

I like your theories 😊

I want to ask you, if hanako had tsukasa yourishiro protect him , why wasn't he with him inside the border 😓

Hello, thank you very much 🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡

Hanako seemed more intent on "trapping" Tsukasa, not letting him escape until he managed to save his younger brother. Like he wanted to do with Nene in the PP arc.

Apparently this took a long time, as Tsukasa mentioned

So he decided to go out on his own and make his own choices.

Hanako was shocked at their first meet, as if he didn't really expect Tsukasa to "escape" one day.

In the end, I believe they talked secretly and made a deal, with the two of them working together.

I imagine that Hanako found a solution to save Tsukasa, which would be with that wish, but to make the wish, he would have to remove Tsukasa's seal and he would disappear

So, Hanako must have given up at some point and was looking for another solution.

[legend-of-cupcake]

Amane Started Tsukasa's Rumour

Maybe I am totally wrong on this, but this beginning scene of chapter 113 is so suspicious to me. Amane is smirking while hearing students calling out his dead brother's name in a silly ritual, you wouldn't be like that unless this is something you actually wanted. Not to mention: how would those girl's know Tsukasa's name unless someone close to him started the rumour? I think, potentially, Amane regained his memories of the other timeline. If Nene can remember entirely on her own (Teru gets a pass as a strong exorcist), then who's to say Amane didn't remember as well? An Amane who remembers would understand how powerful rumours were in the supernatural world... An Amane who remembers would do anything to be with his brother, even commit suicide. But if that no longer becomes an option due to the interference of the clock-keepers, the next best thing will be keeping Tsukasa around through the rumours at school.

After all, this is the same guy who is 100% on board for trapping loved ones.

Maybe this is why he's even a teacher in the first place, so he can still have a reason to be at that school long after graduation. So he could still be with Tsukasa.

And sure, I know this is stretching quite a bit and entirely banks on Amane remembering. Nene has been shown time and time again to be special, so maybe that's why she remembers, so perhaps it's not fair to hold Amane to the same standard. Which is why I have also considered it is potentially Sakura who is keeping Tsukasa's rumour alive.

She's the only one we actively see creating and manipulating rumours (aside from Nene) for her own benefit. She needs Tsukasa (who is the host for the old god) to grant her wish, and he can't do that if he's been disposed of in some manner by the clock-keepers. Perhaps she can't save him, but can preserve him through the rumours until the present day.

Or maybe there's some other explanation entirely for Tsukasa's rumour, I'm not sure but it's fun theorising! I wonder if the rumour survived to the present? What we're being shown was long before Nene was probably even born... Hmm...

[chocor0se]

why do i feel like kou knows what’s happening or at least has a sense of what’s going on he just wants to be there for mitsuba who’s finally alive again….

[elizabethzoopzoop986]

GUYS I THINK YUGI AMANE IS ACTUALLY HANAKO!!!!!!!!!

I know I know… little far fetched

But here me out first LOOK AT THEM:::::

So similarrrrrrrr. Tscuhi even says “you never change” sus

Plus they both have an identical twin named Tsukasa. Even more sus

Now this is a little far fetched, but Hanako died in 1960s and Amane lived in the 60s

I know I know it’s crazy tho and probably not true just wanted to put it out there