#Tbhk theory

[adenomors]

Talking about Minamoto Mom

[tbhk spoilers ahead]

Why is she alive in the new timeline? The clock keepers only changed one thing in the past, the major effects being on the seven wonders and the entity under the red house. Minamoto Mom died of an illness, and unless I missed some important detail, it had nothing to do with the supernatural. She should have died of that illness in the new timeline, but she didn't. Something else must've been involved. Someone must've lied to the Minamoto children about her death, or at least refrained from telling the entire truth.

[depressed-orchids]

We all know “the look” that kou gets around mitsuba right

Im talking about this

He gets this look only when looking at mitsuba not even around nene

Its this like almost sad knowing look. Like he knows if he even looks away something could happen. But its also really innocent like he has this special wonder when he looks at mitsuba

And when he doesn’t look surprised his eyes have so much detail, in most panels his eyes are the smallest and simplest but around mitsuba they glow!

His eyes are so wide this boys not even trying to hide the fact that he is head over heels over this ghost😭

[teruwasright]

Ok since the new tbhk chp comes out in like 2 days I'm gonna make a final prediction that came into my head JUST INCASE IM RIGHT-

ok so what if...Teru villain arc?

[katythetbhkfan]

The seven mysteries are over powered :

No.1 are actual gods of time, even Akane's powers are crazy.

No.2 can bring you to anywhere and can make people into dolls.

No.3 can see what happened anytime in front of the mirrors, which is like basically a record of everything.

No.4 makes fake worlds and can make anything she draws become real.

No.5 has books of every student ever been in the school and can see past and future.

No.6 is the life and death God( which we haven't seen yet).

No.7 can grants wishes although not very affective(but we haven't seen his full ability yet so we'll have to wait and see).

[sakuraswifee]

Small and probably meaningless theory that somebody has probably already thought of!!

I'm gonna get straight to the point since I don't really need a big post since the theory is self-explanatory

Hanako of the opera AU ends with Kou and Mitsuba basically running away from the opera (or to be fair, Kou kidnapping Mitsuba💀)

Then we get this in chapter 118, which is basically Mitsuba saying, "Hey my platonic friend, let's run away together in a platonic way so that we can forget that we're doomed asf(platonically)".

The panel shows a train. They could've drawn snacks or silly stuff, but they chose a train?? What's the only other time a train has shown up in tbhk?

To finish off, Kou has been hinted at becoming a supernatural multiple times. One of my favorite examples is the Ghost Hotel AU..

...it's canon that in this AU exorcists are still a thing, because Teru is one...but Kou isn't one? And what does Teru say he's doing in this AU? Searching for his little brother.

Honestly, seems like foreshadowing lol

(And btw, as a fandom, we ignore HOTO way too much)

[sleepyjuice-juice]

//TBHK 114 SPOILERS

okay okay imagine

this is kou's perfect tl, right? His family is together, his mom is alive, and not only is Sousuke alive and well, but they are close. First name basis. Sousuke knows that Kou is an exorcist even though he keeps that a secret from his other living friends, Yokoo and Satou. They share some sort of exclusive relationship.

And then... Nene, Akane, possibly Teru (Teru is a wildcard atp - Minamoto mom in the mix complicates his motives), possibly others are trying to revert the timeline, back to the one where absolutely nothing is working out for him. Dysfunctional family, loved ones dying, weight of the world on his shoulders all over again.

I mean, one part of this to analyze is how this affects Kou's character development. In the og tl, he's in a very tough spot in his character development, in which he still feels responsible for everyone else's happiness, always putting others first, always at his own expense. He feels weak and unreliable, but holds himself to such a high standard, because otherwise he doesn't know how to hope. He's barely voiced his insecurities to anyone, besides Mitsuba, and also Teru when they fought during the severance arc.

We don't know how much Kou remembers now, nor the rate he'll remember things, nor how adjusted he really is to this new tl. Because Nene, even though she initially struggled to remember the old tl, she also was foggy on some details about the current tl. And Kou set a table for three instead of 5. So, the question this begs is how displaced is Kou's memory atp?

Alright. Moving on. Depending on these factors... how is his development affected by this? He is in an environment that is fulfilling for him in every way, but it is being threatened to be taken away by people he may or may not remember (doesn't remember Nene yet, status with Akane not confirmed, Teru's motives still in question)

And even if he does remember, how will he react? He has everything he's ever wanted, and it's real this time, unlike in picture perfect. Will he finally put his own wishes first, or will he relinquish a life that's better for him, his family, Sousuke, and so many more? And would that really be selfish of him to decide, if this timeline is objectively healthier?

It's suggested that one of the Yugi twins even grew up to be one of Tsuchigomori's colleagues, likely Amane. If he thought about it, Kou could argue that if Nene loves Hanako/Amane, she would choose the world that he got to grow up in instead of the one where he dies prematurely. It's even hinted that Aoi still likes Akane despite her engagement to Teru, so, logically he'd have a really good argument against everyone opposing the new tl, right?

But... it's not his story. We know he's more than likely going to have to lose this life. Lose his loved ones all over again

And of course... to choose Sousuke Mitsuba, he has to unchoose Mitsuba No. 3. Which is another ooooof biiiig storm coming

It's gonna hurt me, I know. I'm just SO goddamn invested in how this is going to play out

[justobsessedwithvic]

hello lovely people in the tbhk fandom! how are we all doing today?

"......."

Great! So in the chapter 112 leaks, we see this panel with shijima!

here she is! our favorite supernatural artist, looking perfectly alive and healthy! so pretty!

Unlike the other students, she's not wearing a uniform, or a tracksuit like Aoi is. Instead, she's dressed like an adult. I would say a teacher. (also shes lowkey buff now look at her arms) Anyways, she seems really tall, and she's holding a clipboard.

In addition, the students near her are holding up a poster they made, and they look really proud of it. You know what teacher I would show a poster I made to first? an art teacher.

Shijima died years ago, so her current age makes sense, becuase in this reset world, she probably didn't die. (thank god because shes so pretty ajwhgskajshg)

Anyways yeah Shijima is the art teacher at the school. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.

im gonna try not to talk about anything else because if i do i might start sobbing

[noahxeditz]

TBHK THOERY PT.2

Amane Yugi was never bullied, he was getting hurt by the clock which he couldn't tell Tsuchigomori about due to the fact that no one is meant to be touching the clock.

Amane was so determined to get the clock moving by the end of the year that he didn’t care if he was hurting himself.

Now we can say that Tsukasa is the reason Amane is fixing the clock due to the fact that Tsukasa tells Nene about No.1's power.

Also asking her if she wants to still learn about Amane and telling her to come play with him again if she does.

Now this is where it's a bit blurry, cause Tsukasa KNEW the clock keeps would create a new timeline so then Nene COULD play with him once again. However the problem is that, what was the game?

Trying to get out of the pit? Cause if so, Nene will lose due to the fact she no longer has her fish form.

Or maybe it was traumatising Kou with his wishes? Or maybe it was the fact someone actually came, to see him and wanted to learn about him and Amane.

Tbh, I’m still not sure myself… but anyways.

I didn't forget the fact that I said that "Tsukasa remembers Nene" cause in reality. He does, we don't know why or how but from The Tea Party arc.

Tsukasa is asking her questions as if he know Nene liked Amane.

When he hears that Nene doesn't, he takes Nene to the everywhere and nowhere boundary where Nene mets Amane for the first time and this is when Amane loses his keys.

Running out of the room.

Now if you look at the date, this was 4 days BEFORE Amane gives Tsuchigomori the moon rock.

Now this was on a Friday so for Monday and Tuesday. Amane was hard at work, trying to fix the clock. Which is why his wounds are worse than before in Tsuchigomori's flashback.

(I am still working on this theory so please, if you have anything to add. Please do tell!! <3)

[elizabethzoopzoop986]

I don’t know how tbhk is gonna end nor do I know what I want to happen to Hanako, Nene and Kou. But what I do know is that Aoi and Akane should get married, and Aoi will be a girlboss millionaire ceo and Akane should be her trophy wife that stays home and raises the 495747 kids there gonna have and if that doesn’t happen I’m gonna riot.

[legend-of-cupcake]

Tsukasa works FOR Sakura

Now this is very likely me just being slow and not connecting the dots until now, but chapter 109 has made me realise that Tsukasa is not the one in charge of the "destroy all yorishiros" plan... It's Sakura.

It's this line here that's made me finally see the light, Tsukasa has to "help Sakura, by destroying the yorishiro." He is not actively desiring the yorishiro to be destroyed, he's just doing his part in the plan. In chapter 106, he wasn't even phased that Nene didn't want to destroy the yorishiro and the only reason he persisted was because it was "his job."

Even way back in chapter 93, Sumire describes Sakura as the one No. 6 serves. Sakura gave him the job of destroying his own yorishiro, not Tsukasa.

Sakura is the one who wants the yorishiros destroyed, she's been trapped inside the school for 100 years and is tired of it. She wants to leave whatever duty is keeping her bound

And she is more than willing to make sacrifices to make her wish come true

Sakura is behind everything, she is the reason that Tsukasa was freed from where he was trapped (very likely Hanako's boundary).

She is also the one altering the rumours.

Tsukasa, as cunning and intelligent as he may be, is probably a bit too impulsive to be the brains behind the entire operation. His intense curiosity for things would likely get in the way, no matter how well he means or how serious he's being.

And again, it's clear Tsukasa is not as invested in destroying the yorishiros as we are initially led to believe. Again, he really doesn't mind that Nene no longer wants to destroy yorishiros anymore

In fact, it's Natsuhiko who worries Nene won't destroy them. Keep in mind Natsuhiko is 100% loyal to Sakura and not necessarily to Tsukasa. If this was Tsukasa's plan, I doubt he would be worrying over whether Nene will keep doing her part as the kannagi

The only reason we even initially thought this was all Tsukasa's doing, was because Sakura painted a picture that she was in a similar situation to Nene.

Sakura gives the impression that she can't go against Tsukasa, that he is her master. But that can't be right, because we know Sakura was the one who appointed the 7 mysteries in the first place. And she was also the one who freed Tsukasa, so how could he be the "master" in this relationship?

I think, Sakura said all this to gain Nene's trust.

Nene, being the modern kannagi, is absolutely vital in the plan to destroy the yorishiros. So having her trust Sakura would help out immensely.

So overall, whether it's the price he's paying for having been freed-- or for some other reason entirely-- it's quite clear to me now that Tsukasa is not the one in charge of the "destroy the 7 mysteries" plan. He's absolutely a major key player, with his cunning and curious mind clearly being an advantage (figured out the fastest and easiest route to stopping time so he could access the clock-keeper's boundary with Nene). But he is doing all of this to help Sakura, it's not for himself.

[sunnysunsins]

The house entity possession theory and what did Clock Keepers change

Okay so, after the most recent chapter i had an epiphany of what the Clock Keepers changed. But that requires a bit of setup, which leads to possession theory.

So we know for sure, after Tsukasa sacrificed himself for Amane to be cured from his illness and let him live, Tsukasa came back a little demon. As in, the house entity possessed him (seeing how he managed to grant the wish of the shrine dude.. and well, how he acted like a little demon to the point his mom took him to the shrine)

And we know little Tsukasa now has the knowledge that Amane would kill him in the future (thanks, Kou). So. Entity takes over him and now has this knowledge too. "Oh, we're gonna get killed? Neat, we'll become a supernatural and will have ghost powers, that's even better, let's do this". And now Tsukasa starts tormenting Amane, trying to get him to snap and kill him. Slowly getting more and more violent, and Amane keeps letting him. (Maybe he found out about what Tsukasa did for him, somehow?)

Eventually managing to get that wish. Personal theory on what happened - Tsukasa killed his parents. Probably in a horrific way. Which made Amane finally snap and kill him, then himself, and burn the house down. (see: that one cover where Hanako is on one side and in the mirror shards Amane is bleeding out with fire around him), which lead to them both becoming ghosts, just like entity wanted.

So, what does that lead to? Clock Keepers found out during trial that Tsukasa is behind the whole thing, destroying the clock, making supernaturals go insane, the whole shabang. So what do they do?

They make sure he never comes back.

In the new timeline, Tsukasa never came back after sacrificing himself to the house entity. He only came back because future Kou accidentally slipped up and told him about Amane killing him. So with that change, entity doesn't know about them becoming a supernatural, nor do they torment Amane for it.

Which means Amane gets to live, become a teacher, and enjoy life. Until one point somewhere in his 30s. When the house entity takes over him, hungry for "gifts". Just like it took over Tsukasa in our timeline.

That's why in this new chapter he talks exactly like Tsukasa in our timeline does. Jokey, violent, no remorse, finding fun in all the killings that he's done.

It's the entity talking. Amane here has the same eyes as Tsukasa when he's being a demonic little shit. Completely black.

And this bit could be both this timeline and/or our timeline entity talking. Honestly, it's either/or. Both fit. What's clear, is that it's the entity talking through Amane as a vessel. Just like it did with Tsukasa in our timeline.

So, what does Nene need to change? Make Tsukasa come back? Get him to find out he's gonna die by Amane's hand? Both? What's important, the house entity needs to possess Tsukasa, to lead to the events of our timeline.

And perhaps we'll see what actually happened that day, finally.

P.S.: side-theory for yall. Since she'll have to come back to when the twins were 4, i think she'll be the reason Amane finds "the moon rock". Maybe scrambling to hide, so he doesn't see her, and accidentally making a rock fall in front of him.

[chocor0se]

here me out here, we know that past timeline mitsuba isn’t the original mitsuba, who we will refer to a sousuke, which means current timeline is the original (well that timelines version).

kou’s spent a lot more time with mitsuba then sousuke, so they have a bond there. but kou’s never going to forget sousuke, or that they’re not the same person no matter how alike they are.

so i think kou’s going to have to make a decision, just like the one depicted in the panel. he’s going to have to choose getting the original timeline back or keep the current one, which really will translate to choose mitsuba or sousuke

(i would also like to add that his mom and dad also play a role in this too somehow since, you know, they’re actually THERE)

[depressed-orchids]

Yall i miss silly tbhk:(

I miss when i started watching the anime in 2022 and i though the anime was the craziest coolest best animated thing i had seen

Then i decided i couldnt wait for season 2 so i read the manga which at that point went up to right before the severance (if im right)

And i was silly and about a girl and her silly crush getting herself in a deal with a silly ghost who protcted her and yeah mitsukou has always been sad but it wasn’t like so hopeless like it is now.

I want my silly high school accult/gay(im looking at you mitsuba) manga that i read for the good feels

Why does everything need to be doomed why cant we have nice things 🥲

(I know its for the plot guys im not saying i dont like the story im just saying maybe we lay of the literal middle/high schoolers and give them a chance at relaxation and a normal school life ((with hanako!! Im not forgetting him)) but nooooo we need the overworked brother to see his brother dead in a well)

Also i just realized when was the last time that hanako was actually really talked about, and i mean as hanako

Anywayss have an awesome day/night lovelys thanks for listening to me ramble:)

Also no im not stupid im just to lazy to go back and correct spelling mistakes

[trurebellion]

TBHK ch. 121 spoilers //

I’m just going to pretend that everything that’s happening in this arc is the Clock Keepers’ fault.

There’s no way Yugi Amane was forced to kill his entire family, burn down his home, at the age of 12 because he ends up being a serial killer that feeds souls to his home because he stayed there so long. There’s no way he preys on his students and uses them as food. There’s no way that regardless of what he does, he will forever have blood on his hands. I refuse to believe that Hanako has such a sad ending that death really is the best option for him and Tsukasa.

This is all the Clock Keepers’ fault. I am in denial.

[adenomors]

Aoi Akane after the old timeline is restored — theory

TBHK SPOILERS UNDER THE CUT!!

Let me start by saying that Aoi, Akane, and Teru definitely died in the red house. If they were alive, they would've followed Nene out of the house. There'd be no reason to stay; that explosion would surely buy all four of them enough time to get to the big clock. Nene wouldn't have kept running away without them.

But not to worry! They'll still come back when the old world returns!!

Most of them would, at least. Akane may not. Unlike the other characters, Akane is not from the new world. He's like a visitor, a replacement of the "other" him. The other characters are alternate versions of themselves that are from the new world, and that belong there. They have all of their memories from the new timeline, and the ones that remember the old timeline only do so through dreams. They only knew that those said dreams were real because of outside confirmation.

I like to believe that what happened to Mitsuba in the old world is similar to what happened to everyone when the alteration was made: their souls were taken from the old timeline, and when they were born in the new timeline, those souls were put into new bodies. Bodies that looked and behaved the exact same, but were still different. This did not happen to Akane.

(For some reason, Teru is also an exception to this. Not only did he immediately regain his memories of the old world during the school festival, but he doesn't remember anything from the new world. It's probably because he was in the clock keeper's boundary while the alteration was made, because Nene was in the boundary and also doesn't seem to remember anything from the new world — she stopped remembering after she got her memories of the old world, at least. But it gets weird when you add Hanako and Tsukasa into the equation. Do they also remember?)

Anyways, there is a definite reason for a new version of Akane not being made. He's one of the clock keepers! Kako and Mirai were going to "travel to the past, alter the course of events, and remain dormant in the clock until a new present is certain" (to quote directly from the manga). I think it's pretty obvious that new versions of them weren't made, so why would it be any different for Akane? Especially because the school mysteries aren't even supposed to exist in the new timeline, but Akane can still use his wonder powers. (His powers didn't work in the screenshot I took, but that's because it was in the red house. My point is that he has access to them.)

Even if the other characters died in the new world, they still have their alternate bodies in the old world that their souls would return to. Even Kou, who was exorcized, still has his soul in the far shore. However, if Akane is the exact same version of himself in every universe, he wouldn't have a body that he left in the old world for his soul to return to.

Which means, if he were dead, there would be no Aoi Akane that returns in the old world.

So do I think Akane will be gone forever?

No. I think Akane will return to the old world entirely as a supernatural, rather than part-human like he used to be. He already has a supernatural form, and he probably died in the red house, so I think that's the most likely scenario. Idk. It'd be pretty cool to see that happen. At the very least, his leg would be fucked up. (I wonder— if Akane returns to the old world as the exact same being, will he bring the new world version of the entity with him? Since his leg is infected.)

When I first posted this, it was three in the morning, and I'd just got the idea. I decided to edit this to make my reasoning more clear now that I've had time to think about it and look into it.

[sakuraswifee]

What if Tsuchigomori becomes relevant again next chapter and is actually super important because his ability to change the future once is brought up again after years