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msfcatlover · 1 year ago

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If your “holy grail” of characterization uses said character as nothing more than a prop to move the plot along, while objectifying them to hell & back, gives them minimal motivation, no agency to speak of, calls back to some of the most messed up shit they’ve done to people in a tee-hee isn’t that cute! light, and the only possibly character revealing choice they make is given less than a page of buildup and just so happens to be exactly what needed to happen to reinstate the status quo and never mention this little side adventure again (making it feel way more like writer convenience, rather than character-motivated choices)…

…If this is seriously the best version of this character you can point to, you can’t honestly expect me to see them as any deeper or more complex than the shallow prop this specific story used them for.

#my life #mine #fandoms all #I’m not tagging this #I’m just venting; I don’t want to get caught up in the discourse #Rant continued with more specificity in the rest of the tags #if you want to actually read my salt #for some reason #//#Anyway #I did not like ‘’Son of the Demon.’’#(I know I've said this before but I'm thinking about it again)#Talia has the personality of an off brand saltine cracker and not even the kind that set my allergies off as a fun gamble.#‘’Oh but she never assaulted Bruce in that!’’ No but if you go to literally the page before they fuck they’re reminiscing about the wedding #that she drugged & manipulated him into. The one where when he came to Bruce immediately said he did not consent to this leading to both #Talia & Ra’s laughing in his face and telling Bruce that his consent didn’t matter at all.#(In SotD she points out they're still married and Bruce says that wedding didn't ''feel real'' to him. Because he was. Y'know. DRUGGED.)#‘’Read her early appearances’’ I did! Turns out she’s a prop character who exists for sex appeal and occasional villain activities #when one of the /men/ in her life is too busy to handle things themselves.#Her personality traits are 1) Loyal to her father & his cause by extension. 2) In love with Batman. 3) Indecisive as fuck #(Though again that last trait might just be bad writing;changing her own thoughts on her plan/motive literally IN BETWEEN adjacent panels.)#‘’She gave Damian away as a sign of strength & love to save him from this life!’’She gave Damian away with zero shown about her thoughts on #the matter and… oh hey! Quick & easy way to write that baby out without bothering future plot! BACK TO THE STATUS QUO!#(Talia didn’t decide to give her baby up for adoption. Editorial did so that they could sweep this plot under a nice consequence free rug.)#I didn’t /hate/ SotD.#It did not fill me with incandescent rage the way some arcs I’ve read have. But I have /NO/IDEA/ why so many seem to love it so much.#And /especially/ no idea why people seem to love Talia in it.

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