#THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE A SCIENTIFICALLY ACCURATE DINOSAUR

[meow-iv]

biblically accurate dinosaurs

[paragonrobits]

transformers characterization concept for Grimlock: combine three elements

the first is Grimlock's recurring tendency to start out as a bad-tempered but ultimately compassionate loose cannon that, in later appearances, is usually a jolly and purely comedic character with little of the edge he previously has, purely silly and rarely being actually menacing. For the purposes of this thought experiment, this is NOT Grimlock's character shifting, but a conscious and deliberate decision on his part, playing up the fool or just not caring if people think he's being ridiculous now

the second is the goofy nature Grimlock being a transforming robot dinosaur, often with a really exaggerated or even goofy design that's not really meant to be scientifically accurate, but a cool alien robot who resembles the idea of a t-rex distilled. This can be terrifying, but its also an inherently over the top, even silly concept. So, play it up; lean into it as much as possible

third point is that in some serious works where Grimlock is a competent fighter and leader, but still leans towards his G1 characterization (complete with caveman speaking style), he is often the same as in more kid-friendly shows even while everyone else is being a hardass, so he is powerful but still goofy and unironic about it, and comes off as far more heroic BECAUSE of the contrast with the grittiness around him. The Transformers/GI Joe crossover (the world war 2 one) showcases him great as this, where he's a powerhouse eager to throw down against the forces of COBRA while Optimus is initially unsure if the Autobots have a right to get involved, and upon taking a bad hit, he tries to let himself fall to his death so his new friend Roadblock doesn't die with him. Generation 2 did something similar, with Grimlock retaining his G1 personality while in a group of much more antiheroic, even brutal Autobots that sneered at the aliens terrified of them, even acting in the alien's defense. Grimlock TELLS OFF anotheR Autobot for complaining about it, reminding him they're supposed to be heroes, and in a way that REALLY READS HARD as Grimlock saying, in his way 'we're supposed to be heroes here, so SLAGGIN' ACT LIKE IT'

combine these traits to get this:

Grimlock as a genuinely moral powerhouse who tries to downplay it and act like he's just showing up to have some fun, and deliberately plays up his more silly personality traits on purpose, because its fun but also to reassure others. He sternly disapproves of Autobots not acting according to their code, even if he has no real concern for the letter of their own laws, but acting in the spirit of a true Autobot, and he's honestly a jolly bruiser that lots throwing his weight around, but he does take it seriously and deliberately plays up his more comedic elements in order to reassure people, or calm them down, and it can be played up as him putting on a role just as much as when he goes out of his to terrify Decepticons

[grimmgrinningghouls]

Ugh I'm annoyed at paleoblr again sorry I have to bitch.

"arks bad because its the first google search result when u look up a dinosaur"

Okay well first of all hows that the game itselfs fault?? Like. the devs have zero control over that thats all google. And second of all thats barely even true!! I went ahead and googled some dinosaurs and here are the top results for those, and by top results I mean what appears when you first look at it WITHOUT scrolling.

Tell me. Wheres the ark dino. Where is it. Where are they where are these ark dinos you bitch and moan about CONSTANTLY. I'm not saying this is the case for every single dino in ark theres like 100's of them so I'm not going to google them all and provide a post with like a mile of screenshots.

and if your talking about the wiki or something being the first to pop up. Where. I actually had to go to page two to find the ark wiki for some of them.

"Little kids are being influenced by ark!!"

And? They're little kids. They are no more influenced by ark then they are jurrassic park/world or dinosaur toys. I can't really talk on the nintendo switch dino discoveries game as I haven't actually played it, dino discoveries is the only informational part of ark, and I am not going to pretend I know anything about that.

But are you seriously telling me you're getting upset at children not having accurate dinosaurs? at children being influenced by a popular piece of dinosaur media?? Dude. Chill.

"but people are treating it as a scientific resource!!"

Literally who is doing that. Anyone who does that probably puts their left shoe on their right foot. I extremely active within the ark community, as in extremely, and I have been since the game came out. I have talked to hundreds, possibly even thousands, of different people about dinosaurs on ark now and NOBODY. not a SINGLE person has ever claimed they thought ark was scientific.

Honestly most of us are well aware the arks deeply inaccurate. Its actually mentioned in game several times, most people don't stop to read the notes but one glance at them and the person whos writing them (a paleontologist btw) mentions that all the dinosaurs are wrong and will talk about the sizes being off or other things like that.

"Well they can't just say its not meant to be accurate and call it fine"

Yeah they can actually. Again, most ark players are at least aware of the games many issues and inaccuracies, its something that is regularly discussed amongst the fanartists and lore buffs actually. The most common people who are misinformed by ark are literal children. Get off your fucking high horse.

Honestly most of the stuff I see people bitching about isn't even arks fault. A lot of it is people ripping the models from the game and using them elsewhere, such as when a (very bad) dinosaur documentary stole arks models and used them to spread misinformation. This was not the fault of ark or wildcard, its not their fault other people take their assets and use them in improper ways. I'm fairly certain that if they can they send cease and desist letters to these people anyways.

[cashlin1114]

One of my biggest pet peeves when I hear people talk about scientifically accurate dinosaurs is when they say, “That’s not scary.”

They’re not meant to be. They didn’t exist to be scary to you. They were living, breathing animals that existed to survive. They were not fantasy creatures created for your horror movies. They were animals and they don’t deserve to be treated like bloodthirsty monsters.

[sillymillipede]

This showed up on my feed and I’m going to take the chance to rant about it. I don’t understand what it means.

I assumed it was one of those “accurate dinosaur good, inaccurate dinosaur bad” memes but if it is I don’t think it works.

Dinosaur designs when constrained by the strict rules of scientific plausibility… very similar looking except for variations in color, size, and slight variations in body shape. (Besides anchiornis but that’s unfair to add because it isn’t a dromeosaur. If you’re going to include one non-dromeosaur in one section why not include one in the other as well? Why use only dromeosaurs in the first place?)

Dinosaur designs when given full creative freedom with no regard for plausibility… very similar looking with variations in color, size, and there would be slight variation in body shape if the creator used images of different Jurassic Park style raptors instead of just the same one recolored.

Also, there are a ton of dinosaur designs that are different than the typical Jurassic Park style dinosaur yet still not a perfect representation of the dinosaur

Also even if they are not a 100% accurate design for the dinosaur they were meant to depict they were still designed with some regard for the plausibility of being an animal that could potentially exist… the behavior of the Jurassic Park raptors for example

stolen from that social media site gay millennials and grumpy boomers use

[trilobiter]

In my garage, I've put up an old poster I had from when I was a kid. It was a promotional item for the first Jurassic Park movie, and it shows some drawings of a tyrannosaurus, a brachiosaurus, and a velociraptor, with a human for scale. It also has some (very little) data about the dinosaurs, including that the velociraptor was about six feet long.

Now, that is a fact about real velociraptors. As we all know, however, it is not at all an accurate description of the animals called "velociraptors" in the Jurassic Park movies. The animal depicted on the poster is in keeping with that seen in the movie: if we assume the scale man is about 5'7" or 5'8", then the raptor is a bit over 6 feet tall, but as for length (the dimension the poster itself specifically cites), it is much, much longer.

There are other problems with the art as far as scientific accuracy goes, but it is interesting to think about the process that went into producing this promotional item. One person's job was to draw creatures that kids like me would recognize from the movie, while another's job was to research dinosaur facts to print alongside them. Whoever put these elements together for the finished poster may or may not have noticed that the facts didn't match the art, but even if they did the marketing consequences of changing either one were likely more than they wanted to deal with.

It's hard to remember how much I noticed about the discrepancy when I was six years old. If I did, maybe I rationalized it so that where they said "long," they meant "tall." Interesting to think about, but hard to say for sure.

[palaeo-loving-tboy]

A Birthday Baryonyx from Roblox's Dinosaur Simulator for my Birthday! :D

[jaestitchley]

The thing is, ChatGPT is not lying. It's an AI, it has no ability to lie. Rather, it grabs from multiple sources and treats those sources as if they are all correct when that is not the case.

Let's take dinosaurs as an example. ChatGPT is going to grab all the sources it can find about dinosaurs from around the internet and regurgitate that according to the whims of the user. This could be scientific research on dinosaurs from actual archaeologists, this could also be creationist dribble. It's given the same weight, so the resulting text is poisoned.

This poisoned information doesn't even have to be from sources about actual dinosaurs. Let's say there was an unfiction project about a secret species of dinosaurs that still live in Carlsbad caverns to this day. If for some reason, this project is perceived as actual research or tagged as such, whatever, then it could still fall under ChatGPT's radar. It doesn't know what an unfiction project is. It doesn't know it's not meant to be real. All it sees is the word "dinosaur" and throws it into the pot regardless. And I highly doubt that the team behind chat GPT is going to go around to every single website it scrapes and make sure that the information is accurate or even meant to be true.

The point is, this should not be used to write essays. It has no ability to fact check, and I doubt the sleep deprived students are going to bother.

[luxlightly]

A lot of my feelings on scientific accuracy arguing on the internet boils down to "The Blobfish is not going to fuck you"

Like, yes I'm all for scientific accuracy and not spreading misinformation but there's a point at which the relevancy of the subject is less than the outrage over it.

I think most people are very well aware that the "blobfish" isn't a blob when it's alive and under the water. But the original image is still funny so people still tend to draw it that way sometimes. And there there are people who react to this in "defense" of the fish as though they expected it to repay them with sexual favors.

"how do you think that makes it feel?" I think it's a funny fish from the bottom of the ocean that doesn't care at all because it's a fish and not going to reward you for the amount of energy you're pouring into "defending" it. And that specific one is dead so I really don't think it cares. Nor would I care if aliens found my exploded corpse and called me "splat alien". For similar reasons (ie being dead).

Often the same thing goes for dinosaurs with me. As someone who has had dinosaurs be a special interest since childhood, I feel strongly about accuracy of portrayals but I also recognize that fictionalized or humourous depictions are not meant to be accurate any more than Winnie the Pooh is meant to be an accurate depiction of a grizzly bear.

"you can't make a light hearted drawing speculating what a t Rex would look like as a big chicken!" Why not? Is it paying you for this? Has it contacted you personally? Does the animal from 65 million years ago have a libel suit out against this depiction someone made for fun?

It's just. Certain misinformation about animals leads to real life harm. Depictions of sharks as man eaters actively contributes to them being culled, for example. But other things, especially ones that most people referencing them already know aren't accurate and are just referencing for fun, are just not important enough to be as aggressive as people get in "defending" the animal.

The blobfish just isn't going to fuck you.

[puzzlies]

Do you want to know what's ironic? Those little books sold at small shops or libraries meant to teach children about dinosaurs and ancient reptiles, which use primarily outaded information gathered in the 90's and 80's rather than the more updated models and references actual scientists use these days to continue their research with. Now, I'm not expecting a children's book to have detailed descriptions and categorizations of each animal and subspecies that's ever lived, but if you want to teach someone about a topic, irregardless of how vague or brief you want to be, you should use information that's more scientifically accurate rather than your usual green sauropod with missing joints, or your exclusively bipedal spinosaurus.

[tempural]

🦖new on da site‍🦖: DINOSAUR pins and pouches!

Plus other prehistoric animals! They're not scientifically accurate, but they sure are fun!

Featured creatures include: apatosaur, megalodon, spinosaur, parasaurolophus, krononsau, suchosaurus, theriziniosaurus, carnotaurus, anklyosaur, hadrosaurid, dilophosaurus, gulper eel, anurognathus, and frog requested by Rocky.

Pins are a petite 1.5" length, and made of pine wood. They come with blue rubber back clasps.

Pouches are meant to showcase the size differences in these animals! They come in double zipper and small types.

Holla at me if you wanna see a specific animal as a pin :)

[nocturnasnadderaneas]

constantly being viciously torn between, "it is of utmost importance to portray dinosaurs as scientifically accurate as they're meant to be due to the jurassic park franchise setting a false precedence in their beloved childhood movies and causing incredible amounts of the population to embrace science denialism as a result, which affects various areas of paleontology in many horrifically bad ways." and, "big scaly lizards very pretty and nice to look at."

[tsaagan]

I wish I could just go to a store and buy some Papo/CollectA/Safari ltd/Mojo Fun/Bullyland dinosaurs but nooooooooo they don’t ever have any of those, there’s only Jurassic World and maybe some really inaccurate small toys that just have the animal’s name or “China“ written on the belly but no other information and Finnish online stores also usually don’t have any accurate dinosaurs, there’s Schleich and some other dinos meant for young children and then I have to buy from UK or Deutschland if customer service was something I like to do then maybe I could set up a toy store that’s focused on scientifically accurate dinosaur toys

[mysticraven17]

I’m proud to present my first ever handmade plush, a feathered velociraptor!

Scientifically accurate dinosaur plushes are very hard to come by, and the few that do exist are pretty expensive (and pretty weird looking). So i was happy to discover a plush pattern for a accurate velociraptor, as this meant I could just make my own feathered velociraptor plush, and make it look however I wanted

It isn’t 100% perfect, but for my first plush I think it looks great, and it definitely satisfies my desire to have a accurate dinosaur plush in my collection of dinosaur stuff. This was quite the learning experience for me, as I’ve never made any kind of plush before (and I wasn’t so great at sewing prior to working on this, I had to teach myself different sewing techniques when making this plush)

I used these patterns to make the plush: https://www.deviantart.com/isismasshiro/art/Feathered-velociraptor-plushie-PATTERNS-616728982

This plush measures 33 inches wide from the tail to its head, and about 13 inches tall.

[katietheslayerold]

Some dino sketches I did, over the last month or so. I really love dinosaurs, and wanted to draw some, so I took a few requests from friends and family! 

I just want to add that these are NOT meant to be 100% scientifically accurate, a Paleo artist I am no, I just really REALLY hecking love dinosaurs and wanted to have fun drawing some!!! :’)

We have:

Stegosaurus stenops, Triceratops horridus, Iguanodon  bernissartensis, Quetzalcoatlus northropi, Pteranodon longiceps, Mosasaurus hoffmanni, Tyrannosaurus rex, Utahraptor ostrommaysorum, Ankylosaurus magniventris, and Apatosaurus ajax

If there’s a dinosaur you’d like to see, feel free to request it! :3c

[whatisthisnonsense]

The whole argument that the dinosaurs aren't right in the movies bugs me anyway because it was legit addressed that because they had to splice genes together to create them, that's why they're not scientifically accurate. Yeah the velociraptors are big and featherless in the movies, because they're not *actually* velociraptors

EXACTLY

Like yes we do need accurate representations of these species, but you should be bothering BBC and Animal Planet and other shows that actually are meant to be scientific but constantly go for popular hot takes instead of the movie that outright states they’re genetically modified theme park versions and not accurate in-universe