#THE DROP
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Those puppy eyes 🥺💖
TOM HARDY as Bob Saginowski in "The Drop" (2014) dir. Michaël R. Roskam
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You know, he’s just the grumpy and quiet bartender who always has a look at her store across the street just in case something happens. In a very friendly manner. She’s too oblivious to everything. Too good for this world. He’s just the grumpy bartender who worries about her.
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I realised that this year his film 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑫𝒓𝒐𝒑, where he plays 𝗕𝗼𝗯 𝗦𝗮𝗴𝗶𝗻𝗼𝘄𝘀𝗸𝗶, turns 10 years old 😮
So, I wanted to make a special post remembering this character 💖🥰
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Me di cuenta de que en este año su película 𝑳𝒂 𝑬𝒏𝒕𝒓𝒆𝒈𝒂, donde interpreta a 𝗕𝗼𝗯 𝗦𝗮𝗴𝗶𝗻𝗼𝘄𝘀𝗸𝗶, cumple 10 años 😮
Así que, quería hacer una publicación especial recordando a este personaje 💖🥰
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Thinking about The Drop™ again. Long and weird post, sorry, with a thought experiment more than a real theory I guess. Wrote this at 3 am when I couldn't sleep xD
I'm not going to argue that Lestat's abuse toward Louis (and Claudia, but focusing on Louis in this) is OOC in general. In fact, I think it fits his character, his impulsiveness and works with the themes of "being a monster" and his abandonment issues triggering that behaviour (I'm not excusing his behaviour, just trying to explain it).
But
The Drop?
(CW for SA)
I know I know that Lestat even acknowledged it himself during the trial (well, the lestat from louis's retelling) and I'm not saying that Louis is lying that Lestat did abuse him to that extent. But the drop feels OOC for me. Sometimes I wonder if it's all a metaphor for another similar horrid thing Lestat might have done instead. Because there's this thing with him not possessing the cloud gift at that point in the books.
I have that thought that maybe... What if Lestat SA'd Louis? And Louis didn't feel safe to tell Daniel that after hearing how Daniel spoke about Claudia in that context? Who knows the books, knows that Lestat canonically SA'd someone. It would recontextualise a lot. The flying in S1E1 during lovemaking? A metaphor for part of the sex, maybe even subspace. Louis letting his rage/revenge at Lestat out through violent hate sex with *stabbing* of all things? Louis looks almost dissociated during sex in the "distracting Lestat so Claudia can plot" phase but not during kisses etc. Then there's the way Louis doms Armand later.
What if actual flying = something very intimate in the show (yes well I don't think it's far fetched to think Santiago would be an exhibitionist then). Armand having to fly up to fetch books for Louis. Armand's aerobic evening in the back of the theatre. Armand flying up the stairs before revealing his past to Louis. Armand descending from the bookcases in "no pain" after rashid left, but showing Daniel is all right (could be wrong with the order of events in that scene though).
Armand makes Daniel fly and crash on the ground in 1973 and afterwards Daniel has this extra haunted expression.
I'm probably overthinking everything. I don't think that's actually canon. I just like to analyse and theorise. It's crazy and far fetched and has plot holes but that tiny corner of my brain is saying "but what if it's not?"
If we were still on the internet of 2010 I'd say "thank you for reading all this, here's a cookie *gives cookie*"
#iwtv#amc iwtv#fan theory#crazy theory#cloud gift#the drop#lestat de lioncourt#loustat#louis de pointe du lac#don't hate me lol#my brain spat this out in the middle of the night and somehow it felt like “woah 3000 IQ” and “it's bonkers” simultaneously
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Tom Hardy in The Drop
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Hello :-) I was just wondering if you have overall thoughts now on how you feel about The Drop in series one now we’ve seen all of Louis’ perspective on what happened?
I’ve been mulling it over (and trying to separate it from the fact I find the discourse in fandom about it (Lestat) annoying). I can see why the show runners wanted to do it; it makes the relationship’s toxicity much more clear and Lestat was abusive in the books, just not as clearly as 1x05 lays it out. So I can see why they wanted to give Louis (and especially Claudia) that much more motivation. I did also find Sam’s reasoning - that it’s important to show Lestat’s underlying toxic masculinity more clearly - compelling too. But I also just don’t like that they did that to Lestat. I do think it’s something that changes who he is and what he’s capable of. But maybe I’m just too much a Lestat girl and it is better for the story and it’s actually just laying out some difficult truths about him in a way that’s not comfortable. Obviously he’s a monster, even if in the books he’s a monster that generally tries his best to help and care for those he loves. Where do you land on it?
(I totally understand if you don’t want to open this can of worms, but I’d be interested in the discussion or you pointing me in the direction of your previous thoughts if that’s easier)
Hey!
All good. I have talked about this a few times, so I'll try to... condense where I am at this moment :)
So, re that "toxic masculinity" and the arc they're aiming for... I think it's important to remember here that Akasha does aim for Lestat as her tool because she does see "everything wrong with the males" in him. So that arc makes a lot of sense for them to set up.
Ultimately this is what she misjudges Lestat on though, and why she, why her quest fails - he actually isn't, and he turns against her because he isn't.
I said it before, the abuse is in the (first) book - but not at this level. And not with the added layer of domestic violence, and I think that level will come back to bite the show in the ass again and again (and the fandom is a mess because of it), because what the show showed - and what they let stand for almost two years - is something decidedly different than "two vampires fighting". Which we're supposed to take away from it now. And which is "only" the inside part of that... fight.
The outside has been hinted at in the video with Sam you're referencing now as well, totally apart from the missing blood everywhere which makes the scene unlikely to have happened as shown, there was also the hint re... something else, that Sam caught himself on. I have theorized early on that the outside might be connected to Amel, and I do think that might hold true. Which is no excuse, btw, since Amel uses certain skills and tendencies. We'll see.
So now the drop.
I am not sure if we have seen all, tbh. There were comments about something about the "blood of Akasha" that was cut from that scene, for example. It would certainly makes sense with the tower scene. Also Lestat being so frustrated with Louis and whatever discussion they had up there to drop him? Still doesn't make sense to me, but I guess that's more or less confirmed now. Still reeks like the tower drop parallel to me (that we might get in s3, who knows).
I think there is something quite powerful they could do with the drop vs certain upcoming book canon "flying scenes". I know some fans said that they destroyed that scene with 1x05, but I actually disagree. The level of trust needed would actually only enhance where they are with each other then, but we'll see.
So. After the comments re "toxic masculinity" etc (mostly by Sam) it made click for me.
I think I know why they're doing this, I think I know how they'll spin it. But I don't particularly like it.
Still, it will likely work. In the end.
After a lot of (fandom) pains.
#agarlandoffreshlycuttears#ask nalyra#amc iwtv#iwtv#amc interview with the vampire#interview with the vampire#lestat de lioncourt#the brat prince#iwtv lestat#toxic masculinity#the drop#1x05#episode 5
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From The Drop, Archie’s Joke Book Magazine #128 (1968).
#bughead#jughead jones#betty cooper#archie andrews#old comics#digest comics#archie's joke book#bughead high school#bughead summer#bughead beach#bughead mad#the drop
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I don't give one rats ass fuck about these fucks - Brad Harrison
#brad Harrison#edmonton oilers#oilers lb#calvin pickard#evan bouchard#mattias ekholm#connor mcdavid#ryan nugent hopkins#zach hyman#the drop
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The ones where he looks like he's eating her, especially.
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The OP already sounds GOOD UGHHH I need this so much already
#its defo going to be my fav out of the three that we know rn#THE DROP#IS#MAJESTIC#UGGHHHH#nanatsu no taizai#seven deadly sins#nnt#7ds#4koa#mokushiroku no yonkishi
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What better way to celebrate 𝐃𝐨𝐠 𝐃𝐚𝐲 (in the United Kingdom) than a video with moments of 𝗧𝗼𝗺 with dogs during breaks from filmings of his movies? 🥰
He looks and feels so happy with them, and they feel so comfortable with him 💖 I love it 💞
We already saw 𝗕𝗹𝘂𝗲 last Friday in a new 𝑪𝒃𝒆𝒆𝒃𝒊𝒆𝒔 (if you missed it, go to the link in my bio, and during this week I will upload photos from the programme), and I found these clips so adorable that I wanted to share them today 😍💘
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¿Qué mejor manera de celebrar el 𝐃í𝐚 𝐝𝐞𝐥 𝐏𝐞𝐫𝐫𝐨 (en Reino Unido) que un vídeo con momentos de 𝗧𝗼𝗺 con perritos en los descansos de rodajes de sus películas? 🥰
Se le ve y nota tan feliz con ellos, y ellos se sienten tan a gusto con él 💖 Me encanta 💞🐕
A 𝗕𝗹𝘂𝗲 ya lo vimos el pasado viernes en un nuevo 𝑪𝒃𝒆𝒆𝒃𝒊𝒆𝒔 (si te lo perdiste, ve al enlace de mi biografía, y durante esta semana subiré fotos del programa), y estos clips me parecieron tan adorables que quería compartirlos hoy 😍💘
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#tom hardy#edward thomas hardy#venom#venom 2#venom let there be carnage#let there be carnage#venom habrá matanza#habrá matanza#nosotros somos venom#nosotros somos venom 2#we are venom#we are venom 2#behind the scenes#bts#detrás de escenas#2020#dog day#national dog day#día del perro#día nacional del perro#the drop#la entrega#bob saginowski#2013#tom hardy dogs#tom hardy perros#video#tom hardy video#my edits#mis edits
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Happy Heavenly Birthday James 🎂💔
James Joseph Gandolfini Jr 🤍
September 18,1961 - June 19,2013🙏🏻
We Miss You So Much 🕊️♾️
Buon Compleanno in Paradiso 🎂💔
18 Settembre 1961 - 19 Giugno 2013🙏🏻
Ci Manchi Moltissimo 🕊️♾️
#james gandolfini#actor#world cinema#cinema#movies#film#tv shows#trueroman#8mm#the man who wasn't there#romanceandcigarettes#the sopranos#tony soprano#cinemaverite#where the wild things are#lonelyhearts#in the loop#welcometotherileys#theincredibleburtwonderstone#enough said#the drop#celebrity#legend#always in our hearts#happy heavenly birthday
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There's something sublime about a clinical hypnotic induction They tend to feel clean, potent, and focused They often lead me into the best trances I made this collage to share what the drop feels like after one of these intoxicating inductions
#spiral#hypno spiral#hypno gif#digital collage#hypno art#hypnotism#hypnosis#berylightring#hypno fantasy#induction#clincalinduction#hypnocollage#hypnotized#the drop#trance#hypnotic#hypnotized girl
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