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okay but WHO WAS GONNA TELL ME that luO YUNXI!!!! is cast as ChU WanNINg? I BEG YOUR FINEST PARDON?
someone’s gonna need to wipe me off the floor if Immortality ever airs because i am not ready
so you’re telling me that this
is the man gonna be playing THE pathetic wet cat, the “no one could ever possibly love me”
the stoic, the graceful yuheng elder
the desperately repressed
The White Cat, Chu Wanning????
i’m done. deceased. wake me up when it’s out
image credits: gifs 1&2 @xiaosean - 3&4 @kimp05 - 5 @trendingdrama - 6 @yilinglaozu - image 7 @inthefaceofadaffodil (also OP of the inciting post mentioned in the tags) - 8 official image
#i have tears in my eyes#it’s so perfect#and like#the chemistry between Bai Lu and him in the TTEOTM bedroom scenes had me feeling some type of way#but silly old me then thought that oh - yeah no he’s got such good chemistry with female leads surely i’ll never get to see him in a BL#and TWO SECONDS LATER i see a post with a leaked image of him as chu wanning and i???#THE SLUTTIEST MOST UNHINGED DANMEI AND HES THE LEAD????????#I AM LOSING MY GODDAMN MIND#luo yunxi#luo yunxi i love you please never stop#2ha#erha he ta de bai mao shizun#immortality#tteotm#till the end of the moon#tantai jin#chu wanning#hyx#hao yi xing#hyx leak#hao yi xing leak#sinna roublogs
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Pondering whether I should start treating 7 seas danmei translations like pokemon and y'know buy them all.
#danmei#the ballad of sword and wine#qjj#case file compendium#bing an ben#guardian#zhen hun#peerless#dinghai fusheng records#mo dao zu shi#mdzs#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#heaven official's blessing#legend of exorcism#remnants of filth#yuwu#riverbay road men's dormitory#run wild: sa ye#stars of chaos#sha po lang#the disabled tyrant's beloved pet fish#canji baojun de zhangxin yu chong#2ha#erha he ta de bai mao shizun#the husky and his white cat shizun#scum villian self saving system#svsss#thousand autumns#you've got mail: the perils of pigeon post#qiang jin jiu
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The Nine Circles of Hell: Dead Friend Forever, Episode 7
First, a trigger warning: I'll be discussing themes of revenge porn, grooming, statutory rape, sexual coercion.
I'm going to discuss this episode with as much upmost care as I can, due to the sheer amount of sensitive material that came out of this week's episode I will also not being using any explicit scene screen captures from this episode. If there's anything you'd like to me to take out or want a more in depth conversation, feel free to use either of my message boxes.
Last week I said DFF had more to offer than just being a campy 90s slasher remake. While I first thought we were already in the depths of hell, thematically, with Non getting beaten by the mafia, I didn't expect this week's episode to somehow double that pain. But here we are. I was lulled into false security with the 5 minute montage of getting to know what Phee and Non's relationship was like. I should have remembered that I'm definitely watching the wrong genre when I expected more of those moments.
Non and Phee
This episode really continues and expands the idea that humans are not these clear-cut, unambiguous, good-or-bad beings that idea has now been depicted through Non and his relationship with Phee. Non has so much love to give and so much want for being loved, it's what leads to Phee in the first place, but it's also what leads to his downfall. Because Non loves so much and so hard, it's also why he wasn't ecstatic that Phee had to lie to his father and say that he was involved, just to get him out of trouble with the police. What started like a sweet date turns a bit bitter, because Non is seeing the consequences of his actions not only affect himself but also the others that he loves. It's also why he couldn't tell Phee about the sheer amount he owed Tee's uncle, because he was now well aware that if Phee found out, he would get himself involved.
Non lies and manipulates Phee, he tells him time and time again that nothing happened between him and Mr. Kreng. Non swears to Phee that he isn't lying to him and that he won't keep any secrets from him anymore. It pains him to do so, he's barely holding himself together by the end of a thread thread once he's Phee's arms and his face is hidden from Phee's view. Yet, he does. He keeps it a secret how big of a hole he has found himself in, because he doesn't want to drag Phee down with him. Non says it himself to Jin, he doesn't want to be burden, he'll figure it out himself. It's a direct parallel to the bigger issues that Non is finding himself in beyond just within the 'movie set'. He has the 300 million baht hanging over his head, his parents (in his point of view) regret having him and find that he does is bring embarrassment to the family, and now he has another adult willing to give him the 300 million baht with a fake sense of care. So he found, what he believes to be, a solution that would get rid of the 300 million baht debt and all it requires is giving up a piece of himself, but at least it won't come at a cost of burdening his parents or Phee.
In trying to protect Phee, his lies ends up costing him the one he loves the most, Phee. Now from this point on, this is all speculation, but when Phee accused Non of 'always doing this', I'm not in the camp that believes that Phee is accusing Non about being a serial cheater. I see why people are in that camp, but I initially jumped to that conclusion as well. Now, I'm more in the line that Phee is accusing of Non always feeding him lies, even after explicitly promising him that he wouldn't. After putting his neck out for him, after letting Non do things his way as long as he promised to tell him the truth, Non goes back to telling lies. Phee lashes out, and at the end of the day he's still a teenager, so he hits Non's weakest point. Just get lost and die. The very words that likely haunt Phee in the present-day, now as an adult. And Non's holds the broken bracelet, punishing himself, because he knew that there was no coming back from losing his lifeline.
Non and Mr. Kreng (Please keep my trigger warnings in mind, they will be heavily discussed in this section.)
Statutory Rape. Grooming. Coerced Sexual Relations. Nonconsensual Sex. Molestation. Sexual Assault. Sexual Abuse. Those are all words to describe the relationship that occurred between Non and Mr. Keng. Let's call exactly what it is. I think I'll lose my mind if I have to see someone another person call Non a cheater. There is no cheating when there is statutory rape.
Non is literally at the end of his rope, Mr. Keng clocked that immediately. He knew that Non was isolated, that he was completely othered by his classmates, he believes that Non has nobody else to turn to, and he knows that Non is in deep in a scam that target teens. In his eyes, he found the perfect victim.
Non is taken advantage of by a person in power, a person that he should be able to trust. Non isn't naïve, he clocked that Mr. Keng wanted something from him since the moment they first met. But he is vulnerable. He's being extorted by the mafia and he sees someone offering him the money that he needs to put an end to that. In his eyes, it was a way out, a means to an end that just cost him a piece of his soul. I truly think Non rationalized it to himself as prostituting himself, because he knew that money was never coming without a price. No matter how much Mr. Keng tried to sell it as 'brotherly' love.
But at the end of the day, it does not matter what Non believed or rationalized, because Mr. Keng was the adult in the situation. He had a duty, as a teacher, to protect Non and provide a safe classroom environment. Instead he target, manipulates, and coerces Non into having sexual relations with him. He knows the power imbalance he holds, first as a teacher and then with the 300 million baht he 'gave' him. Mr. Keng, knowing that Non's not close to his 'friends', physically isolates him. He takes him to his office that's half-lit, located in a long hallway with, seemingly, very little foot traffic. He prods at Non, asking what's been bothering him and has him visibly become emotional, before offering his care. He's a complete and utter predator, in every sense of the term.
I hope he dies a long, painful death.
Non and Jin
First and foremost, whether or not Jin was ultimately the one that posted the video does not matter. Filming a classmate being sexually assaulted is still child porn at the very least and, possibly, revenge porn (if he disseminated the video) at the worst. I was on the same boat as @respectthepetty and their take that Jin had to be the worst of them all. Like they said in that post, Jin is a coward and he even admits to it. There's nothing more cowardly than hiding behind a door, filming you supposed 'friend' getting sexually abused by your teacher, and then even considering putting up on social media for revenge because your heart is broken.
Yes, Top framed Non. Yes, Por demanded (and bullied) money from Non. Yes, Tee brought Non to the mafia. Those are all very bad things, don't get me wrong. All the physical and mental abuse they put Non through was hell. Yet, Jin was the only one aware that Non had already been seeing someone, which seemingly had upset him already. Then he sees him with Mr. Keng and instead of reporting that his alleged friend was being assaulted, he gets angry and films Non at his most vulnerable point in life. Even Fluke didn't want any part of that.
Jin takes away Non's dignity. And at the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether he uploaded it online or not, he was still the one to film, transfer that file onto his computer, and contemplate whether he was going to post it or not. At every point since he found that Non and Mr. Kreng were in that room, he rendered Non powerless. That video would have never been uploaded if it hadn't existed in the first place. With just a point of a camera and click of a button, he is revictimizing Non every. single. time. that video is opened and seen by another person.
There are no words to fully describe or explain that kind of trauma that he has subjected Non to.
Final Thoughts
This episode was nauseating. It honestly took me about two hours just to get to the end. Usually, I can watch through a show I enjoy really quickly, but this episode was so hard to digest. And that's simply due to how realistic they are approaching the subject of Non and Mr. Keng.
Barcode and Ta really are the stars of the show. I'm not saying that the other castmates aren't amazing in their roles, but man TaBarcode really know are hitting every single emotional beat. I was never a TaBarcode nor a MacauChay girlie, but man Be On Cloud has truly brought out their best this time around. Even though I fully know we are heading towards an incredibly heart wrenching ending for PheeNon, I can't help but want to hoard and scramble for moments of them together.
It's crazy how well, everyone was able to pull their weight this episode. There were so many moments that with less talented, less experienced actors, could have fallen flat, but they didn't. Ta and Barcode's PheeNon was so incredibly heart-beating, butterfly inducing before we were brought back into their reality outside of their relationship. 2J and Barcode's scenes were.... so disgustingly real, for lack of better words. I knew that storyline was never going to end well but it had been more than I ever expected Be On Cloud to release. They're tackling such real issues that weigh on teens with incredible tact, there's no romanticizing what happened. Even Phee's reaction was so understandable when you put yourself in the shoes of a teenager. I'll reiterate again and again, whatever you think about Be On Cloud as a management company, as a production company, they really are breaking boundaries and doing something right. Whatever happens in the second half, I think I'll be here, recovering, for a long time.
#dead friend forever#dff meta#dff the series#dff episode 7#dff non#dff Phee#dff jin#dff mr.kreng#dead friend forever the series#barcode tinnasit#ta nannakun#copper phuriwat#2J Chalach#be on cloud#boc actors#dff spoilers#pheenon#jinnon#pheejinnon#dff
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Barcode Tinnasit as NON THANAKORN, Copper Phuriwat as JIN JINNAPHAT and Ta Nannakun as PHEE RATTHAKIAT DEAD FRIEND FOREVER (2023-2024)
#dead friend forever#dead friend forever the series#dff#dff the series#barcode tinnasit#copper phuriwat#ta nannakun#thai series#pheejin#pheenon#non dff#dff non#jin dff#dff jin#phee dff#dff phee#thai bl#dff cast#lana.gifs#dff.gifs#take this as you wish besties i know what it is but i'll leave it up to personal interpretation#also know the quality is not the best but i'm tired of working on it#parallels my beloved#that little scene of jin lowering his chin before asking if anything's wrong is the cutest shit ever#this cast is made of a 100% of cuties#userbon#userbeoncloud#asiandramasource
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Dead Friends Forever as text posts (episodes 1-4)
Bonus:
#my apologies for the last one lol#and thanks to the people who sent me text posts I appreciate youuuuuuu#dead friend forever#DFF#DFF the series#Phi DFF#Jin DFF#Fluke DFF#Por DFF#White DFF#DFF text posts#PheeJin#ta nannakun#copper phuriwat#us nititorn#fuaiz thanawat#bump pawat
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Everyone trying to figure out the theories and whatnot, meanwhile me waiting for more PheeJin sex scenes ;)
Original gifs here and here, thanks!
#pheejin#dead friend forever#dff the series#tacopper#dead friend forever the series#dff#ta nannakun#copper phuriwat#phee#jin#be on cloud#dff spoilers
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Dead Friend Forever EP1 (Phi x Jin)
🔥🤤
#dead friend forever#DFF#DFF ep1#episodio 1#estreno#boys love#series bl#thai bl#couple bl#boys kissing#kiss bl#so hot 🔥🔥🔥#asian bl series#phi x jin#boc#ta nannakun#copper phuriwat#tacopper
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#THE WAY MY BRAIN IS ROTTING OVER THEMMMM#pheejin#phijin#phi dead friend forever#jin dead friend forever#ta nannakun#copper phuriwat#dead friend forever#dead friend forever the series#dff the series#my gifs
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Watching back the Jin and Non content, Jin has zero clue what genre he's in. Like, he thinks he's in one of those cute high school BLs where the shy, unpopular kid is gonna open up and fall for him.
The way he's looking at Non during the editing stuff at Non's house. You just know he's got the theme music in his head and the narrative all planned out. Living his little BL delulu fantasy.
He has no clue.
Then he meets Phee and starts the process again.
Oh Jin. Poor, clueless Jin.
#like obviously characters don't usually become self aware to know what genre they're in but that boy is so convinced otherwise#it's just something K and I noticed and chuckled about#Jin dff#copper phuriwat#Non dff#barcode tinnasit#phee dff#ta nannakun#Jin is deep in his delulu BL fantasies#dff the series#dead friend forever#dff
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What's with the "?" hmmm?
COPPER PHURIWAT igs 10.03.24
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That poll about Lan Wangji being the horninest mxtx character got me thinking...
Who is the horniest man in danmei?
Is it Mo Ran?
(I hope it's Mo Ran)
#no idea what to tag this as#maybe tag all the danmei books i have that arent mxtx#2ha#qjj#thousand autumns#yuwu#remnants of filth#erha he ta de bai mao shizun#the ballad of sword and wine#qiang jin jiu#qian qiu#danmei#wait tag the mxtx ones too#lan zhan might be hornier than mo ran#maybe#tgcf#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#heaven official's blessing#tian guan ci fu
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Echoes of Guilt: Exploring the Thin Line Between Tee's Redemption and Salvation in Dead Friend Forever, Episode 11
This week, I'm really enjoying what DFF is trying to say about the humanity in making shitty choices and having to live with the outcome. The framing of Tee's journey, about how in trying to survive the hell he's in with his father, he inadvertently causes Non's death, gives a reason to why he makes the decisions that he does, rather than excusing them. Arguably, this was never supposed to be Tee's redemption arc, rather it's the story of his salvation and reformation.
Non isn't meant to be an ingénue in this story. He's flawed and he makes some bad decisions, but he's still a victim. Yes, Non has, to a degree, had his own autonomy digging himself further into the shithole, but in the end, his actions were all reactions to an already existing shithole that he was forced into. While the bullying may have not started with Tee, man, did the kid know exactly how to lay a trap and let others burn in it. He was calculating, so much more than his peers, likely because he has been dealing with shitty adults in his own personal life. Before White, Tee was turning into the terrible adults that he was surrounded by. This episode is explicitly showing the journey of Tee's realization of the consequences of his actions and his attempt to change while still dealing with a dirty past.
The misdirection of the Redemption Arc in Tee's story
First things first, the redemption arc deals with the characterization of a deep internal struggle within the character. A character undergoing a redemption arc deals with personal guilt, remorse and the desire for atonement. The redemption journey is usually initiated by the character themselves after being confronted with their flaws or wrongdoings. Broken down into steps, a redemption arc typically involve: (1) a flaw, (2) acknowledgement of the effect of their actions, (3) seeking atonement, (4) struggles with guilt or remorse, (5) significant growth because of their struggles, (6) tangible manifestations of their acts of redemption, (7) seeking forgiveness. A redemption arc typically resolves when the character achieves some form of personal redemption, whether it be through forgiveness, closure, or inner peace. Redemption arcs emphasize personal responsibility and the inner journey of the character.
The reality is that Tee doesn't redeem himself. He never has the opportunity to because Non dies two weeks after Tee delivered him to Uncle Joe. Non's dead (as far as Tee and we, as an audience,know so far). Sure, Tee was working towards redemption, with his several attempts to save Non from his Uncle's grasp, but he'll never reach redemption because Non is gone. He doesn't even get the chance to seek forgiveness, nor I'm sure that he needs any forgiveness from Non. The guilt that is consuming him, the realization and acceptance of how much pain he has caused a fellow human being is not redemption, it's remorse. And you first have to have remorse to find the road to redemption. So while episode 11 might have shown that Tee was starting on his redemption arc, by the end of the episode, he's still not redeemed. In comparison to all the pain that he has caused, working a second job to help Non get out of the debt he caused doesn't erase the extent of harassments and suffering he subjected Non to. Here, the story was never truly centered on Tee's journey to atone for the pain he caused Non but rather it seems to make it a point to show his guilt. That's not redemption.
Also just from a writing stand point, Non's confrontation, and ultimately, Tee's decision to attempt to get Non out of being his Uncle's slave is part of Tee's progression, but is not the climax of his story. Even if you consider Tee's emerging guilt after realizing that his uncle was planning to sell Non for body parts, it's only serves as a catalyst for Tee to realize and confront the pain he has caused. The true change that we see in Tee comes the moment he meets White. White's presence is the turning point in Tee's life, that makes him want to change.
The initiation of Tee's Salvation Arc
The Salvation arc of a character focuses more on the development on the relationship between the "savior" and the one in need of salvation. Particularly, this arc highlights the external forces that shape a character's transformation, leading to a new direction or purpose in life. The resolution often involves the one in need of salvation finding a sense of change, sometimes without ever fully achieving complete redemption. Both arcs deal with the change and growth in a character, yet while the redemption arc often leads to a cathartic resolution where the character finds peace or closer, the salvation arc focuses more on external influences and the power of compassion. This arc doesn't particularly signify that that the character will fully find true redemption. Instead the character may become reformed having changed into a better person and acknowledged their wrongdoing, but not particularly working to make amends for their past mistakes.
No person exists in isolation and Tee's change is interconnected with White's appearance. Tee frames it himself. "Since I met White, I started knowing what happiness is. I started having my goal. Wanting to start over. I wanted to become a better person." That very moment is the climax in Tee's story, the moment where Tee needed to make a critical choice of who he wanted to be. Every moment that he had to witness Non's suffering and ultimately come to the realization that he is in large part the reason for Non's death is a lesson that he's learned of has shown him who he no longer wants to be. Non is the journey, but it's only assists in Tee's growth, making him ready to be a better person for the moment that he meets White.
Tee was going to stew in the regret and remorse he felt for Non's death, but Tee wasn't making amends FOR him. He was stagnant. He accepted his culpability and thought that being unhappy would be the proper punishment that he deserved. Yet, he didn't seek to right the wrongs, he didn't reach out to Non's family to let them know their baby boy had died in obscurity. That is a far cry from atonement and redemption. Instead, White gave him new purpose and direction in life. Humans are always capable of change, it's just depends on an individual's want or need to do so. Dead Friend Forever seems to be making a message about how even though Tee has the capacity for growth, change, and healing, Tee still has to respond for the pain and hurt he caused beyond Non.
Final Thoughts
While a redemption arc holds many similarities with that of a salvation arc, the exploration of the complexities of human nature are done through two distinct lenses. I don't think Dead Friend Forever is trying to focus on Tee's personal responsibility and inner struggles while ignoring the damage that he did to Non, but rather seems to be making a stand on the effect of external influence and finding personal salvation from connections with others. The very thing that Non had always been denied by Tee and the others, human connections.
Salvation arcs don't automatically make a character likeable, which DFF seems to be aware of, so I don't think it's an attempt to make him another version of a hero for Non. Rather it lays a foundation to Tee, showing his own struggles with his family, his own flaws, and his own attempt at change. It explains Tee's incentives behind his actions, but doesn't create an excuse for them. It not a redemption story, because he doesn't redeem himself. Non's dead and he can't ask for forgiveness from a ghost. His salvation doesn't even come after Non dies, because his inaction after Non's death was still an action. He still takes part in denying Non proper rest, even in death. His change came after where he learned from his wrongs and chooses to no longer do any more harm because of White. Even so, he still played a role in the complete devastation that he caused Non's family. Tee's actions caused a domino effect, where he eventually had a hand in creating New's pain, thirst and revenge.
As Tee has undergone his salvation arc, it highlights the irreversible consequences of his actions and the cycle of violence and retribution. Tee was a victim of his circumstance. Yet, victims can still create more victims. Despite Tee's efforts to change, it's a change that occurred far too late. Tee's death at New's hands would be an end to a cycle of violence and retribution that Tee inadvertently set in motion. If Tee dies in an attempt to save White, his willingness to sacrifice himself for White will represent a departure from the violence that defined his past. Ultimately, I think it underscores the harsh reality that, despite efforts to seek forgiveness or become a changed man, some sins cannot be undone.
(tagging @slayerkitty for DFF's meta roundup)
#dead friend forever#dff the series#dff meta#dff spoilers#dff ep 11#dead friend forever the series#dff non#dff tee#dff white#thai bl#thai bl meta#barcode tinnasit#mio athens#jjay patiphan#be on cloud#boc actors#boc meta#ta nannakun#dff phee#dff jin#dff new#dff tan#dff theory#dff top#us nititorn#bump pawat#copper phuriwat#fuaiz thanawat
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I just want to say that even THOUGH I grew to dislike Jin, I UNDERSTAND him. When he was upset with Phee at the beginning of the show and we couldn't figure out why and stayed baffled til episode 9.
Phee turned that boy every which way but LOOSE and his anger was justified.
You just gonna dick him down like it's yall last day on earth then ditch him and try to act like nothing happened.
EXCUSE ME SIR! WHO THE HELL ELSE ARE YOU OUT HERE FUCKING LIKE THAT AND WHY ISN'T IT ME????
#pheejin#dff#dff the series#ta nannakun#copper#tacopper#he had every right to be mad#who else are you doing this to?#WHY DID YOU ABANDON ME?#be on cloud#phee x jin
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More WIPs because I clearly have commitment issues
#fanarts#jin guangyao#grand master of demonic cultivation#mdzs fanart#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#魔道祖师#chu wanning#the husky and his white cat shizun#2ha fanart#2ha#erha he ta de bai mao shizun#二哈和的白貓師尊#mashle#mashle fanart#abel walker#abyss razor#art wip#wip
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The best 5 seconds of the whole Dead friend forever series!
#dead friend forever#dff the series#pheejin#dead friend forever the series#dff#tacopper#phijin#ta nannakun#copper phuriwat#be on cloud#phee dff#jin dff
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Do you have a favorite actor on DFF thus far/performance that you were particularly impressed by? There’s been so much negativity recently so let’s show some positivity! 😁
I LOVE THIS QUESTION thank you so much for asking!
I think that the entire cast is shining tbh, but I think the two that I'm most impressed by are Copper and Bump.
For those who don't know, this is Bump's first time acting in a series. He was a complete newbie when he entered BOC and I personally think he's doing a FANTASTIC job as Fluke. I was super impressed with his acting in the present episodes, and I hope to see him shine more when we go back there (he's a bit more background in the past episodes but that's part of his character ahahahaa). I believe Mio is also new, but I'm still getting to know his character as Tan so that's why he didn't make my top two.
And for Copper, he's been very up front that his biggest struggle as an actor is to convey negative emotions because he's a very cheerful, smiley person IRL. But Jin in the present is incredibly sad and broken and neutral and almost never smiles, so I know that it was a challenge for him to get into that character and I'm really impressed by how much he conveys with just his eyes and his facial expressions. Particularly in episode 8, I was so impressed with his acting. I think he's really shining in this series.
Other than the top two, I mentioned 2J in another post but also JJay I think are doing a really good job. They're both playing complex, complicated characters and I really feel like they brought them to life. And seeing so much of Ta's acting has been a gem too. Overall, I'm a big fan of almost all of them I think 😂 but yeah, top two for me are Bump and Copper!
Thanks for asking, I'm happy to spread some positivity!! 💕
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