#Someone who actually was Nubian or Cushite or whatever as the Egyptians called it
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rahabs ¡ 2 years ago
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Lots of people complaining about The Mummy vs the new Cleopatra documentary but therein lies the issue: Cleopatra is claiming to be a historically accurate documentary, it is claiming to tell the “real” truth and even put out a statement on how Cleopatra’s ethnicity has been long debated (which, among scholars, no it really hasn’t, y’all just keep ignoring us when we say Cleopatra wasn’t black), but now they’re here to tell the real story that Cleopatra was really black and so was everyone in Egypt, especially the ruling class, at a time where they definitely were not as they were being ruled over by the Ptolemaic Greeks, while The Mummy was not claiming any historical accuracy or to be a documentary of real events, and that’s where a lot of the backlash is coming from.
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araphiel ¡ 1 year ago
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#The most annoying part is that if you wanted to make a documentary about like#Someone who actually was Nubian or Cushite or whatever as the Egyptians called it#YOU COULD.#There were dark-skinned pharaohs and queens we know this#Do something about Queen Tiye or whomever#One of the other foreign dynasties that ruled Egypt that we know about#Smh people keep bringing up Cleopatra’s ethnicity like it’s still open for debate when it’s really not#Because they just want her to be black so badly even though she most emphatically was not#And lbr it’s mostly Americans doing this#Because Americans can’t conceive that other countries have different racial dynamics or makeup#And they can’t conceive that sub-Saharan Africa isn’t actually indicative of the ethnic makeup of all of Africa
#Watching more idiotic statements put out by the actress involved in the movie and other American commentators is wild#The disconnect of complaining about racism and race-swapping all while you appropriate someone’s history#Incorrectly claim it as your own#And then when Greeks and Egyptians get mad at you you claim THEY’RE the ones with the problem?#You are trying to disingenuously and incorrectly claim that Cleopatra was black#And when told to stop trying to appropriate and blackwash other people’s history#Your response is to double down and yell at Greeks and Egyptians because they’re tired of you constantly trying to rewrite their history.#Again if you wanted to do a documentary/docudrama series about Egyptian royalty who were actually black#There’s an entire dynasty you could have chosen#Listen I hated black Anne Boleyn too but at least the creators of that series weren’t trying to claim that Anne Boleyn was actually black ir#The way that the Cleopatra people are trying to do.#Black Americans need to understand that i) not everyone in Africa was/is black;#ii) ancient Egyptians were not all black the way Americans are currently trying to push;#iii) Even if ancient Egyptians were all black by the standards of black Americans (which they weren’t) Cleopatra wasn’t ethnically Egyptian#The issue here is them trying to claim this is the ‘real’ Cleopatra and that Cleopatra was ‘really’ a black African#If this was just a fictional thing then whatever.  Again the issue is in trying to claim that they’re correct#And all the historicans/classicists/archaeologists/Egyptologists/etc are wrong#And trying to claim they’re telling the ‘real’ story of Cleopatra’s ‘real’ origins.#It’s like if Bridgerton suddenly tried to start claiming that Queen Charlotte was actually fully black the entire time.  Stop that#(Bridgerton isn’t doing that to my knowledge.  But I don’t watch Bridgerton so who knows.)
Lots of people complaining about The Mummy vs the new Cleopatra documentary but therein lies the issue: Cleopatra is claiming to be a historically accurate documentary, it is claiming to tell the “real” truth and even put out a statement on how Cleopatra’s ethnicity has been long debated (which, among scholars, no it really hasn’t, y’all just keep ignoring us when we say Cleopatra wasn’t black), but now they’re here to tell the real story that Cleopatra was really black and so was everyone in Egypt, especially the ruling class, at a time where they definitely were not as they were being ruled over by the Ptolemaic Greeks, while The Mummy was not claiming any historical accuracy or to be a documentary of real events, and that’s where a lot of the backlash is coming from.
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